Definition of cheating?

[placidfemme]

What is everyones definition of cheating?

Physical... emotional... online... real time...

What would you class as cheating?

[kiwifruit]

all of the above

[Motu]

Having a rich Daddy is cheating.

[Jimmy B]

PF

In terms of relationships, Rule of thumb, I reckon its anything that you would not do with "another" in front of your partner. Complicated issue really.

[placidfemme]

PF

In terms of relationships, Rule of thumb, I reckon its anything that you would not do with "another" in front of your partner. Complicated issue really.

thats true...

And yeah I'm asking in regards to a relationship... thats been pretty serious, not just a partner of like... a few weeks... talking years here

[RantyDave]

What is everyones definition of cheating?
Anything you lie (or not tell) about.

Whether the converse is true is a matter of personal choice, I suspect. Edit: If you think you've been cheated on then almost by definition you have.

Dave

[Jimmy B]

Mate, Unfortunately I think most people have been there at some time, some forgive, some dont, its human nature. Really depends on a whole lot of factors including, but not limited to, what is emotionally invested in the relationship, nature of the indescretion, ability to talk through the issues and perhaps most importantly wether both want to move forward and continue their future together. If so, one of the hardest things is it then becomes an issue of trust and this can eat away at one partner to such an exent that they hurt the other, downward spiral.

All I can suggest is that if forgivness is on the agenda then it must be, however difficult, unconditional. Some one very close to me is going through this, unfornunately for them its all over town because one partner was so agreived at the time that they informed every one, this has added an additional dimension to the healing process. They are getting there and they are happy for the most part, thankfully.

[Paul in NZ]

Well.... Some people think flirting is cheating.... Yet flirting is often a daily part of any sales job.

The difference is being open about it with your partner and yes - I will flirt with people in front of Vicki but not seriously and always without any crass crudeness (well maybe if I'm pished). Either way - you are on risky ground...

If you mean fantasizing about others? If we were being honest we all do that - we even fanatise about being other people or at least adopting some of their attributes. Crumbs - it happens here every day - we all think we are Rossi...

When it gets physical.... Unless it's an open relationship (which does not work) Thats cheating....

What you have to decide is are my feelings of hurt and betrayal justified or are these feelings making a trivial flirtation into a relationship ender. Thats a tough one.

Whats tough about having an alternate lifestyle based on sexual preference is sex defines your life to a certain degree and reduces the availiable partners. As a casual observer, this results in some people inside that lifestyle being quite predatory in their practises and rather cavalier regarding other peoples relationships. It's very easy to be flattered enough by some practised attention to do something daft.

You need to sit down and calmly look at things. Put aside your own hurt and try to see what happened and why - then look at your own feelings again. Maybe your hurt was justified?? We can't tell.

Either way PF - good luck mate, sounds like a bit of a storm a brewin...

Paul n Vicki - like KB - here if ya need us but please resist the temptation to press the big reset button just cos you are hurt...

[cowpoos]

in anything that you do....if your partner walkin in on it or appeared in the senario and you were totally comfortable with them being there and totally comfortable that they wouldn't have questions about it or any objectional feelings about it....its fine.... its not about your feelings of guilt or what you feel is okay really....its about their feelings

[Beemer]

all of the above

And anything else that you wouldn't want anyone to know about!

[Fishy]

....its about their feelings

you goin soft in your old age mate?

[placidfemme]

Paul n Vicki - like KB - here if ya need us but please resist the temptation to press the big reset button just cos you are hurt...

thanks for the advice... and don't worry... no-one is worth my life

*ain't going anywhere*

[placidfemme]

in anything that you do....if your partner walkin in on it or appeared in the senario and you were totally comfortable with them being there and totally comfortable that they wouldn't have questions about it or any objectional feelings about it....its fine.... its not about your feelings of guilt or what you feel is okay really....its about their feelings

I'm not the guilty one

[cowpoos]

I'm not the guilty one
well if your not comfortable about something thats happened...and you feel that some form of cheating has happened...then possible it has...all forms of
cheating comes across as emotions...and if you have these emotions and thoughts like you obvioulsy are then theres your answer...

its a funny thing....because if your partener trys to justify there actions or try to make reason of your feelings they don't go away....because no matter
what you are told or shown....they can't deniy you have these feelings of miss trust....which is often a wound that heals....but leaves a scar

[Grahameeboy]

I guess you need to talk first and then decide what to do next. Do you end it or forgive.

No one is perfect so it is really upto you how you feel, not just now but about moving forward with your partner..........you say years so sounds like you should talk first and then decide.

[ManDownUnder]

What is everyones definition of cheating?

Much has been said that kinda addresses your question, but I'd suggest that if there's something a person feels uncomfortable about, raise it as an issue to talk about.

What appears to be cheating may have a good reason behind it, or may be symptomatic of a bigger problem that actually needs resolving. Cheating is a sign AND and problem. The trick is to address the real problem... and somehow survive any indescretions...

PM sent.

[Toaster]

to add to that.... if God can forgive us scumbags then we can forgive anyone for anything done to us. Never said it would be easy though.

Cheating is pretty much anything I think your partner/wife/husband would feel jealous about if they saw you do it/say it... probably anything initmate in touch, word or actions.

...I need a brew....

[jrandom]

cheating...?

Cheating, IMHO, is a symptom. When people start looking outside their 'official' relationship for romantic fulfillment, it's because something's going wrong between them.

But let's be frank and cut the bullshit, eh? 'Cheating' is having sex with someone else.

Now, having experienced a fair bit of that myself (from both directions) I can confirm that the best part of any such situation is laying open one's private life to strangers on the internet. I've always found that immensely cathartic. Online communities are so validating.

Hey, if it happens to you, at least you'll never have to worry about how it's going to affect the kids...

[MSTRS]

Cheating is a sign AND a problem.

All the reasons/excuses come down to this. Only total honesty and trust from both parties can fix it. Is the effort worth it? Only the (original) couple can decide that.

[Bend-it]

But let's be frank and cut the bullshit, eh? 'Cheating' is having sex with someone else.


But not confined to that... cheating can occur big time without sex, like all the responses posted here before...

[jrandom]

cheating can occur big time without sex...

Oh, gimme a break.

I'm not saying there isn't any non-sexual contact with third parties that's inappropriate when one's in a committed relationship, but come on.

Sex is what defines a committed relationship. It's the line in the sand.

[Bend-it]

Not for everyone... For alot of people, that "line" is not at sex, but much sooner, prolonged holding hands, kissing etc... Sharing intimate details about yourself... There's alot more going on than just sex, fish...

[ManDownUnder]

Oh, gimme a break.

I'm not saying there isn't any non-sexual contact with third parties that's inappropriate when one's in a committed relationship, but come on.

Sex is what defines a committed relationship. It's the line in the sand.

It is a defining act yes, but as the sole definition of committment? I'd suggest you broaden things to intimacy rather than purely sex.

Or are we saying the same thing?

[Toaster]

Agreed dude..... and nice panda by the way (that's you Bend-it).

[jrandom]

Not for everyone... For alot of people, that "line" is not at sex, but much sooner, prolonged holding hands, kissing etc...

Nup.

They're just reasons for breaking up before anyone's actually cheated.

[McJim]

And here was me going to go on about:

Holding a set of aces in your cuff.

Lead weights in dice.

Paying a boxer to lie down in Round 4.

[jrandom]

Or are we saying the same thing?

I have a fairly broad definition of sex.

If someone gets off, it's sex.

If someone wants to get off, it's foreplay.

Kissing's pretty borderline, depending on how blue your balls get and how much bumping and grinding goes on.

And nobody but weird-arse religious types hold hands before they've shagged.

[The_Dover]

If someone gets off, it's sex.

If someone wants to get off, it's foreplay.

Kissing's pretty borderline, depending on how blue your balls get and how much bumping and grinding goes on.


where does premature ejaculation come in to this?

[Colapop]

As long as all debts are serviced before any decisions are made... Relationship or practical issues.

[jrandom]

where does premature ejaculation come...?

Depends where it's pointing.

[Racey Rider]

And here was me going to go on about:
Holding a set of aces in your cuff.
Lead weights in dice.
Paying a boxer to lie down in Round 4.

... and riding 250's in the Streetstock 150 class! :whistle:

:Pokey:

[scumdog]

Hey, for once a KB thread is staying (mostly) pretty true to topic!!

Cheating? You'll know in your heart if the 'other' is cheating, they won't give off the same 'vibes' to you.

[Whynot]

cheat (cht)
v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v. tr.
To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases.
To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land.
To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.
To elude; escape: cheat death.

v. intr.
To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
Informal. To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

n.
An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle.
One who cheats; a swindler.
Law. Fraudulent acquisition of another's property.
Botany. An annual European species of brome grass (Bromus secalinus) widely naturalized in temperate regions.

[ManDownUnder]

ok guys - in respect of those whos feelings are being explored a little too vigorously can we kill/close/stop posting in here?

Ta
Nigel

Mods - can this be killed or locked?

[Joni]

Hmm, I dont understand the request MDU - is discussing it not why the thread was started in the first place?

[Hitcher]

Mods - can this be killed or locked?

No. If you find it too threatening, don't read it.

[MSTRS]

PF will respond with as little or as much information as she is comfortable divulging. She is obviously not an intensely private person, but something must have happened to leave her feeling unsure and in need of clarification as to what she must be feeling. Locking the thread will only deny her further discussion/advice.

[jetboy]

is a relationship with another species considered cheating?

[Hitcher]

is a relationship with another species considered cheating?

Define "relationship" and describe the other species.

[XP@]

Remember the "cheating" is usually a symptom of a problem.
Try not fly off the handle or just see the cheating, have a look at the rest of the situation, then fly off the handle!

[The_Dover]

is a relationship with another species considered cheating?

not in the waikato.

[SuperDave]

Edit: If you think you've been cheated on then almost by definition you have.

Dave

I'd imagine that a heck of a lot of trouble can come from assumptions.
But yeah, I get the subtleness in your comment if that was your intent.

[MrMelon]

is a relationship with another species considered cheating?

Not if you own it! :Pokey:

[jetboy]

not in the waikato.
oh good. ill let my mate know

[ManDownUnder]

No. If you find it too threatening, don't read it.

Consider it done

[yungatart]

PF, it is not MY (or anyone elses) definition of cheating that counts - it is YOURS.
Personally, for me, it is anything that I would not be comfortable doing in front of my man.
Only those in the relationship can decide when the line has been crossed, and what to do about it, if anything.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Anything you lie (or not tell) about.

Whether the converse is true is a matter of personal choice, I suspect. Edit: If you think you've been cheated on then almost by definition you have.

Dave

I agree with this.i knew with my first husband and i don't no why i just felt it every time he was around. And when i asked him he went into denial mod then i got the phone call from his bit of fluff:bye:
a relationship to me is being exclusive to each other and weather that be holding hands kissing or having sex or what ever. And as far as i'm concerned if you are doing any of that with someone else then you are cheating.
my motto is do to others as you would want done to yourself. I wish you luck in your decision and will be thinking of you. This is not a nice possion to be in.
GOOD LUCK

[98tls]

ASper the posts on forgiveness....in my opinion forget it....having done it (cheated) many moons ago and then been forgiven so to speak it just doesnt work..in a good relationship the two involved should be equal...once you do the deed thats it..trust is gone...anytime the other pisses you off and you bring it up you are reminded of your previous indiscresation...every time your late home...every time you say you will ring and dont....it just doesnt go away..ever...if you have been cheated on you are best to walk away..straight away...very easy to say i forgive you on the spur of the moment when all that emotional craps going on...looking back on my bad deed i remember saying shit like i will never do it again blah blah blah...its bullshit but at the time you think you really mean it but no...looking back the thing that bothers me most is who did i think i was far@k%n someones life up like that....most selfish thing ive ever done....move on..plenty of fish in the sea as they say

[Mrs Busa Pete]

PF, it is not MY (or anyone elses) definition of cheating that counts - it is YOURS.
Personally, for me, it is anything that I would not be comfortable doing in front of my man.
Only those in the relationship can decide when the line has been crossed, and what to do about it, if anything.

To true wise old lady

[The_Dover]

ASper the posts on forgiveness....in my opinion forget it....having done it (cheated) many moons ago and then been forgiven so to speak it just doesnt work..in a good relationship the two involved should be equal...once you do the deed thats it..trust is gone...anytime the other pisses you off and you bring it up you are reminded of your previous indiscresation...every time your late home...every time you say you will ring and dont....it just doesnt go away..ever...if you have been cheated on you are best to walk away..straight away...very easy to say i forgive you on the spur of the moment when all that emotional craps going on...looking back on my bad deed i remember saying shit like i will never do it again blah blah blah...its bullshit but at the time you think you really mean it but no...looking back the thing that bothers me most is who did i think i was far@k%n someones life up like that....most selfish thing ive ever done....move on..plenty of fish in the sea as they say

you mean you're not allowed more than one sheep in oamaru??

[yungatart]

To true wise old lady

Who you callin' old????? I'm young (at heart)
Cheeky wench, and after I cooked ya blardy eggs an all. Cheek!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Who you callin' old????? I'm young (at heart)
Cheeky wench, and after I cooked ya blardy eggs an all. Cheek!

Was waiting for that.
Bloody nice eggs as well we will have to come back for some more.

[sels1]

I'm young (at heart)

aha....and here was me thinking it was yunga tart, lol, glad thats been explained....

[jetboy]

you mean you're not allowed more than one sheep in oamaru??

sorry mate - best let one of them go

[98tls]

you mean you're not allowed more than one sheep in oamaru?? Wipe your mouth theres still a bit of bullshit on it......:msn-wink:

[The_Dover]

Wipe your mouth theres still a bit of bullshit on it......:msn-wink:

no, that's peanut butter

[SixPackBack]

Cheating?...hell thats easy, getting caught up to your nuts in guts on the power stroke. [otherwise its foreplay!!]

[Harry33]

Isit cheating if you use your left arm instead of the right?

[KATWYN]

And here was me going to go on about:

Holding a set of aces in your cuff.

Lead weights in dice.

Paying a boxer to lie down in Round 4.

:laugh: answers written in ya hand and up your arms and legs in an exam....lol

Damn it Placid. If someone has been cheated on in any way shape or form, I reakon defined
by the innocent party feeling betrayed....then I am unsure about this whole trust can
be rebuilt thing - the relationship takes on a whole new dynamic after that - one I
know I sure as heck wouldn't waste my time living in.

[Blondini]

What is everyones definition of cheating?

Physical... emotional... online... real time...

What would you class as cheating?

Anything that betrays someones trust.Once the trust has gone it is very difficult to restore.

[Ixion]

Locked at request of thread initiator.

[cowpoos]

Locked at request of thread initiator.
nah its not

[cowpoos]

nah its not
still not locked

[cowpoos]

still not locked
hellllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooo ixion

[_Gina_]

just to see if wasn't just CowPoos who could post.......

[chanceyy]

hmm well it was locked when i checked last nite

but since its not

I agree with those others who state that once the trust is gone its gone .....

trust, honesty, & communication all go hand in hand

why would anyone want to settle for mince when you have prime rib at home !!

If ya want to go off & bonk the world then do the right thing & break off with ya relationship first ..

[cowpoos]

just to see if wasn't just CowPoos who could post.......
yeah funni ain't it

[Macktheknife]

I reckon it is whatever the couple has agreed to be exclusive about. Many people have no real problem with a kiss for example, but no prolonged lip-lock tonsil hockey. I know someone who has no issue with anything up to and including oral sex, she is quite happy for her partner to do this. I was surprised but, hey whatever rocks your boat.
I think it should be discussed and agreed by the partners involved, whatever that covers.
Good luck PF.

[merv]

aha....and here was me thinking it was yunga tart, lol, glad thats been explained....

Same thing I thought a while ago so I asked to be sure.

[yungatart]

To be honest, I don't care what you call me -not even bothered if you call me tart- as long as its not late for my dinner!

[merv]

I'm with you on that. Yeah I reckon I don't want to be late to anything except my own funeral.

[Colapop]

To be honest, I don't care what you call me -not even bothered if you call me tart- as long as its not late for my dinner!
So... can I call you sometime..?

[smokeyging]

thats true...

And yeah I'm asking in regards to a relationship... thats been pretty serious, not just a partner of like... a few weeks... talking years here



Woman usually have a darned good idea if they are being cheated on. Something will go wrong in the relationship and if it isn’t sorted there and then, both usually start bitching at each other till they both forget what the original bitch was all about in the first place. Then of course it just gets worse after that. If you think the relationship can’t be saved then dumb the bugger. Otherwise marriage counsellors can work wonders. Someone in this thread said that once the trust is gone from cheating etc chances are it will probably not come back. This I agree with. At the end of the day you will have to make the final decision. I know woman can’t handle that loneliness too well, but….

[Disco Dan]

PF

In terms of relationships, Rule of thumb, I reckon its anything that you would not do with "another" in front of your partner. Complicated issue really.

i agree with this one! imagine your GF or BF was standing right next to you.. would you still, say that, do that etc etc..

[chanceyy]

Woman usually have a darned good idea if they are being cheated on.

I know woman can’t handle that loneliness too well, but….

in response to your first sentence .. men/woman usually have a darn good idea if they are being cheated on ... the stupid part is the partner cheating thinks that the other partner has no idea, but there are clues .. also over 90% of cheaters get caught ..

& can you clarify how you "know" that woman can't handle that loneliness to well ??

sounds a bit like a generalisation .. & from the incidents in the last week .. it appears the men do not handle break ups/indiscrections that well, more than the woman

[Mental Trousers]

"Cheating" is a combination of what you and your partner consider it to be. If you're both comfortable with flirting, for example, then that's not cheating even though in a different relationship it would be. You both agree on the boundaries.

[smokeyging]

in response to your first sentence .. men/woman usually have a darn good idea if they are being cheated on ... the stupid part is the partner cheating thinks that the other partner has no idea, but there are clues .. also over 90% of cheaters get caught ..

& can you clarify how you "know" that woman can't handle that loneliness to well ??

sounds a bit like a generalisation .. & from the incidents in the last week .. it appears the men do not handle break ups/indiscrections that well, more than the woman

your point has been read.

[MVnut]

Always liked Bill Clinton's philosophy on cheating. lol:rockon:

[merv]

Always liked Bill Clinton's philosophy on cheating. lol:rockon:

To quote "I did not have sex with that woman" :innocent:

[chanceyy]

To quote "I did not have sex with that woman" :innocent:

but he forgot to ask Hillary if not having sex with that woman, & putting his bodily parts in her mouth, & cumming on her dress was ok in their relationship

[cowpoos]

.. also over 90% of cheaters get caught ..

and 79.12% of statistics are made up on the spot :nya:

[chanceyy]

and 79.12% of statistics are made up on the spot :nya:

laffing poosy

well hows this for stats .. out of 10 ppl i know 9 got caught .. isn't that 90%

pt ... but reality is that when a partner decides to cheat, the clues are left for the other partner .. its just whether they choose to see it or not ..

but what ever the stats .. the end result is the same .. vast amounts of hurt, mistrust & life will never be the same

[merv]

So what's Hillary going to get up to when she is President?

[KATWYN]

laffing poosy

well hows this for stats .. out of 10 ppl i know 9 got caught .. isn't that 90%



I reakon. it also depends on who those 10 are. (i.e., a mixure of lots of different people races,religeon,ages etc that can be inferred to the rest of the population) was the 10th one clever at hiding it or did they have a conscience and confess???

Blimmin cheaters.....its that gut feeling you get. Those clues you speak of and that gut feeling is always right I reakon.

And :laugh: to the Clinton definition of cheating.......

btw, I like your profile pic chancyy

[chanceyy]

I reakon. it also depends on who those 10 are. (i.e., a mixure of lots of different people races,religeon,ages etc that can be inferred to the rest of the population) and maybe the 10th one is/was clever at hiding it ???

I dunno for sure.. but i believe she is one who is burying her head in the sand .. does not want to throw away what she has .... but then I could be wrong, I do believe she knows .. funny thing is even though we live in a town population approx 20,000 word gets round pretty damn fast



Blimmin cheaters.....its that gut feeling you get. Those clues you speak of and that gut feeling is always right I reakon.

And :laugh: to the Clinton definition of cheating.......

btw, I like your profile pic chancyy

yeah gut feeling ... can't beat it .. just dunno why everyone likes to ignore it ..

thanks bout profile pic .. its muh fav .. dog is no longer with me .. but thats one of muh horses ..

[Beemer]

Still not locked...

I have been cheated on in the past and you DO know. It's often just some little thing that makes you suspicious, but once there is that suspicion, it eats away at you until you know for sure. What bugs me is how you can confront the person and they often lie about it! (Same goes for tv - every person who is asked directly "are you seeing someone else?" says "no, I love YOU darling and no one else"!)

I'm now with someone I know with all my heart would never cheat on me and after knowing what it feels like to be cheated on, there is NO WAY I would want him to ever feel that way either.

Dunno why people cheat, but I'd never take back anyone who did. If they do it once, they'll do it again.

[chanceyy]

I'm now with someone I know with all my heart would never cheat on me and after knowing what it feels like to be cheated on, there is NO WAY I would want him to ever feel that way either.

Dunno why people cheat, but I'd never take back anyone who did. If they do it once, they'll do it again.

totally agree with you


& the other funny thing .. is when someone cheats, gets found out .. leaves partner 1 to stay with partner 2 .. why is partner 2 really suprised when said partner cheats again ....

[Skyryder]

To quote "I did not have sex with that woman" :innocent:


"That woman" developed a whole new range of designer wear. Monica called her new range 'The Stainless Look.'

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Cheating. Failing to use 'underarm' deoderant.


Skyryder

[_Gina_]

yeah funni ain't it
Considering it was meant to be locked....yeah funny strange

[Colapop]

I think this thread being locked is cheating.

The thing about cheating that it's about not being honest. At the end of the day the person cheating can't lie to themselves.

[Hitcher]

To quote "I did not have sex with that woman"
You misquote Mr Clinton. What he actually said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." What he meant by that was that he did not have sexual intercourse, which is true. Some Americans have strange definitions around things sexual, with many believing that oral sex is no different to kissing or "heavy petting", and it is only the act of penile penetration that counts. Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that lying publicly is not a clever move. Being a shrewd chooser of words is another matter entirely.

[KATWYN]

You misquote Mr Clinton. What he actually said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." What he meant by that was that he did not have sexual intercourse, which is true. Some Americans have strange definitions around things sexual, with many believing that oral sex is no different to kissing or "heavy petting", and it is only the act of penile penetration that counts. Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that lying publicly is not a clever move. Being a shrewd chooser of words is another matter entirely.

It opened up a whole new word definition for "sexual relations" after that! But I see no addition into the Oxford dictionary for that definition??
theres everything else (i.e., Sexual harrassment,sexual politics, etc etc) will the confusion of what constitutes sexual relations ever be cleared up?! :laugh:

[Lou Girardin]

You misquote Mr Clinton. What he actually said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." What he meant by that was that he did not have sexual intercourse, which is true. Some Americans have strange definitions around things sexual, with many believing that oral sex is no different to kissing or "heavy petting", and it is only the act of penile penetration that counts. Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that lying publicly is not a clever move. Being a shrewd chooser of words is another matter entirely.

Eatin' ain't cheatin'

[BarBender]

Eatin' ain't cheatin'

No and apparently neither is using a cigar.

[Hitcher]

No and apparently neither is using a cigar.

In another famous quote, Bill Clinton said he "didn't inhale"...

[BarBender]

In another famous quote, Bill Clinton said he "didn't inhale"...

LOL Of course he'd say that. The cigar wasnt lit.

[GR81]

if you're not cheating you're not trying! ;)

[placidfemme]

Thats a lot of interesting concepts on cheating from you guys.

The things that rang true the most were the comments on "cheating is what you and your partner have discussed to be cheating".

I suppose in each relationship its different.

[jrandom]

Thats a lot of interesting concepts on cheating from you guys.

We're all about interesting concepts, babe.

It's about time somebody asked the real question that's been preying on everybody's mind, though.

Was it a sausage roll (http://www.graftongourmet.co.nz/images/CHICKEN%20Sausage%20rollw.jpg) or a fur burger (http://www.bon-food.com.sg/images/im05.jpg)?

[Paul in NZ]

We're all about interesting concepts, babe.

It's about time somebody asked the real question that's been preying on everybody's mind, though.

Was it a sausage roll or a fur burger?

Oh yeah - that raised the tone....

[MSTRS]

Thats a lot of interesting concepts on cheating from you guys.

The things that rang true the most were the comments on "cheating is what you and your partner have discussed to be cheating".

I suppose in each relationship its different.

Absolutely. And at different times. You know - you may be feeling 'vulnerable', and a situation will give off different vibes at those times.

[scumdog]

We're all about interesting concepts, babe.

It's about time somebody asked the real question that's been preying on everybody's mind, though.

Was it a sausage roll or a fur burger?

:whocares: :whocares: :whocares:
Does it matter???

As Paul in NZ says 'that raised the tone'., class, all class dude.

[The_Dover]

We're all about interesting concepts, babe.

It's about time somebody asked the real question that's been preying on everybody's mind, though.

Was it a sausage roll (http://www.graftongourmet.co.nz/images/CHICKEN%20Sausage%20rollw.jpg) or a fur burger (http://www.bon-food.com.sg/images/im05.jpg)?

Jeesus Fish, does it matter what the girl had for lunch? It's the breaking of the diet that is the betrayal, not the make-up of the menu.

I've tried in vain to tempt a vagitarian or two with my sausage sizzle, it's never worked so I'd suspect that the Captains Choice was the food in the fryer, so to speak.

I can't believe that you could be so insensitive, i'd call you a cunt but they are useful 3 weeks out of 4.

[El Dopa]

It's about time somebody asked the real question that's been preying on everybody's mind, though.

Was it a sausage roll (http://www.graftongourmet.co.nz/images/CHICKEN%20Sausage%20rollw.jpg) or a fur burger (http://www.bon-food.com.sg/images/im05.jpg)?

Ah, so that's what people mean when they say 'eating is cheating'.

[jetboy]

check out this - might as well make some $$ on it http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=39010

[wybmadiity]

PF

In terms of relationships, Rule of thumb, I reckon its anything that you would not do with "another" in front of your partner. Complicated issue really.


That's well said, or something you wouldn't want them to know about.

[98tls]

That's well said, or something you wouldn't want them to know about. must be hard for dover to have a relationship then................

[MSTRS]

must be hard for dover to have a relationship then................

'course it isn't!! He doesn't care who know what.....:innocent:

[Skyryder]

Eatin' ain't cheatin'

Only if you choke. :gob:

Skyryder

[Mom]

totally agree with you


& the other funny thing .. is when someone cheats, gets found out .. leaves partner 1 to stay with partner 2 .. why is partner 2 really suprised when said partner cheats again ....

Snap! you stole my thunder here for sure.........:yes:

[Skyryder]

You misquote Mr Clinton. What he actually said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." What he meant by that was that he did not have sexual intercourse, which is true. Some Americans have strange definitions around things sexual, with many believing that oral sex is no different to kissing or "heavy petting", and it is only the act of penile penetration that counts. Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that lying publicly is not a clever move. Being a shrewd chooser of words is another matter entirely.


I wonder what Hillary would have said if Bill had walked in and caught her giving a blow job.

Hillary "Hey I'm just checking the tast of the mayonnaise dear."

Bill. Leave that to the help. That's Monica's job.


Skyryder

[Mom]

You misquote Mr Clinton. What he actually said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." What he meant by that was that he did not have sexual intercourse, which is true. Some Americans have strange definitions around things sexual, with many believing that oral sex is no different to kissing or "heavy petting", and it is only the act of penile penetration that counts. Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that lying publicly is not a clever move. Being a shrewd chooser of words is another matter entirely.

Yeah and the scariest thing I ever heard was a young southern gal who had taken the no sex before marraige pledge at her church, saying that anal intercourse did not count, she was still a virgin....

[Colapop]

That's not scary... what's scary is that uncle dad was the giver...