Circumcision 'cuts' HIV infection

[Tank]

Perhaps those suffering from premature ejaculation issues should consider it a possible cure and an alternative to taking the blue pill.

Like fuck its a cure. If I could last a count of 4 I'd be a happy, happy man.

[Maha]

Growler Thing

Does this remind you of anything?

[Number One]

Does this remind you of anything?
Snuffie!!! I loved him

[Pussy]

Like fuck its a cure. If I could last a count of 4 I'd be a happy, happy man.

This won't take long, did it?.....

[Laava]

When I was born I had defficient eyelids so they circumcised me and used the offcut to make some new eylids. Great! I'm still a bit cockeyed but I have great foresight!

[McJim]

four skin? Y' mean like a long spliff?

[Hitcher]

Jesus wept. Let's prey on people's fears and insecurities. Men have just as many issues about their sexuality than do women. They just don't have women's magazines to endlessly pore over these matters for them.

If I am to believe my daily email, True Happiness(TM) comes from having a fake degree, a Rolex and a HUGE cock. I guess one out of three is a start.

[Pussy]

Jesus wept. Let's prey on people's fears and insecurities. Men have just as many issues about their sexuality than do women. They just don't have women's magazines to endlessly pore over these matters for them.

If I am to believe my daily email, True Happiness(TM) comes from having a fake degree, a Rolex and a HUGE cock. I guess one out of three is a start.

Nice Rolex, is it?

[McJim]

If I am to believe my daily email, True Happiness(TM) comes from having a fake degree, a Rolex and a HUGE cock. I guess one out of three is a start.

Is it a REAL rolex?

[avgas]

:shit:I think its cleaner, easier to clean, it looks handsomer :wari:
:gob:And just on those 2 reasons ya get more blowjobs:woohoo:

I have to agree here. You should see the crap I dig out of my nose, ears, belly-button...... either way my skin would have fallen off, by docs knife at birth or gangrene when I was in my teens.

I would not force it on my kids though - just like I would not demand that they ride on a bike (or even on the back of mine)

[Genie]

Is it a REAL rolex?

is it a real cock???

[PirateJafa]

is it a real cock???

Not without a foreskin! :rofl:

You pansies make me chuckle. "Oh mah gawd, it must be cut off because it makes it so much easier to keep clean!".

If it's too hard for you to clean under a single fold of skin each day, you don't fucking deserve it. You might as well have cut the rest of it cut off while you were at it, for being a bunch of pussies.

[avgas]

The prepuce (foreskin) contains sensitive nerves which add to sexual arousal.
errr guys have problem with this already - last thing you need to do is make horny guys hornier.
Pocket Gameboy would take on a whole new meaning.

[avgas]

Not without a foreskin! :rofl:

You pansies make me chuckle. "Oh mah gawd, it must be cut off because it makes it so much easier to keep clean!".

If it's too hard for you to clean under a single fold of skin each day, you don't fucking deserve it. You might as well have cut the rest of it off while you were at it, for being a bunch of pussies.
Yours must be huge to be shoved so far up your arse :rolleyes:

[PirateJafa]

Yours must be huge to be shoved so far up your arse :rolleyes:
Comes from owning a Honda. :stupid:

You speak like a true half-man. :jerry:

[Genie]

when i had my first son i was asked ..did i want him 'done' immediately i said no. you're not hurting my baby. i'll teach him how to clean it.
I had heard that it became very common after ww2, as so many men in the trenches had some...ahem...problems due to lack of hygiene.

[XxKiTtiExX]

Why would you think that babies are less aware of pain?

This is a serious question.

Maybe they experienced a doctor that told them the same thing as mine did after he did something (had to be done) that left our son screaming his little head off.


"Don't worry newborn babies nervous systems aren't fully functioning yet, he didn't feel a thing!"

[Slyer]

And as for MY beliefs, I believe every bloke should have enjoyed having a wank with his full and natural foreskin intact...its a great feeling and no lube required! :devil2:
I know right. You circumcised folk don't know any better and are missing out, can't play with yourself when there's nothing there!
Why ruin a beautiful thing because of tradition?
Foreskin pulls back when required and folds back over as a protective coating when not in use. ;)

[oldrider]

See my avatar!

It was only done "fashionably" during the period of the third Reich and it was stopped shortly after the conclusion of WW2!

You may join me and wonder why that might have been? :shifty:

I don't think I am going to get mine back, still searching though!

I feel deprived and mentally scarred. :crybaby: .......... :laugh:

[avgas]

Comes from owning a Honda. :stupid:

You speak like a true half-man. :jerry:
Just like your boyfriend ;)

[avgas]

I had heard that it became very common after ww2, as so many men in the trenches had some...ahem...problems due to lack of hygiene.
They have nothing over us "kiwi-bikers". We piss castrol and fart 2-stroke.
The big question is - how often will he 'clean it' - any more than 2 shakes and your wanking :msn-wink:

[avgas]

Foreskin pulls back when required and folds back over as a protective coating when not in use. ;)

Hmmmm some people on KB must be foreskins then.......

[BoristheBiter]

I know right. You circumcised folk don't know any better and are missing out, can't play with yourself when there's nothing there!
Why ruin a beautiful thing because of tradition?
Foreskin pulls back when required and folds back over as a protective coating when not in use. ;)

there must be something wrong with snuffles, all they talk about is wanking.
If you can't find anyone else to do it maybe you should get it done and more women will do it for you.

[duckonin]

Shall we now move onto Vasectomys !! ?:msn-wink:

Will complete the cycle...Lose that bit young and that bit older..BRRR as my feet tremble under the desk of my computer...:doctor:

[BoristheBiter]

Shall we now move onto Vasectomys !! ?:msn-wink:

Will complete the cycle...Lose that bit young and that bit older..BRRR as my feet tremble under the desk of my computer...:doctor:

now that is an idea. also saves the question about having the chilren done.

[mynameis]

1. Nonsense. Please explain your appendix.



2. The whole "choice" thing is a fallacious argument. Nobody in their right mind is going to let anybody draw blood on their dick, general anaethesia or otherwise. If it's not done to newborns, it's not going to happen.



3. Again there is an assumption that the "medical reason" is something that will afflict the foreskin's wearer. Circumcision can reduce the risks of urinary tract infections. More importantly it can reduce the risk of transmitting some STDs.

4. Please let's not get into any psychobabble about the intensity of women's orgasms.


In reply to #2 scroll back through the thread where someones partner had it done. I also know of grown men who have gone and had it done. Just because it isn't done as a newborn doesn't then mean to say that you would NEVER get it done if its what you "wanted."


In regards to #3, vitamin C intake can help reduce the risk of urinary tract infections (cranberries). So can urinating frequently (eg: going before you end up busting). And lets not forget "personal hygiene."

In regards to reducing the risk of transmitting some STD's..

Condom.

Good answer, plus you'd be pretty stupid to go around shagging without a condom thinking risk of STD transmission would be reduced because you are cut.

[sugilite]

There are more nerve endings within a foreskin than all ones finger tips combined. I'll take the ten seconds cleaning penalty to gain the maximum pleasure during sex thanks. :cool:

[EgliHonda]

I'll take the ten seconds cleaning penalty to gain the maximum pleasure during sex thanks. :cool:

that 'cleaning' is probably as close to sex as some people get... :rolleyes:

[Bender]

We had to get both our sons circumcised for medical reasons. It was terrible, the pain and suffering they went through.

I remember taking the bandages off after a set period and they were all blood scabs that tore the healing skin as we went (despite bathing them and soaking the bandages thoroughly).

One of the worst things I've had to do as a parent.

[oldrider]

There are more nerve endings within a foreskin than all ones finger tips combined. :cool:
True! :shit:

Tragic isn't it! To think, that my poor wee chappy has been out there lost, all alone and trembling, for seventy years! :violin: Is there no accountability! :slap:

[PrincessBandit]

True! :shit:

Tragic isn't it! To think, that my poor wee chappy has been out there lost, all alone and trembling, for seventy years! :violin: Is there no accountability! :slap:

Hahaha, John, yes your avatar line kind of gave it away....Pun unintended!

[Bass]

They stopped circumcising Poms in the mid 80's when they discovered that they had been throwing away the best bit. Well actually, they sewed the throwaways into wallets that converted to suitcases with a few strokes.
This was about the same time that they found it needs four skin divers to circumcise a whale.
Groan. Yeah I know.

[avgas]

There are more nerve endings within a foreskin than all ones finger tips combined. I'll take the ten seconds cleaning penalty to gain the maximum pleasure during sex thanks. :cool:
Hmmm now that I think about this I am quite happy its gone.
Something about a guy getting maximum enjoyment........isn't that like a ADHD kid given a cup of sugar.
All excitement for 30 seconds, then curls up an goes to sleep.

I'd rather take the more boring option and let my partner have more fun.

I wonder if mine was donated to TS for 'her' exchange to a women.

[avgas]

They stop circumcising Poms in the mid 80's when they discovered that they had been throwing away the best bit. Well actually, they sewed the throwaways into wallets that converted to suitcases with a few strokes.
This was about the same time that they found it needs four skin divers to circumcise a whale.
Groan. Yeah I know.

Also you might not want to mention this to the locals.
Its all a part of the foreskin and she beds debate - that's how they claimed mine

[McJim]

that 'cleaning' is probably as close to sex as some people get... :rolleyes:

Mine usually needs a good polish.:tugger:

[Hitcher]

Mine usually needs a good polish.

Which raises another positive benefit for circumcision. Safety. The knob on the end stops one's hand flying loose and smacking oneself in the head.

[crazyhorse]

We had to get both our sons circumcised for medical reasons. It was terrible, the pain and suffering they went through.

I remember taking the bandages off after a set period and they were all blood scabs that tore the healing skin as we went (despite bathing them and soaking the bandages thoroughly).

One of the worst things I've had to do as a parent.

It wasn't bad like that for my son, but I do know of other parents who had their son circumcised, and it was botched up ...... sad thing to happen.

Not nice to watch an older child going through it though. We can laugh about it now, the first time he went to pee, and it was all bandage up, he missed the toilet completely and peed against the wall. Poor kid was upset over it, now we remember and laugh about it.

Good thing is he no longer has any problems at all. But not a nice thing to go through, no.

[Pixie]

Well no but it's no more barbaric than having to do it when they are 8

There is a major difference between male and female circumcision.
Female circumcision involves the excision of the clitoris.

[Pixie]

1. Nonsense. Please explain your appendix.


There is good evidence to suspect that the appendix serves as a reservoir for gut fauna,to repopulate the gut should GI infection destroy the existing fauna.

Immune function

New studies propose that the appendix may harbor and protect bacteria that are beneficial in the function of the human colon.

Loren G. Martin, a professor of physiology at Oklahoma State University, argues that the appendix has a function in fetuses and adults. Endocrine cells have been found in the appendix of 11 week old fetuses that contribute to "biological control (homeostatic) mechanisms." In adults, Martin argues that the appendix acts as a lymphatic organ. The appendix is experimentally verified as being rich in infection-fighting lymphoid cells, suggesting that it might play a role in the immune system. Zahid suggests that it plays a role in both manufacturing hormones in fetal development as well as functioning to "train" the immune system, exposing the body to antigens so that it can produce antibodies. He notes that doctors in the last decade have stopped removing the appendix during other surgical procedures as a routine precaution, because it can be successfully transplanted into the urinary tract to rebuild a sphincter muscle and reconstruct a functional bladder.

Apparent function of the human vermiform appendix in the recovery from diarrhea. Although more than 2 million children die each year in developing countries as a result of diarrhea, children living in those countries face an estimated 1.4 billion cases of diarrhea each year.

Maintaining gut flora

Although it was long accepted that the immune tissue, called gut associated lymphoid tissue, surrounding the appendix and elsewhere in the gut carries out a number of important functions, explanations were lacking for the distinctive shape of the appendix and its apparent lack of importance as judged by an absence of side-effects following appendectomy. William Parker, Randy Bollinger, and colleagues at Duke University proposed that the appendix serves as a haven for useful bacteria when illness flushes those bacteria from the rest of the intestines. This proposal is based on a new understanding of how the immune system supports the growth of beneficial intestinal bacteria, in combination with many well-known features of the appendix, including its architecture and its association with copious amounts of immune tissue. Such a function is expected to be useful in a culture lacking modern sanitation and healthcare practice, where diarrhea may be prevalent. Current epidemiological data] show that diarrhea is one of the leading causes of death in developing countries, indicating that a role of the appendix as an aid in recovering beneficial bacteria following diarrhea may be extremely important in the absence of modern health and sanitation practices.


You will find further information in the appendix.:killingme

[Pixie]

Then there was the doctor that had to tell the new mother that her baby was born without eyelids...

Doc: "We can fix it quite easily.We can fashion new eyelids from the boy's foreskin"

Mom: "But Doctor.Won't that make my baby cockeyed?"

Doc: "Not in the least.....But he may have foresight."

[HenryDorsetCase]

Then again I don't actually have a cock so don't really know what a pain in the arse (:shutup:) a foreskin can be.

If its a pain in the ass, you're doing it wrong (or right)

[Rodney007]

I am done...
and I am yet to have any infections or cheese buildups to date!
sounds gross but isnt that the reason why its done?

[Indiana_Jones]

I am done...
and I am yet to have any infections or cheese buildups to date!
sounds gross but isnt that the reason why its done?

lol clean that smeg off after you've wanked off!

And regarding the doctor, he had a....


<img src="http://tvmegasite.net/images/primetime/media/reddwarfsmegups1994video.jpg">

-Indy

[Cheshire Cat]

Maybe they experienced a doctor that told them the same thing as mine did after he did something (had to be done) that left our son screaming his little head off.


"Don't worry newborn babies nervous systems aren't fully functioning yet, he didn't feel a thing!"

Yeah fucking right....corse they feel it! they just dont remember it.

[R-Soul]

Jesus wept. Let's prey on people's fears and insecurities. Men have just as many issues about their sexuality than do women. They just don't have women's magazines to endlessly pore over these matters for them.

If I am to believe my daily email, True Happiness(TM) comes from having a fake degree, a Rolex and a HUGE cock. I guess one out of three is a start.

Sure your rolex isn't fake?

[Oscar]

They stopped circumcising Poms in the mid 80's when they discovered that they had been throwing away the best bit. Well actually, they sewed the throwaways into wallets that converted to suitcases with a few strokes.
This was about the same time that they found it needs four skin divers to circumcise a whale.
Groan. Yeah I know.


They cut so much off of mine, they created a whole new person with it.
A six foot prick, as it were.


I believe his name is John Key, or some such...

[R-Soul]

I have to make a decision on this pretty soon - my boy is due in September.

I have een doing a bit of reading and there are also mentions of reductions in certain types of cancer. What to do....?

[Slyer]

Everything increases/reduces cancer.

Leave the penis alone imo.

[Stirts]

Leave the penis alone

And here I was thinking that you were a bit of wanker :dodge:

[nodrog]

I have to make a decision on this pretty soon - my boy is due in September.

I have een doing a bit of reading and there are also mentions of reductions in certain types of cancer. What to do....?

cut his legs off too, that will reduce the risk of leg cancer.

[Maha]

cut his legs off too, that will reduce the risk of leg cancer.

Have you finished with my foreskin?
I no longer need it, just wondering.

[Ronin]

I have to make a decision on this pretty soon - my boy is due in September.

I have een doing a bit of reading and there are also mentions of reductions in certain types of cancer. What to do....?

You don't any choices at all. They will not do it as an elective procedure and there is no reason to.

[nodrog]

Have you finished with my foreskin?
I no longer need it, just wondering.

yep, it was no good, turns out my car has an electric fan.

[wysper]

I have to make a decision on this pretty soon - my boy is due in September.

I have een doing a bit of reading and there are also mentions of reductions in certain types of cancer. What to do....?

We had the same decision to make a few years ago. When our son was born. I have been circumcised. My boy has not been.
I am with the others that see no need, if there comes a time when there is a medical reason then sure. But I am not doing it to him just because I am.
40 years ago I am pretty sure it was the norm for young boys to be circumcised. Not now. So I would vote no don't do it.

[BoristheBiter]

Like the saying goes "if it is not broken leave it alone"

If it needs doing then fine but if not why do it?

[imdying]

I have to make a decision on this pretty soon - my boy is due in September.

I have een doing a bit of reading and there are also mentions of reductions in certain types of cancer. What to do....?Well, if you want him to have a bell end like a pron star, there's only one way forward... Or another way to look at it, would you want a bell end like a pron star?

[Maha]

Like the saying goes "if it is broken leave it alone"

If it needs doing then fine but if not why do it?

Because.........its one less thing to fucking clean.

[Stirts]

Because.........its one less thing to fucking clean.

It's called multi-tasking!
http://to55er.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/naked-dwarf-henry-vacuum-cleaner.jpg

[oldrider]

Had mine done in 1939, had to cut multiple times, Dad sold them, started a food delicacy craze, squid rings! Times were tough! There was a war on! :shifty:

[R-Soul]

Well, if you want him to have a bell end like a pron star, there's only one way forward... Or another way to look at it, would you want a bell end like a pron star?

I have a bell end like a porn star...

[2wheeldrifter]

This may help with the mass debate..... http://www.blumenthalclinic.com.au/Content_Common/pg-circumcision-procedure-sydney.seo


of topic... sort of, YES it really does has a bone! :)

http://sonokeling.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/broken-penis-8901.png?w=320&h=320

[munster]

"Don't worry newborn babies nervous systems aren't fully functioning yet, he didn't feel a thing!"
Mine hurt so much I didn't walk for nearly a year!

[Sentox]

This may help with the mass debate.....

I see what you did there.

[Kickaha]

It's called multi-tasking!

If women were better organised they wouldn't need to

[2wheeldrifter]

I see what you did there.

Made a mess myself didn't I....

[Ironclaw]

But what about in winter? doesn't your knob get cold if you've had the chop? no nice sleeping bag to keep it warm? :blink:

[mattian]

MY 8 year old grandson had to go and get circumised last week the poor wee man

Sorry, I haven't read anywhere in this thread where you say why he had to be circumcised. Was it for medical reasons? religious?

[mattian]

I dont know about the rest of you guys but, I feel so uncomfortable if my sword is out of its sheath while I have my clothes on. I cant imagine walking around like that all the time. Must be very uncomfortable.

[Ronin]

I dont know about the rest of you guys but, I feel so uncomfortable if my sword is out of its sheath while I have my clothes on. I cant imagine walking around like that all the time. Must be very uncomfortable.

Think liberating... As long as you don't stand on it to often

[Ronin]

It's called multi-tasking!


Maha is shorter than I thought

[Maha]

Maha is shorter than I thought

Some arse superimposed Finn behind my sucker thing.

[prvt parts]

Because.........its one less thing to fucking clean.

yeah! Get your ears cut back and your bum sewn up and don't forget to pull your teeth.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Sorry, I haven't read anywhere in this thread where you say why he had to be circumcised. Was it for medical reasons? religious?

It was for medical reasons he had to have this done why else would anyone do such a thing at his age. He is all good now though.

[XxKiTtiExX]

Mine hurt so much I didn't walk for nearly a year!


Hilarious.

[BoristheBiter]

I dont know about the rest of you guys but, I feel so uncomfortable if my sword is out of its sheath while I have my clothes on. I cant imagine walking around like that all the time. Must be very uncomfortable.

If i had a sword down my pants, sheathed or not, my cock would get in the way. maybe thats your problem.

[Gareth51]

Because.........its one less thing to fucking clean.

But don,t forget the 10--15min it takes to rub the lottion in before going out in the sun

[Trudes]

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[Clean_up]

To everyone out there that says it is easier to keep clean....BULLSHIT! Its just sheer laziness, if you look after your own hygine then it wont be a problem....i'm not cut, and PROUD of it....I have never had complaints, and NEVER had any woman turn me down because of it.....I think it is a BARBARIC tradition that is CRUEL.
As said by many before, ONLY if it is need for medical reasons, such as when the foreskin stops growning and gets tight around the head. NO OTHER REASON!

[Love my Bonnie]

Jewish women have the lowest cervical cancer rate in the world.
Coincidence that all jewish men are circumcised??

Had both my boys done when they were born.

[avgas]

But what about in winter? doesn't your knob get cold if you've had the chop? no nice sleeping bag to keep it warm? :blink:
I tried pants.
They are wonderful things.

[avgas]

cut his legs off too, that will reduce the risk of leg cancer.
Yes.
And its gangrene.

and toes for that matter.
Toe nails etc

[Stirts]

Jewish women have the lowest cervical cancer rate in the world.
Coincidence that all jewish men are circumcised

No, In Judaism sex is only allowed after marriage.

I found this little titbit of information regarding Judaism and sex

"Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy (marriage and joy in the same sentence - go figure).
Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. (Isn't that why we get married)
A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. (but that can be the best type of sex)
Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. (taking all the fun out of sex)
It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse."

So you see they have far less sex then the rest of us therefore the women are less susceptible to cervical cancer!

[Rogue Rider]

In this day and age, it really is stupid, back in the old testament times it was done principley for the purpose of hygiene. It was also a means through which cultures were differentiated.
Now days, the hygiene side of it is rendered pointless due to cleanliness and medical science developments. I personally believe it a pointless and fruitless act that is totally barbaric. It's a decision I feel an individual should make themselves, just like religion.
I really feel for your poor wee man, can't imaging the torment now, and ridicule for having a sore nob going to school. It makes me cringe at the thought.

[crazyhorse]

The procedure is rarely done these days on newborn babies - except in cases where children are born with foreskins that are too tight, or other reasons that cause problems. Then medically the procedure is performed. Unless you may be able to persuade your doctor to do it - but 99% of them are against it.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Can you find any doctors these day to even do it at birth. I know when the boys (Grandsons) where born there doctors wouldn't do it anyway.

[Skinon]

If yo dont have a foreskin, then how are you supposed to slap girls on the forehead with it? think about it.... FOREskin FOREhead, you think thats a coincidence?? And also when the missis is sleeping and your not tired and nothin on sky then what do you poke up her nose and in her ear? your finger? HA! extra fun and games is what the foreskin was made for jeeeez

[Forest]

Jewish women have the lowest cervical cancer rate in the world.
Coincidence that all jewish men are circumcised??

Had both my boys done when they were born.

Cervical cancer is spread by a sexually transmitted virus. It has no other known cause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus#Cancers

Congratulations retard. You have mutiliated your sons for no good reason.

http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/sep/vol49-sep-critical-1.asp


In men with low-risk sexual behaviour and monogamous female partners, circumcision makes no difference to the risk of cervical cancer.

[Slyer]

Worthless statistics used to justify horrific act - yet again.

[Gareth51]

At primary school,out of the whole class there was only one boy who wasn,t circumised
And he was about the only one who couldn,t pee out the toilet window onto the girls outside

[steel001]

"Congratulations retard. You have mutiliated your sons for no good reason."

Mutilated? I'm circumcised and I sure as hell don't feel like I have been mutilated...

Condescending ignorant asshole, it is allowable for someone to have a differing view ...shit what is NZ coming to?

[Thaeos]

"Congratulations retard. You have mutiliated your sons for no good reason."

Mutilated? I'm circumcised and I sure as hell don't feel like I have been mutilated...

Condescending ignorant asshole, it is allowable for someone to have a differing view ...shit what is NZ coming to?

Yea and his differing view is that it's mutliation, Condescending ignorant asshole?

[steel001]

Yea and his differing view is that it's mutliation, Condescending ignorant asshole?

It may be viewed as an inappropriate thing to do, and for that reason no one would force the parents to make the decision. Every parent makes the decision for themselves and their family based on their own beliefs. Shit obviously we disagree but I do agree with healthy debate .

Where I take offence is the use of the word 'mutilation', both my nephews are circumcised and if whoever it may be wants to state that someone in my family by taking action based upon belief 'mutilated' another of my family members... well I hold that they are a condescending ignorant asshole.

[Berries]

Where I take offence is the use of the word 'mutilation', both my nephews are circumcised and if whoever it may be wants to state that someone in my family by taking action based upon belief 'mutilated' another of my family members... well I hold that they are a condescending ignorant asshole.
Mutilation is exactly what this is. What would you call it then ? A little trim ?

I fail to see how any belief considers this an aceptable practice. It is, frankly, mediaeval. Anybody who supports it for non medical reasons needs their head examined, and for those who do it for some cult like religious purposes, well, there is no point even trying to have an argument with such ingrained and offfensive views. How you can link the practice with some all loving entity I do not know.


Mutilated? I'm circumcised and I sure as hell don't feel like I have been mutilated...
Me too and neither do I. But I sure as hell would not inflict that pain on anyone I loved for some spurious reason based on what ? I can't even understand why some of these religious groups don't eat bacon, so chopping the end off the most sensitive part of the body is perhaps a bit beyond me. Maybe I will have to go and watch Saw II again to get in the right frame of mind.

[scracha]

Where I take offence is the use of the word 'mutilation', both my nephews are circumcised and if whoever it may be wants to state that someone in my family by taking action based upon belief 'mutilated' another of my family members... well I hold that they are a condescending ignorant asshole.


Female circumcision is also based upon belief. Are people who speak against it condescending ignorant arseholes too?

[sugilite]

Circumcision under religious grounds is just weird. What are they saying? "Yeah God, thanks for making us in your perfect divine image, but you got one bit wrong, epic fail dude"

[R-Soul]

Circumcision under religious grounds is just weird. What are they saying? "Yeah God, thanks for making us in your perfect divine image, but you got one bit wrong, epic fail dude"

LOL!! Good one!

[R-Soul]

No, In Judaism sex is only allowed after marriage.

I found this little titbit of information regarding Judaism and sex

"Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy (marriage and joy in the same sentence - go figure).
Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. (Isn't that why we get married)
A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. (but that can be the best type of sex)
Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. (taking all the fun out of sex)
It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse."

So you see they have far less sex then the rest of us therefore the women are less susceptible to cervical cancer!

Yeah and if you believe that, you stillbelieve in the tooth fairy too... teenagers will be teenagers.
Jewish teenagers are no different from Christians - they still have overpowering hormones whirring thourgh their body....

[Love my Bonnie]

Congratulations retard. You have mutiliated your sons for no good reason.

http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/sep/vol49-sep-critical-1.asp

Name calling??? How very mature of you.

[Bass]

Congratulations retard. You have mutiliated your sons for no good reason.

http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/sep/vol49-sep-critical-1.asp

But....but....but.....did you read the article you have quoted right through?
It clearly indicates that circumcision reduces the susceptibility to human papilloma virus infection in some circumstances and HIV in most circumstances. The doc who wrote it even states that she used to recommend against circumcision but is rethinking her views.
Mate, you've shot yourself in the foot.

[Stirts]

Yeah and if you believe that, you stillbelieve in the tooth fairy too... teenagers will be teenagers.
Jewish teenagers are no different from Christians - they still have overpowering hormones whirring thourgh their body....

Fuck you - tooth fairies are REAL!!!

My belief..............
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/Wes878/screwed-religion-demotivational-pos.jpg

[Berries]

For some reason this subject really winds me up. I don't get stressed about the whales, or the starving people of the world, or people who refuse to take their helmet off when filling up, but I do have problems when people force their nutjob religious views on to babies too young to argue when it is the slicing off of part of the body they were born with. It just makes no sense.

"Sod millions of years of evolution, let's cut it off" or is it "Nah sorry, God was wrong about that bit, let's cut it off" ?

Maybe my view has strengthened now I have a one year old boy and because of what I went through, but seriously, if your religion forbade nose picking because it was immoral, would you have your kids index finger chopped off or stitch up the nostrils ? Mmmm, stitch up the nostrils. Brings us back to female circumcision, another abhorrent practice that people defend with bulshit reasons.

Rant over, time for a ride.

[Grubber]

Name calling??? How very mature of you.

Just what i was thinking mate!
Some of these threads are getting full of this.

[Elysium]

Nothing barbaric about the pratice as long its done after birth.

[0100]

I can't believe I just read all 16 pages of this thread

[Slyer]

You must be really intrigued by penises.
I've got one if you're interested.

[Trudes]

I can't believe I just read all 16 pages of this thread

So what does that tell you?

[0100]

I was actually fascinated watching two distinct opinions being developed. It was certainly an interesting debate, although I am still undecided on the issue...

[Maha]

I was actually fascinated watching two distinct opinions being developed. It was certainly an interesting debate, although I am still undecided on the issue...

Of Mass proportions?

[0100]

Of Mass proportions?


funny guy

I'll put it down to total boredom at work which made me read all 16 pages.

[Bren]

Only some lucky ones will find out.....and alas most of KB aint that lucky...or that stoopid

[Mom]

FUNGI

Nope, thats the very last thing you could associate him with.

[0100]

you guys are weird

[Lurch]

This thread makes my head hurt.

:eek:

[Bobbyman]

Brutal ! Having no fore would be like having a vivid with no lid haha.

Read this. Lolled. Then realised there's another 14 pages about foreskins to go.

[0100]

Read this. Lolled. Then realised there's another 14 pages about foreskins to go.

At least you were smart enough not to read them.

[myvice]

Nothing barbaric about the pratice as long its done after birth.

As opposed to?

[Brownbikerbabe]

had to go and get circumised

What's your thoughts

"Had to" would signify to me that it was for medical reasons.

[myvice]

"Had to" would signify to me that it was for medical reasons.

So if you don’t it could be… (puts on sun glasses) … the end of you?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

[Banditbandit]

Relctant to post this one .. because ... well you'll see ...

There's strong evidence to suggest that the circumcised penis losses sensitivity and therefore sex is better for uncircumcised males ... the protective foreskin maintains sensistivity in and below the glans, so when it is removed sensitivity is lost ..

Read this: http://mensightmagazine.com/Articles/Northrup/lovecirc.htm

And yeah .. now all you poor circumcised bastards can scream at me ... but you'll never know ...

And the ladies? Well girls, now you know what to look for in a man !

Singing:
"I got rhythm
...
I got my girl
Who could ask for anything more"

With no apologies to George Gershwin but plenty of thanks to my parents (who refused to do it to me ... )

[myvice]

Kind of attached to mine, might not be able to find it at all on those cold winter rides without it!
Always seemed like a bit of a barbaric practice, and although it may have had merit in the distant past I would struggle to find purpose in having it done today.

Has anyone made a bad pun about “leaving a tip” yet?

[terbang]

Well it didn't make me an axe murderer...

[myvice]

Well it didn't make me an axe murderer...

Well try harder...

[avgas]

So if you don’t it could be… (puts on sun glasses) … the end of you?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Wheres your point?

I will wait for you to find it

[marie_speeds]

Wheres your point?

Most likely in the hospital incinerator.........

[thecharmed01]

"Barbaric" my arse. Surprisingly it's mostly women who get upset about male circumcision. I have yet to meet anybody who has been scarred emotionally by having their foreskin removed as a young infant, other than whiney Green Party voters.

This cracked me up, most guys I know are cut and not a single one has any issue with it.
To be honest, I wouldnt go near an un-cut guy, but that's personal preference.... I prefer the look and cleanliness of un-cut.


In the modern world however, there is little reason to circumcise. The medical benefits are as follows:
• Decrease in physical problems involving a tight foreskin
• Lower incidence of inflammation of the head of the penis
• Reduced urinary tract infections.
• Fewer problems with erections, especially at puberty.
• Decrease in certain sexually transmitted infections (STIs) such as HIV, HPV, chlamydia, syphilis in men and their partner(s).
• Almost complete elimination of invasive penile cancer.
• Decrease in urological problems generally.

Those are among the reasons I had my son circumcised and will have the next boy done too.
Their father was done, as was his father and grandfather.

I've also had 5 male family members (young children) who have had 'issues' where they have either had urinary issues, or infections, or worse and had to be treated - and one circumcised very late which was horrible for him!
I never want my children to be at risk of requiring a late circumcision.
The healing process when they are older is just awful!

I have a friend who was done at 20 as he had refused to admit to anyone he was so embarrased that he couldn't pee properly until he couldn't pee at all! It took him more than 10 minutes to pee 1/4 of a cup of urine! He finally was had up about it because he was also refusing sex due to the pain and ended up having to be circumcised! It's taken him almost a year to be able to have sex again! It was horrific for him!



Yeah fucking right....corse they feel it! they just dont remember it.

They absolutely feel it, but no more so than their 6 week vaccinations...
My son was 3 days old when I had him circumcised. I was in the room and there was no 'pinning' down.
A nurse and I stood at his head, held his hands and I stroked his head and talked to him throughout.
The Dr held his legs and performed the circumcision which took less than 10 seconds!
It took the Dr longer to sterilise the skin than to actually do it and while my son cried, he actually cried louder when the Dr was applying the iodine to his skin! He screamed at the cold of the iodine.... then was only having a whinge when they actually clipped him. I didn't realise it had even been done till the Dr asked me if I wanted to breastfeed him now.
He calmed and stopped crying within 2 minutes of the procedure.
He didn't show any discomfort in peeing afterwards.
Nappy changes were a breeze, he had no issue with me moving and cleaning around his penis right from the same day.
In the bath a week later, the bandage floated off after about 5 minutes and he was clean and happy!

As a direct comparision for those people arguing that the pain is unneccesary, 5 weeks later I had to take my son for his 6 week vaccinations.
When the first needle went in, my son screamed blue murder.
then they turned him round and put ANOTHER needle into his other leg and if I thought he screamed the first time, holy heck the second time, you would have thought they were amputating the leg without anaesthetic!!!!
He was absolutely inconsolable! It took me 20 minutes to calm him down!
I had thought after him barely noticing the circumcision that jabs would be easy, but no.
I think vaccinations are far more cruel!
Not to mention that I could barely touch either of his legs for 3 days as he would just cry out in pain - whereas I could touch and move his penis (dressed) within a couple of hours and he didn't react with any pain at all.

I think that if people WANT to circumcise their children then good for them.
But if you DON'T want to, then don't.

Rather pointless to abuse anyone for their choice though, won't make either side change their minds.... and for the most part, if you abuse someone for doing it the way they want to, you will likely just make their resolve stronger and they will be more likely to do it again.

We all have differing opinions for a reason. World would be a boring place if we all felt the same :P

[Slyer]

We all have differing opinions for a reason. World would be a boring place if we all felt the same :P
Yeah, except my opinions are right and yours are wrong.

[thecharmed01]

Yeah, except my opinions are right and yours are wrong.

now that's all relative isn't it?

[SMOKEU]

What's the sudden interest in cock? So far there have been 2 thread dredges on the subject tonight, what's next?

[Gibbo89]

it's the girls on this site bringing it up... it has to be!

[SMOKEU]

it's the girls on this site bringing it up... it has to be!

I'd be worried if it wasn't the girlies. It's about time some vagina threads were up and running, just to balance things out. :corn:

[Slyer]

Yep, Vaginas are pretty much the best thing ever.
Even though I only think that because I've been hard-wired to think that.
I don't give a fuck!

[PrincessBandit]

Holy hell, how recently was this dredged???? (or was it merged by a mod with a very looooong memory?)

For the record, I dont' care either way - cut or sausage rolls, they look the same when it cums down to the business end of things.....

[Jonno.]

This cracked me up, most guys I know are cut and not a single one has any issue with it.
To be honest, I wouldnt go near an un-cut guy, but that's personal preference.... I prefer the look and cleanliness of un-cut.

Those are among the reasons I had my son circumcised and will have the next boy done too.
Their father was done, as was his father and grandfather.

I've also had 5 male family members (young children) who have had 'issues' where they have either had urinary issues, or infections, or worse and had to be treated - and one circumcised very late which was horrible for him!
I never want my children to be at risk of requiring a late circumcision.
The healing process when they are older is just awful!


That is rediculous. 95% of the male population isn't circumsized and only 1000 circumsizition a year are done for medical reasons.

http://www.circumstitions.com/Images/nz-yeahright.gif

[Virago]

The minority practice of circumcision has the same medical "benefits" as breast implants - and is done for similar reasons - at the end of the day it comes down to cosmetic trivia and shallow bias.

[thecharmed01]

That is rediculous. 95% of the male population isn't circumsized and only 1000 circumsizition a year are done for medical reasons.

Would like to know where you get your statistics.... The Dr I use does more than that and he is only in one suburb LOL

[Jonno.]

Your doctor circumsized 5% of the newborn children in NZ? :laugh:


http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/NZ/
http://www.circlist.com/rites/newzealand.html
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/New_Zealand_study_finds_circumcision_cuts_STD_infe ction_rate

[thecharmed01]

Your doctor circumsized 5% of the newborn children in NZ? :laugh:


http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/NZ/
http://www.circlist.com/rites/newzealand.html
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/New_Zealand_study_finds_circumcision_cuts_STD_infe ction_rate

Perhaps you should READ the sources you quote... those stats are from 1995!!!!!!!
The Dr who we used, has a fully booked schedule and tight time constraints.
You have to book in WELL before delivery to see him as he will only perform circumcisions in babes under 2 weeks old and he only runs the clinic on Mondays.
I had booked my son in 6 weeks before he was born.

[Banditbandit]

I had booked my son in 6 weeks before he was born.

And I suppose you'd be in favour of Female circumcision ? Or are you a male-hating butch chick ?

That's cruel and heartless ... don't you know sex is better for uncircumcised men ? and for their partners ?

http://mensightmagazine.com/Articles/Northrup/lovecirc.htm

You've condenmed your son to half a sex life ....

[avgas]

Doctor slipped with mine. But he told me that if I wanted a new tip, that I should come to KB and look for dickheads.

Such a variety here too:yes: