BDOTGNZA work programme for 2008

[Hitcher]

Having made some progress on the arse and apostrophe front, the BDOTGNZA have decided to add some other items to their "Hit List" for 2007.

At the entry-level, work is still required enforcing basic standards, such as the convention of starting sentences with a capital letter, ending them with a full stop, and putting a space between the two.

The BDOTGNZA also wish it noted that a sentence should contain a subject and a minimum of one verb.

A new addition is the expression "eh". This is not spelt "aye" or "ay", amongst the more common "alternatives".

Final recommendations are still pending from the BDOTGNZA's hyphen steering committee. Watch this space!

Other suggestions for the "Hit List" are welcome.

Merry Christmas from the Brave Defenders.

[Ixion]

..

The BDOTGNZA also wish it noted that a sentence should contain a subject and a minimum of one verb.

...

Yeah, right.

[Squeak the Rat]

Ditto.



Actually I'm glad you have decided to target aye. That's what a pirate says FFS. As in "Aye me 'earty roger the yard arm oooo-aaaarrr."

[McJim]

I beg permission to continue to use "aye" as it is my way of expressing an affirmative sentiment. In this form it is not pronounced "eh" but rather like "I". for further clarification on this point please view older episodes of Star Trek and listen to the engineer.

[xwhatsit]

It should be noted that `aye' is a perfectly cromulent word. It's not the same thing as `eh', but it does parse.

Ta.

[terbang]

Anyways. Please stamp out Anyways.

[bugjuice]

fuk'n ay man..

[jrandom]

Today, during luncheon, a couple of my esteemed colleagues and I espied a '98 Falcon sedan parked in Newmarket. The personalised plate read 'IWI AU'.

Much ROFLing commenced.

I wonder if the phonetics were intentional?

[Hitcher]

Anyways. Please stamp out Anyways.

Oh indeed yes. And anyhoo. And gotten.

[terbang]

It should be noted that `aye' is a perfectly cromulent word. It's not the same thing as `eh', but it does parse.

Ta.

Aye she's a canny wee hinney you know.

[ManDownUnder]

uh huh. High horse... time to let someone else have a turn...

[Hitcher]

Today, during luncheon, a couple of my esteemed colleagues and I espied a '98 Falcon sedan parked in Newmarket. The personalised plate read 'IWI AU'.

Much ROFLing commenced.

I wonder if the phonetics were intentional?

That is an extremely clever plate. One suspects it was a happy accident.

[Squeak the Rat]

Scotty was a pirate? :gob:

[Hitcher]

I beg permission to continue to use "aye" as it is my way of expressing an affirmative sentiment. In this form it is not pronounced "eh" but rather like "I". for further clarification on this point please view older episodes of Star Trek and listen to the engineer.

The BDOTGNZA grants exceptions for the legitimate use of Scots. And Erse.

[xwhatsit]

Oh indeed yes. And anyhoo. And gotten.

When I first started learning English again, my teacher told me a few people get uptight about `gotten'. She told me (well she's Scottish, so she may not know English the best ;)) that `gotten' is just an old form of the past participle of `get', which the English began to use less of around the same time that the US started to use their own language. In America it's still appropriate to use `gotten', but in England it's not so common, but it is still used in certain dialects, and in Northern communities, especially lower-class ones.

I wouldn't call it the Queen's English, but it's still English of a sort... unlike most Americanisms.

[Squeak the Rat]

but it is still used in certain dialects, and in Northern communities, especially lower-class ones.

Those dialects are nasty beasties.

I was taught to never use the word got. Any use of this in a school exam automatically got you a deduction from your final mark.

[Skunk]

Woot! Meh, eh?

[jrandom]

gotten

Indeed. 'Gotten' is an archaic form. The BDOTGNZA should stop picking nits off the hairs they're splitting and concentrate on degeneration, not resurrection.

[Ixion]

Oh indeed yes. And anyhoo. And gotten.

An ill-gotten notion best for-gotten. I can't think what's gotten into you.

Well enough for you young folk, but I'll stick with the good old ways.
If it were good enough for young Geoffrey, 'twere good enough for me

For he had gotten him yet no benefice,
Ne was not worldly, to have an office.
For him was lever have at his bed's head
Twenty bookes, clothed in black or red,
Of Aristotle, and his philosophy,
Than robes rich, or fiddle, or psalt'ry.

[Ixion]

The BDOTGNZA grants exceptions for the legitimate use of Scots. And Erse.

Wot aboot Doric, aye?

[MisterD]

Indeed. 'Gotten' is an archaic form. The BDOTGNZA should stop picking nits off the hairs they're splitting and concentrate on degeneration, not resurrection.

While we're at the hair-splitting level, does anyone want to advance Bill Bryson's argument that American English has, in fact, diverged less from the English spoken by the Pilgrim Fathers at the time they left England...?

[Ixion]

And, more importantly than semantic quibbles, note - STILL no mention of green stamps!

[jrandom]

American English has, in fact, diverged less...?

Well, I'd certainly rather listen to Bostonian than Scouse.

Then again, it's not hard for average American English to avoid divergence; each generation seems to restrict itself to a subset of its parent's vocabulary.

In another century or two, the Jean Claude van Damme types crawling through Murka's post-apocalyptic ruins will undoubtedly communicate using only the words "attorney" and "cheeseburger".

[Maha]

The question has to aksed....is the word TEXTED.......(as in 'a text has been sent)..the right term?....or even a word for that matter?
I think not........if you have sent a text?....you have just 'text' that person...
TEXTED IS NOT A WORD

[TerminalAddict]

fuk'n ay man..

fuk'n eh man .. just doesn't have the same visual appeal eh?

I think "fuk'n ay man" should be an exception

[Squeak the Rat]

I always thought it was Fuck'n A. As in, A is for Outstanding.

[Hitcher]

I always thought it was Fuck'n A. As in, A is for Outstanding.

Indeed. And O is for awesome, to quote David Tua.

[bugjuice]

Indeed. And O is for awesome, to quote David Tua.
that's what happens when you bang your head too much.
My mother always told me I'd just go blind..

[MisterD]

Well, I'd certainly rather listen to Bostonian than Scouse.


Was that a deliberate pick of two heavily Irish-influenced accents? I'll disagree on that point, but if someone shoots every last Brummie they'd be doing the worlds' ears a favour for sure.

[Hitcher]

The question has to aksed....is the word TEXTED.......(as in 'a text has been sent)..the right term?....or even a word for that matter?
I think not........if you have sent a text?....you have just 'text' that person...
TEXTED IS NOT A WORD

In this context "text" is a verb, a contraction of "text message". We're lucky in New Zealand. Other countries have assigned verb status to the abbreviation SMS.

[MisterD]

Indeed. And O is for awesome, to quote David Tua.

Starting with:

'A' is for 'orses.
.
.
'E' for brick
.
.
'O' for the wings of a dove.....isn't it?

[Hitcher]

that's what happens when you bang your head too much.
My mother always told me I'd just go blind..

To which head was she referring?

[MSTRS]

Was that a deliberate pick of two heavily Irish-influenced accents? I'll disagree on that point, but if someone shoots every last Brummie they'd be doing the worlds' ears a favour for sure.

Oh, happy, joyous day. The lessons are taking hold.

[Hitcher]

Starting with:

'A' is for 'orses.
.
.
'E' for brick
.
.
'O' for the wings of a dove.....isn't it?

Stop it. You're reminding me of my father. W for a bob. Z for breezes. Terrible business.

[Hitcher]

Oh, happy, joyous day. The lessons are taking hold.

Oh no they're not. It should be world's. Sigh.

[MisterD]

Oh, happy, joyous day. The lessons are taking hold.

Ha! I had an ex that was a sub-editor...

[jrandom]

Oh, happy, joyous day. The lessons are taking hold.

No, they're not.

'ee fooked oop. Apostrophe shoulda gone before the ess in that instance.

[Edit: Bugger. Beaten to it. Nothing beats the sheer power and responsiveness of a civil servant with no GM corn scandals to spin.]

[MisterD]

Oh no they're not. It should be world's. Sigh.

I'll bow to your interpretation, I pluralised it since we're talking about the world being numerous people and the planet itself clearly doesn't have any lugs.

[MSTRS]

Oops. The world in this instance is singular?
But it would work if the word 'peoples' was used in that context.

[jrandom]

Oops. The world in this instance is singular?

I want some of what you're smoking.

[bugjuice]

To which head was she referring?
she never did say..

[MisterD]

Bugger. First, second and third worlds anyone? Hmm bob each way, isn't it? Hmmm....Oh the perils of posting in a grammer-related thread.

[MSTRS]

I want some of what you're smoking.

Your an ass, ay?
There - always wanted to see how the other half lives. *doesn't like it*

[Lissa]

aye? what does BDOTGNZA mean? Are you looking for members? Can I join? I cant spell and I dont know what an apostrophe is, but I CAN start a sentence with a capital letter!!

See!

[Ixion]

You would not want to join, they don't give green stamps. Unlike BOTTYNZ, the original grammar nazis, and still the best. On all occasions demand BOTTY. We give green stamps.

[Blackbird]

Whilst we're having a rant, I would like to draw attention to the fact that DISINTERESTED and UNINTERESTED are not the same effing thing, despite TV interviewers attempts to make them interchangeable.

And another thing to support one of the earlier posts. A trip to the UK after a lengthy absence was alarming from the perspective of a marked decline in the use of good English and the rise in slang. I thought the influence of American TV programmes and films (ahem... not movies) was bad enough in NZ but we are the last defenders of good English by comparison.

Although I live in Tokoroa, I have not yet felt the need to say Aye Bro (or more correctly, Eh Bro). Just thought I'd add that for the record.

[Squeak the Rat]

I too will highlight a gripe of mine, also mis-said by newsreaders, radio jocks and other members of the general population.

A bag of weed does not cost a hundred dollars. You do not use a hundred dollar note to pay for it. It costs one hundred dollars.

Bastards.

[_Gina_]

Pacifically.

I know you all know one person who abuses the English language like this.

[Maha]

Pacifically.



Love that word......well no not really but i used the word AKSED in an earlier post and it went straight over someone's head. And head was also used, but thats not such a strange word is it?

[Squeak the Rat]

I aksed the fulla why he didn't uce his walkman while cleaning the chimley. He said he had no bakkery.

[MSTRS]

Love that word......well no not really but i used the word AKSED in an earlier post and it went straight over someone's head. And head was also used, but thats not such a strange word is it?

That doesn't count. If it was Someone, then there would be cause for alarm.

[Maha]

That doesn't count. If it was Someone, then there would be cause for alarm.

I stand corrected...........it was HITCHER....:dodge:

[jrandom]

A bag of weed does not cost a hundred dollars.

That's an overly categorical statement, IMHO; depends on supply, demand, and quantity, dunnit?

But yes, fair point. I usually buy mine by the $50-bag or ounce.

I guess your average newsreader just isn't the weed-smoking type.

[Lissa]

You would not want to join, they don't give green stamps. Unlike BOTTYNZ, the original grammar nazis, and still the best. On all occasions demand BOTTY. We give green stamps.

Now Botty I know that word - " botty man is someone who appears to be camp or not up to date with style. Also can be used as a word to describe a nerd or geek". Hmm not too sure I want to join... :mellow:

[jrandom]

Now Botty I know that word

In your profile picture, are you the funny-looking lady with the bun-like hairdo, or the baby with hands raised in surrender?

[MSTRS]

I stand corrected...........it was HITCHER....:dodge:

His absence at this point speaks volumes...cue scene of John Cleese squatting down with jacket pulled up over head

[MSTRS]

Lissa...just say "yes":innocent:

[Lissa]

In your profile picture, are you the funny-looking lady with the bun-like hairdo, or the baby with hands raised in surrender?

Get out of my profile YOU!!!

Infact starting to wonder if fish and ixion are the same people.. I suppose you are both part of the botty cult?

Answer is YES!! ;)

[MisterD]

DISINTERESTED and UNINTERESTED are not the same effing thing, despite TV interviewers attempts to make them interchangeable.

If we're bemoaning the low journalistic standards in this country, can someone start be taking the idiots that front Helenvision NZ to one side and explaning this to them: Tough interviewing does not mean simply interrupting the interviewee mid-way through their answer to your previous question.

[jrandom]

I suppose you are both part of the botty cult?

Depends on the botty in question.

Come to think of it, we're in need of volunteers...

[Blackbird]

His absence at this point speaks volumes...cue scene of John Cleese squatting down with jacket pulled up over head

I would have thought that his absence is more likely explained by a lengthy expense account lunch or kissing Mr Anderton's Ass/Arse/Botty:innocent:

[Ixion]

Infact starting to wonder if fish and ixion are the same people.. I suppose you are both part of the botty cult?



Oi - I ain't him/her . (S)he is odd,and strange, not at all like me. Though what is most comical , since Mr(s) Fish avatarjacked my avatar, is that his/her avatar acutally *IS* a picture of Ixion .

[Brian d marge]

I too will highlight a gripe of mine, also mis-said by newsreaders, radio jocks and other members of the general population.

A bag of weed does not cost a hundred dollars. You do not use a hundred dollar note to pay for it. It costs one hundred dollars.

Bastards.

A or the older version " an " mean one , and stem from the Proto Indo language group ...the naughty n is all to blame , it couldnt decide whose camp it was in !


Stephen

[Lissa]

Depends on the botty in question.

Come to think of it, we're in need of volunteers...

Whats the pay like?


Oi - I ain't him/her . (S)he is odd,and strange, not at all like me. Though what is most comical , since Mr(s) Fish avatarjacked my avatar, is that his/her avatar acutally *IS* a picture of Ixion .

Thats just weird... and you prob smell, like fish!

[Blackbird]

Oi - I ain't him/her . (S)he is odd,and strange, not at all like me. Though what is most comical , since Mr(s) Fish avatarjacked my avatar, is that his/her avatar acutally *IS* a picture of Ixion .

I'm mildly disappointed. Where is the Meerschaum pipe and Brough Superior?

[Alice]

I beg permission to continue to use "aye" as it is my way of expressing an affirmative sentiment. In this form it is not pronounced "eh" but rather like "I". for further clarification on this point please view older episodes of Star Trek and listen to the engineer.

English is a confusing language, sometimes "aye" depending on the tone used can mean " what the fuk are you on about ! "

[jrandom]

English is a confusing language, sometimes "aye" depending on the tone used can mean " what the fuk are you on about ! "

No, that's 'eh'.

[Hitcher]

I'll bow to your interpretation, I pluralised it since we're talking about the world being numerous people and the planet itself clearly doesn't have any lugs.

Gahhhh! Apostrophes have NOTHING to do with plurals. They're about POSSESSION. And not by demons or the ghosts of the illiterate.

[ManDownUnder]

No, that's 'eh'.

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www.dictionary.com

[ManDownUnder]

Gahhhh! Apostrophes have NOTHING to do with plurals. They're about POSSESSION. And not by demons or the ghosts of the illiterate.

I find they work really well at pissing people off too aye...

[Hitcher]

aye? what does BDOTGNZA mean?

Mean? It's what it stands for that is more important. It's a movement. And use the search engine for more information. In fact you can even Google it. Oh, the POWER of the Interweb...

And you mean Eh, not aye.

[Squeak the Rat]

Speaking of a movement, do NOT go in there. Phhhheeeeewwwwwyyyyy. :done:

[ManDownUnder]

Depends on the botty in question.

Come to think of it, we're in need of volunteers...

Hairy, used daily, and exit only...

interested?

[jrandom]

an interrogative utterance...

Are you attempting to support or refute my statement?

[ManDownUnder]

Are you attempting to support or refute my statement?

I was dearly trying to refute it and ended up learning something... Not sure how I feel now.

[jrandom]

Gahhhh! Apostrophes have NOTHING to do with plurals.

It was a liquid expense-account lunch, then, old bean?

He wasn't saying apostrophes have anything to do with plurals. He was talking about the spelling convention of using an apostrophe following, but not followed by, an 's' to indicate possession by a plural.

[Ixion]

I'm mildly disappointed. Where is the Meerschaum pipe and Brough Superior?

The other Ixion. Not me. And it's a Norton (which is even more comical bearing in mind that M(r)s Fish rides a Spagthorpe)

[Hitcher]

And, on the subject of newsreaders and their kaiwai twangs, last week I heard that an imminent person's group had been set up for some worthy purpose; not to mention the new Ear New Zealand Cup; or the Evers-Swindell sisters who regularly compete in the women's pears. It's enough to make one want to involve the Pleece, or one's sekitry.

[ManDownUnder]

BDOTGNZA

Boring Drivvle Of The Gammar Nazi Asshole's?

[car]

I beg permission to continue to use "aye" as it is my way of expressing an affirmative sentiment. In this form it is not pronounced "eh" but rather like "I".

Seconded.


for further clarification on this point please view older episodes of Star Trek and listen to the engineer.

I canna take much more o' that.

[jrandom]

Boring Drivvle Of The Gammar Nazi Asshole's?

You should have capitalised that zee.

[Hitcher]

Boring Drivvle Of The Gammar Nazi Asshole's?

Drivel. Grammar. Arsehole. Have you learned nothing?

[ManDownUnder]

You should have capitalised that zee.

Na - once there are too many rules I can't be arsed

[ManDownUnder]

Drivel. Grammar. Arsehole. Have you learned nothing?

Learned? Yes.

Found interest in? Zip, Nada, Not a jot, Nothing, Less than fuck all, What Paddy shot at...

Who'd have guessed there were a few errors in there? :whistle:

[Squeak the Rat]

Good to see everyones' haveing a equally productive day as me.

[Blackbird]

The other Ixion. Not me. And it's a Norton (which is even more comical bearing in mind that M(r)s Fish rides a Spagthorpe)


My head hurts:shutup:

[McJim]

Drivel. Grammar. Arsehole. Have you learned nothing?

No, he meant Asshole..noun: a subterranean storage facility for pit ponies, donkeys, mules and other beasts of burden..hole for an ass.

[ManDownUnder]

OK, what does BDOTG... whatever the fuck... actually stand for.

Goologe didn't tell me, and I can't arsed wading through pages of grammatically anal corrective surgery to find out.

Speak up or be prepare to be harrassed at every opportunity!

[TerminalAddict]

Brave defenders of the great New Zealand Arse

or generally nit picky bastids .. you choose ;)

[yungatart]

Please can we sort out "your" vs "you're"?
Whatever happened to allow so many people to have no understanding of this. It was thoroughly drummed/beaten into me by the time I was in Primer 4..Year 2, to all you young ones.

[Squeak the Rat]

How deos BDOTGNZA sntad in relation riletaon to plpeoe who mix tiher lteters?


Please can we sort out "your" vs "you're"?
Whatever happened to allow so many people to have no understanding of this. It was thoroughly drummed/beaten into me by the time I was in Primer 4..Year 2, to all you young ones.

People advocating good spelling should not be swimming in paint. :)

[TerminalAddict]

bahahaha .. that's gold right thur !!!

[ManDownUnder]

Brave defenders of the great New Zealand Arse

or generally nit picky bastids .. you choose ;)

Helens' diplomatic protection detail?

[Blackbird]

OK, what does BDOTG... whatever the fuck... actually stand for.

Goologe didn't tell me, and I can't arsed wading through pages of grammatically anal corrective surgery to find out.

Speak up or be prepare to be harrassed at every opportunity!

Top marks to you Nigel, I had just done a cut and was about to paste it into Google. I shall now shut down the pooter and go Xmas shopping. Thank you all for an entertaining afternoon which was infinitely more interesting than what I was supposed to be doing to earn a crust.

[McJim]

Please can we sort out "your" vs "you're"?
Whatever happened to allow so many people to have no understanding of this. It was thoroughly drummed/beaten into me by the time I was in Primer 4..Year 2, to all you young ones.

You're messing with your apostrophes.

By the way, I kept meaning to ask this, no offence intended but.....is yungatart supposed to sound like:

a/ Young at heart
or
b/ Younger tart

I'm just wondering what your name is trying to say about you. :)

[ManDownUnder]

You're messing with your apostrophes.

By the way, I kept meaning to ask this, no offence intended but.....is yungatart supposed to sound like:

a/ Young at heart
or
b/ Younger tart

I'm just wondering what your name is trying to say about you. :)

I'm the same with Bigal

Is that Bi-gal, or Big Al?

[WRT]

Mean? It's what it stands for that is more important. It's a movement.

Great, so it starts off with an arse, then goes on to a Botty, and finally we end up with Hitcher's movements. This thread (and the BDOTGNZA) seem to be nothing more than a bunch of crap!


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Affirmative, the Aye's have it.


BDOTGNZA

Boring Drivvle Of The Gammar Nazi Asshole's?

(Snigger)

[yungatart]

You're messing with your apostrophes.

By the way, I kept meaning to ask this, no offence intended but.....is yungatart supposed to sound like:

a/ Young at heart
or
b/ Younger tart

I'm just wondering what your name is trying to say about you. :)

The answer is a/young at heart...but .. feckit, everyone gets it wrong and so I am affectionately referred to as tart..

[McJim]

I'm the same with Bigal

Is that Bi-gal, or Big Al?

It's pronounced Biggle I think. Singular of Biggles of Capt. W E Johns literary fame. Maybe his name is Biggleworth instead of Bigglesworth.

[bert_is_evil]

everythink we do we do to save you money

[Lissa]

OK, what does BDOTG... whatever the fuck... actually stand for.

Goologe didn't tell me, and I can't arsed wading through pages of grammatically anal corrective surgery to find out.

Speak up or be prepare to be harrassed at every opportunity!

Same here but when I Moogled it it just came up with treads such as this one, usually lead by Hitcher.. but no actual details has to what it means... think I will join Botty.. or Booty even!

[ManDownUnder]

Brave Defenders Of The Great New Zealand Arse???

So this is an anti anal/gay thing.... ? Hitch, you should be ashamed.

[Squeak the Rat]

Brave Defenders Of The Great New Zealand Arse???

So this is an anti anal/gay thing.... ? Hitch, you should be ashamed.

So this whole thread was just a shameless plug?

[MisterD]

Gahhhh! Apostrophes have NOTHING to do with plurals. They're about POSSESSION. And not by demons or the ghosts of the illiterate.

They do when moving them either side of an ess denotes possessed by one or by many...my point being that I made a choice whether "world" meant one thing or plural and the balance of opinion was that I was wrong. But I DO KNOW HOW A FUCKING APOSTROPHE WORKS! There, I feel better now, but slightly freaked by shouting at Hitcher:shutup:

[ManDownUnder]

So this whole thread was just a shameless plug?

Anal plug??

The vibrating kind?

[rwh]

Gahhhh! Apostrophes have NOTHING to do with plurals. They're about POSSESSION. And not by demons or the ghosts of the illiterate.

Except that you do need to move it when it's a possession of a plural, which I think is what he was talking about ... (eg the bikes' tyres vs. the bike's tyres)

[Edit: Oops. I'm a bit late. Sorry.]

My favourite hates are alternate/alternative, affect/effect and licence/license.

Though what's worse is when I realise I'm being infected, and I wan't to put an apostrophe in some totally absurd place ...

Richard

[ManDownUnder]

What's with the apostrophe in "won't"

should it not be willn't?

[jrandom]

should it not be willn't?

No; it should be wo'n't, same as can't should be ca'n't. In fact, you'll find that the current Penguin edition of Alice in Wonderland reverts to both.

Edit: In fact, I'm talking out my arse. AiW only uses ca'n't. "Wo'n't" is a fig of my h'imagination.

[ManDownUnder]

No; it should be wo'n't, same as can't should be ca'n't. In fact, you'll find that the current Penguin edition of Alice in Wonderland reverts to both.

Edit: In fact, I'm talking out my arse. AiW only uses ca'n't. "Wo'n't" is a fig of my h'imagination.

oooOOOoooo now that's interesting... not that I care enough to remember... but then it's quirky enough to stick.

[xwhatsit]

Lewis Carroll always did some weird things with his wurdses. He used mountains of apotrophes; some other writer I can't remember the same of was wont to leave them out instead. English isn't as sacred as Japanese; I would say it's more Cantonesey than Mandarinny.

[Disco Dan]

I dont get this? Hitcher are you a teacher?? :dodge:

Heck, im in my second year of my teaching degree... your looking at an emerging teacher that barely spells better than the primary children I am planning to teach!

meh, should be a laugh I suppose :done:

[jrandom]

I dont get this? ...
Heck, im in my second year of my teaching degree... your looking at an emerging teacher that barely spells better...

May God have mercy upon your soul.

For what we are about to receive...

[Ixion]

Nay, he is a serpent. A civil serpent, paid by TPTB to do what civil serpents have done so well since the time of Genesis.Politely. But mr Hitcher still has legs, they have not caught up with him yet.

[Mom]

Those dialects are nasty beasties.

I was taught to never use the word got. Any use of this in a school exam automatically got you a deduction from your final mark.

I was born in Canada, and raised here in NZ by a Mother with a degree in Literature and English (also Canadian) and a Scots father. No hope for me really however, my Mom (mother) forbade the use of EH/AYE or anything sounding remotely like the first letter of the alphabet at the end of a sentence......must admit it was not easy, I still do it sometimes...sigh

My step-daughter texts as she speaks, which certainly makes for interesting reading at times

[MSTRS]

Except that you do need to move it when it's a possession of a plural, which I think is what he was talking about ... (eg the bikes' tyres vs. the bike's tyres)



Late? Perhaps. But in the pursuit of a proper understanding of the English language, it is never too late.
You are (you're) right as long as you understand that both 'bike' and 'tyre' is/are (choose which one is correct) plural. If the possessed is singular, then I believe the apostrophe of the plural possessors reverts to before the ess.

[Mr. Peanut]

Gentlemen, I bring you the pyramid of needs. As you may or may not know, I am currently in the red zone.

You seem to be in a zone which is above and beyond the pyramid itself, so insignificant that it does not merit area.

Way too much time on your hands.

[SPman]

Verily, I say unto yous, we should come down hard on certain people who swap avatars - 'tis most confusing when you're in a hurry and fast scrolling...

[rwh]

Late? Perhaps. But in the pursuit of a proper understanding of the English language, it is never too late.
You are (you're) right as long as you understand that both 'bike' and 'tyre' is/are (choose which one is correct) plural. If the possessed is singular, then I believe the apostrophe of the plural possessors reverts to before the ess.

If the possessed is singular? You mean as in "the bikes' track" where one track belongs to multiple bikes? Are you suggesting that it should be "the bike's track" ? That seems wrong to me. It's a pretty contrived example though; perhaps "the bikes' exhaust" (meaning the gas from a group ride) would be better. "the bike's exhaust" still doesn't seem right.

Richard

[kro]

There is a simpsons quote for every moment in life.

[Hitcher]

Gentlemen, I bring you the pyramid of needs.
The BDOTGNZA believes that self-actualisation is so yesterday.

[Hitcher]

There is a Simpsons' quote for every moment in life.

Release the hounds, Smithers!

[NhuanH]

May the Jandal Sub-Committee submit that the use of "jandle" be met with instant death? Or at least universal derision?

[Hitcher]

May the Jandal Sub-Committee submit that the use of "jandle" be met with instant death? Or at least universal derision?

Yea, verily. It is written that The Jandal is truly sacred, and its Holy Name shall not be taken in vain. Instant death is too good a fate for those who besmirch the name of The Jandal. Their death shall be by jandal-slapping.

[cowpoos]

Having made some progress on the arse and apostrophe front, the BDOTGNZA have decided to add some other items to their "Hit List" for 2007.

At the entry-level, work is still required enforcing basic standards, such as the convention of starting sentences with a capital letter, ending them with a full stop, and putting a space between the two.

The BDOTGNZA also wish it noted that a sentence should contain a subject and a minimum of one verb.

A new addition is the expression "eh". This is not spelt "aye" or "ay", amongst the more common "alternatives".

Final recommendations are still pending from the BDOTGNZA's hyphen steering committee. Watch this space!

Other suggestions for the "Hit List" are welcome.

Merry Christmas from the Brave Defenders.
you just started this thread to cure your own boardness didn't ya hitch???

and get some interlectual attention???? hmmmm???

[Hitcher]

you just started this thread to cure your own boardness didn't ya hitch???

What kind of word is that? The external manifestation of being thick as two short planks? Should I be offended? Was your intention to be inciteful or insightful?

[mstriumph]

Oh indeed yes. And anyhoo. And gotten.

wat's wrong with 'gotten'?? i liiiiiiiiiiiiiiike 'gotten' :mellow:

[Trudes]

I'm the same with Bigal

Is that Bi-gal, or Big Al?

He told me it's big Al, not bi gal, but I have trouble not calling him big gay Al (please don't be offended Al and beat me :dodge: )

I have so many pet peeves, but my biggest one is the use of the words to, too and two. To, as in 'I'm going to the shop': Too, as in 'it is too far': and Two, as in 'it will take two minutes'.
My other major annoyance is the pronounciation of the name of the place I grew up; it is Gisborne, not Gizbin.
Thanks :done: , quick critique my post........

[yungatart]

Nup, 'tis' Gizzy!

[mstriumph]

.........If the possessed is singular................

as in 'demonically possessed'?? :shit:

[_Gina_]

wat's wrong with 'gotten'?? i liiiiiiiiiiiiiiike 'gotten' :mellow:
I like the thought of being "gotten"....on that basis, there's nothing wrong with gotten.

[mstriumph]

....................... but I CAN start a sentence with a capital letter!!



pswhah!! ANYone can start a sentence with ONE capital letter .......... where is your sense os ADVENTURE, gal??!

:dodge:

[yungatart]

pswhah!! ANYone can start a sentence with ONE capital letter .......... where is your sense os ADVENTURE, gal??!

:dodge:

Is that as in, oversize??

[Jantar]

In addition the BDOTGNZA should be making a supreme effort to stamp out the creeping use of americanisms. (eg burgularized instead of burgled.)

Why make our rich language complicated merely for the sake of complication?

[Hitcher]

Creeping Americanisms, particularly the naff ones, are in the Brave Defenders' sights!

[Crisis management]

Oh indeed yes. And anyhoo. And gotten.

HEY, I like anyhoo, its very emotive. Bugger off and leave it alone!!


That'll show em!

[Squeak the Rat]

Starting sentences with a capital is very important. Here's one I prepared earlier:

wellington truly does produce some interesting characters.

[cowpoos]

What kind of word is that? The external manifestation of being thick as two short planks? Should I be offended? Was your intention to be inciteful or insightful?
errrrrrrrr........erm........erm........errrrrrrr. .......


fuck I dunno....I just can't punctuate or spell....

[Lissa]

errrrrrrrr........erm........erm........errrrrrrr. .......


fuck I dunno....I just can't punctuate or spell....

Its alright poos... me neither! Bugger off leave him alone.........


.... oh dots ....... I love dots!

[cowpoos]

Its alright poos... me neither! Bugger off leave him alone.........


.... oh dots ....... I love dots!
dots are fun eh!!!...............everyone used to tease me about them when I first got on KB......now everyone use's them.....lmao!!! twits!!! ;)

[Lissa]

dots are fun eh!!!...............everyone used to tease me about them when I first got on KB......now everyone use's them.....lmao!!! twits!!! ;)

Yea........ bloody....... twits!!!! ................................. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... ;)

[apteryx_haasti]

Technically, I think there should be three dots...to make an ellipse (aka ellipsis aka suspension mark)


An ellipsis is sometimes used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence. Though not technically correct, ellipses are often used in this manner for internet chat, email, and forum posts.

I like them...they're fun!

[jrandom]

Creeping Americanisms, particularly the naff ones, are in the Brave Defenders' sights!

Nucular bum.

[giggle]

Sorry, I just like saying it.

Nucular bum, nucular bum, nucular bum...

[Brian d marge]

Those dialects are nasty beasties.

I was taught to never use the word got. Any use of this in a school exam automatically got you a deduction from your final mark.


me 2

more later me ole china !

Name and address with?held

Stephen

[Edbear]

He told me it's big Al, not bi gal, but I have trouble not calling him big gay Al (please don't be offended Al and beat me :dodge: )

I have so many pet peeves, but my biggest one is the use of the words to, too and two. To, as in 'I'm going to the shop': Too, as in 'it is too far': and Two, as in 'it will take two minutes'.
My other major annoyance is the pronounciation of the name of the place I grew up; it is Gisborne, not Gizbin.
Thanks :done: , quick critique my post........


Me too!:rockon:

[Edbear]

(meaning the gas from a group ride) Richard



Bit like in here, really...

[ManDownUnder]

I still have an issue with the "Brave" as the first word in the whole BDwheteverthefuckyouputnext

Persistant, Devoted (I'll gove you that), Vocal, Outspoken, Irrepressible... no problems.

But Brave? What - you're going to defend us from having our arms ripped off by an angry misspelled word? Maybe some gravel rash? Let's try "Color" (hurt?). "Specialize"?

"Napier Boy's High School"? (maybe the subtletly is more excruciating)

BDOwhogivesshit might be better placed on www.kiwispellingandgrammarchecker.co.nz (http://www.kiwispellingandgrammarchecker.co.nz) or www.anal.com (http://www.anal.com) (no... hang on - that's taken). While (whilst?) I understand it's annoying for some to have grammatically incorrect postings around the place, it might be worthy of mention this is a biking (and general talking shit) website.

To be fair - it is under rant and rave which is close to PD (in my book anyway) so...

[MSTRS]

Nucular bum.

[giggle]

Sorry, I just like saying it.

Nucular bum, nucular bum, nucular bum...

As in...we gonna nuke your ass??

[scumdog]

Now Botty I know that word - " botty man is someone who appears to be camp or not up to date with style. Also can be used as a word to describe a nerd or geek". Hmm not too sure I want to join... :mellow:

Now had you mentioned the word 'Totty'.......

"A fine bit of totty there'... (queue to noise of Homer making drooling noises)

[McJim]

It needs to be BDOTGNZA otherwise I wouldn't have spent the first 6 months on KB in mortal fear of the Dyslexic Columbian Drug Barons.

[WRT]

Release the hounds, Smithers!

Ah-ha! Actually, just to be Hitcher-esque about it all, I do believe (http://www.internet-guide.co.uk/simpsons-quotes.html) that the quote is:

"Smithers, release the hounds!"
FWIW, once it was even:

"Smithers, release the robotic Richard Simmons!"
There endith the lesson. :D

[Hitcher]

Starting sentences with a capital is very important. Here's one I prepared earlier:

wellington truly does produce some interesting characters.

Not to be confused with a moron starting a sentence. Moron this later...

[MisterD]

There is a simpsons quote for every moment in life.

..and a Python quote too I'll warrant.

As used by the crowned heads of Europe, guaranteed to break the ice at parties!

[MSTRS]

Ah-ha! Actually, just to be Hitcher-esque about it all, I do believe (http://www.internet-guide.co.uk/simpsons-quotes.html) that the quote is:

"Smithers, release the hounds!"
FWIW, once it was even:

"Smithers, release the robotic Richard Simmons!"
There endith the lesson. :D

...endeth...not to put too fine a point on it...

[WRT]

I did wonder about that, but didn't care enough to change it! :D

[mstriumph]

Is that as in, oversize??

oversize finger-trouble :o yerse ......

[mstriumph]

......................

.... oh dots ....... I love dots!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...... dots :love: :love: :love:

[mstriumph]

Technically, I think there should be three dots...to make an ellipse (aka ellipsis aka suspension mark)

I like them...they're fun!


but you can have more than three if it's a tipsy ellipsis?


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...... dots :love: :love: :love:

[SPman]

In addition the BDOTGNZA should be making a supreme effort to stamp out the creeping use of americanisms. (eg burgularized instead of burgled.)

Why make our rich language complicated merely for the sake of complication?

As in - devirginalised

[placidfemme]

*feels like I'm back in school after reading this thread*

*hands a note from my mommy saying I'm special and therefor exempt from this thread or any rules deemed by it in any and all of my future posts on KB...*

*runs off to smoke pot behind the bike sheds with the bad boys*

[MSTRS]

Stick around PF...you wouldn't want your adult years to be spent recapturing your mis-spent youth, would you?

[placidfemme]

Stick around PF...you wouldn't want your adult years to be spent recapturing your mis-spent youth, would you?

I don't like to think of it as mis-spent... rather tastefully wasted :rockon:

hehe I was never any good at english... verbs, nouns and the such :innocent:

[SPman]

Stick around PF...you wouldn't want your adult years to be spent recapturing your mis-spent youth, would you?

Or mis-spelt youth....

[MSTRS]

Or mis-spelt youth....

Youth. Y.O.U.T.H. ...hmmm...no, definitely spelt it right:innocent:

[McJim]

Stick around PF...you wouldn't want your adult years to be spent recapturing your mis-spent youth, would you?

I'm with MSTRS on this one - you definately need to mis-spend your adult years - it's sooo much more fun :devil2:

[crashe]

Yee gawds..........

Holy Batman ZAP POW WHACK.

Beam me up Scotty !

Anyways, this here thread has been a hoot. :rofl:

Did I learn a thing...... nup not a scareric.

Well yeah I did, but not worth mentioning really.

Can I spell....... yep I can...... well to a degree I can...... :whistle:

Do I know me verbs from me nouns...... yeah I reckon I does.

But ya know what........ I does like me 'aye', 'eh' and 'ya what' oh and not forgetting me 'anyways' or 'anyhow'.


A word is a word....... and one word can have so many meanings.


*This post is in honour of our estimed Mr Hitcher*

[mstriumph]

I'm with MSTRS on this one - you definately need to mis-spend your adult years - it's sooo much more fun :devil2:

erm... :confused: how can it be MISspent if a good time is being had by all? :innocent:

[mstriumph]

As in - devirginalised

shouldn't that be devirginalized if it's an americanism? :dodge:

[MisterD]

erm... :confused: how can it be MISspent if a good time is being had by all? :innocent:

There we have it folks, a pithy philosophic question to take to the pub with you tonight and mull over a pint or several.:yes:

[Edbear]

erm... :confused: how can it be MISspent if a good time is being had by all? :innocent:


Apparently, the term "Mis." is used by those women, (pronounced "wimmin" by the way), who do not wish to be identified as being either a "Miss" or a "Mrs.". Became the norm for business use, but I always opined that it was most used by "Misses" who thought that "Miss" inferred they were somehow inferior to the Mrs'.

As to a good time, well, if I've been a good boy, I approach my Mrs....:innocent:

Note please, the correct use of the full stop and the apostrophe.:yes:

Now, no-one should be confused...:done:

[jrandom]

Apparently, the term "Mis." is used by those women, (pronounced "wimmin" by the way), who do not wish to be identified as being either a "Miss" or a "Mrs.".

'ello, MISS?

I'm sorry, I have a cold.

[Edbear]

'ello, MISS?

I'm sorry, I have a cold.



Oh. Now as for a "Miss" spent youth, that opens up another whole new thought process...!

Don't you just love the English language?

[McJim]

Don't you just love the English language?

I have been known to enjoy cunning linguistics....

[crashe]

Apparently, the term "Mis." is used by those women, (pronounced "wimmin" by the way), who do not wish to be identified as being either a "Miss" or a "Mrs.". Became the norm for business use, but I always opined that it was most used by "Misses" who thought that "Miss" inferred they were somehow inferior to the Mrs'.

As to a good time, well, if I've been a good boy, I approach my Mrs....:innocent:

Note please, the correct use of the full stop and the apostrophe.:yes:

Now, no-one should be confused...:done:


Yep you are a tad confused.........

It is MS or Ms

[Ixion]

I have been known to enjoy cunning linguistics....

Well, you're a funny fellatio , aren't you.

[Edbear]

Yep you are a tad confused...




LOL!!! My normal state! My mind doen't just wander, sometimes it leaves me completely...:sunny:

I need a holiday!:bye:

[mstriumph]

Apparently, the term "Mis." is used by those women, (pronounced "wimmin" by the way), who do not wish to be identified as being either a "Miss" or a "Mrs.". ..........

actually, you are Mstaken :innocent:

[Hitcher]

*hands a note from my mommy saying I'm special

The BDOTGNZA will only accept a note from your mummy. You're not getting it yet, now are you?

[Hitcher]

Did I learn a thing...... nup not a scareric.

Skerrick. Isn't irony wonderful.

[crashe]

Skerrick. Isn't irony wonderful.


Buggar it.... I had it spelt 'skerrick' and looked at it and thought buggar that ain't right.... :whistle:

[Hitcher]

Buggar it.... I had it spelt 'skerrick' and looked at it and thought buggar that ain't right...

Bugger indeed.

[Laava]

How come flammable and inflammable mean the same thing? My mate Trev always says 'nused' as in 'I nused to say "used" but now I say "nused" ' He also says accriate, as in "It's not accriate to say 'nused'". Funny thing is, his wife now says the same things! She didn't used to. Some people say "Alls you have to do." Alls! Come on! :whocares:

[MSTRS]

If Crashe is confused over a and e, then she best mind her p's and q's:innocent:
Skerrick can be forgiven....tis Gaelic after all.

[apteryx_haasti]

*bats eyelids*

Oh, Mister Hitcher! You're my hero!

[MSTRS]

*bats eyelids*

Oh, Mister Hitcher! You're my hero!

Now see here - case in point of the correct (non)usage of an apostrophe. She is saying that she is batting her eyelids. If an apostrophe was used thusly (bat's eyelids) then that would mean the eyelids belonging to the bat.:devil2:

[apteryx_haasti]

You'll keep, my friend. You'll keep...

[Edbear]

Pedants of the World, unite!:Punk:

This thread is fun. How long may it run?:rockon:

[yungatart]

How come flammable and inflammable mean the same thing? My mate Trev always says 'nused' as in 'I nused to say "used" but now I say "nused" ' He also says accriate, as in "It's not accriate to say 'nused'". Funny thing is, his wife now says the same things! She didn't used to. Some people say "Alls you have to do." Alls! Come on! :whocares:

My step kids used (nused) to say that, too! Never heard aof anyone else though. The funny thing is , their father (Mstrs) was such a stickler for proper and correct pronunciation at all times, but he never noticed it...that, folks, is how I became the "wicked step mother":yes:

[MSTRS]

This thread is fun. How long may it run?:rockon:

Got a ways to go...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=23256

[Shadows]

I too will highlight a gripe of mine, also mis-said by newsreaders, radio jocks and other members of the general population.

A bag of weed does not cost a hundred dollars. You do not use a hundred dollar note to pay for it. It costs one hundred dollars.

Bastards.

From my vast menagerie of pet hates come the phrases "a.m. in the morning", or "p.m. in the afternoon", so often used by our over paid and under educated newsreaders.
There is no such a time that could ever be referred to by using either "p.m. in the morning", or "a.m. in the afternoon", is there?

[Highlander]

From my vast menagerie of pet hates come the phrases "a.m. in the morning", or "p.m. in the afternoon", so often used by our over paid and under educated newsreaders.
There is no such a time that could ever be referred to by using either "p.m. in the morning", or "a.m. in the afternoon", is there?

Add to that ATM machine and baby ducklings!!

[Highlander]

My other major annoyance is the pronounciation of the name of the place I grew up; it is Gisborne, not Gizbin.
Thanks :done:


Nup, 'tis' Gizzy!

Either way THERE IS NO "U" in the spelling there of (and I do mean of, not off)

[Shadows]

Add to that ATM machine and baby ducklings!!

"Personal identification number number"

[scumdog]

"Awyagottado" is one that grates - hear it on a lot of TV ads, mainly aimed at 'young ones'.

[marty]

For those who are confused....

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/

[Phurrball]

"Awyagottado" is one that grates - hear it on a lot of TV ads, mainly aimed at 'young ones'.

Never heard it SD - Unless you mean it as an example of elission in spoken 'New Zilland English'?) At times like this, I am most pleased to NOT own a television at home. That, and I avoided the painful advertising in the run up to Christmas. :Yes:

Oh, and cheers Marty for that link elucidating the use of the most often, and most cruelly abused punctuation mark.

My pet hate is signs in (or for) shops that abuse the said mark. Only a few days ago I was in the Christchurch Harvey Norman, and witnessed (to my horror) a sign directing me to the 'Stereo's'. I was initially most puzzled by what might belong to a stereo - Cables? Speakers? But alas, it was merely the oft sighted 'greengrocer's' apostrophe. The single, most upsetting example of what I speak of is in the New Lynn Warehouse - 'C/D,s'.

Every time I see it I die a little inside.
:gob:

PS - if any of my fellow pedants in this thread haven't yet read 'Eats, shoots and leaves' By Lynne Truss, I suggest you'll enjoy it. I have a copy if anyone wishes to borrow it (but is at home in Waitakere, and I'm in Dunedin, so you'll need to wait).

It could perhaps even be adopted as the official BDOTGNZA copy? [Sadly, my copy is an older edition, and lacks the punctuation repair kit stickers.]

[WRT]

"Personal identification number number"

Or the ASB - www.asbbank.co.nz, banking for people who stutter.

[Skyryder]

From my vast menagerie of pet hates come the phrases "a.m. in the morning", or "p.m. in the afternoon", so often used by our over paid and under educated newsreaders.
There is no such a time that could ever be referred to by using either "p.m. in the morning", or "a.m. in the afternoon", is there?

The abbreviation a.m. stands for "ante meridiem". The abbreviation p.m. stands for "post meridiem".

Before mid day and after mid day. It's one of 'hour' (with a silent h) foibles that after midnight is refered to as the morning as 1 'o'clock in the morning but no one says 11 o'clock in the afternoon.

Skyryder

[rwh]

There is no such a time that could ever be referred to by using either "p.m. in the morning", or "a.m. in the afternoon", is there?

Oh, I initially missed the time bit - I was going to say:

Sure there is:

"I'm not sure if I'll make it on the ride tomorrow; send me a p.m. in the morning"

:dodge:

Richard

[Shadows]

Oh, I initially missed the time bit - I was going to say:

Sure there is:

"I'm not sure if I'll make it on the ride tomorrow; send me a p.m. in the morning"

:dodge:

Richard

LOL very good

[Hitcher]

Spurred on by the blathering utterances of radio announcers, the Brave Defenders now also have their sights set squarely on "mouldy-tasking" and all that may entail, including the inimitable Mouldystrada.

[Motu]

"mouldy-tasking"

This only uffects women....a yeast infection I presume....

[Beemer]

Ha! I had an ex that was a sub-editor...

Well, said ex should have told you the acceptable word was "who" when referring to people...

[Ixion]

Ex-s don't class as people. Ask anyone who's got one.

[McJim]

Well, said ex should have told you the acceptable word was "who" when referring to people...

I need to defend MisterD on this one (even though 'e's a Pome) in this instance he is referring to editorial staff and must be excused. :Pokey:

[Beemer]

I need to defend MisterD on this one (even though 'e's a Pome) in this instance he is referring to editorial staff and must be excused. :Pokey:

Ooh, as one of 'them' (editorial, not an ex), I must take issue with your slur, sir!

[McJim]

Ooh, as one of 'them' (editorial, not an ex), I must take issue with your slur, sir!

Oh come on, how often do editorial staff abuse advertising staff?

We're the ones that bring the money in! :rofl:

[Beemer]

Oh come on, how often do editorial staff abuse advertising staff?

We're the ones that bring the money in! :rofl:

Yes, and they're the ones who can't spell, who talk of 'complimentary' colour schemes, and who decide how big or small the paper is, depending on how much work they've done that week. Abuse advertising staff? Us? Too bloody right!

Glad I freelance now, it means I don't have to deal with advertising staff!

[paturoa]

The BDOTGNZA also wish it noted that a sentence should contain a subject and a minimum of one verb.

Would the word 'no', as a response to a question, be considered a sentence?

[Ixion]

No way. At all. Now or ever. Here or there.

[paturoa]

No?

10 chr

[Biff]

I just keep hearing the word "anal". As in ass.

Language is a evolving thing. Let it be. If the BDOTGNZA were around in Shakepears time I'd still be saying "forsooth" instead of "fuck". Now I don't know about you, but I for one know which one I prefer to yell when I catch my nuts in my zipper.

[Hitcher]

but I for one know which one I prefer to yell when I catch my nuts in my zipper.

Surely "Egads, my nads!" would be a more poetic utterance?

[Swoop]

Add to that ATM machine!!
Also: ASB Bank.

[McJim]

I just keep hearing the word "anal". As in ass.

Language is a evolving thing. Let it be. If the BDOTGNZA were around in Shakepears time I'd still be saying "forsooth" instead of "fuck". Now I don't know about you, but I for one know which one I prefer to yell when I catch my nuts in my zipper.

The word fuck predates forsooth. It came across to the UK when the Saxons invaded. (Before the UK even spoke Danish let alone when Danish became olde english!)

[Skunk]

Also: ASB Bank.
Add CD disc.

[Hitcher]

Also: ASB Bank.

It's a registered trade mark. Same as TSB Bank. And IBM. The letters no longer stand for anything, though they may once have.

[Swoop]

It's a registered trade mark. Same as TSB Bank. And IBM. The letters no longer stand for anything, though they may once have.

The letters still stand for Auckland Savings Bank in my mind, as it does with others...

[Hitcher]

The letters still stand for Auckland Savings Bank in my mind, as it does with others...

Well, you're wrong. Auckland Savings Bank was officially renamed ASB Trust Bank in the 1980s and more recently the word "Trust" was dropped. It is wholly-owned by the Commonwealth Bank of Australia.

[Swoop]

The letters still stand for Auckland Savings Bank in my mind...


Well, you're wrong. Auckland Savings Bank was officially renamed ASB Trust Bank in the 1980s and more recently the word "Trust" was dropped. It is wholly-owned by the Commonwealth Bank of Australia.

You are correct that it has gone through several "rebranding" excercises namewise, but I fail to see how I'm wrong when in my mind I still refer to the "ASB" component of the name.
After having spent quite some considerable time, years ago, banking with Auckland Savings Bank, the name has stuck.

[MSTRS]

Surely "Egads, my nads!" would be a more poetic utterance?

Perhaps that is so...but who is worried about uttering Form 1 rhyming poetry, when one's less-distant extremities are suffering a world of hurt???
FUCK!!! - does for me

[Wolf]

Those dialects are nasty beasties.
Shit yeah, used to scare the bejeezus out of me when I was a kid: all that gliding around the place chanting "EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"

And they've gotten more powerful these days...

[Hitcher]

And they've gotten more powerful these days...

They're still fucked by a decent set of stairs, but.

[MacD]

They're still fucked by a decent set of stairs, but.

You haven't been watching lately, have you!? ;)

[Wolf]

They're still fucked by a decent set of stairs, but.
:Offtopic:
They've been capable of levitation - some sort of antigrav - since the Sylvester McCoy days; the new lot not only have antigrav, the central segment that houses the weapon can now traverse 360 degrees so they're more like a tank than a mobile howitzer.

Then there's short range space flight, time travel capabilities, force fields that vaporise bullets and some really nasty methods of literally extracting information...

Somebody's got a decent Special Effects budget...

[mikey]

Other suggestions for the "Hit List" are welcome.


I will ignore the fact you call yourselves BDOFNZABDJDIFYFHHDS and put something else on the list to go before the pre sub committe to deicde whether or not its merits of my proposal fit in with the associations charta, and are worth being put foward to the sub committe to deicde if it will make this years short list before the one man committee of HITCHER.

I am sick of acronyms.
I dislike the unnecesary, inapproriate, over use of acronyms. I dislike it worse when the retards using them get them wrong (pin number etc) they are a very simplistic device that I fail to see how they can be used so wrongly. Then other people use them, incorrectly.

I propose the banning of any further acronyms. If not through the kiwibiker slutocracy, then through vigilante action. What ever you have to, if it involves tracking someone down and writing all over there car or letter box in acronyms, talking in acronyms, just rid the world of it.

As i first said i will let you lot off for your name which i'd liek to think is a piss take of acronym users, in exhange for letting me off for my hack handed speed typoing filled with errors that my grandfather would roll in his grave if they ever found the body.

[Hitcher]

Mikey, HTFU.

[ynot slow]

The best one I know is my favourite one when people sayWho do I write the cheque for? My reply is Citizens Against Sexual Harassment,you can use the abbreviated form CASH.:yes:

[Virago]

People who use "lol" should be castrated.

Slowly.

With a blunt and rusty knife.

[Hitcher]

People who use "lol" should be castrated.

Slowly.

With a blunt and rusty knife.

In his current mood, Mikey may do this for you.

[xwhatsit]

People who use "lol" should be castrated.

Slowly.

With a blunt and rusty knife.

<hints id="hah_hints"></hints>LOL :lol:

[Hitcher]

Bump.

It's that time of year again folks when the BDOTGNZA licks its wounds and counts its successes for another year, whilst looking hopefully forward to a well spelt and properly punctuated future, devoid of naff Americanisms.

One of the BDOTGNZA's focus areas for 2008 will be the difference between "your" and "you're", as well as the related yet egregious TXT form "ur".

The Brave Defenders would like to thank those who contributed generously to their Cayman Islands account during 2007, and to extend festive wishes to you and yours.

[vifferman]

The Brave Defenders would like to thank those who contributed generously to their Cayman Islands account during 2007, and to extend festive wishes to you and yours.
Amen.
Or summat...

[MSTRS]

One of the BDOTGNZA's focus areas for 2008 will be the difference between "your" and "you're", as well as the related, yet egregious, TXT form "ur".



... or ...



One of the BDOTGNZA's focus areas for 2008 will be the difference between "your" and "you're", as well as the related-yet-egregious TXT form "ur".


Not to mention 'yore' and 'yaw'

[Hitcher]

Not to mention 'yore' and 'yaw'

Indeed. Let's not mention them.

[idb]

Congratulations are in order for your overwhelming success with apotrophe's.






"Albotri! Albotri! Get your albotri here!"
"Do you get wafers with it?"

[Hitcher]

Congratulations are in order for your overwhelming success with apotrophe's.[/SIZE]

It's a "work in progress". The Brave Defenders Enforcement & Compliance Group is buoyed by recent moves in the USA to sanction the practise of water-boarding.

[007XX]

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...

:dodge:

[Joni]

Indeed. Let's not mention them.For today, and just today... I will stop giving you shit about you and your spelling/punctuation/grammar obsession.

Yay! Go the BDOTGNZA

Tomorrow is another day... I will resume my battle against you then!

;) :hug: <== smiley just for you Hitch, because I know you hate them.

[Pixie]

that's what happens when you bang your head too much.
My mother always told me I'd just go blind..

One shouldn't bang one's head.It can result in buck teeth,assuming one is flexible enough to perform the act.

[Pixie]

Here's my rant:
Oafs on TV and elsewhere that create words, such as,"undoutably","heighth"
and extend phases like must've into "must of",when they speak or write them.

[Bass]

Starting with:

'A' is for 'orses.
.
.
'E' for brick
.
.
'O' for the wings of a dove.....isn't it?

Y for Gawd's sake?

[Pixie]

And, on the subject of newsreaders and their kaiwai twangs, last week I heard that an imminent person's group had been set up for some worthy purpose; not to mention the new Ear New Zealand Cup; or the Evers-Swindell sisters who regularly compete in the women's pears. It's enough to make one want to involve the Pleece, or one's sekitry.

...or one's vunrability

[Pixie]

No, he meant Asshole..noun: a subterranean storage facility for pit ponies, donkeys, mules and other beasts of burden..hole for an ass.

Pit ponies aren't of the ass group.

I also object to the tossers that say "jackarse",wtf is that?

[Pixie]

I dont get this? Hitcher are you a teacher?? :dodge:

Heck, im in my second year of my teaching degree... your looking at an emerging teacher that barely spells better than the primary children I am planning to teach!

meh, should be a laugh I suppose :done:

And here is the crux of the problem!

[Ocean1]

One that's always puzzled me is "commentator"

*Puzzle puzzle puzzle*

[jrandom]

One that's always puzzled me is "commentator"

Why, that would be one who commentates (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commentate), of course.

A lemon entry, my dear Watson.

Since the late 18th century, commentate has been used transitively with the meaning “to annotate” and, since the mid 19th, intransitively with the meaning “to make explanatory or critical comments.” These uses are now rare. Recently, commentate has developed the additional transitive sense “to deliver a commentary on” and the intransitive sense “to serve as a commentator.” These uses are occasionally criticized as journalistic jargon.

[jrandom]

Indeed. 'Gotten' is an archaic form. The BDOTGNZA should stop picking nits off the hairs they're splitting and concentrate on degeneration, not resurrection.

*shuffles in, dons anorak*

Look, it's something I posted exactly one year ago today.

*shuffles out again*

[Pixie]

Release the hounds, Smithers!

the ones with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?

[Ocean1]

Why, that would be one who commentates (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commentate), of course.

A lemon entry, my dear Watson.

Of course, how obtuse of me. Not simply one who comments at all atall.


These uses are occasionally criticized as journalistic jargon.

[jrandom]

the ones with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?

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