Where is Jayden?

[Hitcher]

Given that New Zealand is a small place, I find it difficult to believe that somebody somewhere doesn't know where Jayden Headley and his grandfather are in hiding. It may also be worthwhile reminding people that there is a significant reward for information on offer here -- from memory at least $20,000, courtesy of Radio Live (www.radiolive.co.nz).

Maybe Kiwi Biker can help track Jayden down...

Jayden's Father Makes Another Appeal

NewsRoom.co.nz Agency Story at 2:37 pm, 08 Jan 2007

The father of six-year-old Jayden Headley, who was kidnapped five months ago, has made a plea for more to be done to find his son.

Jayden was abducted from Hamilton Public Library in August and is believed to be in hiding with his maternal grandfather Dick Headley.

His father Chris Jones has criticised police for a lack of progress in finding Jayden, saying he believes no police officer is actively working on the case at the moment.

Mr Jones has also called on the Headley family to realise the serious mistake they have made in becoming involved in Jayden's abduction.

He says if they have an ounce of decency, they will contact police so Jayden can be returned home.

(c) NewsRoom 2007

[yungatart]

I suspect that many people know where Jayden is.
I feel for that poor kid, talk about being torn between pillar and post!
I hope he is found soon, allowed to settle down and put down some roots, and get on with the business of being a little kid.

[Coyote]

So sounds like the parents split and the son has his mother's last name? Kinda had me confused for a second

Unless I'm ignorantly confused, sounds like mum's side of the family is keeping hold of him away from the father

[Hitcher]

Unless I'm ignorantly confused, sounds like mum's side of the family is keeping hold of him away from the father

You have it in one, albeit in breach of a Court custody ruling in favour of his father. Mum is currently rotting in jail for contempt of Court.

[Ghost Lemur]

I feel for the guy. I know what it was like when my ex showed up with some goons, scared off the baby-sitter and snatched the boys.

Thankfully in that case some of her relatives were able to talk sense into her enough to get the boys back. Nothing in my life terrified me as much as getting the call from the babysitter while I was at the lawyers, racing home to find an empty house.

[Flyingpony]

No idea of location but judging by the background of pictures seen, they're living somewhere more rural. Looks like they're on the Coast but doubt they would have risked crossing on the Interisland ferry.

[NighthawkNZ]

Try asking at http://www.oldfriends.co.nz/... it widens the search pattern.

Also privite detectives can work wonders. They seem to be good at tracking people down...

How old is he?
Do they have a photo? So people know who they are looking for. I could pass some one the street the police are looking for and never know.

[Maha]

His father Chris Jones has criticised police for a lack of progress in finding Jayden, saying he believes no police officer is actively working on the case at the moment.


Ever wonder why the police dont give a rats are in some case's?....
We...the public, are not privy to all the facts leading up to his disappearance.
There are two sides to every coin.....(cliche' i know) but i feel there's more to than what we know so far. Chris Jones looks shady to me.....:yes:

[Lou Girardin]

Ever wonder why the police dont give a rats are in some case's?....
We...the public, are not privy to all the facts leading up to his disappearance.
There are two sides to every coin.....(cliche' i know) but i feel there's more to than what we know so far. Chris Jones looks shady to me.....:yes:

Are his eyes too close together?

[Maha]

Are his eyes too close together?

Yeah, and they cant stay fixed on the camera or reporter.....:angry:
Another two minutes in the womb and he would have been born a downey...:shutup:
I, for one, just dont trust him......my thoughts on the matter....:done:

[Hitcher]

Here's a photo of Jayden Headley.

[Hitcher]

Here's a photo of his grandfather, Dick Headley.

[pervert]

Hahahahaha Dick Headley...excellent name...:laugh:

[Kornholio]

Hahahahaha Dick Headley...excellent name...:laugh:

Lol was thinking the same thing when I heard it on the radio....not a good scene but he musta flakked some shit over that one :D

[Joni]

Children are children and will always quetion things...

I wonder what creative "stories" are being told to him when he asks where his dad is... I hope that they are not screwing with his little mind too much, so that when his life does retrun to normal, he can adjust in an fairly easy manner.... and not be completely screwed up.

:(

[Hitcher]

Ever wonder why the police dont give a rats are in some case's?....
We...the public, are not privy to all the facts leading up to his disappearance.
There are two sides to every coin.....(cliche' i know) but i feel there's more to than what we know so far. Chris Jones looks shady to me...

We know enough to know that the Court has found in favour of Jayden's dad in terms of legal custody -- it is unusual for a Court not to award custody to the mother. We know that Jayden's mum is in jail for contempt of Court. It can't be healthy for a kid to be in hiding with a 63-year-old man. Whatever people may think of the proximity of people's eyes, I am sure that did not sway the Court.

[Lissa]

As far as I am concerned the mother and esp the grandfather are putting themselves ahead of the child... I cant think of a worse thing then for that poor kid to be hiding, god knows what the grandfather is telling him about his father... brainwashing him. They cant hide forever.. lets hope it doesnt turn out bad for the child.... the grandfather could be desperate to do anything.

[mstriumph]

.......... Chris Jones looks shady to me.....:yes:

he may or may not be ............. but being in the public eye is intensely distressing for some people - makes 'em act dodgier than they otherwise would...

............ and the courts have ruled he's a better bet for raising Jayden than the mother [so there must be SERIOUS probs with her -- as that's a verdict you don't get often?]

the 'victim' in all this is the child

- funny how often THAT's the case

do your best to find him, peoples!

[Colapop]

Jayden is probably being sheltered by the Mongrel Mob. He'd fit right in with their kids - red banana, no shoes, out til all hours - cher!

[jrandom]

They cant hide forever.. lets hope it doesnt turn out bad for the child.... the grandfather could be desperate to do anything.

Indeed. Let's hope the kid doesn't get too screwed up.

Ah well.

If he ends up psychotic, at least he'll be at home in a world full of children from non-traditional families.

"Hi. My name's Jayden... Really? You had two mummies? Luxury. My grandfather kidnapped me and raised me in a paper bag in a septic tank."

[ManDownUnder]

This whole thing really rarks me up to be honest. The father must be worried sick and the kid might be too. Hopefully he's ok.

Whoever is hiding the kid needs to be put on notice - the longer it takes to get him back to his dad, the longer the sentence will be... if the little man is hurt in anyway it's a "throw away the key" sentence.

Fuck them. The stakes are too high and the innocents are paying.

Edit - as for Mum... solitary for her for a bit please... just till the boy shows up, and then she can go back into general circulation. Sentence adjusted per the rationale above of course...

[crashe]

ok my gut feeling on this......... I dont like the daddy.

There are two sides to every story....... we are not being told the whole story.

As to the father getting custody....... the old story: MONEY TALKS.
Yep the daddy has money and got a good lawyer onto it.
He could bullshit any lies that he wanted to.... it does happen.
Im not saying that this happened in this case....... but it has happened.
Breakups can get very nasty.


Why wont the mother say anything, cos she is protecting her son....... I bet she has been bashed inside and still not talking. Why cos there are two sides to every story.

Grandad is protecting his grandson..... for a reason.

As to where they are hiding out....... could be anywhere in the back of beyond in the bush....... many people can live out there for years on end and never surface.


Let the real truth come out as to what really happened and the reason why they are protecting this little boy.
Keep money out of the courts and let the truth be known.

[Hitcher]

This isn't a popularity contest -- "Parent Idol" -- where members of the public get to determine which parent should have primary responsibility for Jayden's care and upbringing. The relative proximity of dad's eyes or the blonde-slapperness of mum's hair aren't the issue. The Court has made a decision and people are not only choosing to subvert that determination but also to mess with the life of an "innocent" party -- Jayden.

There are many people who know where Jayden is. Maybe there should be more of them serving prison time with his mum.

[Lissa]

Although I agree there are two sides to every story when it comes to break ups... both sides see things their own way... and think they are in the right. I havent really been following the story very closely but the child should come first. If his dad has custody... surely the courts wouldnt have granted it if he wasnt capable? All this has done is damaged everything in his life. He prob loves his grandad alot... but hes going to go to jail for a while for kidnapping (if they find him), his mum is in jail, what kind of kid can deal with that?

[ManDownUnder]

ok my gut feeling on this......... I dont like the daddy.

There are two sides to every story....... we are not being told the whole story.

As to the father getting custody....... the old story: MONEY TALKS.
Yep the daddy has money and got a good lawyer onto it.
He could bullshit any lies that he wanted to.... it does happen.
Im not saying that this happened in this case....... but it has happened.
Breakups can get very nasty.


Why wont the mother say anything, cos she is protecting her son....... I bet she has been bashed inside and still not talking. Why cos there are two sides to every story.

Grandad is protecting his grandson..... for a reason.

As to where they are hiding out....... could be anywhere in the back of beyond in the bush....... many people can live out there for years on end and never surface.


Let the real truth come out as to what really happened and the reason why they are protecting this little boy.
Keep money out of the courts and let the truth be known.

Whoa - hold up a bit...

How many facts are on hand?

We know Jayden was taken from the library
We know the court is satisfied the mother had something to do with it
We know the court awarded the father custody of Jayden.
Courts give custody of a child to the mother in the vast majority of cases

We do not know
Where Jayden is
Why Jayden is being hidden (Protection? Selfish interests?)
The father won the case through a monetary assault on the judicial system
Why the mother is keeping quiet about Jayden's location

As you say - let the facts be known... but only if it's in the best interests of those immediately involved.

Let's get the little man safe and back into society. Will it ever be in his best interests to keep him out of the scholing system? To deny him access to both parents, or indeed to either parent.

[Joni]

I agree 100% with MDU, sticking to the facts is a better idea than going on gut, epecially if you dont know the people involved.... hopefully all the facts come to the surface soon :yes:

[Maha]

MONEY TALKS.
Yep the daddy has money and got a good lawyer onto it.



And hes to feckin tight to offer up a reward, better off to hand it over to said Lawyer, cos like he needs it.....
Offer up $10-20K.....someone will take it....
Failing that.....could always Google Search him....:yes:
Has anyone thought that Jayden is happy where he is?.....just a thought??
I have no idea but, im sure Grandad loves him.....

[Hitcher]

Jesus wept. I can't believe you people. No wonder New Zealand has one of the world's highest instances of child abuse and domestic violence. Everybody becomes obsessed with speculating about peripheral issues and doesn't focus on the matter at hand. Doesn't anybody accept that there has been a crime committed here? Or what?

[ManDownUnder]

Doesn't anybody accept that there has been a crime committed here? Or what?

Familial? yes
Developmental? Yes
Legal? Yes
Societal? Yes

This shit really gets up my nose. So - what to actualy do? How can we make a difference here?

[jrandom]

Doesn't anybody accept that there has been a crime committed here?

I do.

I am currently weeping along with Jesus, if that makes you feel any better.

For what it's worth, though, the general response confirms my long-held opinion that most people are pretty... stupid.

Which is fine by me; it lets me float to the top.

To wax metaphorical, I am lipidous faecal matter in the freshly cleaned toilet bowl of life.

Hear me roar.

[Squeak the Rat]

I can't help but feel that public outrage would be higher if the kid was taken from the mother, not the other way around.

Men are evil, so it's just as well he's not with the dad.

Let's just hope Grandad isn't responsible for Mum's mental health.

[ManDownUnder]

I can't help but feel that public outrage would be higher if the kid was taken from the mother, not the other way around.

Pure speculation ... but I can see where you're coming from... and find it hard to disagree.

[riffer]

Doesn't anybody accept that there has been a crime committed here? Or what?

I've kept my mouth shut on this up until now.

I'm an ex-victim of the Family Court system and an ex who lied and lied and lied in order to get what she wanted. Many a time I wanted to take the kids and tell her to fuck off. But thanks to the support of members on this site (they know who they are) I didn't. And now my ex and I are trying to heal the relationship after all this, and it ain't easy.

It doesn't surprise me to hear comments like those from Crashe. I faced many of them myself. But the thing is, the family court system is very skewed towards the maternal parent. If the father was awarded custody he would have had to prove there was a problem with Jayden being in danger.

The chances of a father getting custody in this country are not good.

Dick Headley has committed a crime. And if Cindy Kiro and her like manage to overturn this country's family court law then they will set a precedent the likes of which this country have never seen. See how many kids are kidnapped then.

I for one am fucking sick of people immediately assuming there's something wrong with the father. :angry:

[Maha]

There are many people who know where Jayden is.

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?
If anything like this happened to either of my two girls i would be more proactive in finding them, offering up money to the 'many people' you speak of seems a no brainer really, instead of tugging at the heart strings of NZer's by looking sad on tv.....just my opinion

[Hitcher]

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?

His mother knows where Jayden is. So does his grandfather, Dick. So does the woman who spirited him away from Hamilton library. Other members of the Headley family will know too. And there will be people in Northland (where the Police believe Jayden is being held hostage) who also know the location of the crime scene. Northland is too small a place for this not to be the case.

[yungatart]

If something like this happened to one of my kids I would do whatever it took to get them back...whether I could afford it or not!
The family court is definitely skewed towards the mother in NZ, it seems to me, judging by comments made on here, that many members of the public are too.
A child's safety, emotional well being, right to stability, education etc etc is at risk here.. this boy is only 6. His rights have been violated!
People know where he is, no matter there thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the situation, they need to start talking!

[Maha]

Theres no way i agree with what is happening Hitcher, just seems a little too one sided for me. Yes a crime has been committed, and the criminal is serving time. I stand by my feelings on the matter........:done:

[ManDownUnder]

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?
If anything like this happened to either of my two girls i would be more proactive in finding them, offering up money to the 'many people' you speak of seems a no brainer really, instead of tugging at the heart strings of NZer's by looking sad on tv.....just my opinion

The monetary offer is on the table - click the link in my sig. Actually have a rumage. I'm not sure how much is fact or fiction, but it's interesting reading

[Maha]

The monetary offer is on the table - click the link in my sig. Actually have a rumage. I'm not sure how much is fact or fiction, but it's interesting reading


Thanks for that Nigel....someone out there can do with 20k im sure, give it days and and he will be in police hands....:yes:

[Mom]

This issue has been on my mind for a while, so for what it is worth here goes my input,

There is a little boy somewhere in NZ being cared for by someone that loves him, and by virtue of that love is denying him the love of his extended family, school, friends. I know that may be conjecture in parts but i can hardly see Jayden being allowed to play outdoors with his mates.

This little fella has a Grandfather who is facing criminal charges, a mother in prison and a father who rightly or wrongly (remember the court has made this decision, and we dont know the facts, and are unlikely to) has been granted custody and is desperate to get his son home.

I have read the opinions here (all valid and with merit) but this poor little boy should be living "normally" not hidden away. Whether he is being "brainwashed" by his Grandfather or even, heaven help him once he gets home, being given a whole new set of truths by his father, the most important thing is to get this lad back where he can be monitored.

In my experience ( I fostered children for many years) I have never seen a case of smoke without fire, one side of the family desperate to keep the boy away from his father, and a court system giving him custody, there is obviously a hell of a lot more to this story than we will probably ever know, lets just hope that common sense prevails soonest, that or the $20K being offered does the trick.

Sorry for the long post :sunny:

[Her_C4]

There is a little boy somewhere in NZ being cared for by someone that loves him, and by virtue of that love is denying him the love of his extended family, school, friends. Can't deny that


the most important thing is to get this lad back where he can be monitored. Absolutely


In my experience ( I fostered children for many years) I have never seen a case of smoke without fire, Me too


there is obviously a hell of a lot more to this story than we will probably ever know, lets just hope that common sense prevails soonest, that or the $20K being offered does the trick :rockon:

[ManDownUnder]

I've kept my mouth shut on this up until now.

rest of post snipped out for expediency - I'd simply be quoting it all bit by bit and saying the same thing.


There's so much in here to respect I won't go through it blow by blow. QDOS from me mate... and good luck for future days.

[Crazy Steve]

Here's a photo of Jayden Headley.


In Cambridge yesterday..

Crazy Steve..

[terbang]

You have it in one, albeit in breach of a Court custody ruling in favour of his father. Mum is currently rotting in jail for contempt of Court.

She sure is and willingly too. There must have been some serious trouble with the boy's father for her to do that. Like the parole board, the court is not always right.

[Squeak the Rat]

Or she is not right in the head. The court isn't always wrong.....

[terbang]

Or she is not right in the head. The court isn't always wrong.....

She is clearly not alone in this (apart from the going to jail bit) so they are either all nutters or there is more to this story.

[Crazy Steve]

I'm sure they are living just down the road...

Ive seen the boy and that Man...At the shops at Lemington..

Crazy Steve.

[Mom]

I'm sure they are living just down the road...

Ive seen the boy and that Man...At the shops at Lemington..

Crazy Steve.

Take a little stroll down to your local cop shop friend and tell them, thats all you have to do

[Crazy Steve]

Take a little stroll down to your local cop shop friend and tell them, thats all you have to do

I have outstandig warrants..

Don't wanna get locked up my self...:)

Crazy Steve..

Anyway I hate COPS

[riffer]

The website link posted earlier has a form where you can anonymously send details of sightings.

Another thing I've noticed in some earlier posts is people saying that they wouldn't just sit around like the father is doing.

The thing is, as anyone who's been through Family Court knows, you just can't go off your rocker. The father is doing the right thing at the moment. Going off the deep end can cause big problems when you get to discuss custody again. Best to keep your mouth shut and let the "authorities" deal with it, unfortunately, despite how you personally feel. I hope all of you people never have to face family court.

It sucks, but the alternative is to lose the custody battle ..

[MisterD]

ok my gut feeling on this......... I dont like the daddy.

There are two sides to every story....... we are not being told the whole story.

As to the father getting custody....... the old story: MONEY TALKS.
Yep the daddy has money and got a good lawyer onto it.
Let the real truth come out as to what really happened and the reason why they are protecting this little boy.
Keep money out of the courts and let the truth be known.

According to Michael Laws (http://content.mediaworks.co.nz/radio/radiolive/Laws/Lawsskelton_061120.mp3), the reason the father was given sole custody was that the mother has at every step failed to comply with previous court orders regarding access arrangements, she even skipped off to Australia at one point.

She's had somewhere in the high teens of different lawyers herself, because this means they get to start the whole thing from scratch every time.

Basically Chris Jones was given custody as the judge saw it was the only way to ensure he had any access to Jayden.

[Crazy Steve]

The website link posted earlier has a form where you can anonymously send details of sightings.

Sightings....Sorry you must have me all wrong....

I KNOW WERE THEY ARE LIVING!!!

Crazy Steve..

Have left message at Radio Live..:yes:

[Hitcher]

I hope you're a hero, Steve.

[Squeak the Rat]

Given that New Zealand is a small place, I find it difficult to believe that somebody somewhere doesn't know where Jayden Headley and his grandfather are in hiding. It may also be worthwhile reminding people that there is a significant reward for information on offer here -- from memory at least $20,000, courtesy of Radio Live (www.radiolive.co.nz).

He's been handed back the day ol' mum is due back in court......

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10420465

[Hitcher]

Jayden Headley Comes Out Of Hiding

NewsRoom.co.nz Agency Story at 11:01 am, 23 Jan 2007

A six-year-old Hamilton boy and his grandfather who have been missing for five months have come out of hiding.

Jayden Headley and his grandfather, Dick Headley, presented themselves at the Hamilton police station this morning.

Mr Headley has been arrested and charged with kidnapping and will appear in court this afternoon.

Today's depositions hearing for the boy's mother, Kay Skelton, who has also been charged with kidnapping, has been adjourned.

She has been in jail since October for refusing to reveal her son's whereabouts.

She wept in court this morning as she was told that her son and father had now turned up.

Her custody will be reviewed in the High Court this afternoon.

(c) NewsRoom 2007

[Joni]

Yeah I read about this too...

Keep us updated Hitch, Im quite interested in what happens moving forward.

[yungatart]

I'm glad that he has been handed over to the police. I hope that he is not too emotionally scarred by his ordeal and can now get on with the serious business of being a normal little boy.

[ManDownUnder]

Jayden Headley and his grandfather, Dick Headley, presented themselves at the Hamilton police station this morning.


ABOUT FUCKEN TIME TOO. Shit this riles me. Play games with the law, no worries... lock yourself up for being a silly bitch - no worries... but fucking around with the lives and relationship of a father and son (or any parent and child) is just beyond me.

That grandfather will be lucky to get out of this uninjured I reckon. I'm not condoning violence at all but the gravity of this is huge.

Fuck 'im. If Grandad did what I think he's done I hope he gets jail time too

[Hitcher]

It should be noted that Jayden's "mum" is in jail for Contempt of Court for refusing to supply details of his whereabouts, and her continued detention at Her Majesty's Pleasure is entirely in the hands of the Judge who imprisoned her.

[MrMelon]

Leave her in jail for a while...

[SwanTiger]

So Crazy Steve, was it them living down the end of your road?