Hamilton Wednesday night ride

[samwp]

Where: Caltex on Whatawhata Road

When: 5.30 pm every Wednesday

Ride: somewhere into countryside

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1117&day=2007-1-17&

map - http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Sam-s-Wednesday-Night-Ride

exact route to be debated on the day/night

[carver]

this aint going to be another slow nana ride like usual is it?
cause if it is, count me in

[Big Chim]

watch it out there, just been for a fang from there to whatawhata and back to hams and just saw 5 cops

[deeknow]

watch it out there, just been for a fang from there to whatawhata and back to hams and just saw 5 cops

Watch out for the friggin rain more like it, I've almost dried out after a soaking on Kahikatea Drive on the way home from work. A regular Wednesday evening ride is a spiffing idea, see you next week ( it its dry that is :sunny: )

[Big Chim]

Yeah a regular ride on the wednesday sound rad

[TerminalAddict]

Yeah a regular ride on the wednesday sound rad
tooted at you as I drove past, when you were outside supercheap auto ;)

I went and hung out with warr for the night :D

[hamie1]

Mate when I'm back in Hamilton count me in... stuck in Katikati at the moment!

[Waylander]

Mate when I'm back in Hamilton count me in... stuck in Katikati at the moment!
What the hell would take you there? Nothing there to speak of really, unless you have family there.

[littleswettie_2006]

I'll be there just got to do some work on my bike then it will be running sweet. Where is the ride?

[deeknow]

Where: BP on the south end of Victoria St where Ulster joins it

actually that would be the North end of Victoria st... better bring your compass Sayam :yes:

[Warr]

Where: BP on the south end of Victoria St where Ulster joins it

When: 6:30 every Wednesday

Ride: somewhere into countryside
Just a comment re the meeting place... It has the dissadvantage of being in the middle of town and a V slow set of lights to get out west.
Could you consider something out Dinsdale way and there is good riding West, South & North from Whatawhata road.
Oh and I live out there !!:whistle:

Else I hope I can make it this week and the weather is kind too.

[RC1]

Just a comment re the meeting place..
Could you consider something out Dinsdale way and there is good riding West, South & North from Whatawhata road.


maybe at G.A.S on whatawhata rd :yes:

[TerminalAddict]

mmm I might know where that is :shifty:

[samwp]

Just a comment re the meeting place... It has the dissadvantage of being in the middle of town and a V slow set of lights to get out west.
Could you consider something out Dinsdale way and there is good riding West, South & North from Whatawhata road.
Oh and I live out there !!:whistle:

Else I hope I can make it this week and the weather is kind too.

I really want something vaguely centralish and I'm a BP whore :D but other suggestions are appreciated.

[Warr]

Whats the go for tomorrow ? .. Will it make a difference you not having your licence Sayam5 ?

[samwp]

Whats the go for tomorrow ? .. Will it make a difference you not having your licence Sayam5 ?

There we go location updated :D

Yea I will be unavailable for this ride for oh I dunno 5 and a half ffreaking months!

Feel free to suggest changes/routes etc, I will be happy to update the first post, not like I'll have any thing else to do anyway :crybaby:

[ZeroIndex]

ok, suprisingly, I've only just found this thread now... Keen to join in on this ride if it's happening... will wonder down to the Caltex just before 6:30. Hope to see some people there.

Ps. Don't ask me to provide the route...

Forcast: Wednesday
Max: 25°C Min: 17°C
(Day) (Overnight)
Mostly cloudy, some drizzle. Westerly breeze.

Hopefully this 'drizzle' doesn't affect whatever roads we're riding on. I'll TXT Flux and see if he wants to meet up at the Caltex too.

Catch you peeps later

[deeknow]

Yay for the Caltex !!! ... I can literally coast down the hill from home to the forecourt without even starting. :yes:

[Warr]

Location all good. Tonight I am working late and could be up for dinner out for a friends birthday later, So may miss out on the riding....... :(

[TerminalAddict]

I won't be in tonight.

I have to play "courier boy" and deliver some stuff to Dorkland tonight

[ZeroIndex]

well, I'll still be there if the road is dry.. hope to see someone there...

[ZeroIndex]

Bump about tonight... is anyone coming? If it's dry I'll be at Caltex at 6:30

[Meekey_Mouse]

Aww, I'd love to go but my bike still isn't running 100% and I'm packing :bye:

I might be able to make it next week... not sure though.

Keep it shiny side up guys/gals and have a great ride :):scooter:

[Waylander]

Aww, I'd love to go but my bike still isn't running 100% and I'm packing :bye:

I might be able to make it next week... not sure though.

Keep it shiny side up guys/gals and have a great ride :):scooter:
Damn you're keen. Kiwifruit been training you on showing up for rides from far off towns? lol

Hopefully you're not as much a sissy as he is by not riding in the rain lol.

[ZeroIndex]

OK, well, it's 5:55pm, and although there isn't any sun, there isn't any rain either, which is always a good thing. Gonna roll down to the Caltex shortly and hang about aimlessly till I get bored or someone else arrives... :)

[shaneh]

I live in Raglan and am a bit of a soft cock and so aren't too keen on riding back over the divi late at night.
Is there any interest is running these rides at 5:15 pm ?
Might not suit those who have to travel from afar or those who want to eat a proper meal first. But hey it works for me, leave work at 5:00 pm, arrive at Caltex at 5:10 pm. Ride for 2 hours, then head home. Still home by 8 ish.
Other peoples thoughts ?

[Waylander]

Other peoples thoughts ?

practice night riding?

[deeknow]

ZeroIndex and I braved the elements tonight and headed over Whatawhata bridge, down thru Te Pahu, Pirongia, south to Te Kawa road then east as far as the main Otoronga drag.

Were gonna carry on at that point to Wharepapa but the skies were grim and the visors were swinging from drizzle-coated on the outside to misted-up on the inside, so we headed back to Dinsdale via some Paterangi and Ngahinepouri back-roads.

Despite the grim conditions it was actually a nice relaxed 125km rural amble. Cheers Zero, see the rest of yaz next week.

[hamie1]

Now I'm back in Hamilton (Fcuk Katikati -sorry mum and dad) I'll be there next week. Did go for a ride tonight though, throught the back of.. oh I don't know... where they play banjos and have six fingers... off out towards Raglan then out towards Huntly (back roads) back up Sate Highway 1 and back along River Road towards home. Some dude in a Ford overtook me at 130+ km/h (let him for fun) then he watched as I overtook him at 80km/h as he looked at the back of a truck. A ride of about 1hr, good fun (minus the rain). Then home for some cold beers.... shit life is good. Hope to catch up next week.

[ZeroIndex]

ZeroIndex and I braved the elements tonight and headed over Whatawhata bridge, down thru Te Pahu, Pirongia, south to Te Kawa road then east as far as the main Otoronga drag.

Were gonna carry on at that point to Wharepapa but the skies were grim and the visors were swinging from drizzle-coated on the outside to misted-up on the inside, so we headed back to Dinsdale via some Paterangi and Ngahinepouri back-roads.

Despite the grim conditions it was actually a nice relaxed 125km rural amble. Cheers Zero, see the rest of yaz next week.

Yeah, thanks for the ride... haven't been on most of those roads before :) hopefully next time it's sunny with no rain :yes:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Damn you're keen. Kiwifruit been training you on showing up for rides from far off towns? lol

Hopefully you're not as much a sissy as he is by not riding in the rain lol.

Haha, Hamilton is only like an hr and a half from here!

Apparently he DOES ride in the rain!... I have proof that says other wise :dodge:

Must admit though, I'm not a big fan of riding in the rain

[Waylander]

Haha, Hamilton is only like an hr and a half from here!

Apparently he DOES ride in the rain!... I have proof that says other wise :dodge:

Must admit though, I'm not a big fan of riding in the rain
When you comming this way then? Could use someone to keep me company at the back.

[samwp]

Some dude in a Ford overtook me at 130+ km/h (let him for fun) then he watched as I overtook him at 80km/h as he looked at the back of a truck. . . . . Hope to catch up next week.

He shure showed you! I'm missing biking already but it will be good to come back to a good regular weekly ride, in winter? bah!



Is there any interest is running these rides at 5:15 pm ?
Other peoples thoughts ?

Well? How about 6pm? theres no point in changing the time if it puts everyone else out though.

I was thinking about an irregular bi-and-a-half-monthly sunday ride from 10ish or something but that idea was rudely interrupted, might work for those who prefere to see more road.

[deeknow]

6pm's good for me

[ZeroIndex]

6pm's good for me

same here... :) that's if I get a job that finishes before then though :p

[hamie1]

All on for tomorrow?
6pm?
Who's in and where we meeting, going?

[ZeroIndex]

All on for tomorrow?
6pm?
Who's in and where we meeting, going?

I start my new job tomorrow, but should be finished by 5pm, which means I'll make it at 6pm... Caltex Dinsdale is actually a really good meeting place as quite a few KB members live really close by..... (like Pathos, Deeknow, and me) wonder if Pathos will come along this time....

Where we go is decided on the day, but if it was anything like last wednesday, it'll be good :)

[ZeroIndex]

just checked the weather report, and tomorrow is a funny sign :) .....i mean sunny and fine

[Warr]

6pm .. will see where I am .....

[Switch]

Well since i am gona head down to hamilton (i used to live there for 4 or so years, im still considered a local) for the hell of it, i might join you on the ride. If things work out well, then i will. But if things change then i wont be able to join yas sorry.
:done:

[Meekey_Mouse]

When you comming this way then? Could use someone to keep me company at the back.

Haha, you would be at the front wouldn't you? I'm usually at the front through twisties and back for the straights though :yes:


I was thinking about an irregular bi-and-a-half-monthly sunday ride from 10ish or something but that idea was rudely interrupted, might work for those who prefere to see more road.

If that was to happen I would try and go as often as I could and it would be better for me then Wednesday nights :) dunno about every one else though?

Jas

[hamie1]

With no license you have far to much time on your hands sayam5. Just as well! I'm up for any ride (bike) now I'm back in Hamilton. Wednesday's are a nice break from work and a bigger ride every now and then is a great idea too.

[samwp]

Wow! All the interest is great, I will change the time to 6pm to avoid confusion.

Feel free to debate/discuss other details and I will update as necessary.

Meekey_Mouse: I will organimise that Sunday ride when I get back on the road.


I'll do a review on my new wheels soon :D

[RC1]

where on whatawhata rd is the caltex dont know that area very well??

[TerminalAddict]

1 km up from the round about in dinsdale (maybe even less)

[RC1]

1 km up from the round about in dinsdale (maybe even less)
wuold that be heading towards raglan way?

[TerminalAddict]

yeah man .. up the road next door to liquor land / liquor king / liquor something

[Waylander]

Haha, you would be at the front wouldn't you?

With these looneys? Always.


I'm usually at the front through twisties and back for the straights though :yes:
Can tell you know from seeing how much you improved just from one track day (and knowing you have done a few more since) you'de have no trouble leaving the other 250s behind totally.

[ZeroIndex]

where on whatawhata rd is the caltex dont know that area very well??

From the dinsdale roundabout heading on Whatawhata Road (towards Raglan, before the 100km zone), you'll see it on the right (corner of Whatawhata and Caernarvon Rd)

[samwp]

where on whatawhata rd is the caltex dont know that area very well??

1st post updated with map - http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/...day-Night-Ride

[ZeroIndex]

Damn that was a good ride.. Glad there weren't any bins :)

After the ride, me, Carver, Flux, and that guy on the naked VFR400 (can't remember his name) went to the Friday night Carpark to play around while it was still light... came across littlesweetie who was also messing around there.

To cut a long story short, I finally got my knee down :D :D :D So Happy

[TerminalAddict]

you guys disappeared from mirrors pretty quick south of ngaruawahia, must've turned of and headed to hamilton I guess

how many got stung by the speed camera ?? :D

[hamie1]

Not me...Bright red van on the side of the road and the flashing lights of nice cage drivers was enough I hope to give me a chance to slow down.
Thanks for the ride guys even the cross-country bit. Can't wait till next week
So glad I've got a licence!

[Switch]

That was a bloody good ride, Being my first ride back in MY HOME TOWN, (not ZeroIndex's) i had a good time. Cheers for the ride guys, I'll have to go on the Auckland Thursday Night Rides now :yes:
Was nice meeting you all, hope ya had a good ride as well.
:rockon:

[TerminalAddict]

So glad I've got a licence!

sucks to be sam :nya:

[carver]

Not me...Bright red van on the side of the road and the flashing lights of nice cage drivers was enough I hope to give me a chance to slow down.
Thanks for the ride guys even the cross-country bit. Can't wait till next week
So glad I've got a licence!

i went past it at 160+ on the way to catch you guys..no flash-head on though..
must be my stealthy GS!
matt-nice skills on the cruiser, i was impressed!
who was in front of me on te kowhai?they was going for it, but me being 2up and stuck behind a car made it harder to catch you!

[TerminalAddict]

who was in front of me on te kowhai?they was going for it, but me being 2up and stuck behind a car made it harder to catch you!
may have been me mate.
I was infront of the group when I left Ngaruawahia

[carver]

may have been me mate.
I was infront of the group when I left Ngaruawahia

i thought it was a n00b on a 250! not far wrong :gob:

[Waylander]

i went past it at 160+ on the way to catch you guys..no flash-head on though..
must be my stealthy GS!
matt-nice skills on the cruiser, i was impressed!
who was in front of me on te kowhai?they was going for it, but me being 2up and stuck behind a car made it harder to catch you!
Probably cause the camera points out the back where it would be in perfect spot to grab your number plate.

If you see the flash then nothing to worry about.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hey all :) hope the rides have been going well!

Are all these rides on the calendar? If not is it possible for some one to PM me when a ride is going to happen? I usually don't have time to be on the comp much any more... so trying to scroll through to find out when a ride is takes a bit of time.

Jas

[TerminalAddict]

every wednesday at 6pm mate

[ZeroIndex]

i went past it at 160+ on the way to catch you guys..no flash-head on though..
must be my stealthy GS!
matt-nice skills on the cruiser, i was impressed!
who was in front of me on te kowhai?they was going for it, but me being 2up and stuck behind a car made it harder to catch you!

that was n00blet Jeremy (the one that binned at the carpark on Friday) He sure was going for it... I didn't have a damn chance

[Switch]

matt-nice skills on the cruiser, i was impressed!


Cheers mate :D i had a great time

[ZeroIndex]

Cheers mate :D i had a great time

Yeah, was good to have an out-of-towner-ish person on the ride... indeed, good skills... I'd be too chicken to get round some of those corners on a cruiser, so you have my congratulations...

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hmm... If the weather is fine I might try make it up this week :sunny:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Oh uhmm... where does the ride start from and aprx. how long do the rides usually take?

[Switch]

I'l be free in 2 weeks time on a wednesday ;) might come down for another ride

[TerminalAddict]

Oh uhmm... where does the ride start from and aprx. how long do the rides usually take?

starts from caltex on whatawhata road, just west of dinsdale road about

last a couple of hours maybe .. .done by 8 - 8:30

[Meekey_Mouse]

starts from caltex on whatawhata road, just west of dinsdale road about

last a couple of hours maybe .. .done by 8 - 8:30

Cool, thanks! Smaps are printed, Come on sunshine!!! :sunny:

[RC1]

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=hamilton

[TerminalAddict]

should we postpne for a thursday night ride?

[samwp]

Yea I got a little lightning thing on forecastfox.

Postponed till Thursday if weathers shit/turning that way at lunch, will update 1st post to confirm.

Unless everyones keen for a ride in the rain? seriously it ain't that bad.


Comments/Suggestions/Abuse?

[ZeroIndex]

Yea I got a little lightning thing on forecastfox.

Postponed till Thursday if weathers shit/turning that way at lunch, will update 1st post to confirm.

Unless everyones keen for a ride in the rain? seriously it ain't that bad.


Comments/Suggestions/Abuse?

I'd probably pick abuse, but I'm too busy having fun at work :p

[Meekey_Mouse]

Yea I got a little lightning thing on forecastfox.

Postponed till Thursday if weathers shit/turning that way at lunch, will update 1st post to confirm.

Unless everyones keen for a ride in the rain? seriously it ain't that bad.


Comments/Suggestions/Abuse?

Hey,

I won't be coming up tonight if it's on... my bike is still playin up. I've got new carbs coming hopefully tomorrow :woohoo:

Any chance of another weekend ride happening sometime?

Jas

[Warr]

Hi Jas, The Wed ride is hopefully a regular, as is the Friday night outing out TeRapa. (There is a thread around for it somewhere!!)

Hey,

I won't be coming up tonight if it's on... my bike is still playin up. I've got new carbs coming hopefully tomorrow :woohoo:

Any chance of another weekend ride happening sometime?

Jas

[TerminalAddict]

and the weekend is looking OARSOME :D

I'm gonna try and get a leave pass for sunday

Won't be in tonight ... have car/first day at school/ etc etc etc

[Warr]

I have just volenteered!!! not to do a job out TeRapa at 6.30. May take the bike if its looking fine and go 4 a fang afterwards. If anyone is planning on an outing let me know and can meet up even if its at the end 4 a :drinkup:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hi Jas, The Wed ride is hopefully a regular, as is the Friday night outing out TeRapa. (There is a thread around for it somewhere!!)

Haha yeah, but seein as school is back it means youth group is back, and that's on Wednesday nights :(

So from now on I'll usually only be able to go on weekends, I'll be able to make it every now and then though :D

Jas

[Warr]

Wont be there tonight,.. if its actually happening ??
Have a job at 4.30 in Taupo which I need to pick up some gear from Tauranga. Looking like an outing on the bike for me and a nice round trip in all :)

[TerminalAddict]

PTA meeting at 7pm for me

[ZeroIndex]

Do we sell Kirbys? YES WE SELL THE KIRBYS!!!

Yeyaaaa! sold my 4th Kirby today :D

[deveus_1]

Damn that was a good ride.. Glad there weren't any bins :)

After the ride, me, Carver, Flux, and that guy on the naked VFR400 (can't remember his name) went to the Friday night Carpark to play around while it was still light... came across littlesweetie who was also messing around there.

To cut a long story short, I finally got my knee down :D :D :D So Happy

hey guys stefans my name .. well went 4 ride tonight as in 14th just got rolled by the police breath test on wainarrio road !! just a quick grand fine
No reg,No wof, Not obtaining proper licence, list goes on !! F*#* fag's but hey he let me ride home so can't complain!!

[deveus_1]

Damn that was a good ride.. Glad there weren't any bins :)

After the ride, me, Carver, Flux, and that guy on the naked VFR400 (can't remember his name) went to the Friday night Carpark to play around while it was still light... came across littlesweetie who was also messing around there.

To cut a long story short, I finally got my knee down :D :D :D So Happy

hey guys stefans my name .. well went 4 ride tonight as in 14th just got rolled by the police breath test on wainarrio road !! just a quick grand fine
No reg,No wof, Not obtaining proper licence, list goes on !! F*#* fag's but hey he let me ride home so can't complain!!

[ZeroIndex]

hey guys stefans my name .. well went 4 ride tonight as in 14th just got rolled by the police breath test on wainarrio road !! just a quick grand fine
No reg,No wof, Not obtaining proper licence, list goes on !! F*#* fag's but hey he let me ride home so can't complain!!

damn that sucks dude...

[Warr]

Wooo Not good there deveus_1 Was he out there stalking you do you think ??
Better lay off that route for a Wednesday or 2 :(

[Warr]

hey guys stefans my name .. well went 4 ride tonight as in 14th just got rolled by the police breath test on wainarrio road !! just a quick grand fine
No reg,No wof, Not obtaining proper licence, list goes on !! F*#* fag's but hey he let me ride home so can't complain!!
So it was a blow in the bag stop, not for speeding ??

[TerminalAddict]

I think they would still hear 10 bike roaring up, all doing between 10k rpm and 18k rpm :)

[idleidolidyll]

READ THIS: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44235

a bunch of motorcyclists seem to have ripped of a restaraunt giving us all a bad name.

i'm offering my $20 to pay the bill, any other takers please go to that thread and offer what you can.

[ZeroIndex]

READ THIS: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44235

a bunch of motorcyclists seem to have ripped of a restaraunt giving us all a bad name.

i'm offering my $20 to pay the bill, any other takers please go to that thread and offer what you can.

Hang on hang on, are you saying that if you were a blue-eyed blond German, that everytime you came across a Jew, you'd apologize for Hitler, World War 2, and the concentration camps? If I want to give my money away, I'll do it freely, as opposed to being pressured into it. Please don't cross-thread items like this into the Wednesday Night Rides, especially considering the 'event' happened in South Island, and the bikers rode Hondas...

Much appreciated,
Rob

[idleidolidyll]

Hang on hang on, are you saying that if you were a blue-eyed blond German, that everytime you came across a Jew, you'd apologize for Hitler, World War 2, and the concentration camps? If I want to give my money away, I'll do it freely, as opposed to being pressured into it. Please don't cross-thread items like this into the Wednesday Night Rides, especially considering the 'event' happened in South Island, and the bikers rode Hondas...

Much appreciated,
Rob

i'm not pressuring anyone, i'm requesting big hearted people to help.

if we fall short I'll pay the balance

this affects us all as motorcyclists in NZ and it's likely that regardless that it happened in Franz Joseph, the riders are likely from various parts of the country

the link to this thread was merely to make you aware, after that it's all your choice and the only shame is on those who walked out on the bill

[deeknow]

just got rolled by the police breath test on wainarrio road !! just a quick grand fine

Ouch !!! .. that'll learn ya ... or not. I've only ever come across the old-bill
once on that road, can't imagine its a regular patrol route, guess you get
the odd pissed egit leaving the hot-pools tho.

[deeknow]

Any1 keen to head out on Wed night, usual place and time I guess? servo on Whatawhata rd at 6-ish?

[TerminalAddict]

I'm thinking of riding in tomorrow :)

[FzerozeroT]

I'll be keen if the weather picks up a bit

[FzerozeroT]

Meh, too much to do at home.

[shaneh]

The Hyobag needs an outing, so I'll be complete with fliptop head.

[FzerozeroT]

sorry kids, what I should have said was "I WILL be home by 8 o'clock", hope me leaving the group didn't upset anyone elses ride

[deeknow]

sorry kids, what I should have said was "I WILL be home by 8 o'clock"

Ahhh.. so that explains your disapearing into the distance act :Punk: ... as I pulled up to the valley turn-off I looked around and no sight of you, figuired you must have missed the turn-off so me and the other-Matt carried on towards Morrinsville, no sign of you there neither.. so we carried on back to the Tron via Kuranui rd. Actually bumped into the others in Dinsdale on the way home so it seems everyone is accounted for.

Nice little ride, jeeze that Buckland road section was in good nick, can get a bit scratchy at times

[TerminalAddict]

nice wee moment from shaneh :)

was a slow plod for me, but enjoyed watching the mono's in the mirror :)

Thanks for the drink deeknow, will return the favour someday :)

[deeknow]

Ahhh... so that's how you do it F00T .. you are the "devils spawn"
(see attached image)

[Warr]

Who is out tonight ??
Same Bat time 6pm at Caltex

[TerminalAddict]

not me :(
got the car .. .and running about after kids I believe

[deeknow]

sorry, I cannae make it either, went out for one last night, through Te Miro etc, that road's in good nick at the moment

[TerminalAddict]

warr and ghost rider called in for a cup of tea :)

[Warr]

Who's for an outing tomorrow night?

[ZeroIndex]

Who's for an outing tomorrow night?

would love to, but I'm working...

[deeknow]

yep I'm keen, we might have to start heading off @ 5:30 soon, and when does bloody daylight savings start?

[Warr]

yep I'm keen, we might have to start heading off @ 5:30 soon, and when does bloody daylight savings start?
5.30 start this week guys (and girls) ??

[Meekey_Mouse]

5.30 start this week guys (and girls) ??

Haha, I'm still tryin to make it up to one of these rides :yes:... Some day :love:

Sorry if I've asked this before, can't be bothered going through all the pages, roughly how long does the ride go for?

Might be able to make it now it's 5:30... possibly, may be... hopefully

[Warr]

Haha, I'm still tryin to make it up to one of these rides :yes:... Some day :love:

Sorry if I've asked this before, can't be bothered going through all the pages, roughly how long does the ride go for?

Might be able to make it now it's 5:30... possibly, may be... hopefully
Couple of hours usually. If you were on the scene we could head southwards to assist your travels homeward. Unless you are looking for somewhere to stay :)

[TerminalAddict]

yep to 5:30

[terrygurl]

Aw sweet to ride.. but can't this week. got appointment to keep. Have fun

[deeknow]

foive tirty it is den

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hey guys, thanks but I won't be able to make it today :bye: A friend is down from Auckland.

Lol, may be I'll just turn up some time :Punk:

[deeknow]

Bugger, I've got a 5:00 appointment in town tonight, wont take long so I may turn up, but I may not make it in time. Have a good one if I dont see ya in Dinsdale.

[TerminalAddict]

it was dark :shit:

[Waylander]

it was dark :shit:
That happens sometimes. If you stayed up later than 6 more often you'de know that.:innocent:

[TerminalAddict]

That happens sometimes. If you stayed up later than 6 more often you'de know that.:innocent:


I see you took your funny pill today.

lots of bling worthiness post from you :first:

[terrygurl]

So did any go on the ride tonight?

[TerminalAddict]

me, warr, road rash .. you should come along .. its good fun.

[terrygurl]

yup i'm keen to.. shame cldn't tonite... nice bike pic btw ;)

[Waylander]

Here's a thought, me and another from over here are gonna be heading over the kaimais and back before hitting the pub.

Some of you braver souls might consider meeting us at the top.

[Warr]

Here's a thought, me and another from over here are gonna be heading over the kaimais and back before hitting the pub.

Some of you braver souls might consider meeting us at the top.
Thanks for the heads up. Nice looking night for it too but have other plans

[Waylander]

Thanks for the heads up. Nice looking night for it too but have other plans
Meh, I still had a good run. My new tyres work very well.

[Roj]

How fast do you normally travel on the run? my old bike is a bit slower than the new bikes, must be old age cathcing up with it (or me)

[TerminalAddict]

very slow .... warr rides a vintage vfr750 .. .and he's hugely slow :dodge:

[Waylander]

very slow .... warr rides a vintage vfr750 .. .and he's hugely slow :dodge:
:gob::rolleyes::lol::killingme:killingme

[samwp]

Hey

Glad to see the ride is still surviving, here are the updated details:

Blah Waikato - Hamilton Wednesday night ride
Where: Caltex on Whatawhata Road

When: 5.30 pm every Wednesday

Ride: somewhere into countryside

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/ca...day=2007-1-17&

map - http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/...day-Night-Ride

exact route to be debated on the day/night

[ZeroIndex]

Hey

Glad to see the ride is still surviving, here are the updated details:

Blah Waikato - Hamilton Wednesday night ride
Where: Caltex on Whatawhata Road

When: 5.30 pm every Wednesday

Ride: somewhere into countryside

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/ca...day=2007-1-17&

map - http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/...day-Night-Ride

exact route to be debated on the day/night

last nights ride was awesome... 4pm till 7pm, 200km, up Mt. Pirongia, then to Kawhia, then back :)

[TerminalAddict]

probability of rain this arvo 90% :cry:

I brought the car today .. so I'm not in tonight

[Roj]

very slow .... warr rides a vintage vfr750 .. .and he's hugely slow :dodge:

Hell thats a young bike....:scooter:

[hedgier1]

Just a reminder guys and gals

[2 wheel madness]

couldnt make it last week, weather looks like crap this week so might c ya next week:bye:

[Warr]

Waikato Classic m/cycle Swap Meet on this Sunday 1st at Claudelands Showgrounds

[Warr]

Who is on for an outing tonight ?

[Meekey_Mouse]

Seeing as how this is probly the last week with my bike... count me in :Punk:

I'll try be there at 5:30, but I'll be leaving pilates at 4pm... and tryin 2 find the petrol station :shutup: Could you guys wait till like 5:40?

[ZeroIndex]

I'm keen for this evening :) should be fun :D Meeting is at 5:30 at the Caltex on Whatawhata Rd right?

[The Flux Capacita]

you'll see me there:D uni can kiss my ass HAHAHA man i've said that alot since i started...the whole going to aussie for 2 weeks of uni and all:S oh well i'll do my assignment all night tonight if i have to..which i will HAHA see ya there

[Lauza]

Count me in <---- mattmacaskill

[Switch]

Count me in <---- mattmacaskill

Correction. Count ME in

[Waylander]

Count me in <---- mattmacaskill


Correction. Count ME inIs this your imaginary girlfriend mate? lol

[smoky]

Seeing as how this is probly the last week with my bike... count me in

Why - are you selling it or something?

[Warr]

Just back after a 150k outing. Twisty bits in the dark arent everyones cup of tea.
Good to see you Jaz, are you a lost cause for the road ?? now that track riding apears tobe in the horizon.
So good outing for those that didnt leave any bits on the roadside :shutup:

[TerminalAddict]

leave nothing but footprints

unless you're *insert name here* .. then leave half your bike :killingme

[Warr]

You home already Jaz, good going. We went up to Kihikihi, regroup then onto McD's at TA then all went our seperate ways :)

[Meekey_Mouse]

Why - are you selling it or something?

Yip


Just back after a 150k outing. Twisty bits in the dark arent everyones cup of tea.
Good to see you Jaz, are you a lost cause for the road ?? now that track riding apears tobe in the horizon.
So good outing for those that didnt leave any bits on the roadside :shutup:

Haha, hey! It's basically not my bike so I'm takin it easy.... didn't want it to uhmm... end up in a dirt wall :innocent: :dodge:

Thanks for waiting for me guys... sorry I was SO late :mellow: and slow :whistle:

Had a good time though :yes: Hope the person who had the tango with dirt ( we all know who it was) get's their bike sorted :yes: :clap:

[The Flux Capacita]

hey thanx for the support guys...hmmm yes well mabey i should have kicked the bike into the dirt so it didn't end up like it was on the road and just let my leather do the work but never mind...i rang state insurance and made my claim...will ride whats left of the poor girl to waikato yamaha and see where it goes from there...if they say it's a write off i mite ask for a quote without fairning damage and then get them to fix it and it shal become a steet fighter for even slower more cautious riding but still look ok

seeing as my name is the flux capacita i mite as well put some more lights on it should it end up a naked bike:(

anyways prior to that it was a good ride

[ZeroIndex]

hey thanx for the support guys...hmmm yes well mabey i should have kicked the bike into the dirt so it didn't end up like it was on the road and just let my leather do the work but never mind...i rang state insurance and made my claim...will ride whats left of the poor girl to waikato yamaha and see where it goes from there...if they say it's a write off i mite ask for a quote without fairning damage and then get them to fix it and it shal become a steet fighter for even slower more cautious riding but still look ok

seeing as my name is the flux capacita i mite as well put some more lights on it should it end up a naked bike:(

anyways prior to that it was a good ride

yeah, hope you manage to sort your bike out soon... Was a fun ride, especially when I managed to get the front of the bike off the ground properly, instead of my horribly attempted strains on my clutch... haha who saw the ford telstar down that bank just outside of ohaupo?

[The Flux Capacita]

hey if i make my bike naked i could get a bigger rear sprocket and just practise wheelies and stuff at slow speeds haha that way i won't go to fast and crash but i'll still have my imaginary large penis same as jono

[Switch]

Was a good ride, had a few iffie moments, but then i had a chance to settle down...Hope you sort all your stuff out Bruce, and hopefully they dont write it off. Was nice meeting you Meekey Mouse, all the best with your track bike.
Cheers for the ride guys,
Cya next Wednesday ;)

[carver]

hey if i make my bike naked i could get a bigger rear sprocket and just practise wheelies and stuff at slow speeds haha that way i won't go to fast and crash but i'll still have my imaginary large penis same as jono

come on bruce, you know the more hard n fast riding you do-the bigger it gets.
yours is just small..

[Teflon]

sucks to hear about the crash. Were you boys trying to keep up with Warr?? ( i gave long time ago)

[Warr]

sucks to hear about the crash. Were you boys trying to keep up with Warr?? ( i gave long time ago)
You will have to get something bigger than the CT... And I remember getting a ticket following something yellow!!

[Teflon]

You will have to get something bigger than the CT... And I remember getting a ticket following something yellow!!
yeah that was a interesting day.. i blame the red one, peer pressure..

[ZeroIndex]

yeah that was a interesting day.. i blame the red one, peer pressure..

OMG... a CT, have you learnt to do wheel stands yet? what happened to the beautiful TL1000?

[carver]

OMG... a CT, have you learnt to do wheel stands yet? what happened to the beautiful TL1000?

yea...speaking of the ct 90, did you hear about my new ZX14?

[Bnonn]

Hey chaps, forgive me but I didn't read the whole thread. Are you guys still doing these rides? I met Carver and I presume ZeroIndex outside Domino's the other day and it would be good to meet up and ride with some people. But before I say I'm in it would be good to know what sort of riding you guys do. On a scale from slow and relaxed, through fast and aggressive, to Rossi, what sort of riding style should I expect? I'm not hugely skilled or experienced and I don't know the roads so well so I don't want to be left behind (:

[ZeroIndex]

Hey chaps, forgive me but I didn't read the whole thread. Are you guys still doing these rides? I met Carver and I presume ZeroIndex outside Domino's the other day and it would be good to meet up and ride with some people. But before I say I'm in it would be good to know what sort of riding you guys do. On a scale from slow and relaxed, through fast and aggressive, to Rossi, what sort of riding style should I expect? I'm not hugely skilled or experienced and I don't know the roads so well so I don't want to be left behind (:

Welcome to the site Bnonn... don't exactly remember stopping at Domino's the other night... I remember stopping in at the Te Awamutu BK Lounge (Burger King), but it was a long day...

The rides still do happen, and they're somewhere paced anywhere from slow and relaxed to averagely fast and mildly aggressive... We always wait for people, so that no-one is left behind. Hope to see you at Caltex Dinsdale this Wednesday night (5:30pm)

[Bnonn]

Yeah, might not have been you...I dunno. Anyway, see you then (:

[Bnonn]

So I thought to myself, "Self," I thought, "today is a beautiful day, and since I am planning to go riding on Wednesday with a bunch of people whose riding styles and route I don't know, why not prepare by taking that route in advance?"

Marvelous. I contacted my friend Jamie, with whom I often ride (and who will be coming on Wednesday as well), and off we went. We started out at about 1.45 pm yesterday (Easter Monday). All was good; we were setting a brisk but fairly relaxed pace through the Whatawhata twistes; we turned off at the right road to head over to Huntly, and we got to Huntly in good time. We stopped at KFC for a bite to eat, and discussed our different cornering methods. I like to lean off the bike more than Jamie does, and so I tend to need a less acute lean angle and thus don't scrape my boot like he does. Also my tires are stock Dunlop tourers and...well, they kinda suck for aggressive leaning.

Then it was back on the road, taking the back way to Ngaruawahia. I followed Jamie and he turned off right, and we were back into rural twisties. All was good for a while; I was thinking that this was a great route, although it would be a bit terrifying come dusk. There were some nice straights followed by good series of turns, varying from WOT to NTB (nail the brakes). We encountered a couple of cars, but not many, and we were able to pass them soon enough in a couple of the short clear straights.

Then we turned a bend and WOAH, WTF! The tar seal disappears abruptly into a metal road with fist-sized jagged stones sticking out of it. Jamie just keeps on going (he learned to ride a bike on the farm), so I circumspectly follow him, taking it a bit slower than he is, having never ridden off-road much, and hating my time on gravel. After a couple of hair-raising kilometres the road clears up and returns to the normal crappy tar seal, about the quality of which I am now nonetheless grumbling a lot less. At this stage, I'm thinking in my naive mind that I'm going to have to ask those Kiwi Biker folks what the big idea is with gravel, coz that shit ain't no fun in the dark. But we keep on going, and get to a turn-off, which Jamie takes, and I trustingly follow.

About 50 km down another road which shows no sign of ending, I'm starting to wonder whether we're going on exactly the route we had planned. Eventually, we get to a long down-hill straight, followed by another up-hill one, with a gas station (closed) and a school sitting in the dip. Pukekawa School, the sign says. Jamie pulls off into the gas station parking lot.

So about that time I'm thinking to myself, "Wait a minute..." I pull up next to Jamie and yell through my visor, "Where the fuck are we?!" He just shrugs and laughs a bit nervously. "I have no idea," he admits.

Well, obviously we're in Pukekawa. But where the hell is that? I have some signal on my phone, thankfully, so I try calling my wife to get her to look it up on zoomin or motowhere. No answer. K, what about my parents? My sister answers and says she can't find it on the map. She's looking on the Hamilton map. No, that is not going to work! She has no other map, so she says she'll look online and I must call her back in five minutes (they're on dialup).

A couple of minutes pass, and she calls me back (obviously impatient or something). She's like, the only reference to Pukekawa I can find is related to Mercer. She's a bit vague; I don't think she knows how to use a map (like most women, eh). But that gives us something. We decide to keep going; we still have a half tank of gas each, and the road has to go somewhere! I ask her to call my wife and let her know we're going to be late, and I apologize to my parents as well because we're due at their place for dinner at 6, which I doubt we'll make.

A couple of kays further on, Jamie pulls over and says he saw a turn-off that said Mercer 9 km. So we turn around and take the turn-off, and soon enough we find ourselves in Mercer. We cross the bridge, but instead of turning right onto the motorway (sign-posted and all!) Jamie keeps going, thinking the road sweeps around left onto an on-ramp. No Jamie, no it doesn't. It sweeps around left onto a gravel incline! We kinda skid and grind to a shaky stop and carefully turn around and get onto the on-ramp...and let me say, why is there gravel on the on-ramp?! It's a sweeping curve, and you're opening the throttle to get up to motorway speed, and there's gravel on it? So as you're leaning into the curve with the acceleration going down, yay, gravel! That's a wonderful idea! Sweep the damn ramp, people!

Anyway, we ride uneventfully to the Gordonton turn-off, the route to which even we can't cock up, and Jamie takes the turn-off. Fair enough, since there is a lot of traffic on SH1 and it's going slower than a dog with bricks tied to its head. We take the Gordonton road until eventually Jamie takes a turn-off marked Cambridge. Now, you'd think I'd have lost all faith in the guy at this point; he knows I have to be home soon, and my fuel gauge shows one bar left. But I follow him. We get to another turn-off to Cambridge, and I pull up and yell "what the hell!?" at him, but he just makes some unintelligible reply which is muffled by my earplugs, and takes off at a ridiculous pace. I assume he knows the road and the amount of enforcement it sees, so I follow him briskly, and we trundle along at 140 or so for a few kays (the cars are keeping up too!) Eventually we get to a sign marked to Hamilton, which he takes (thank heaven!) I'm not sure if the route he chose was really any quicker than just following Gordonton Road, but it probably wasn't much different.

I recognize this road, at least; it's the back way in/out of Morrinsville, through Silverdale. He lives in Silverdale, so I wave him off at Carrington Ave and keep going to Glenview, breaking a few speed limits in the process (my back hurts, I'm in a hurry, and I've been driving at high speed for several hours, so I'm not really inclined toward the idea of city speeds). I pick up my wife, bundle her onto the back of the bike, and head back to Silverdale/Hillcrest where my parents live, getting there at 5.45 and with 4.2 km showing on the reserve tripmeter. I am very tired!

But, today all is well. No lasting pain or bruises or stiffness, which is good. The FZ6 is very comfortable to ride long distance, all told. I was curious this morning to see where the hell we actually went, as compared to where we should have gone, so I created a map on motowhere.com. This is the route we were meant to take (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Sam-s-Wednesday-Night-Ride), and this is the route we did take (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Bnonn-s-failed-attempt-to-follow-Sam-s-Wednesday-Night-Ride-rout) (at least, as close as I can remember given that I wasn't paying very good attention to the road signs). It says 216 km, but my odomoter tells me that between filling up in Hillcrest, and filling up again in Hillcrest (Caltex and Mobil by New World respectively), I did 280 km. As opposed to the 99 km + city travel we had intended.

So, I still don't know the route we're taking on Wednesday—but I can definitely tell you all what route we should not take!

[ZeroIndex]

So I thought to myself, "Self," I thought, "today is a beautiful day, and since I am planning to go riding on Wednesday with a bunch of people whose riding styles and route I don't know, why not prepare by taking that route in advance?"

Marvelous. I contacted my friend Jamie, with whom I often ride (and who will be coming on Wednesday as well), and off we went. We started out at about 1.45 pm yesterday (Easter Monday). All was good; we were setting a brisk but fairly relaxed pace through the Whatawhata twistes; we turned off at the right road to head over to Huntly, and we got to Huntly in good time. We stopped at KFC for a bite to eat, and discussed our different cornering methods. I like to lean off the bike more than Jamie does, and so I tend to need a less acute lean angle and thus don't scrape my boot like he does. Also my tires are stock Dunlop tourers and...well, they kinda suck for aggressive leaning.

Then it was back on the road, taking the back way to Ngaruawahia. I followed Jamie and he turned off right, and we were back into rural twisties. All was good for a while; I was thinking that this was a great route, although it would be a bit terrifying come dusk. There were some nice straights followed by good series of turns, varying from WOT to NTB (nail the brakes). We encountered a couple of cars, but not many, and we were able to pass them soon enough in a couple of the short clear straights.

Then we turned a bend and WOAH, WTF! The tar seal disappears abruptly into a metal road with fist-sized jagged stones sticking out of it. Jamie just keeps on going (he learned to ride a bike on the farm), so I circumspectly follow him, taking it a bit slower than he is, having never ridden off-road much, and hating my time on gravel. After a couple of hair-raising kilometres the road clears up and returns to the normal crappy tar seal, about the quality of which I am now nonetheless grumbling a lot less. At this stage, I'm thinking in my naive mind that I'm going to have to ask those Kiwi Biker folks what the big idea is with gravel, coz that shit ain't no fun in the dark. But we keep on going, and get to a turn-off, which Jamie takes, and I trustingly follow.

About 50 km down another road which shows no sign of ending, I'm starting to wonder whether we're going on exactly the route we had planned. Eventually, we get to a long down-hill straight, followed by another up-hill one, with a gas station (closed) and a school sitting in the dip. Pukekawa School, the sign says. Jamie pulls off into the gas station parking lot.

So about that time I'm thinking to myself, "Wait a minute..." I pull up next to Jamie and yell through my visor, "Where the fuck are we?!" He just shrugs and laughs a bit nervously. "I have no idea," he admits.

Well, obviously we're in Pukekawa. But where the hell is that? I have some signal on my phone, thankfully, so I try calling my wife to get her to look it up on zoomin or motowhere. No answer. K, what about my parents? My sister answers and says she can't find it on the map. She's looking on the Hamilton map. No, that is not going to work! She has no other map, so she says she'll look online and I must call her back in five minutes (they're on dialup).

A couple of minutes pass, and she calls me back (obviously impatient or something). She's like, the only reference to Pukekawa I can find is related to Mercer. She's a bit vague; I don't think she knows how to use a map (like most women, eh). But that gives us something. We decide to keep going; we still have a half tank of gas each, and the road has to go somewhere! I ask her to call my wife and let her know we're going to be late, and I apologize to my parents as well because we're due at their place for dinner at 6, which I doubt we'll make.

A couple of kays further on, Jamie pulls over and says he saw a turn-off that said Mercer 9 km. So we turn around and take the turn-off, and soon enough we find ourselves in Mercer. We cross the bridge, but instead of turning right onto the motorway (sign-posted and all!) Jamie keeps going, thinking the road sweeps around left onto an on-ramp. No Jamie, no it doesn't. It sweeps around left onto a gravel incline! We kinda skid and grind to a shaky stop and carefully turn around and get onto the on-ramp...and let me say, why is there gravel on the on-ramp?! It's a sweeping curve, and you're opening the throttle to get up to motorway speed, and there's gravel on it? So as you're leaning into the curve with the acceleration going down, yay, gravel! That's a wonderful idea! Sweep the damn ramp, people!

Anyway, we ride uneventfully to the Gordonton turn-off, the route to which even we can't cock up, and Jamie takes the turn-off. Fair enough, since there is a lot of traffic on SH1 and it's going slower than a dog with bricks tied to its head. We take the Gordonton road until eventually Jamie takes a turn-off marked Cambridge. Now, you'd think I'd have lost all faith in the guy at this point; he knows I have to be home soon, and my fuel gauge shows one bar left. But I follow him. We get to another turn-off to Cambridge, and I pull up and yell "what the hell!?" at him, but he just makes some unintelligible reply which is muffled by my earplugs, and takes off at a ridiculous pace. I assume he knows the road and the amount of enforcement it sees, so I follow him briskly, and we trundle along at 140 or so for a few kays (the cars are keeping up too!) Eventually we get to a sign marked to Hamilton, which he takes (thank heaven!) I'm not sure if the route he chose was really any quicker than just following Gordonton Road, but it probably wasn't much different.

I recognize this road, at least; it's the back way in/out of Morrinsville, through Silverdale. He lives in Silverdale, so I wave him off at Carrington Ave and keep going to Glenview, breaking a few speed limits in the process (my back hurts, I'm in a hurry, and I've been driving at high speed for several hours, so I'm not really inclined toward the idea of city speeds). I pick up my wife, bundle her onto the back of the bike, and head back to Silverdale/Hillcrest where my parents live, getting there at 5.45 and with 4.2 km showing on the reserve tripmeter. I am very tired!

But, today all is well. No lasting pain or bruises or stiffness, which is good. The FZ6 is very comfortable to ride long distance, all told. I was curious this morning to see where the hell we actually went, as compared to where we should have gone, so I created a map on motowhere.com. This is the route we were meant to take (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Sam-s-Wednesday-Night-Ride), and this is the route we did take (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Bnonn-s-failed-attempt-to-follow-Sam-s-Wednesday-Night-Ride-rout) (at least, as close as I can remember given that I wasn't paying very good attention to the road signs). It says 216 km, but my odomoter tells me that between filling up in Hillcrest, and filling up again in Hillcrest (Caltex and Mobil by New World respectively), I did 280 km. As opposed to the 99 km + city travel we had intended.

So, I still don't know the route we're taking on Wednesday—but I can definitely tell you all what route we should not take!
haha, legendry effort dude... we actually did the ride yesterday... but yeah, we'll be out again in force tomorrow as far as i'm aware...

[Bnonn]

Kewl. How is that ride come dusk? I'd think I'd be setting a rather more stoic pace on those roads than I was in daylight.

[TerminalAddict]

awesome mate .. .good write-up :yes:

the route changes every week ... meet at caltex dinsdale and discuss

[ZeroIndex]

who's on for tonight... there is rumoured drizzle happening, but screw it, as long as it's not a blizzard, i should be there

[Switch]

I'll be out tonight :yes:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hope you guys had a good ride! :rockon:

I got no bike! :shit: :bye: :Punk:

[TerminalAddict]

less crashes than last week :yes:
couple of new faces (Mr black hornet, and Bnonn )

so got the track bike lined up? or in shopping mode? (oh dear ... a woman in shopping mode :no: )

[Warr]

Twas a good outing. K place by the C, ~170k's getting up there for an evening outing.
And yes good to see new faces, shame the F&Chip shop was shut. Have to consider our destinations more closely where we can find a feed. My rear tyre was moving around a bit too much under breaking. I think all the sticky bit has gone.
Appologies to anyone who though my passing moves were a bit ragged. My excuse is they prob were :shit:
That was on our return & it took a few corners to get back into the grove :)

[FzerozeroT]

I don't know what happened, I stopped to change my visor, got lost in that "shortcut" to templeview, had to cruise at 105 to Pirongia because I was being followed by what looked like a mufti cop. asked some of the locals if they had seen a group of bikes go past, "No" so I turned around and went home. What a sad bastard.

[Warr]

I don't know what happened, I stopped to change my visor, got lost in that "shortcut" to templeview, had to cruise at 105 to Pirongia because I was being followed by what looked like a mufti cop. asked some of the locals if they had seen a group of bikes go past, "No" so I turned around and went home. What a sad bastard.
Big thanks for playing decoy :innocent: Shame about the other :second: we were wondering what happened and you would have been sweet for gas as the place you pass near Oparau was open. Someone else dropped out as they were getting cold too. So dress for the occasion guys tis getting cooler new :)

[Bnonn]

Yeah, Ben dropped out as well. Hopefully he'll be warmly dressed next week (:

Thanks for a great ride guys. Sorry I was slow in the twisties on the way to Kawhia. In the spirit of sharing knowledge, let me quickly report what I learned:

Having never ridden twisties in the dark before, and having not really thought about it beforehand, I found the darkness rather confounding. As it got darker, I could see less and less far ahead through the corners, and so without realizing it I was focusing my attention closer and closer in front of me, so as to have something to look at. Obviously, once it got completely dark, the only thing I could see was what was in my own headlight beam. This caused me to unconsciously fixate on a point maybe ten metres directly in front of me, and even when I was going through really tight bends, this was what I was looking at.

Needless to say that this sort of unconscious target fixation dramatically reduces your ability to ride a corner. As I think Matt pointed out, I nearly went off the road one time because of it. Got fixated on the shoulder and so...you go where you look. Because I was initially very uncomfortable riding the bends in the dark, I didn't take advantage of the guys in front of me lighting the way, and so they disappeared into the night. However, my wee brain was churning away as I rode, pondering what it was that was giving me so much grief, and wondering whether everyone else knew the road really well, just had balls of steel, or if they were way more skilled than me.

In the end I decided it was mostly the latter with bits of the former thrown in, and realized I was target fixating, after which I found myself going quite a bit faster. It takes some getting used to looking through a corner you can't actually see, though, so I was still really circumspect and took things nice and slow so as to get used to it. Hence I rocked up a good while after the rest of you fullahs. It's really hard riding by guessing, rather than by reference points. Hopefully I'll improve and not slow you guys up in future (:

On the way back I just made sure to keep someone in front of me, so that I had a reference point through the bends. Matt set a good pace on his Aquila, and as long as I could see his tail light I knew where the bend went and could take it just fine; and the headlights obviously helped too. Truth be told, it is a bit nerve-wracking riding close to reserve on roads you don't know, in the dark, where you can't see the surface or much anything else. But having said that, it was a really enjoyable ride, so thanks for having me along! I hope this post doesn't sound too whiney or like I'm trying to make excuses. I just take a fairly academic approach to riding, and if describing my own experiences can help others to learn who haven't ridden in the dark before or summat, then so much the better.

Incidentally, when you said "averagely fast and mildly aggressive" (ZeroIndex, freaking crazy Durbaners) what you really meant was "fast enough to lose your license and aggressive like the racetrack" huh? Don't you guys worry about being nailed for speeding? I have no problems gassing it on the backroads where encountering a cop is amazingly unlikely, but on the main roads it seems a bit dodgy?

[Warr]

...... Hopefully I'll improve and not slow you guys up in future (:

No apology necessary at all.
Any group ride or in KB terms. (any ride where more than 1 is heading to the same general place at approximately the same time) people ride as individuals at a pace that is within their capabilities.
Riding nights is as you have experienced is not as straight forward as daytime. But you did well, had some :shit: moments but learnt the same.

......
Don't you guys worry about being nailed for speeding? I have no problems gassing it on the backroads where encountering a cop is amazingly unlikely, but on the main roads it seems a bit dodgy?
Radar detectors are our small insurance :) And if your speed is averagly faster than 100 then its only oncoming and stationary danger you have to worry about

[Bnonn]

But you did well, had some :shit: moments but learnt the same.

Radar detectors are our small insurance :) And if your speed is averagly faster than 100 then its only oncoming and stationary danger you have to worry about
Haha, :shit: ...pictures really are worth a thousand words sometimes. Thanks for the encouragement. Where does one get hold of a radar detector, and how much are they? Also, when riding in a group, I presume that there is a signal for cops, aside from just slowing down real fast? Do we use the twirling finger, the tap on the head, or summat else?

[Warr]

Haha, :shit: ...pictures really are worth a thousand words sometimes. Thanks for the encouragement. Where does one get hold of a radar detector, and how much are they? Also, when riding in a group, I presume that there is a signal for cops, aside from just slowing down real fast? Do we use the twirling finger, the tap on the head, or summat else?
We'll go with any signal. But usually a break light and smoke off the rear tyre are clear enough.

Below I posted somewhere else but the details are the same .....

Detectors are car ones, just need

1. Power - A lead to your bike electrics
2. Mounting - something you made in your garage or something from Radardirect (http://www.radardirect.co.nz/index2.html) ~$200
3. Weather protection - bit of tape in the right place or plastic cover from RadarDirect ~$45
4. Earpeice - Your choice really. You could be a dummy like the reat of us that have a curly lead which you need to connect to your helmet every time. Or be clever and get a howler thing (screamer) mounted somewhere on your bike. ~$200

So all adds up when you include the latest Detector as well ~$500

PS Could be a good idea if buying a new Detector to get one that does the new Ku Band which I understand is used widely in Europe.

[Bnonn]

Thanks. I don't think I'll be getting one for a while at that cost; so many other things I have to get first (including proper leathers).

Just thought I'd share this Sport Rider article on night riding, for the benefit of others, since it is pertinent to the thread: http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_9506_motorcycle_night_riding/

[TerminalAddict]

race track agression ??? that was only warr .. he's crazy :weird:

:dodge:

[Bnonn]

Hehe, nah I didn't mean the passing so much, or Warr's speed, as the level of commitment to corners and the average speed of the group. When I ride by myself I'm really conservative. What Jamie didn't mention when you asked him about his license is that he isn't the only one riding illegally. I'm on my restricted. I've been riding for well long enough to have my full, but I didn't get my act together until shortly before my 250 fell apart, so hence I haven't had the restricted long enough to get it yet. I think I had my learner for about two and a half years. Silly me really.

But yeah, you guys ride what I would consider "pretty hard". I know that as riding goes it's not really that crazy, but given my predisposition to be cautious, and my paranoia of New Zealand's terrible road surfaces and drivers, as well as the fact that I often carry a pillion (I'm usually quite careful when doing that, but Jamie will tell stories!) I guess I'm just unaccustomed to pushing my bike as hard as it might like (: But as I said, it was good fun, and as long as I'm behind someone with a radar detector, I'm happy!

[Warr]

race track agression ??? that was only warr .. he's crazy :weird:

:dodge:
And I thought you were my mate !!
Well perhaps you are... do you think I should get onto the track??
If so I'd be looking for sponsors... you could be :first:

[TerminalAddict]

And I thought you were my mate !!
Well perhaps you are... do you think I should get onto the track??
If so I'd be looking for sponsors... you could be :first:

I only know it was you coz I was behind you all the way

damn it ... were's that "not guilty" icon .... :innocent:


"TRACK WARR'S" has a nice ring to it :niceone:

edit: rear tyre progress?

[Waylander]

You bloody hoons you.

[TerminalAddict]

its your fault you ol' yankee .. t'was you who was with me when I bought the wee red dragon ;)

bling awarded :first:

[Warr]

I only know it was you coz I was behind you all the way

damn it ... were's that "not guilty" icon .... :innocent:


"TRACK WARR'S" has a nice ring to it :niceone:

edit: rear tyre progress?
Firstly .. rear tyre can wait !!
2ndly. Too old like my bike !!

No the thing that probably most puts me off is that once you get on the track you become obsessed with that style of riding.
Now he's me; there is no track at the end of my drive, but there is a road. The road demands respect. All manner of dangers out there, which you can try to minimize, but its easy to use and the rewards are greater so-long as the law dont bite.

[ZeroIndex]

Lol, i was just about to ask why no-one came on the Wednesday night ride this afternoon, and realised it isn't Wednesday today... Me, Carver, and Sidewinder met up at Caltex: Dinsdale at 3:00pm today and decided to head over to Raglan... got down the bottom of the Divi and then decided due to the rain that was starting to not go to Raglan after all... got to the SH22 turnoff, and took that up to Ngaruwahia. Me and Carver froze our pants off, and Sidewinder is a crazy mofo... he was going through one right-hand upward-inclined hill, i noticed the back tire of his bike start stepping out, which he held extremely well, when he went to lean back up after the corner, it jumped up, and he got a nasty case of headshake from the handlebars... was quite a good ride, except for the cold and the wet, which i pussied out of by riding slow... another slow rider was Carver, who due to the knobbly tire on his DR, decided to go at a 'as slow as me' pace, and sat quite peacefully behinid me up the whole SH22 section (well, after the gravel part at least)

[Waylander]

Really? I seem to remember saying to keep the Virago.:dodge:

[TerminalAddict]

No the thing that probably most puts me off is that once you get on the track you become obsessed with that style of riding.
I'm thinking of a certain cbr2500rr rider who's name begins with M :)

you're only young ... don't be silly :love:

[carver]

You bloody hoons you.

il see if i can bring the "leading edge" to the next one....anyone with a litre sport bike better watch out!
(google search "SCV100")
similar to honda's RCV series by name only

[TerminalAddict]

and now for something completely different:

I got my Grand Challange entry back today in the post.
My riding card says:
name. Paul
Make. Honda
Model. Blackbird

who amongst you thinks this is a sign from god?

[Warr]

and now for something completely different:

I got my Grand Challange entry back today in the post.
My riding card says:
name. Paul
Make. Honda
Model. Blackbird

who amongst you thinks this is a sign from god?
Ok I'll put my hand up :motu:
You'll go slower for it tho and use more tyres
Example from SB (http://sportsbike.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=13057#p13057) "Sanx" with his Honda RR tyre gone in 2300kms

[Waylander]

and now for something completely different:

I got my Grand Challange entry back today in the post.
My riding card says:
name. Paul
Make. Honda
Model. Blackbird

who amongst you thinks this is a sign from god?
I know someone who might be thinking about selling his since he's juist replaced it with a brand spanky Fireblade.

[Teflon]

Firstly .. rear tyre can wait !!
2ndly. Too old like my bike !!


cheng-shins or shinkos are good.. let me know when you stick them on, i'll be keen to go for a ride..

[Warr]

cheng-shins or shinkos are good.. let me know when you stick them on, i'll be keen to go for a ride..
What would I pay for a set ??

[Teflon]

What would I pay for a set ??
around 350ish for a set of teardrops [ 003 ].. i used the 009s on the vtr, touring compound if i can remember corrrectly.

[cowpoos]

I know someone who might be thinking about selling his since he's juist replaced it with a brand spanky Fireblade.
go back to canada

[Bnonn]

Well, it remains to be seen whether I will be seen at this Wednesday's ride. Something has absolutely thrashed my rear tire—I suspect the nasty jagged rocks which passed for a road on that mission that Jamie and I took the other weekend. I only really noticed it yesterday when my wife, cunning beast that she is, said that the rear tire was making a strange scratchy noise on the road and that the back end felt wobbly compared to normal. I hadn't noticed it at all, which goes to show that gradual deterioration is a nasty thing and also, no doubt, that I am a plonker. Anyway, I went immediately to a gas station, because Sarah is no fool and better safe than sorry, and found my rear tire had 25 psi instead of 42.

Needless to say that a swift examination of the tire surface followed. I know I should check the whole surface every time I ride, but I only check the visible part. I don't wheel my bike into/out of the garage so I don't get an opportunity to critique the tire. Maybe I should. A full check revealed several nasty little holes of indeterminate depth, several heavy scratches, and one gouge that looks like someone took to the tire with a steak knife.

So I repressurized it and checked the front as well, and found that was 30 psi instead of 36. No noticeable issues with its surface, but still a bit of a worry. Today I checked the rear again and it had lost 4 psi, so I'm working on the assumption that at least one of those damage areas has created a slow leak of some kind. So I am going to need to push forward my plans to put some Avon Storms on. But whether I'll be able to do it by Wednesday remains to be seen. I wasn't expecting to spend an extra $500 this week.

So I'll let you guys know, k.

[smoky]

Incidentally, when you said "averagely fast and mildly aggressive" (ZeroIndex, freaking crazy Durbaners) what you really meant was "fast enough to lose your license and aggressive like the racetrack" huh? Don't you guys worry about being nailed for speeding? ... a bit dodgy?

:rofl:
Don't let it worry you Bnonn, even when they cruise they're hard to keep up with, unless you throw caution to the wind.
Mind you it's realative to how much time you spend on the bike, ride as often as those two and your gonna get better.
I didn't think a VFR750 was that quick - I think it's a trick
as for that hornet - I think the riders haunted by a pedegree.

[TerminalAddict]

I didn't think a VFR750 was that quick - I think it's a trick

its all smoke and mirros I'm sure :shutup:



as for that hornet - I think the riders haunted by a pedegree.
so it is all in my jeans ??? or genes .. either one will do I guess :first:

[smoky]

so it is all in my jeans ??? :first:

Like diarrhoea, it runs in your jeans as well

[ZeroIndex]

...Incidentally, when you said "averagely fast and mildly aggressive" (ZeroIndex, freaking crazy Durbaners) what you really meant was "fast enough to lose your license and aggressive like the racetrack" huh? Don't you guys worry about being nailed for speeding? I have no problems gassing it on the backroads where encountering a cop is amazingly unlikely, but on the main roads it seems a bit dodgy?

It was great to have you on the ride, and it was me that noticed you almost jump off the road... was a right-hand corner, and you got slightly too close for comfort to the edge of the road, but I think most people do that at some stage in their life (I know I have...)

averagely fast and mildly aggressive means: go fast when you want to, go slow when you want to (go at your own pace), and mildly aggressive: I've only found one way to get scrubbing done on tyres..... and that's by mildly throwing the bike into corners... must admit I definitely enjoy day-light rides a lot better, especially when they have 40km's of gravel in them :D

[Bnonn]

Yeah, I've been working on my cornering lately, since I have been getting into bad habits of not putting the theory I know into practice. I have to agree about daylight, though; I much prefer to be able to see the vanishing point of a corner.

I'm getting my new Avon Storms fitted tomorrow afternoon, but once they're done, unless a certain cheque clears, I will have about $3 in my bank account. So it's unlikely I'll be coming tomorrow evening, as I won't be able to pay for petrol. Annoying since I would have liked to scrub in the new tires. Next week though.

[Warr]

Have a job out of town tomorrow - could be absent. Have to see how the day goes :)

[TerminalAddict]

I have friends from scotland over.

dinner at the cobb .. so I won't be in

[ZeroIndex]

Sam gave me some red rep... and since red is the fastest colour, all i can say is, get a bike Sam... :p

[chaos]

for one more rider?

[ZeroIndex]

for one more rider?

there's always room for another rider... especially when some of the really fast people are away... 5:30pm at Caltex Dinsdale (Whatawhata Rd)...

[TerminalAddict]

for one more rider?

always room for a honda rider :niceone:

welcome to the site by the way

[Warr]

Trip meter shows 178k's Was a good outing for them that turned up!!
Good spot for a feed, a return trip in the future would not be out of the question.
And the rest of you guys how bout thinking of possible route / destinations.

Points to think about now that the whole ride is in darkness.
Route - As little as possible on main state h/ways.
Gravel - Yes Rob.. but not too much.
Food/refreshments - Think about a possible pub either where we get to, or on the way back before we hit hams. If you make it into the city limits people just cant be bothered and head home!

Thought on a destination. Okoroire, Someone figure out how to get there off the main roads

[chaos]

I just couldn't keep up.. I enjoyed the ride though. If there were any drawbacks it was that it was difficult to deal with those roads at night and at the speeds the group was going. Too many close calls for me.

Cheers for the ride.

[ZeroIndex]

I just couldn't keep up.. I enjoyed the ride though. If there were any drawbacks it was that it was difficult to deal with those roads at night and at the speeds the group was going. Too many close calls for me.

Cheers for the ride.

sorry to hear that you couldn't keep up... we'll give you the excuse that you had the smallest bike there... the ride back was nice... sitting at 140km/h Ben (the guy on the GS500) has decided he doesn't like night-riding at 'our sort of speeds', and that if ever comes on another night ride again, 100km/h will be his speedlimit... haha, what exactly are you gonna do at 100km/h? The guy on the RGV250 says he might be keen for more rides in the future, so Carver, if we organize another Sunday afternoon ride, he might come along, although Ben said he isn't keen for gravel, which means he'll have to find other bikers to hang out with... kinda like that Harley rider on Kahikatea Drive... I was thinking of chasing him for fun like you and Ben did, but I wanted to go to the toilet...

[Warr]

Awards for you guys that know your limits. Draw a line on what speed you are happy to go and dont feel you need to stick with the group. Would be a darn good idea to just head out before them that feel the need. The last 2 night rides we had a pretty good idea on intended destination so if you get there first, well done. If the rest of the pack get past you well be stopping to let you catch up :)

[chaos]

Would there be any more suitable rides for people like Ben and myself?

[chaos]

Awards for you guys that know your limits. Draw a line on what speed you are happy to go and dont feel you need to stick with the group. Would be a darn good idea to just head out before them that feel the need. The last 2 night rides we had a pretty good idea on intended destination so if you get there first, well done. If the rest of the pack get past you well be stopping to let you catch up :)

Thanks Warr, and that sounds like a good idea too.

[TerminalAddict]

so what was the destination?

Chaos:
You're welcome on any rides mate .. shame I did come along last night .. oh well

[heymista]

hey guys.It was i on the cbr last nite.Enjoyed the ride thx.:yes: Look 4ward to a few more with you all.

[Warr]

so what was the destination?
........
Didnt you see us whistle past Cobb&Co ?

[Warr]

hey guys.It was i on the cbr last nite.Enjoyed the ride thx.:yes: Look 4ward to a few more with you all.
Glad to have you along. And yes for some more.
BTW Welcome to the site instead of being a lurker !!

[2 wheel madness]

Trip meter shows 178k's Was a good outing for them that turned up!!
Good spot for a feed, a return trip in the future would not be out of the question.
And the rest of you guys how bout thinking of possible route / destinations.

Points to think about now that the whole ride is in darkness.
Route - As little as possible on main state h/ways.
Gravel - Yes Rob.. but not too much.
Food/refreshments - Think about a possible pub either where we get to, or on the way back before we hit hams. If you make it into the city limits people just cant be bothered and head home!

Thought on a destination. Okoroire, Someone figure out how to get there off the main roads


Ive heard Okoroire is a good ride, out thru mistery creek over the river at karapiro (back on the main road but only for a K or two) turn off at the Mobil and follow the road all the way there

[TerminalAddict]

kihikihi --> arapuni damn --> putaruru -->tirau-->oko

[ZeroIndex]

kihikihi --> arapuni damn --> putaruru -->tirau-->oko

that's the one we did with PaddyFZ1 isn't it? That was a nice ride

[ZeroIndex]

Would there be any more suitable rides for people like Ben and myself?

Come on the same rides, just go at your own pace... We always stop here and there for the pack to regroup... if we didn't, we would never see Warr or TerminalAddict

[Bnonn]

Yeah, I'll always be lagging behind anyway. I like to take it a bit slower, so I'm glad for the company (:

[smoky]

Yeah, I'll always be lagging behind anyway. I like to take it a bit slower, so I'm glad for the company (:

I might come for the odd ride as well on Wednesday night, I'm slow so that'll be another one for the slow pack.
Problem is I don't get home from work until about 6pm - normaly too late for you guys, but if I knew where your going I might catch up - eventually.

[Warr]

This Wed night. Not sure if I'll be out in the evening as well. Probably doing a day outing somewhere.

[TerminalAddict]

I'll be on the day ride ;)

prolly won't be on the night ride

[heymista]

Over coromandel hooking into the snappas hopefully so c you all next week.

[FzerozeroT]

Tomorrow (Anzac Day) there is a "road trial" (follow directions and measure kilometres) leaving the Hamilton Motorcycle Club (seddon road) at 9am for those interested in learnng some new backroads.

in here coz i can't be stuffed starting a new thread

[ZeroIndex]

I'll be sitting at home doing nothing tomorrow cause I can't afford gas :(

[Warr]

I have friends from scotland over.
dinner at the cobb .. so I won't be in
Ohh Finally read post. I thought you was just being a snob :rockon:

[ZeroIndex]

K, emergency post...

Since tomorrow is a holiday and Carver is crazy, Carver, Sidewindow and I are meeting up at Shell Pukete at 9pm tonight and heading out to some beach for the night...

If you wanna come along, basically bring yourself, your bike, sleeping bag... and any other essentials you think you'll need...

See whoever is crazy enough to be in Hamilton's Loose Ewe-nit, PEACE OUT!!

[smoky]

meeting up at Shell Pukete at 9pm tonight and heading out to some beach for the night...

If you wanna come along, basically bring yourself, your bike, sleeping bag... and any other essentials you think you'll need.

I remember being young once
by essential you mean drink right - hope you light a fire to keep warm

[TerminalAddict]

I remember being young once


crikey ... you should be proud of that :nya:

[smoky]

crikey ... you should be proud of that :nya:

Don't see you jumpin at the idea of spending a winter night on the beach - not even fishin. (should do that again sometime)
If you guys are spending the night on a beach out at Raglan keep your eyes peeled for a UFO's

[Waylander]

Don't see you jumpin at the idea of spending a winter night on the beach - not even fishin. (should do that again sometime)
If you guys are spending the night on a beach out at Raglan keep your eyes peeled for a UFO's
Last time I checked it wasn't winter yet. The shop I get my lunches from doesn't have wedges except during winter and today when I went in, no wedges.

[TerminalAddict]

but there is definately UFOs at raglan :niceone:

just no wedges

[Waylander]

but there is definately UFOs at raglan :niceone:

Might be why they are going. Carver want's an anal probe.

[TerminalAddict]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Waylander again.

[Teflon]

K,

See whoever is crazy enough to be in Hamilton's Loose Ewe-nit, PEACE OUT!!
thats just crazy..

Tuesdays still bi-night down at california girls?

[deeknow]

kihikihi --> arapuni damn --> putaruru -->tirau-->oko

on the way back a nice route is...

turnoff towards SH27 --> straight across it towards SH29 --> then across that onto the Taotaoroa road --> which brings you back to Karapiro

[Warr]

Too challenging for me .. post us up a map...... Someone did that on a previous thread..... Wonder if I can find

Ok didnt find the route planner I was hoping for , but did find something. Deeknow, why not
Get on SH27 > then left onto Totman > cross SH29 onto Taotaoroa road > Karapiro

[Switch]

Don't see you jumpin at the idea of spending a winter night on the beach - not even fishin. (should do that again sometime)


Damn right we should go fishing :banana:

[ZeroIndex]

Don't see you jumpin at the idea of spending a winter night on the beach - not even fishin. (should do that again sometime)
If you guys are spending the night on a beach out at Raglan keep your eyes peeled for a UFO's
No UFO's in Papamoa


Might be why they are going. Carver want's an anal probe.
Not completely sure, but I think we all escaped anal-probe free... you fix your bike yet?


on the way back a nice route is...
turnoff towards SH27 --> straight across it towards SH29 --> then across that onto the Taotaoroa road --> which brings you back to Karapiro
Heading up to Whangamata and back via Waihi is also quite a nice route back :)


Too challenging for me .. post us up a map...... Someone did that on a previous thread..... Wonder if I can find
Ok didnt find the route planner I was hoping for , but did find something. Deeknow, why not
Get on SH27 > then left onto Totman > cross SH29 onto Taotaoroa road > Karapiro
We can only plan a trip if we know where we planned on going :p it just kinda fell into place in a really good way :D

Instead of Raglan, Me, Carver, Sidewindow and Pathos (His birthday today), met up at Pukete Shell @ 9pm. Then headed to Tauranga. Sidewindow got a bit throttle happy before the Kaimai's, and landed himself a speeding ticket.

Stopped at the Caltex just before Tauranga for a smoke and to decide where we were going. Ended up heading down to Papamoa, rode 500 meters up the beach on the sand (friggin difficult that), and parked up next to a deserted campfire that had been going for quite sometime. No-one else was about, so we claimed it as ours, and hopped into our sleeping bags and went to sleep.

Woke up this morning and headed back down the beach (yes, on the sand) and up the path back to the road. Headed into the Mount, where the whole Anzac Day thingy was going on. Hung around there for a while, stopped in at the BK Lounge for a bite to eat, and then headed up to Whangamata via Waihi. When we got to Whangamata, there were old-skool cars everwhere. Turns out, it was the Beach Hop. We parked our bikes up and wandered around for about 2 hours, where we saw DMNTD on his ZX-10, and partner on the Aprillia RSVR (can't remember her name). Wandered back to the bikes, and headed back to Hamilton via Waihi again...

Was a fun ride for the Hamilton Loose Ewe-nit, and I'm sure there will be many more random rides to come... as soon as I get a job so I can afford some petrol...

[Waylander]

Dammit man. Tell carver he wont find my house and he wont get his probe from me.

Wondered what the noise was down there last night.

[carver]

Dammit man. Tell carver he wont find my house and he wont get his probe from me.

Wondered what the noise was down there last night.

i tried to slip finding your place past the boys..pretended to be lost..:gob:

[Switch]

Good write up Rob. Sounds like you guys had a good time :first:
Will have to do that with a huge group of Kbers sometime ;)

[Chaos83]

I'm trying to get my assignments done this weekend so I'll have Wednesday night free. Gotta get a balaclava.. it's getting r-r-ridiculously cold.

Oh, TerminalAddict, sounds like I'd be happy to go the speeds you go ;). I'd be glad to see you on Wednesday.

-Kias

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[Warr]

Wont be around for tonights ride ... :(

[TerminalAddict]

I won't be in tonight either :cry:

[Chaos83]

Me either. Still haven't completed those assignments..

Oh well.. next time..

[smoky]

I can't make it tonight either



But then again - I never do
and it's already too late

[ZeroIndex]

Me and Ben showed up cause we had nothing better to do (although we didn't feel like going for the actual ride)... no one else showed up anyway...

[Switch]

Sorry, was busy riding a Brand spanking new GT250R ;)