Again - car vs motorcycle!! [Archive]

yungatart

8th February 2007, 16:02

Yes, you read it right-shaping up to be a bad month with all these bins.
hXc was knocked off his bike today.
After school, in somewhat heavy (for Napier) traffic about 100 m from the school gates, he was riding slowly (about 10 kph) when he was hit from behind by another student from school. She was travelling at about 50 and didn't see him (quelle surprise!!). She hit the right rear of his bike with the left front of her car, pushed the back of the bike sideways, just cleared his leg then hit the brake caliper on the right front fork. Damage at this point, is the rear plastics are all farked, seat is broken, tank scratched and dented, muffler stuffed, right footpeg set bent, front brrake caliper smashed, disc bent and forks twisted in the triple clamps.
She is denying responsibility, says he hit her from behind!! WTF?? Damage to her car is limited to left front guard, bumper and bonnet.
hxc has a few grazes on his back and is complaining of slight back pain.
She gets to drive away, we have to trailer hXc's bike to the shop.
Cops attended and the evidence supports hXc's side of things, she will get a ticket for failing to stop in half the clear road - $150!
Looks like hxc's bike is a write off - but bikes can be replaced. He is fine, when he could have so easily lost his leg.
A great start to the new school year for him.... I think not!!

Colapop

8th February 2007, 16:05

Don't get him a new bike!! The insurance can kick start his exchange programme fund...

Zac bro, just a blip on the radar. You're ok, that's what is important. You'll be back into it before too long buddy.

(I'd like to point out that I didn't report this one!!)

ManDownUnder

8th February 2007, 16:05

Give the cheeky little bastard a Hi from me. Prick of a situation and I'm glad he came out of it ok.

I wonder if she's insured... and what's he want to get next?

Dooly

8th February 2007, 16:08

Did the chick show interest in his welfare, or was more concerned about herself and the blame?
Stupid fuck.

wilber

8th February 2007, 16:08

Main things he's ok if not a little sore ,bike can be fixed or replaced.

crashe

8th February 2007, 16:10

((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))) for Hxc......

Gee whizz, I am so glad he is ok......

Damned pleased the police are gonna charge the driver of the car for being in the wrong.

Get him to write everything down as it happened and to also draw a picture of it all. Helps for later when the police come to take a statement. and for insurance purposes.

yep the bike can be fixed or replaced......

Toast

8th February 2007, 16:10

I hope that bike rider has insurance and she doesn't, so that she gets taken to the cleaners.

Edbear

8th February 2007, 16:10

Sorry to hear! She should be charged with careless use causing injury! Get Hxc checked out anyway, as ACC can have it on record in case his back plays up in the future.

Mom

8th February 2007, 16:11

Seems a repetitive kind of thing we are reading about here, thank goodness Jac is relatively unharmed, the bike repair is a pain for sure, in more ways than one, I guess someone will have to taxi now? Make sure that man of yours takes extra care out there for a bit eh?

Lissa

8th February 2007, 16:27

awww bugger! Hope his back isnt too serious... and he takes it easy for a bit. Take care.

hXc

8th February 2007, 16:38

Well...
That was certainly an experience I would prefer not to be repeated. Stupid woman, shouldn't be allowed on the road. Especially them young ones.

I'm ok, which is the main thing. Nothing to be too wound up about, I couldn't of done anything to stop it happening. My back is a bit grazed and a little sore, and I have the formings of a bruise or two on my leg. Nothing serious though, which is good.

Bike is another story. But it can be replaced. Coyote has expressed interest in the bike if it is a write-off, but I don't know what to get next. I can't exactly not have a bike, I would die! I would lose all my freedom and everything. It's another year until I can get my full and I'm a law abiding citizen, so not exactly gunna go ride a 900 although I would love to.

Hmmm...what to do, what to do.

Beemer

8th February 2007, 16:38

Not good to hear, Yungatart. Seems pretty poor that she will only get a fine when the consequences could have been so much more serious.

Glad to hear he's in one piece and only has aches and pains, but bummer about the bike.

Coyote

8th February 2007, 16:39

At least he wasn't the muppet :p

Poor Spada. She was a beaut

kiwifruit

8th February 2007, 16:42

bloody bikes should be banned from our roads...... dangerous hooligan toys

chanceyy

8th February 2007, 16:46

well as others have stated glad that zac is ok .. bikes sure can be replaced ..

Back Fire

8th February 2007, 16:47

bloody bikes should be banned from our roads...... dangerous hooligan toys

you deserve a kick for that... even though its a p/t

yungatart

8th February 2007, 16:53

I hope that bike rider has insurance and she doesn't, so that she gets taken to the cleaners.
They both have 3rd party with the same company, apparently we have to wait for them to lodge a claim before our claim can proceed...huh?

Did the chick show interest in his welfare, or was more concerned about herself and the blame?
Stupid fuck.

She did go to him and ask if he was all right, but she was more concerned about getting her story right I think, although to be fair, she was really upset and got one hell of a fright... hopefully enough to make her more aware in the future.

cowboyz

8th February 2007, 16:54

shocker.. but not surprising. starting to become all too common. Good to hear you made it out the other side.

Nasty

8th February 2007, 16:55

Glad to hear you are ok .. sorry about the bike .. but better that than you ...

Maha

8th February 2007, 16:58

It's another year until I can get my full and I'm a law abiding citizen, so not exactly gunna go ride a 900 although I would love to.

Hmmm...what to do, what to do.

You have had your hair cut right???....although you got banged from behind so i guess you didnt see her coming?...which brings to my next point.....na that can wait for now....:shutup: the temtation to get a bigger bike is all to great when you go shopping..take it from one who knows...:yes: i got a 600 Yamaha before i got my full, and rode it, naughty naughty Maha!! :spanking:

Gixxer 4 ever

8th February 2007, 16:58

Bloody hell.
Patrick told me about this. Glad you are ok Zac. Patrick called in to your place after work. He noted no one home then he got your txt.
Take care and we will catch up sometime soon.

Where is da bike?

MSTRS

8th February 2007, 17:08

Grahameeboy

8th February 2007, 17:12

MSTRS

8th February 2007, 17:17

Aw...shucks...thanks

Mr Skid

8th February 2007, 17:21

you got banged from behind*snigger*

Dude, Was the girl that hit you hot?
Maybe you could offer to settle 'privately', and let her keep her no claims bonus..

MSTRS

8th February 2007, 17:25

Short. Wide. Ginga. Freckles.
I don't think that 'private settlement' is on the cards.

Mr Skid

8th February 2007, 17:42

Short. Wide. Ginga. Freckles.
I don't think that 'private settlement' is on the cards.
Why does God make ugly girls? :confused:

kiwifruit

8th February 2007, 17:49

Why does God make ugly girls? :confused:

for guys like me.....
did you get her number Zac?

MSTRS

8th February 2007, 17:54

.....
did you get her number Zac?

No, but I did. :sick: I sense an extra dollar or three towards the replacement bike...

kiwifruit

8th February 2007, 17:58

No, but I did. :sick: I sense an extra dollar or three towards the replacement bike...

$2-50 and you have a deal

yungatart

8th February 2007, 18:05

$2-50 and you have a deal

Any higher bids out there?
Someone must be more desperate than that????

Macktheknife

8th February 2007, 18:07

Really glad to hear you are OK Zac, and that Mum and Dad are ok too, nasty shock is news like that.
Make sure you get the back thing checked out and the 3rd party claim should go through a little smoother with a copy of the Police report attached showing responsibility for the damage belongs to the girl.
All the best mate
Mack

pritch

8th February 2007, 18:08

Well...
Stupid woman, shouldn't be allowed on the road. Especially them young ones.
.

Ahhh little Emo buddy, if you keep saying things like that you could spend a lotta nights alone :yes:

RT527

8th February 2007, 18:10

beyond

8th February 2007, 18:10

Not another one :(

Glad hXc is ok :) Bikes can be replaced or fixed but peoples are another matter. Still, what a pain, right on summer and claims take for ever when you want a bike.

What is it going to take for people to see us or anything for that matter??

It's frightening to think that there are heaps of people like this driving around totally oblivious to all around them except Kenworths and Big Mack trucks.

The lady at work yesterday, drove out of the carpark, along a six metre wide driveway and straight into a pile of pallets against the wall!! I didn't see them, she says?????!!!!!!!!*******

They are out there so be careful all.

Always assume you are going to be the target when a cage is around and always assume that they really are out to get us.

RT527

8th February 2007, 18:11

Glad to Hear HXC is fine , best wishes and chin up.

Drum

8th February 2007, 18:12

Bugger! Glad you're ok, and please avoid the hat-trick!

yungatart

8th February 2007, 18:15

Bugger! Glad you're ok, and please avoid the hat-trick!

I think that I might hide the keys to Mstrs's bike for a while.....will that work, do you think??
Actually, I doubt that it has sunk in for Zac yet. He has been so calm - even his principal commented on his calmness and maturity, it might be a different story later.

KATWYN

8th February 2007, 18:15

Ditto to what everyone has said HXC. Glad you came out of this ok. :sunny:
that could have been very nasty.

sunhuntin

8th February 2007, 18:23

why is it always the good ones that get sunk? stupid cow! im amazed ya didnt slap her senseless. i would have, specially saying you hit her from the back! :shit: pretty hard to hit the back when you are in front!

heal up well, dude! this is hittin a little too close to home

madmal64

8th February 2007, 18:29

Short. Wide. Ginga. Freckles.
I don't think that 'private settlement' is on the cards.

Hey whats wrong with Ginga? (waits for the barrage)
Glad to hear all concerned are still above ground & breathing by themselves.
It always amazes me that people cannot see objects out the front windscreen.
I got hit from behind at a set of traffic lights while stopped with my brake light one once! Got the usual osidsy (opps sorry I didnt see you)
All the looking through bike trader an on line for new toys is fun though.

Crisis management

8th February 2007, 19:06

Glad to hear your OK...thats about all that really matters.

Take it easy and enjoy the new bike hunt....(if your dad was really kind he would lend you the mistress, dont ya think?)

Dilligaf

8th February 2007, 19:11

says he hit her from behind!! WTF?? Damage to her car is limited to left front guard

Tell her NICE TRY!!!

Hope you are on the road to recovery soon HXC

Clivoris

8th February 2007, 19:12

:argh: Glad you're ok Zac. Ditto to previous comments too. Top marks for the cool calmliness. Mmmm. New bike shopping. Don't be shy about challenging the insurance estimate if it comes in low mate. There are plenty people willing to testify to the well maintained standard of your bike.

MSTRS

8th February 2007, 19:15

....(if your dad was really kind he would lend you the mistress, dont ya think?)

Absolutely. Unfortunately, The Mistress is gone. And hXc is waaay too young to handle a Wanton Hussy.

Wasp27

8th February 2007, 19:17

FFS..Glad to hear your OK Zac...well as can be expected. Did someone in that house run over a friggen chinaman or sumfin...cheers W

Crisis management

8th February 2007, 19:20

Absolutely. Unfortunately, The Mistress is gone. And hXc is waaay too young to handle a Wanton Hussy.

Bastard, behind the times again... you lot probably get the sun first too.:angry:

riffer

8th February 2007, 19:37

Bugger. Bummer Zac.

She was a lovely little bike that Spada.

Glad to hear you're okay. But it will hurt more tomorrow.

I guess MSTRS is doing all the housework now...:dodge:

gijoe1313

8th February 2007, 19:51

:gob: Not you too hxc! Glad to hear that you're okay and even though the bike is totalled - better that than any other scenario :sick:

You sound like a sensible chap and I wish half my students were at your level of maturity! Ah, bugger - just take your time and do the same thing you did when you finally got your Spada...enjoy! :yes:

As for that lass...I get the feeling that may not be the last we hear of her! :shutup:

McJim

8th February 2007, 20:03

Poor sad little Spada is waiting for attention at Mainjet. They can assess etc as well as anyone, and it was handy. And it's only just had a new SportDemon and WOF. We are gutted and relieved at the same time. hXc seems really philosophical about the whole thing. Proud of him, we are.

Not to mention a new saddle.

Seriously - pleased you're alright Zac - you can limp like me now :yes: Haven't logged on all day so this is the first I've seen of it. If the insurance company write it of they may take the bike to sell for scrap (recover some of their loss) which is a shame as it would make a good wee fun track day bike - I'd have taken the engine off yer hands and dropped it in my VTR!

Get yourself a dirty little 2 smoker in the meantime to keep you on the road.

Wasp

8th February 2007, 20:39

damn, that sucks dude - i feel really sorry for you, not having a bike is going to suck :(

I havn't read the other posts but $20 says the girl that hit you was txting

avgas

8th February 2007, 21:00

Silly bloody women, how can she possibly deny.
I hope geese get her

Chickadee

8th February 2007, 21:03

What a darn shame about the Spada, she was a beauty.

Hope the dingbat that trashed your beauty has her insurance cough up, even though she's denying all responsibility, I'm sure the cops etc will make sure it's bloody obvious it's her crap driving (and not paying attention) that's to blame.

Hope you get a new vroom vroom soon. You can have a tootle on my wee crazy frog when we're down.

Glad Zac is okay! Rest up & see ya soon

Scorpygirl

8th February 2007, 21:30

Hi HxC

I am so glad you are OK. Hope everything gets sorted out matey. Sorry I have only just caught up with this thread due to a call from Crashe. I have been out at a meeting.

Take care please.

BUNGY

8th February 2007, 22:01

She is denying responsibility, says he hit her from behind!! WTF?? Damage to her car is limited to left front guard, bumper and bonnet.

What an idiot

Mr. Peanut

8th February 2007, 22:02

KLOWN

8th February 2007, 22:45

Did she lie to the police about what happened? pity there isn't some charge that could be laid against her for that. I ithink driving causeing injury sounds like a good one. glad all is ok

Lucy

9th February 2007, 04:02

Man those honda spadas are AWESOME. Fancy hitting a girl from the back and managing to damage her front end!

You should find a better school, or that girls teachers should be fired for doing a crap job.

Glad you are ok. Otherwise MSTRS would be able to get a job as a nurse.

Edbear

9th February 2007, 06:20

The lady at work yesterday, drove out of the carpark, along a six metre wide driveway and straight into a pile of pallets against the wall!! I didn't see them, she says?????!!!!!!!!*******

They are out there so be careful all.

Always assume you are going to be the target when a cage is around and always assume that they really are out to get us.

LOL!!!!

And what makes you think they can see Kenworth trucks? I drive a truck every day and as one poster said, most are completely oblivious to any other vehicle around them!!!

Another problem with these nongs, is that they see a truck coming, automatically think you're travelling slower simply because you are in a truck and pull out in front of you! They seem astonished to see and hear your truck is suddenly 6" from their rear! At times I'm certain that if I'd been in Mack instead of a little Toyota Dyna, I'd have run the idiots over!

Sorry hxc! Not intending to hijack your thread! All the best, and again, I find myself impressed with your attitude!

Vagabond

9th February 2007, 07:16

Shite not good at all, glad you're mostly fine, bikies are repairable or replaceable.
Heal up and ride again!

apteryx_haasti

9th February 2007, 07:17

Hey hXc, 'tart and MSTRS - glad to hear Zac is OK and that y'all are holding together there.

I think you'd better return that cursed monkey foot to the mysterious old chinaman now...

Or better yet, hide it in that chick's car!

judecatmad

9th February 2007, 07:47

Good grief - another one :(

So glad to hear he's OK. Bikes can be fixed/replced, people are not so easy to do the same!

Silly b!tch.......

Guitana

9th February 2007, 07:53

Good grief - another one :(

So glad to hear he's OK. Bikes can be fixed/replced, people are not so easy to do the same!

Silly b!tch.......

Oh dont be too hard on her she obviously did'nt see him!!Or just did'nt bother to look!!!
Anyway it will all work out the young fellas not too banged up he will get to shop for another bike and Kiwifruit just scored himself a new flash Ginga missus for $2.50.
Dont let it put you off hxc get back on and tame that bitch!!!!!!!

BNZ

9th February 2007, 10:36

Bugger. Oh well, she is probably on a car drivers forum where they all bitch and moan that motorbikes are the work of the devil and everytime they have a crash it is the motorbikers fault.

WTF is wrong with all these people (including too many bloody kiwi bikers) not taking responsibilty for damage they cause! Fuck me, if you run up the back of someone then get your wallet out!

Glad to hear you ok mate, unfortunately chicks dig scars, not back pain. Better get that one sorted. :rockon:

WickedOne

9th February 2007, 10:39

hXc

9th February 2007, 11:07

Well as a few of you said, the calmness is dying and the angry about my bike is kicking in. The crash doesn't really bother me much, it's the fact that I've lost my bike, my freedom etc that bothers me. People who know me know how much I love(d) that bike; it may not have been in the greatest condition, or clean all the time but it was my baby.

Unfortunately, the logic is flowing into my brain. I'm leaning towards getting a cheap car to replace the bike. It's more logical for a drummer to have just a car, than just a bike. And with going places, needing to take things or walk around all day, it's easier with a car as I don't have to carry helmet etc etc. It is worth it for the fun, but can be an inconvenience.

This has not put me off bikes. I repeat, this has not put me off bikes. But I may just have to take a break from owning a bike for a while. This isn't to say I won't be riding...but I won't be owning a bike. Unfortunately, it's part of the long-term damage to having some bitch rear-end me.

James Deuce

9th February 2007, 11:13

That's a bugger Zac, but a car for carrying drums around is a darn fine idea.

(you've always got Mum's bike if the desire gets too strong)

yungatart

9th February 2007, 11:16

For some reason, he is not too keen on my bike!
I would have thought that a little cruiser would be every 16 y/o boys dream bike....seems I am wrong!

Guitana

9th February 2007, 11:20

James Deuce

9th February 2007, 11:21

There's nothing wrong with the bike, it's just that it's yours mate, so that makes it inherently uncool.

hXc

9th February 2007, 11:23

Get ya self a big 4WD Zac and run the cow over I've got a 1994 Hilux for sale if you're keen Bro!!!! Get ya drum kit in there a piece of piss!! then you can lay down the rear seats and sort out your groupies in the back!!!!!!
Rock on Little Bro!!!!!Rather a station wagon thanks. 4WD's = silly things.

There's nothing wrong with the bike, it's just that it's yours mate, so that makes it inherently uncool. Never said there was anything wrong with it, but I don't like it.

Swoop

9th February 2007, 11:25

Hang on a sec. Did the cager pass a school at 50kmh??? That is now officially "naughty" and gets a slap on the wrist...

Glad you are ok hXc!!!

Edit: checked first post. Within 100m of a school.

hXc

9th February 2007, 11:30

Hang on a sec. Did the cager pass a school at 50kmh???Nah we're in Hawkes Bay. We have normal speed limits past schools here.

Do people never listen?! The speed limit has not changed, only the tolerance has.

Swoop

9th February 2007, 11:35

Nah we're in Hawkes Bay. We have normal speed limits past schools here.

Do people never listen?! The speed limit has not changed, only the tolerance has.

Said nothing about offences, just "naughty" :lol:

hXc

9th February 2007, 11:38

Said nothing about offences, just "naughty" :lol:Why is it naughty? 50kmh is the speed limit, you can legally do that.

LilSel

9th February 2007, 11:44

Glad to hear your ok!... shame about your bike.
Hope ya bumps n bruises heal soon n things get sorted with insurance etc promptly. :)

Wolf

9th February 2007, 11:48

Zac, how'd you ever manage to ride backwards into the rear of her car in such a way that you damaged the front of it? :gob:

Sheesh, some people! She's ginga? Sounds blonde to me.

Gutted to hear of the accident, guys! Glad you're not too badly banged-up, Zac, but a bummer about your bike. Glad I got to see the glorious Spada before the silly twat wrecked it.

Can well understand your feelings of losing your freedom, dude, I know how I feel when I have no bike and it's not pleasant.

MSTRS: by his age, Zac should already have had a Wanton Hussy or two - his education's been sadly lacking... :devil2:

All the best finding a suitable replacement for the Spada ASAP.

Indiana_Jones

9th February 2007, 13:35

Man, everyone seems to be getting by cars lately?! lol Myself included.

But yea, good to hear your ok :)

What a bitch. Slap that whore silly then take her cage and burn it.

-Indy

MSTRS

9th February 2007, 13:41

MSTRS: by his age, Zac should already have had a Wanton Hussy or two - his education's been sadly lacking... :devil2:

*headinsand*
I.Don't.Want.To.Know.

Swoop

9th February 2007, 16:05

Why is it naughty? 50kmh is the speed limit, you can legally do that.
Exactly! Tell that to the media though...

BuFfY

9th February 2007, 19:35

I am glad you are ok sweetpea, all will work out well in the end!

Gixxer 4 ever

9th February 2007, 19:52

Ummmm a cage.................well it would fix the drum thing........why not a ute and we could have a recovery vehicle for our Wednesday rides...........

Yep Mums bike would do it for a while. After all Dad rode it for 400 km not so long ago. And I was told he loved it. :dodge:

And girls like shiny chrome things....:yes: ....

hXc

9th February 2007, 20:20

Ummmm a cage.................well it would fix the drum thing........why not a ute and we could have a recovery vehicle for our Wednesday rides...........Ute's are not good for drums. The tray is too big and everything slides around, causing more damage than good.

Yep Mums bike would do it for a while.It'll do for the time being. But I'd rather not have to ride it all the time. Just want the stupid cow to hurry up with the insurance crap.

Apparently we have to wait for her to make a claim before we can proceed with ours. But the thing is, I don't even know if she will make a claim, 'cause it's not really worth it for her. If she doesn't, I'm basically gunna say that we can do this the easy way or the hard way, either way I will get my money, I suggest you choose the easy way.

Easy way is that they just give me what the bike is worth (IMO $4000 at least) and the hard way is for me to go to disputes tribunal.

terbang

9th February 2007, 20:35

Jeez 'tis a month for it. Bounce back there lad and don't let the girls push yer around too much. Err well your mum can, but thats it, OK.

Wolf

9th February 2007, 20:36

Apparently we have to wait for her to make a claim before we can proceed with ours. But the thing is, I don't even know if she will make a claim, 'cause it's not really worth it for her.
Am I to gather that she hasn't got enough damage to her car to warrant making an insurance claim on it?

How many times have I told ya: "Use your helmet to take out all the windows in the cage" - it's fucked after the accident anyway, might as well get some final use out of it.

If the slapper refuses to pay up, leak the story 'round school that she's pregnant...

to her father...

It won't help with replacing the bike, granted, but at least the lying bimbo will get a taste of the hell you're going through with being bikeless...

Wolf

9th February 2007, 20:38

Bounce back there lad
I gather he'd love to but 'tis hard to bounce back without a bike or the readies to get another.

hXc

9th February 2007, 20:44

Am I to gather that she hasn't got enough damage to her car to warrant making an insurance claim on it?She only has 3rd party. So is liable for damages to my bike, but she won't get anything for her car.

How many times have I told ya: "Use your helmet to take out all the windows in the cage" - it's fucked after the accident anyway, might as well get some final use out of it.Helmet didn't even touch the ground. Not a scratch on it, why wreck a perfectly good helmet?

If the slapper refuses to pay up, leak the story 'round school that she's pregnant...

to her father...

It won't help with replacing the bike, granted, but at least the lying bimbo will get a taste of the hell you're going through with being bikeless..."The slapper" couldn't get any anyway, even if it was her father!

sunhuntin

9th February 2007, 20:55

excuse my ignorance here, but what is a "slepper"? i know what a slapper is, and also what a sleeper is, but a mix of the two? maybe a slapper whos sleeping? lol.

James Deuce

9th February 2007, 20:59

I don't know what a slepper is either, but Sleipnir was Odin's 8 legged horse, so ask Colapop, he's a Viking.

hXc

9th February 2007, 21:00

excuse my ignorance here, but what is a "slepper"? i know what a slapper is, and also what a sleeper is, but a mix of the two? maybe a slapper whos sleeping? lol.My bad. Fixed.

Wolf

9th February 2007, 21:05

hXc

9th February 2007, 21:08

So my translation of the above is:

You're both with the same insurance agency so no matter who is in the wrong, it comes out of their coffers. You have put in a claim but they don't want to pay so they're making payment conditional on her putting in a claim in the hopes of avoiding a payout on a totalled vehicle.

Close?Yeah that sounds pretty much right. Whether she puts a claim in or not, the stupid bitch will give me the money I am owed for the bike. But I just wish she could hurry up so I can get the car I want (Have already found it).

Not even a station wagon, but will fit a drumkit in it, although most of it will be on the back seat, but that doesn't matter. She's a li'l 1500cc manual hatchback. A wee 1992 Nissan Pulsar. Good car.

Wolf

9th February 2007, 21:19

All the best, Zac. Here's hoping she'll see that she's going to wind up paying and then figure it'd be less of a financial load to put in the claim and make the insurance company wear the cost.

Grinner

9th February 2007, 21:24

Good to hear you are OK.

Remember to include a new helmet in with the insurance claim.

Keep smiling

quickbuck

9th February 2007, 21:39

Not even a station wagon, but will fit a drumkit in it, although most of it will be on the back seat, but that doesn't matter. She's a li'l 1500cc manual hatchback. A wee 1992 Nissan Pulsar. Good car.

Man, are you sure your helmet never touched the ground?

Sounds like you got a real bad knock to the head to me!

Na, jokes.
Sorry to hear of your "accident". Well it truly was for you, but I am picking she had her thumb occupied too.

Hope you get back onto a bike soon. Well I know you will miss it, and once the finances are healthier, you will get your 600 and never be without a bike again.

hXc

9th February 2007, 21:40

Sorry to hear of your "accident". Well it truly was for you, but I am picking she had her thumb occupied too.She wasn't texting. She just wasn't fucking looking.

quickbuck

9th February 2007, 21:46

Okay.
Hope she sorts out the reparation for you soon.

Lucy

10th February 2007, 04:29

She wasn't texting. She just wasn't fucking looking.

I'm not sure what the cost is to file a claim with the Disputes tribunal, but if its still not much, I'd do it anyway. People will drag the chain as much as poss, hoping it will go away. years ago someone wrote off my car Long story short, I ended up having to pay for a lawyer and agreeing for them to settle out of court otherwise only my lawyer would have got any money.

Hurry her up by doing something yourself, if you only have third party the insurance companies dont go in to bat for you, you'll have to do the legwork. Make a report to the cops, if you leave it they wont even write it up, knowing you are only doing it for the money side of it. Start proceedings so she KNOWS you are serious. And/or, go around there and aske her/her folks for the cash up front, then they dont have hassles with insurance either. Have some evidence to back up your valuation of the bike.

Coyote

10th February 2007, 08:44

Easy way is that they just give me what the bike is worth (IMO $4000 at least) and the hard way is for me to go to disputes tribunal.
Might be pushing it at $4000. You can't jack up the price because of sentimental value

Then again they're going up in price along with all learner bikes

She wasn't texting. She just wasn't fucking looking.
You're fucking kidding...

That can be traced apparently. People have been caught cheating in tests because Telecom/Vodapone have records of when people were texting. Unless she didn't get a chance to send that text, that can be more evidence against her (if you haven't already got enough)

MSTRS

23rd February 2007, 15:54

Claim finally lodged with insurance - the little bitch has changed her description of 'what happened' yet again, and still denies responsibility. This in spite of police report, witness statements, physical evidence and being charged with 'Failing to stop within....'. Insurance has been given all the info etc by me and still they say 'We haven't reviewed the file yet so we have to go on what our client tells us', Like we are not their client too. 3rd party cover is a complete have.
Adding insult to injury, the mother phones today, suggesting that without admitting liability, they are prepared to go halves on repairing the little cow's car. WTF!!
My fingers are crossed that the insurer finds in our favour and convinces the little cow to accept she was in the wrong.
Otherwise, next step is Disputes Tribunal.
She still gets to drive her heap of shit car around whilst a little boy waits

paturoa

23rd February 2007, 17:45

..... the little bitch has changed her description of 'what happened' yet again, and still denies responsibility. This in spite of police report, witness statements, physical evidence and being charged with 'Failing to stop within....'.

Sounds like she is poo-ing in her own nest and will land on her arse.

Perhaps you could have a quiet word with the insurance people that she has changed her story. The rozza report will back that up because it will have recorded what she told them.

...... false claim to insurance should have the poo flowing in her direction quite quickly.

Multiple Edits for spelling grammer and correct use of arse - do I pass?

MSTRS

23rd February 2007, 17:51

Your arse is looking good, Paturoa....um, er, well....you know what I mean.
And I have to agree that the little bitch is doing herself no favours, but then I would eh?

Chickadee

23rd February 2007, 17:59

Definitely report it to the insurance company regarding the changes in story. If they think they have a case for damages to her car, they'll get laughed out of court(if they take it that far) - just f's you off in the interim having to deal with a family of low lifes.

Hope the insurance company hurries up and sorts their shit out. Not nice dangling waiting for a yay or nay

Chickadee

23rd February 2007, 18:01

PS hope you told the mother to get stuffed!

MSTRS

23rd February 2007, 18:18

PS hope you told the mother to get stuffed!

Absolutely! And then got straight on to the ins co, (fat lot of good that did - so far)

CM2005

23rd February 2007, 18:56

Any higher bids out there?
Someone must be more desperate than that????

what kinda bike is it?

McJim

23rd February 2007, 19:35

what kinda bike is it?

Honda Spada 250

paturoa

23rd February 2007, 19:41

Honda Spada 250

Nice one too (was)

shafty

23rd February 2007, 19:48

hXc, sorry to hear about your biff. I'm so hot on this stuff and strongly agree with Lucy.

What happens so often is the "offender" (for want of a better term) is all nice and apologetic - and a bit hyped at the time, then quickly slides in to denial and starts constructing a defence (or attack) once they've had the influence of friends and parents etc and have gone in to denial mode.

Gone are the days when people say " I'll put my hand up, its my fault, sorry" - and stick to the story.

As a Rep on the road, I carry a digital camera in the car for work - but also for any prangs. If someone hits me, the camera comes out 1st, - before the "hello's, are you all rights" - I have done this, taking pics showing the position of the car, the rego, THE DRIVER (stops the bullshit later as to which disqualified driver it was) . The camera obviously captures the time and date.

Shooting the faces of any witnesses wouldn't hurt either.

Sure you may have insurance, but you'll soon get pisssssssed off as it drags on, no wheels, out of pocket, and The Offender maintains denial, carries on with her normal life knocking Bikers off etc.

So you don't carry a digital? My bet is most people have camera phones. The pics come out not bad when e-mailed to a PC. And as Lucy says, the fact that you are pro active shows them you're serious.

I'd call the Wallopers too, - and drop the "someone said they saw her texting" thing - thay CAn trace that.

Phew, rant finished. Well nearly.

Sounds like your bike is stuffed (RIP). But a quick look after a prang can often result in no damage noticed. Take details anyway. There are untold stories of finding expensive cracks and frame damage later.

One more: A guy from our club on his mint Yamaha Cruiser pulls in to a gas station. A car drives past him, way too close, and runs over his foot. Ouch you may say, - read on. The idiot cage driver BACKS UP, over foot again to try and un do the situation.

So this guy gets treatment, major time in hospital, and I see him in the Mall a year later still on crutches, and ask him "whats the story?" His reply " It gets amputated next week"

Gixxer 4 ever

26th February 2007, 16:46

Let us know when you get the bike home. If she is not going to pay we should pull off the broken bits and see what we can find and get it back on the road. Third party is a problem as it leaves you to fight the insurance company. That is if you can get passed the drive. This sucks.

yungatart

27th February 2007, 18:22

Wolf

27th February 2007, 18:51

Hoo-f'kn-ray. The bitch has admitted liability*, now insurance can go ahead. Hopefully the bullshit will be behind us, and we will get a quick and fair resolution.
* mind you, only after we stressed that court was next step and our ducks were all in a row.
Yeeee-Fkn-Haaaaaa! Glad to hear it. So which of her family had sufficient brain cells to see they would be fucked in court - or did they work it out by communal grunting?

Here's hoping that State, The Oblivious, antes up the moola soon.

You guys should'a' said he was arse-ended by a UFO - according to their publicity, they pay out promply on that...

yungatart

27th February 2007, 18:59

Yeeee-Fkn-Haaaaaa! Glad to hear it. So which of her family had sufficient brain cells to see they would be fucked in court - or did they work it out by communal grunting?

Here's hoping that State, The Oblivious, antes up the moola soon.

You guys should'a' said he was arse-ended by a UFO - according to their publicity, they pay out promply on that...

I have no idea how they worked it out.(TBH, I don't much care how, but I'm glad they did!)
It is odd, cos at 5.30 pm they were denying liability, like there was no tomorrow, Mstrs told State that we would definitely be taking her to court and the papers were prepared already for filing tomorrow, then at 6.30 we got a phone call from State, saying there had been some "miscommunication and confusion" and they were admitting liability.
Seems they want to know, as she has a high excess, wether it would be more economical to pay us out without going through insurance....all I can say is the excess must be f****n ginormous......makes you wonder how many other people this little cow has hit - and how many just gave up and let it lie...

James Deuce

27th February 2007, 19:12

Really pleased to hear that threats of legal action still work.

McJim

27th February 2007, 19:24

Well that's one step forward at least - has the bike shop advised of a price for the damage yet?

yungatart

27th February 2007, 19:28

The mechanic at the bike shop is recommending (just quietly) that it be written off - he is concerned at what an impact of that size does to an alloy frame.

gijoe1313

27th February 2007, 21:24

Ahh bugger, but better the bike being written off than hxc! :yes: Ah well, it's good to hear that some positive progress has been made in regards to this matter!

Now...when does he go shopping for a new ride? :dodge: :innocent:

yungatart

28th February 2007, 07:20

Dare I say it? He's actually looking for a car.....

James Deuce

28th February 2007, 07:21

He's looking for a car for the best reason possible.

Chickadee

28th February 2007, 07:38

About time you guys got some good news regarding that silly moo that ran over Zac (then blamed him!).

Hope you get your money off them soon (not in tiny wee incriments if they're paying themselves).

Couldn't believe the cheek of the family asking you earlier to help pay for the repairs to her bloody car - WTF is up with that!

Lots of love
Chickadee

hXc

28th February 2007, 15:01

Now...when does he go shopping for a new ride?Dare I say it? He's actually looking for a car.....He's looking for a car for the best reason possible.
It's true my oriental friend. A car is indeed what I am now looking to invest money into.

And what Jim says is also correct. It just doesn't make logical sense for a drummer to own a motorcycle ahead of a car. How can one carry his beloved instrument on one's shoulder, when one's beloved instrument is bigger than one's previous motorcycle, and any other motorcyle one might own.

But to me, KB and biking altogether is much like Hotel California. One can check out, but thou can never leave. At this point in time, I've just checked out, but visiting regularly. I have not left the world of two wheels for good, but it may be a while before I enter back into it.

A shame in same ways, but a turn for the better, logically. Anyone have a Telstar wagon or the like? Has to be manual.

ManDownUnder

28th February 2007, 15:05

A shame in same ways, but a turn for the better, logically. Anyone have a Telstar wagon or the like? Has to be manual.

What budget etc? Get thine arse up to Auckland... Ellerslie, every Sunday has a HUGE car fair (http://www.carfair.co.nz/sellers.phtml)... I'll put you up for the night if you want - trundle you down there etc...

Take a looksee at the website - I didn't bother but the thing is huge mate. Complete with onsite mechanical inspections reg, insurance etc

Edit - I found this...Mondeo (http://www.carfair.co.nz/profile2.phtml?id=14014)...?

hXc

28th February 2007, 15:27

What budget etc? Get thine arse up to Auckland... Ellerslie, every Sunday has a HUGE car fair (http://www.carfair.co.nz/sellers.phtml)... I'll put you up for the night if you want - trundle you down there etc...

Edit - I found this...Mondeo (http://www.carfair.co.nz/profile2.phtml?id=14014)...?
Budget would be about $3000 or less. That Mondeo is sweet, but it's auto. Need/want a manual 'cause I haven't sat my restricted yet. Haven't even sat my learners to be honest, but that's besides the point. That site looks ok, might have a bit of a deeper look soon.
Cheers mate.

ManDownUnder

28th February 2007, 15:41

That site looks ok, might have a bit of a deeper look soon.
Cheers mate.

No worries - hey the website isn't even 1/2 of it. The car fiar is bigger than Ben Hur (fucken massive). Failing that we can stop into see FROSTY, or the car yards on Greenlane Road...

Bound to be something.

Or Trademe of course...

hXc

28th February 2007, 15:53

Yeah, been lookin' at tardme. Goo thing with tardme, compared to that site above is that you can search SW's only, under $4000 or whatever.

Will keep looking. Haven't got any money yet, so no point in getting too serious about buying one now.

EDIT: A couple of auctions on watchlist now.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=88999953
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=88974233
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=88504024

crashe

28th February 2007, 16:32

Hxc - Good luck in finding the perfect station wagon for you....

Would a van do, one where you can take the seats out if neccessary.... or leave them in.... depending on how many seats you require.

Finding a manual is harder to find these days...... as many imports are mostly automatic.....

James Deuce

28th February 2007, 16:47

Oddly crashe, it's actually easier to carry drum gear in a vehicle with seats. Despite what people think, the drums themselves are quite fragile, and the last thing you want it a 40kg case full of stands careening into a bass drum during a hard stop.

With the seats in place you can use seatbelts and tie downs to stop everything moving about, and the seat cushions stop the drums from getting damaged in transit. I've had a wooden snare drum demolished by Air NZ. It was in an SKB hard case, and the case wasn't all that damaged, but the drum inside was smashed beyond belief. It had been dropped 40ft out of a storage unit.

gijoe1313

28th February 2007, 16:52

It's true my oriental friend. A car is indeed what I am now looking to invest money into.
.......

But to me, KB and biking altogether is much like Hotel California. One can check out, but thou can never leave. At this point in time, I've just checked out, but visiting regularly. I have not left the world of two wheels for good, but it may be a while before I enter back into it.

A shame in same ways, but a turn for the better, logically. Anyone have a Telstar wagon or the like? Has to be manual.

You have a sensible head on your shoulders. Damn, I think an old soul got into you and you still need to have two wheels somewhere to ride ( even if it's just a pushy :msn-wink: ), wasn't too long ago I remember you trying to vault parking meters and other such young shenanigans!

Good luck on finding four wheels of convinience! But, betcha every time you see a bike on the road - you'll feel the need to "twist the wrist!"

On ya fella, wish more young people were like you!

hXc

28th February 2007, 16:57

*Snip* wasn't too long ago I remember you trying to vault parking meters and other such young shenanigans!Well there is the other side of things...

How many girls can you fit comfortably on a motorcycle? And how can you annoy old people with loud 'hooligan' music on a motorcycle?

It's not just the instrument I play that has put me in this direction you know. Being a teenage male has helped too.:innocent:

hXc

28th February 2007, 16:58

Would a van do, one where you can take the seats out if neccessary.... or leave them in.... depending on how many seats you require.Nah don't want a van. Partly 'cause the reason that Jim2 mentioned, and partly 'cause the reason that most of them are gutless wonders and gas guzzlers.

Wolf

28th February 2007, 17:05

How many girls can you fit comfortably on a motorcycle?
"Enough", I would have thought. How many were you planning on bonking at once?

Scorpygirl

28th February 2007, 17:08

Wolf

28th February 2007, 17:10

plus your drumkit in one of the panniers!!! :gob: :laugh:
You could probably fit a drum kit in one of the fecking glove boxes...

yungatart

28th February 2007, 17:16

I am really pleased that this is finally being sorted with the stupid cow!!! :shit: HxC - You are right - you can't leave!!! Good luck with the SW. You can always get a GoldWing - you can crank up the stereo on that and scare the neighbours. I am sure you could fit at least two girls on it plus your drumkit in one of the panniers!!! :gob: :laugh:

You could probably fit a drum kit in one of the fecking glove boxes...

Have you seen the size of his kit??????? (drum kit, that is)
It barely fits in my Berlina wagon.

Scorpygirl

28th February 2007, 17:19

You could probably fit a drum kit in one of the fecking glove boxes...

Yes, Rhino actually carries the whole of the NZSO in the top box!!! :shit

......on CD that is! :)

Wolf

28th February 2007, 17:30

Have you seen the size of his kit???????
No. I'll pass, thanks.

It barely fits in my Berlina wagon.
Crikey, no wonder he wants a car :devil2:

No, wait, I just reread your post. Oops...

9cents

28th February 2007, 17:58

Good to hear you're all in one piece, 'tis a shame about the bike :(
I've always had a concern for getting sandwiched in between cars at the lights by someone coming up behind, developed a habit of checking behind me when pulling up and leaving a bit of space so I can blip forwards if needed.
Anyways ride safe and rock on :Punk:

McJim

28th February 2007, 18:23

I think you should screw 'em for every penny you can and get a car and an RG150!

But then that's my opinion....and we all know the story about opinions!

yungatart

28th February 2007, 18:30

I think you should screw 'em for every penny you can and get a car and an RG150!

But then that's my opinion....and we all know the story about opinions!

Yeah, they are just like armpits - everyone has at least two and they both stink....oooops, no, that's excuses......
as you were folks:innocent:

paturoa

28th February 2007, 18:39

Yeah, they are just like armpits - everyone has at least two and they both stink....oooops, no, that's excuses......
as you were folks:innocent:

Then again you could sink all the loot into a cage, and make up several excuses to borrow the wrinklie's bikes at regular intervals.

hXc

28th February 2007, 19:39

Then again you could sink all the loot into a cage, and make up several excuses to borrow the wrinklie's bikes at regular intervals.That could work, except the money I get from insurance will go back to 'the wrinklies' to pay them back the, as it stands, $5208 loan. They will then buy a car, it will be their car, but I use it and pay for maintenance etc. When I go off to MAINZ and finish my diplomas/certificates, I get the car.

Oh, and Mum's bike is 'fine' for getting around town on, but not for me to ride on the open road etc.
And the GSXR...Dad would kill me slowly, causing as much pain as possible if I ever took that out.

McJim

28th February 2007, 20:03

And the GSXR...Dad would kill me slowly, causing as much pain as possible if I ever took that out.

Yep - I remember the look on his face when you just turned over the engine in the Garage :gob: priceless!

Wolf

28th February 2007, 20:32

Yep - I remember the look on his face when you just turned over the engine in the Garage :gob: priceless!
Must've had a lasting impression on him - he didn't get closer to the "Wanton Hussy" than a respectful 3 metres when we last saw him...

Insanity_rules

1st March 2007, 08:03

That could work, except the money I get from insurance will go back to 'the wrinklies' to pay them back the, as it stands, $5208 loan. They will then buy a car, it will be their car, but I use it and pay for maintenance etc. When I go off to MAINZ and finish my diplomas/certificates, I get the car.

Oh, and Mum's bike is 'fine' for getting around town on, but not for me to ride on the open road etc.
And the GSXR...Dad would kill me slowly, causing as much pain as possible if I ever took that out.

I remember the first time I was allowed to borrow my (foster) Dads bike, a newish at the time GS550 Suzuki. First was the disbelief, then the acceptance that he wasn't pulling my leg, the excitement and the graphic extruded description of what he'd do to me if I dropped it and was at fault. I seem to remember red hot teaspoons, a camp stove, bamboo, fire ants, the next door neighbours VERY over weight daughter, a medieval mace and a rubber mallet being mentioned.

MSTRS

1st March 2007, 08:10

No rack or thumbscrews? Pshaw!!

paturoa

1st March 2007, 08:22

Must've had a lasting impression on him - he didn't get closer to the "Wanton Hussy" than a respectful 3 metres when we last saw him...

surely he is allowed to clean it?

shafty

1st March 2007, 10:04

I remember the first time I was allowed to borrow my (foster) Dads bike, a newish at the time GS550 Suzuki. First was the disbelief, then the acceptance that he wasn't pulling my leg, the excitement and the graphic extruded description of what he'd do to me if I dropped it and was at fault. I seem to remember red hot teaspoons, a camp stove, bamboo, fire ants, the next door neighbours VERY over weight daughter, a medieval mace and a rubber mallet being mentioned.

What a classic - made ME laugh!! Cheers

terbang

1st March 2007, 10:28

Hah yeah my old man had an AG 100 and it was Verboten for me to touch. It stopped on him one day down the back and he went back to his horse. After a couple of weeks of negotiation the deal was that if I could fix it then I was allowed to ride it. I switched the fuel onto reserve and told him some sort of complicated story as to what was wrong and he kept his end of the deal though he often complained about it's deteriorating condition from there on.

Wolf

1st March 2007, 11:06

yungatart

1st March 2007, 16:16

surely he is allowed to clean it?

No way! Cleaning bikes is MY job!
I do it so well, you see.....silly cow, that I am...

MSTRS

1st March 2007, 17:02

No way! Cleaning bikes is MY job!
I do it so well, you see.....silly cow, that I am...

:violin: :violin: :violin:

MSTRS

5th March 2007, 14:14

This is a red-letter-day!! Insurance came through, a very reasonable market determination and we can 'buy back' at a friendly price too (less than the brand new Sport Demon fitted the day before it got arse-holed).
Anyone else that finds themselves in a similar situation....STICK TO YOUR GUNS. It worked for us.

paturoa

5th March 2007, 14:35

well done!

Is it repairable?

do u know what happened to the biarch?

MSTRS

5th March 2007, 14:37

Dunno what the frame is like (was always gonna be a guess, there) but for the rest of it...repairable, if not pretty, or I know where there is another wreck which has most of the damaged parts in OK nick

Wolf

5th March 2007, 14:39

So he'll be getting his car and the Spada in going condition?

yungatart

5th March 2007, 15:14

We certainly are hoping so Wolf.
I can imagine that hXc without a bike to go for a blat on would rapidly become a somewhat horrible person... more horrible than he is now, I mean :innocent:
If we can help him into a car and provide a bike, that is, if not flash, at least ok, then we will.
He will still owe us some $$$, but 'tis only money, right??

Wolf

5th March 2007, 21:26

We certainly are hoping so Wolf.
I can imagine that hXc without a bike to go for a blat on would rapidly become a somewhat horrible person... more horrible than he is now, I mean :innocent:
Gods forfend! :gob:

He will still owe us some $$$, but 'tis only money, right??
Very handy for him to owe you money...

Gives you a bit of leverage when "Look, I carried you for 40 weeks, fed you, clothed you..." doesn't work any more.

:devil2: