Kids and porn on internet...

[cowboyz]

I was late back from work this afternoon and my 12 year old was home alone for about half an hour. He was playing round on the PC when I got in. he looked kinda guilty about something when I walked in so I asked him what he was doing. he said watching music videos online.

I had a quick look through the history and it shows that he typed "free porn" into google and then surfed quite a few porn websites.

How would you approach this?

I am waiting for his mother to get home.

[merv]

I suspect in this day and age you aint going to stop it, but somehow just try and make sure he also learns respect for others.

[Lissa]

Hmm luckly my eight year old doesnt even know what porn is.

I wouldnt directly tell him that you found out that he was looking at porn, so you dont embarrass him. I would just bring the subject up casually telling him your thoughts on the matter.... well I think thats what I would do anyway.

[doc]

Hmm luckly my eight year old doesnt even know what porn is.


You sure about that ?

[Coyote]

As that ad for that merkican sitcom said: "Gimme 5 lil' pimp"

Bring up in a conversation with your wife saying you should regulary check the internet history, making sure he overhears. It might scare him off, or get him to learn to cover his tracks

[Mom]

Approach low and slow..........he? is obviously curious, the media and by virtue of them, his peers make it almost impossible to not have a peek to find out what it is all about. IMHO 12 y/o's are more curious than anything else. A quiet word about what you dont want to find on your computer may hopefully lead to some healthy discussion between you about what is ok and what is not, the good and the bad............just dont over react is my advice.......good luck!

[Nasty]

Net nanny and other systems are available to help/assist with the issue of what kids go into on the net ... check out those things.

[Coyote]

Hmm luckly my eight year old doesnt even know what porn is.
Highhhly unlikely in this damn age

Unless you're raising your kid like my parents raised me. Didn't have a clue what the kids at school were talking about as I had never seen the American Pie movies and shit, and I got teased for it. I still get told I'm too young to hear what people are talking about despite them being virgins and I'm not

[NighthawkNZ]

I am waiting for his mother to get home.

Thats a good start let her deal with... oh and at least it was free porn and no credit card involved... ;)

Seriously hes getting to that age where he is starting to get interested and or wanting to know about that stuff... So you need to have to talk to him about it, be open, and answer his questions, and explain the dangers.

Software wise you can look at Net nanny or something similar.

I assume the puter is in the lounge where every one can see, (I don't recommend letting kids have computers in there room especially with internet access)

[Mom]

Hmm luckly my eight year old doesnt even know what porn is.



I have had the experience of my little kids googling? (sp) "sticky tv" and bringing up some amazing shit online.....you can not be too careful....as kids get older they will go looking, shit we make a big enough fuss about it, they cant help looking, it is all about talking to them really......good luck for the people with younger than mine kids........

[Clivoris]

Oooh. That's a dilemna alright mate. I'd be talking with him in a fairly straight-up, non-punitive way. It's probably worth acknowledging his natural curiosity but letting him know what your family boundaries, and expectation are around porn. Think about what you want. If you have any ideas about what age he can start making his own decisions about this, let him know. If he has questions, let him know that you are willing to answer them for him (if you are). If you have reasons why you don't like him looking at porn, let him know. Chances are though that he will access porn somehow, but the least he can do is smarten up and not get caught.
Good luck.

[cowboyz]

Yes the computer is in the lounge room and it is MY computer. The kids rarely use it especially when I am home.

Explain the dangers? Like read the fine print. A movie and coffee down and the rest of your paychecks for life?

[Ixion]

You sure about that ?

Slow developer.

[doc]

I was late back from work this afternoon and my 12 year old was home alone for about half an hour. He was playing round on the PC when I got in. he looked kinda guilty about something when I walked in so I asked him what he was doing. he said watching music videos online.

I had a quick look through the history and it shows that he typed "free porn" into google and then surfed quite a few porn websites.

How would you approach this?

I am waiting for his mother to get home.
Here is Professional opinion from someone who knows. Maybe what you should do is manage this situation, this is normal behaviour, the kid has to negotiate his way around what is acceptable and what is not, 12 year old boy's have always looked at Playboy's, today there is far more available. If you as a man have managed your kids effectively he will know what is right or wrong himself, find a way to guide him you have to find the middle ground and learn to talk to him. "If all else fails let his mother deal with it." (That her just being her usual bitch). Right thats the wife"s opinion and take it from me she is the one to listen to . I however would like to know were these sites any good and do they cost much

[cowboyz]

Oooh. That's a dilemna alright mate. I'd be talking with him in a fairly straight-up, non-punitive way. It's probably worth acknowledging his natural curiosity but letting him know what your family boundaries, and expectation are around porn. Think about what you want. If you have any ideas about what age he can start making his own decisions about this, let him know. If he has questions, let him know that you are willing to answer them for him (if you are). If you have reasons why you don't like him looking at porn, let him know. Chances are though that he will access porn somehow, but the least he can do is smarten up and not get caught.
Good luck.

yeah. I think we will be chatting if his mother ever makes an apperance.

I have never been interested in porn to be honest. I haven't ever seen a porn movie but just kinda think it would be frustrating. A little liken to sitting on your bike with the keys in the igintion watching other people ride. That just me though.

[James Deuce]

Guess what? Too late!

There are a bunch of parental controls built into IE and Firefox. My kids can't go anywhere I don't let them and it is password controlled and they have their own limited profiles on a shared PC in a public space (the lounge).

Genie's out of the bottle now so you'll have to do the "speech" and discuss limits and start of by establishing a trust relationship with consequences if the trust is broken.

[Mom]

Yes the computer is in the lounge room and it is MY computer. The kids rarely use it especially when I am home.

Explain the dangers? Like read the fine print. A movie and coffee down and the rest of your paychecks for life?

You can have all the protection in place and he will still find a way if you make it a HUGE thing, he will probably still find a way......shit we have all been exposed to porn.........whether you like it or loath it makes no difference...talk to the lad, quietly and dont embarrass him!!!!!!!!!! You young fellas really hate that :shutup:

If you are really concerned do what I did when mine would not get off the puter when i wanted them too.........password the thing so they cant use it!

They have to ask me if I will log them on......best of all the password for one logon is ......"askmom" go figure that.......LOL

[doc]

yeah. I think we will be chatting if his mother ever makes an apperance.

I have never been interested in porn to be honest. I haven't ever seen a porn movie but just kinda think it would be frustrating. A little liken to sitting on your bike with the keys in the igintion watching other people ride. That just me though.
Second opinion close your internet account and show him your stash of "PLAYBOYS"

[pixc]

I caught my 11 year old looking at unexceptable content. I talked to him about it. Told him that I knew what he had been looking at (he went bright red) we talked about why its there, and why its adult content, why i didnt like him looking at it, how serious i thought it was, the consequences of him going there again ( he will go cross-eyed and his testicles will grow the size of basktballs and everyone will know..jk) We are an open, very matter-of-factual family. A penis is a penis..not a willy or diddle.

PC in office is now off limits to the kids but still have access to the one in family room. ...I also had issues with the amazing disappearing wine and bourbon. But i think i narrowed that saga down to the 14 year old.

..and can someone tell me this. I believe I have a right to read my daughters (14 yo) txts when i feel like it ...much to her disgust and horror. Where is that line between being a concerned parent and invading privacy? How old before it becomes invasion of privacy?

[MSTRS]

Oooh. That's a dilemna alright mate. I'd be talking with him in a fairly straight-up, non-punitive way. It's probably worth acknowledging his natural curiosity but letting him know what your family boundaries, and expectation are around porn. Think about what you want. If you have any ideas about what age he can start making his own decisions about this, let him know. If he has questions, let him know that you are willing to answer them for him (if you are). If you have reasons why you don't like him looking at porn, let him know. Chances are though that he will access porn somehow, but the least he can do is smarten up and not get caught.
Good luck.

Good advice. And add a password to Windows

[MSTRS]

..and can someone tell me this. I believe I have a right to read my daughters txts when i feel like it...much to her disgust and horror. Where is that line between being a concerned parent and invading privacy? How old before it becomes invasion of privacy?

Who pays for the phone? If it's your daughter, then she probably has the right to privacy there.

[pixc]

Who pays for the phone? .

I do, I paid for the phone and she gets $20 credit a month.
All courtesy of the home of Valda-rama-vander-smurfin-housin

[mstriumph]

no point in mentioning it - you've raised him properly and he'll know what's acceptable and what's not without you belabouring the point
....................................
but act immediately
parental control software
limited profile
password protect
(he'll know why without you saying - but if he does come over all innocent and ask, just smile and say 'security']
..........................
yes, he will probably try and access it elsewhere sooner or later but that's pretty normal and there's a strong case for not making it easy for him to do what you'd prefer he didn't do [or didn't do just yet anyway]


as a child i was always permitted free access to whatever i wanted to read ... but the internet has given straightforward bawdiness a deeper, more sinister dimension - perhaps depicting stuff you'd not find in print and which could cause real harm if a curious 8 year old stumbles onto it unaware ........ i'd be erring on the side of caution at the moment.

[doc]

I caught my 11 year old looking at unexceptable content. I talked to him about it. Told him that I knew what he had been looking at (he went bright red) we talked about why its there, and why its adult content, why i didnt like him looking at it, how serious i thought it was, the consequences of him going there again ( he will go cross-eyed and his testicles will grow the size of basktballs and everyone will know..jk) We are an open, very matter-of-factual family. A penis is a penis..not a willy or diddle.

PC in office is now off limits to the kids but still have access to the one in family room. ...I also had issues with the amazing disappearing wine and bourbon. But i think i narrowed that saga down to the 14 year old.

..and can someone tell me this. I believe I have a right to read my daughters (14 yo) txts when i feel like it ...much to her disgust and horror. Where is that line between being a concerned parent and invading privacy? How old before it becomes invasion of privacy?You have got it so wrong the 11 yr old is into the bourbon and mum is a pervert cos she want's to read teeny bopper txt's. I know this sitting here with large testicles and cross eyed vison you didn't mention deaf.

[cowboyz]

..and can someone tell me this. I believe I have a right to read my daughters (14 yo) txts when i feel like it ...much to her disgust and horror. Where is that line between being a concerned parent and invading privacy? How old before it becomes invasion of privacy?

the moment they get a job and move out.

[cowboyz]

had a chat to him.
I started by asking him if he was aware of my computer knowledge.
He said yes.
I asked him if he was aware that I could tell what he was doing on the internet.
He said no.
I asked him if he was worried.
He said yes.
I asked why.
He said cause he was looking up porn cause the kids at school were talking about it and he wanted to see what the deal was.
I asked if he found anything.
He said only disgusting womans bits and stuff.

I knew he was gay.

I

[bobsmith]

Ummmm teach your kid how to use the computer properly so you don't find out about it afterwards???

Hmmm... Like someone else said, if you don't want it to happen again try a program like net nanny or whatever there are lots of them around.

[Lissa]

I have had the experience of my little kids googling? (sp) "sticky tv" and bringing up some amazing shit online.....you can not be too careful....as kids get older they will go looking, shit we make a big enough fuss about it, they cant help looking, it is all about talking to them really......good luck for the people with younger than mine kids........
Ahhh well he has only just turned eight…. He uses google to look up dinosaurs mostly, haven’t caught him looking at anything else. I’m sure he’s going to pick up things from school at some stage, should prob have a little talk with him sooner rather than later.

[NighthawkNZ]

Search engines are good, but can be bad... you can get porn on 99% of your searches will return porn somewhere in the listing... even the most innocent search

[cowboyz]

actually we went on to discuss repect for woman and respect for others in general. About what type of person he wants to be and what he is willing to do to get there. Interesting few years this will be.

[Aero165]

The internet was build for porn. PERIOD! The safest way to make sure this never happens again would be to burn your PC!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645

[Dave Lobster]

the moment they get a job and move out.

+1. :yes:

Is there anyone here who didn't try to shoplift porn mags when they were 12? Anyone who didn't watch all the Porkys films round at a mate's house when they were 12?

[mstriumph]

+1. :yes:

Is there anyone here who didn't try to shoplift porn mags when they were 12? Anyone who didn't watch all the Porkys films round at a mate's house when they were 12?

me

i didn't

still don't

have just never been able to get into sex as a spectator sport .... mebbe its a bloke thingy .......

[avgas]

let him have his porn. just tell him about the trojans and viruses of the sex trade.

[Street Gerbil]

Install netnanny and watch his frustration as he goes through memory dumps trying to locate and nop the password protection. If he manages that in less than a week, you are in big trouble, bro.

[Toaster]

Send him to Dover for punishment with a dead cat, some peanut butter, your latest bank statement and a ravenous Alaskan bred dog. I swear your boy will never do it again.

[Toaster]

The internet was build for porn. PERIOD! The safest way to make sure this never happens again would be to burn your PC!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645

Shove a big bag of Mentos mints into the PC and pour a big bottle of coke through it.

[Colapop]

I think you've handled the situation well. No sense in getting on his case - "YOU fucking little prevert...etc" That'd be great - give him a complex make siure he feels dirty and bad about sex.
Kids have more information about so much shit these days that education must start in the home. Parents set moral boundaries and teach kids the rights and wrongs (according to them) If more parents took an active interest in what their kids were doing there'd be a lot less kids in trouble with the law.

[paturoa]

I think you've all missed the point. He lied.

So, he obviously knew what he was doing was wrong, telling him that it was wrong, serves no purpose.

You need to first and foremost address the lie (about watching music vids).

[cowboyz]

actually he did watch a couple of music videos. He knows I don't approve.

[Ixion]

I think you've all missed the point. He lied.

So, he obviously knew what he was doing was wrong, telling him that it was wrong, serves no purpose.

You need to first and foremost address the lie (about watching music vids).

he's horny, not stupid.

[Mr. Peanut]

He clearly understands his boundries.

Free porn only.

[scumdog]

I think you've all missed the point. He lied.

So, he obviously knew what he was doing was wrong, telling him that it was wrong, serves no purpose.

You need to first and foremost address the lie (about watching music vids).



I agree, give hime some talking to in a nice way about not looking up porn crap at his age - but give him a reaming out about the lie.:yes:

[chanceyy]

had a chat to him.
I started by asking him if he was aware of my computer knowledge.
He said yes.
I asked him if he was aware that I could tell what he was doing on the internet.
He said no.
I asked him if he was worried.
He said yes.
I asked why.
He said cause he was looking up porn cause the kids at school were talking about it and he wanted to see what the deal was.
I asked if he found anything.
He said only disgusting womans bits and stuff.

I knew he was gay.

I



well said ,..... its these kinda conversations that you feel your way ... ahh the joys of parenting .. its not easy & at times frustrating .. but man it must be rewarding as well

well done cowboyz .. for stepping up to the plate & being a dad .. bling awarded

these days there is not enough credit to those guys who are outstanding dads & really get on board with parenting their kids ..

[SuperDave]

Go buy him a playboy and tell him to use that instead of wasting you bandwidth and slowing your computer down with spyware / raping your credit card with with membership charges.

Alternatively, teach him to more creative than 'free porn'.

[Ixion]

'Tis a wonderful thing, the indernewt. When i was that age , y'had to go get your haircut to get a perve (an y always wondered why kids back in them days always had such short hair, didn't y' ) . Now you can get your jollies in the comfort of your own home.Must be a bugger for the barbers , though.

[Ixion]

Alternatively, teach him to more creative than 'free porn'.

Yes, I think you need to have a serious talk to him about search terms. His vocabulary seems stunted.

[pritch]

I have no kids so I don't have these problems, and am not ungrateful.

I would expect a boy to be curious about such things. Certainly I'd rather he looked at pictures of girls than the KKK website or some of the other hate sites kids round here were looking at a while back.

I liked scumdogs idea, pass on the porn but punish the lie.

[Pixie]

yeah. I think we will be chatting if his mother ever makes an apperance.

I have never been interested in porn to be honest. I haven't ever seen a porn movie but just kinda think it would be frustrating. A little liken to sitting on your bike with the keys in the igintion watching other people ride. That just me though.

But you can rev the crap out of it while you watch

[Fat Tony]

I haven't really looked in to parental controls and Net Nanny and the likes yet, but it's something I'm going to have to do soon. My daughter's homework this week was to research a childrens author... of course it just happened to be 'Dick King Smith'

I made sure I sat with her when she did the Google search. I was quite suprised at how clean the results were though, well done Google :)

[Hillbilly]

Go to: "Control Panel", click on "Internet Options", select the 4th tab "Content", and click "Enable" for the Content Advisor". On the first tab "ratings, make sure every choice ie. "sexual material" & "nudity" have the
slider set to as far left as it will go. Then set an "Supervisor password" on the "general" tab that only you and your partner/wife know. Problem solved.

Junior's attempts to search for any porn will land him at Disney!

[jrandom]

I'm with Jim2 on this one. Full controls and supervision on any interweb access for the kids.

No point making their lives unpleasant if you catch them out doing what kids (well, boys) have always done, but they do need protecting. Net pr0n isn't Playboy; I really don't want my son developing an obsession with anal intercourse and facial ejaculations.

And be aware, folks, that you need to set up access control software properly, or your 13-year-old will simply bypass it as soon as you're out of the room. Typically, the default installation doesn't achieve this. Get a tame geek to do it for you if necessary.

[Edbear]

I wouldnt directly tell him that you found out that he was looking at porn, so you dont embarrass him. I would just bring the subject up casually telling him your thoughts on the matter.... well I think thats what I would do anyway.



Actually, telling him how easy it is to find out exactly where he's been and that he cannot hide his "trails" may be more of a deterrent. I agree, talk to him about how you feel about this and set firm guidelines that you expect to be adhered to.

It may be a good time to sit with him and discuss the subject in general as at 12 he's beginning puberty and his thoughts and feelings are going to be in some turmoil for several years, now. He's probably not going to know whether he's Arthur or Martha, or which way is up at times!

[PuppetMaster]

I am waiting for his mother to get home.


You answered your own question.


An alternative answer might be....you and the missus make a porn video, post it onto the net, make it so the little rascal finds the vid and sees it, Im sure this will put him off porn, seeing his parents nekid and sweaty....
Alternatively, invest in some software like net nanny etc.

[Finn]

Look on the bright side. At least he's not gay.

He's perfectly normal and is doing what comes natural to him. Make a big deal of it and it will backfire on you. Remember the first time you woke up, felt funny and thought, "this is new - cool." Well, it's his turn now.

[Edbear]

Look on the bright side. At least he's not gay.
He's perfectly normal ...



Good point, too. Assuring him he's perfectly normal is important and that he's going to be curious about a lot of stuff from now on and will experience a lot of confusion and mixed emotions can open the way for good communication. Our kids knew they could talk to us about anything without judgement which made it easier for them to accept and understand our standards.

Despite what kids say, especially as teenagers, they do respect their parents deep down and need to know they are understood and loved unconditionally. Much of the aggro is hormonal and can be passed over, though not always easy in the heat of the moment.

We did a lot of bushwalking with ours and the fresh air, scenery, (been up Mt. Pirongia?), and exercise was as good as Prozac without the side effects. Lead to a lot of close communication about all sorts of subjects.

[Swoop]

Mostly all said in the thread above, but...

Sit down with your kids and explain that they will have free use of the machine (obviously in a public area of the lounge) - BUT you will sit down with them once a fortnight/week and go through the history file with them and then clear the history file.
They need to comprehend that they will need to answer for all of the sites that have been visited.
Also explain that if you find the history file tampered with or cleared, the trust has been broken and access to the internet will be removed/rationed/monitored/etc.

This method can work quite well.

[Macktheknife]

Sounds like you have opened well there cowboy, and it is promising to note that he came out with the truth fairly smartly. Focus on the bigger issues is the way to go, he is going to go through heaps of changes and confusion (as I'm sure you can remember some of) and laying good foundations for communication will be needed if not already established. Curiosity level is normal, hiding the behaviour is also normal, the next couple of years should be interesting! Good luck.

[The Stranger]

How would you approach this?


You should be proud of him.
Healthy curiosity, resourceful, interested in women.
Just a regular healthy young man.
Think yourself lucky



I am waiting for his mother to get home.


Ha ha.
You not allowed to make decisions on your own?

[The_Dover]

Net pr0n isn't Playboy; I really don't want my son developing an obsession with anal intercourse and facial ejaculations.

And be aware, folks, that you need to set up access control software properly, or your 13-year-old will simply bypass it as soon as you're out of the room. Typically, the default installation doesn't achieve this. Get a tame geek to do it for you if necessary.

who says you need the internet for that shit? you and I developed that quite well without it.

give him porn, let him wank himself into a frenzy, what's the big deal?

[jrandom]

give him porn, let him wank himself into a frenzy, what's the big deal?

No big deal. Give him porn by all means, but there's porn, and then there's porn, and there's a lot of really fucked-up, misogynistic shit on the internet. I, for one, don't want my boy exposed to that point of view until he's old enough to know better.

13-year-olds aren't old enough to know better.

I'd be quite tempted to just get him a Playboy subscription. If he kept every issue, he'd probably have a valuable collection after 10 years.

[The_Dover]

there's a lot of really fucked-up, misogynistic shit on the internet.

give him a head start in life, expose him to the truth.

At least then he wont waste his teenage years worrying about what bitches think of him and can go out and do proper bloke stuff and focus on what he wants.

[cowboyz]

Sounds like you have opened well there cowboy, and it is promising to note that he came out with the truth fairly smartly. Focus on the bigger issues is the way to go, he is going to go through heaps of changes and confusion (as I'm sure you can remember some of) and laying good foundations for communication will be needed if not already established. Curiosity level is normal, hiding the behaviour is also normal, the next couple of years should be interesting! Good luck.

I cant remember. I still a virgin.

I had to laugh. His mothers first response (not in from of the boy) was " oh my god.. my babys growing up!!!!"


You should be proud of him.
Healthy curiosity, resourceful, interested in women.
Just a regular healthy young man.
Think yourself lucky



Ha ha.
You not allowed to make decisions on your own?

I make all the decisions in my household. I am the king of the castle. Every minute detail has to be passed by me. I am so powerful. My wife told me so.. I just had to check with her.

[Beemer]

I'd be quite tempted to just get him a Playboy subscription. If he kept every issue, he'd probably have a valuable collection after 10 years.

Yes, but are they worth anything in a *ahem* used condition? Or do stuck together pages add to their value?

[Hitcher]

I've heard that porn is OK, if you don't inhale...

[slinky]

I was late back from work this afternoon and my 12 year old was home alone for about half an hour. He was playing round on the PC when I got in. he looked kinda guilty about something when I walked in so I asked him what he was doing. he said watching music videos online.

I had a quick look through the history and it shows that he typed "free porn" into google and then surfed quite a few porn websites.

How would you approach this?

I am waiting for his mother to get home.

let him be

[avgas]

he did the Google search. I was quite suprised at how clean the results were though, well done Google :)

filter must have been on....back in 95 i did a search for 'pawn' for school......no filters and it was funny wot came up

[jrandom]

At least then he wont waste his teenage years worrying about what bitches think of him...

I wish there was a magic pill that'd do that for my boy, but I suspect that that stage is just something we all have to go through. I certainly did, and I don't think anything but time fixed it.

I mean, if we didn't go through those years of fractured self-image and abject, secretive worship of the unattainable pussy, we'd never develop a proper healthy fear and loathing of the female species, now, would we?

And then what would become of human civilisation, eh? Down the fucking gurgler, mate. Down the fucking gurgler.

Gotta maintain tradition.

[mstriumph]

No big deal. ....................
I'd be quite tempted to just get him a Playboy subscription. If he kept every issue, he'd probably have a valuable collection after 10 years.

....... and some of the cartoons are really funny.....

[MD]

I had a quick look through the history and it shows that he typed "free porn" into google and then surfed quite a few porn websites.

How would you approach this?

I am waiting for his mother to get home.

Add them to your 'Favorites' Saves a lot of time searching .

But seriously, the Net has raised the bar to a different level of porn since the days when every Lad nicked a Playboy from the corner dairy -and yes every lad did do that.

[sidecar bob]

Add them to your 'Favorites' Saves a lot of time searching .

But seriously, the Net has raised the bar to a different level of porn since the days when every Lad nicked a Playboy from the corner dairy -and yes every lad did do that.

And if im not mistaken, People are having a bit more fun than five minutes in the missonary once a month these days too.
Define normal for me.

[sidecar bob]

[QUOTE=Fish;929146]I'm with Jim2 on this one. Full controls and supervision on any interweb access for the kids.

Net pr0n isn't Playboy; I really don't want my son developing an obsession with anal intercourse and facial ejaculations.

It wont nesacarily develop into an obsession, but he needs to know its not warped or odd to want to poke some chick in the ass or blow all over her face. In fact, some quite like the idea.
What will fuck him up is if he thinks hes the only sicko that wants to do it.

[Krusti]

I have never been interested in porn to be honest. I haven't ever seen a porn movie but just kinda think it would be frustrating. A little liken to sitting on your bike with the keys in the igintion watching other people ride. That just me though.

I like that.... very good.

[avgas]

be thankful he didnt search for 'pimp my ride'. He might actually find bling attractive, smut is so much better than bling

[sidecar bob]

yeah. I think we will be chatting if his mother ever makes an apperance.

I have never been interested in porn to be honest. I haven't ever seen a porn movie but just kinda think it would be frustrating. A little liken to sitting on your bike with the keys in the igintion watching other people ride. That just me though.

Cowboyz. Have you never been to a Moto GP?

[nickchilli]

its possible to set the parental control settings on your p.c... so it limits what he sees ,

[The Pastor]

where is the child porn?

[Bonez]

its possible to set the parental control settings on your p.c... so it limits what he sees ,That'll limit cowboyz veiwing as well. :yes:

[doc]

when every Lad nicked a Playboy from the corner dairy -and yes every lad did do that.

I did not . I used the money I earned from stealing from milk bottles.

[cowboyz]

Cowboyz. Have you never been to a Moto GP?

yes. But that is to watch guys do something better than I can do myself. I asked my wife and she tells me that there is no one better............... therefore.............

[Storm]

And thats why you married her eh?

[sidecar bob]

yes. But that is to watch guys do something better than I can do myself. I asked my wife and she tells me that there is no one better............... therefore.............

She tells me that too dude, She must be lying too one of us, :2thumbsup

[Oakie]

yes. But that is to watch guys do something better than I can do myself. I asked my wife and she tells me that there is no one better............... therefore.............

Oakie wonders to himself. "In these circumstances would you rather be the 'no one better' out of a group of one or a group of a hundred".:dodge: :whistle: :scratch:

[boostin]

Just send him to this thread and get him to read through it. Problem solved.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=43674

[cowboyz]

Oakie wonders to himself. "In these circumstances would you rather be the 'no one better' out of a group of one or a group of a hundred".:dodge: :whistle: :scratch:

Yeah.... It was one of those.. I clicked on after I had posted. Makes my wife sounds like a slapper. Lets just hope she doesn't read this one.:nono:

[Coyote]

No big deal. Give him porn by all means, but there's porn, and then there's porn, and there's a lot of really fucked-up, misogynistic shit on the internet. I, for one, don't want my boy exposed to that point of view until he's old enough to know better.

13-year-olds aren't old enough to know better.

Despite having no control over what I could search up whilst the parents weren't home, I haven't turned into a mysogynistic shit

If anything has fucked me up, it was my parents teaching me "It's ok to cry". No it fucking isn't!

[jrandom]

Despite having no control over what I could search up whilst the parents weren't home, I haven't turned into a mysogynistic shit...

I'm not saying it's inevitable. I'm saying it's better if 15-year-old boys aren't given the impression that all women harbour a deep desire to take cocks up the arse and swallow ejaculate.

It's not that women aren't mindless sex objects; it's that one gets more action by pretending that they're real human beings who matter.


If anything has fucked me up, it was my parents teaching me "It's ok to cry".

Jesus. What a pair of hippies. I hope you've wised up by now and taken a fucking hard pill.

The only useful male emotional states are anger and stoic detachment.

[Kyle]

All those posts and not one mention of Ten lashs and down into the salt mine without any supper.
but seriously, dont worry about the porn, worry abut what else he has picked up at school, drugs are a far bigger danger these days.

[Coyote]

It's not that women aren't mindless sex objects; it's that one gets more action by pretending that they're real human beings who matter.


Jesus. What a pair of hippies. I hope you've wised up by now and taken a fucking hard pill.

The only useful male emotional states are anger and stoic detachment.
It's only worked once for me so far. Then again most girls my age don't want a man that cares, they really do harbour a deep desire to take cocks up the arse and swallow ejaculate. The rest that aren't are generally ugly and want to hang onto any guy that gives a damn.

And yes, I have wised up. However I don't think I'll be able to shake off the label of 'emo' unless I finally move to Italy and work for Pinanferina.

And I have plenty of anger. In fact I pretty much hate everything

[The_Dover]

most girls my age don't want a man that cares, they really do harbour a deep desire to take cocks up the arse and swallow ejaculate

i'm in the wrong town..

[jrandom]

... most girls my age don't want a man that cares, they really do harbour a deep desire to take cocks up the arse and swallow ejaculate.

No, they don't really want cocks up arse and semen down throat. They're just not attracted to you, because you're small and pasty and whingy. Try being large and hairy and gruff instead. Smoke cigars, pump iron, get a fake tan. Wear Brylcreem. Modulate your anger with stoic detachment.

[Coyote]

No, they don't really want cocks up arse and semen down throat. They're just not attracted to you, because you're small and pasty and whingy. Try being large and hairy and gruff instead. Smoke cigars, pump iron, get a fake tan. Wear Brylcreem. Modulate your anger with stoic detachment.
A fake tan seems kinda metrosexual

The real reason they're not attracted to me is the shitty pimples I've had all over my face for the last year. They have gone now since I used a potentially liver killing drug that makes you depressed (and I was depressed enough to begin with) but I still have red dots all over. Maybe I'll start working out once they're gone and I'm not such a lost cause

[jrandom]

shitty pimples... potentially liver killing drug that makes you depressed (and I was depressed enough to begin with) but I still have red dots all over.

I feel your pain. Good old Roaccutane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotrex), eh? I was on it for 18 months from age 13. Fucked my head up real good and didn't do much to help the acne, either. My shoulders are still scarred as hell. Looks like I took multiple shotgun blasts to the top of my back. Face is pretty good after more than a decade of healing, though.

I found that topical application of the same drug worked much better - ask your doc for an Isotrex prescription. I didn't get onto the gel until the bad years were almost over, unfortunately.


Maybe I'll start working out once they're gone and I'm not such a lost cause

The same level of testosterone that causes your sebacious glands to go haywire will give you training gains equivalent to those experienced by 20-somethings on exogenous anabolic steroids - at this point in time, you have a similar endocrine balance, which is why Accutane and Isotrex are commonly sold alongside stanozolol and Sustanon by online juice vendors working out of eastern Europe and South America.

Hit that gym, dude, and start stuffing your face with tuna and whey powder. It'll change your life.

[Coyote]

I feel your pain. Good old Roaccutane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotrex), eh? I was on it for 18 months from age 13. Fucked my head up real good and didn't do much to help the acne, either. My shoulders are still scarred as hell. Looks like I took multiple shotgun blasts to the top of my back. Face is pretty good after more than a decade of healing, though.

I found that topical application of the same drug worked much better - ask your doc for an Isotrex prescription. I didn't get onto the gel until the bad years were almost over, unfortunately.



The same level of testosterone that causes your sebacious glands to go haywire will give you training gains equivalent to those experienced by 20-somethings on exogenous anabolic steroids - at this point in time, you have a similar endocrine balance, which is why Accutane and Isotrex are commonly sold alongside stanozolol and Sustanon by online juice vendors working out of eastern Europe and South America.

Hit that gym, dude, and start stuffing your face with tuna and whey powder. It'll change your life.
Roaccutane worked for me. Although it required a blood test before and after. This stopped me from using it for a while cause I have some deep seeded primal fear of needles that brings out mainly the fight mechanism, but after a few months of putting it off my parents forced me into it. Since I left it a few months I have a few scars which isn't self esteem boosting in the least. Plus my face is still red and is fading very slowly

Well I'll have to see about a gym membership. Apparently it's like 50 to join, 15 a week there on, I can afford that

[Hitcher]

Roaccutane was partially successful in my case. Marvellous stuff for cystic acne but completely ineffective on the hidradenitis suppurativa -- that needed something considerably more drastic to ameliorate.

I am constantly amused by people who think that because they've got a couple of zits their life is over. If only the wee dears knew that there are folks for whom skin lesions can be 1,000 times worse.

[Coyote]

Roaccutane was partially successful in my case. Marvellous stuff for cystic acne but completely ineffective on the hidradenitis suppurativa -- that needed something considerably more drastic to ameliorate.

I am constantly amused by people who think that because they've got a couple of zits their life is over. If only the wee dears knew that there are folks for whom skin lesions can be 1,000 times worse.
Oh gosh

I don't believe my life is over, just not of a good quality. And it seems unfair that a kind, well behaved kid like me should be hindered whereas dickhead bad boys grow broad shoulders

Life can be worse, but it's still no picnic

[Hitcher]

Life can be worse, but it's still no picnic

Chicks dig scars. Well, at least the discerning high-quality ones do (fortunately).

[Coyote]

Chicks dig scars. Well, at least the discerning high-quality ones do (fortunately).
I live in the Hutt Valley... nuff sed

I'm now the loner at school. Doesn't really bother me. At lunchtime I just ride up Blue Mountains hill road or draw bikes in the library. Yuss!

[The_Dover]

dude, you sound too concerned over this shit.

if I knew at your age what I knew now I'd just fucking enjoy life.

get a hooker, seriously. it's cheaper. let the bitches come to you when you're loaded and can choose. go ride, smoke pot, play music and chill with your mates. be arrogant, appreciate your own qualities. don't worry about superficial shit. really.

it's not like you're a real loser and ride a honda.

[jrandom]

dude, you sound too concerned over this shit.

if I knew at your age what I knew now I'd just fucking enjoy life.

get a hooker, seriously. it's cheaper.

Much as I hate to be seen to be agreeing with The Dover...

Wot 'e said.

[inlinefour]

I was late back from work this afternoon and my 12 year old was home alone for about half an hour. He was playing round on the PC when I got in. he looked kinda guilty about something when I walked in so I asked him what he was doing. he said watching music videos online.

I had a quick look through the history and it shows that he typed "free porn" into google and then surfed quite a few porn websites.

How would you approach this?

I am waiting for his mother to get home.

Ask him where he keeps the really good stuff...

[Patrick]

Without reading all of the comments, my boy did the same. A friend, who is computor literate, found out what he had been signing up for and giving out his details...

After the usual lectures about putting details into sites, which were ignored, he sent him anonymous messages outlining how he knew who he was, where he lived, what sport he played and where, what school he went to, his age etc etc... made out he was a gay man looking for young love... scared the shite out of him, never done it since.

[Coyote]

dude, you sound too concerned over this shit.

if I knew at your age what I knew now I'd just fucking enjoy life.

get a hooker, seriously. it's cheaper. let the bitches come to you when you're loaded and can choose. go ride, smoke pot, play music and chill with your mates. be arrogant, appreciate your own qualities. don't worry about superficial shit. really.

it's not like you're a real loser and ride a honda.
My parents have drug tested me before, I'm on minimum youth wage in a supermarket, and I'm a loner at school

Music is good though

[The_Dover]

My parents have drug tested me before, I'm on minimum youth wage in a supermarket, and I'm a loner at school

Music is good though

make some friends for fucks sake and tell your parents to get some good weed, they might fuckin chill out and stop taking piss samples from you. what the fuck do they do for a living? librarians? accountants?

[Coyote]

make some friends for fucks sake and tell your parents to get some good weed, they might fuckin chill out and stop taking piss samples from you. what the fuck do they do for a living? librarians? accountants?
Dad's a teacher, mum works at a chemist. Along the same lines really

[The_Dover]

well you'd think a chemist would be pro drugs, man. they have access to all the good shit too.

just find a five year old and borrow some piss anyway.

[The Stranger]

My parents have drug tested me before, I'm on minimum youth wage in a supermarket, and I'm a loner at school

Music is good though

Fark!!!
You gotta get out of there man - fast.

[jrandom]

My parents have drug tested me before, I'm on minimum youth wage in a supermarket, and I'm a loner at school

I stand by what I said about the gym.

Anyway, I agree with your parents, inasmuch as I don't think kids should smoke weed. You could end up like Dover.

I suppose it doesn't help much to point out that everything will probably be just fine ten years from now, does it?

Either way, make sure you don't flub out and fail to qualify for and enter a decent profession once school's done.

[chanceyy]

I live in the Hutt Valley... nuff sed

I'm now the loner at school. Doesn't really bother me. At lunchtime I just ride up Blue Mountains hill road or draw bikes in the library. Yuss!

sometimes hibernation can be a good thing esp when your trying to sort stuff out in ya head or heal over a hurt

however a self imposed hibernation because of low self esteem is another story .. i see you have bikes ..do you ride on the road ..?

its time to get yaself out & about .. there are some great ppl on this site who are always up for a ride or happy to spend time talking bikes etc ...

how about catching a ride to a track day with someone plan ahead ... ?

one thing that you do learn as you get older appearances mean very little its the heart & soul of an individual, the personality, the fun that you can share. afflictions, disabilities or illnesses may be in front of your face but you never see them ... the saying beauty is only skin deep is a very true saying ..

instead of being a loner or hiding in the libarary find like minded ppl & talk bikes .. meeting 1 person will turn into meeting half a doz ..

Other than that .. if your parents are drug testing you ... find somewhere else to live ... unless they are right & you are doing drugs ;) Trust is a two way street

[Coyote]

I stand by what I said about the gym.

Anyway, I agree with your parents, inasmuch as I don't think kids should smoke weed. You could end up like Dover.

I suppose it doesn't help much to point out that everything will probably be just fine ten years from now, does it?

Either way, make sure you don't flub out and fail to qualify for and enter a decent profession once school's done.
Haven't got round to joining one yet, but next I'm in town I'll have to check some places out. Maybe the one near the bike store so after work there I can go to the gym

I don't want to be doing drugs anyway from all the crap I've learnt about them. The thing that really put me off is the mental state you're in when you started taking drugs perpetuates. Bugger that crap

Meh, I already know that so I suppose it doesn't :p

I'd really like to get into auto design (bikes and cars). This is what I've spent my lunchtimes doing:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53686&d=1171422914
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53687&d=1171422914
The lines are rough and such, but I was only drawing for fun, not going into hard out detail. They aren't my own designs obviously but they show I can draw, and drawing other bikes gives you ideas and you notice how things work and what things normally look like

[Coyote]

sometimes hibernation can be a good thing esp when your trying to sort stuff out in ya head or heal over a hurt

however a self imposed hibernation because of low self esteem is another story .. i see you have bikes ..do you ride on the road ..?

its time to get yaself out & about .. there are some great ppl on this site who are always up for a ride or happy to spend time talking bikes etc ...

how about catching a ride to a track day with someone plan ahead ... ?

one thing that you do learn as you get older appearances mean very little its the heart & soul of an individual, the personality, the fun that you can share. afflictions, disabilities or illnesses may be in front of your face but you never see them ... the saying beauty is only skin deep is a very true saying ..

instead of being a loner or hiding in the libarary find like minded ppl & talk bikes .. meeting 1 person will turn into meeting half a doz ..

Other than that .. if your parents are drug testing you ... find somewhere else to live ... unless they are right & you are doing drugs ;) Trust is a two way street
I ride on the road and I know a few bikers. RG100 and hXc are good blokes, plus I know several other bikers. Just don't know anyone at school due to the bikers leaving school early. Plus I'm no longer friends with the guy I used to hang out with at school so I'm kinda singled out

I don't do drugs. I ain't gonna get hooked if I don't try them. And my Dad used to be a smoker and he said it's a waste of time


Kinda funny how a kid looking at porn thread has turned to this

[The_Dover]

I don't do drugs. I ain't gonna get hooked if I don't try them. And my Dad used to be a smoker and he said it's a waste of time

did you also get told that wanking makes you go blind?

go make some fucking friends (or just find people to hang out with)

[chanceyy]

I ride on the road and I know a few bikers. RG100 and hXc are good blokes, plus I know several other bikers. Just don't know anyone at school due to the bikers leaving school early. Plus I'm no longer friends with the guy I used to hang out with at school so I'm kinda singled out

that kinda happens all through life however can not believe there are no others who are interested in bikes ;) :dodge:



I don't do drugs. I ain't gonna get hooked if I don't try them. And my Dad used to be a smoker and he said it's a waste of time
good make sure it stays that way ..
:Punk:


Kinda funny how a kid looking at porn thread has turned to this

kinda normal .. wonder if we will get red infractions for taking it off topic :shutup:

[Coyote]

did you also get told that wanking makes you go blind?

go make some fucking friends (or just find people to hang out with)
My parents have avoided that subject completely

I tried and failed trying to hang out with some people. Everyone would walk in front of me, whether intentionally trying to shun me or they just didn't see me I don't know

[The_Dover]

dude, just find someone who has some common interest. talk to people, give them some attitude or something. fark, it's not that hard.

you come across as fairly intelligent on the interweb, cover that up and do a kinda beavis and butthead laugh at anything anyone says.

and take beers. kids like beers.

[Coyote]

that kinda happens all through life however can not believe there are no others who are interested in bikes ;) :dodge:

good make sure it stays that way ..
:Punk:

kinda normal .. wonder if we will get red infractions for taking it off topic :shutup:
There might be, just I haven't met them yet. There's another biker at school but the bike is always gone after school so I can't meet them before they leave

Sure will

Maybe if we had everything in big bold text we'd get infracted. Worked for me

[chanceyy]

My parents have avoided that subject completely

more fool them ...




I tried and failed trying to hang out with some people. Everyone would walk in front of me, whether intentionally trying to shun me or they just didn't see me I don't know

mate its important not to try/fail just be yourself & as much as you are around them also let them come to you .. being a loner can make ppl think your standoffish or snobby when in fact you could be shy etc ..

sooooooooooo we will see you at the next track day in march ??

[chanceyy]

There might be, just I haven't met them yet. There's another biker at school but the bike is always gone after school so I can't meet them before they leave

thats why you leave a note on their bike .. seeing if they wanna go for a ride somewhere ;)

[Coyote]

dude, just find someone who has some common interest. talk to people, give them some attitude or something. fark, it's not that hard.

you come across as fairly intelligent on the interweb, cover that up and do a kinda beavis and butthead laugh at anything anyone says.

and take beers. kids like beers.
It's harder when you're hopeless :p It's not like I'm not trying though and I haven't stopped trying

I've thought of dumbing down 2 dis levl but I think it'd be too much effort

And I should bring some blunts

[Coyote]

mate its important not to try/fail just be yourself & as much as you are around them also let them come to you .. being a loner can make ppl think your standoffish or snobby when in fact you could be shy etc ..

sooooooooooo we will see you at the next track day in march ??
Yeah, it'll all work out eventually

With any luck. Kinda desperate to get out on the track

thats why you leave a note on their bike .. seeing if they wanna go for a ride somewhere ;)
Meh, I'll bump into them sometime after school. I normally park up the bike next to his and we all finish school at the same time

[jonbuoy]

Go buy him a playboy and tell him to use that instead of wasting you bandwidth and slowing your computer down with spyware / raping your credit card with with membership charges.

Alternatively, teach him to more creative than 'free porn'.

Damn straight, your surprised he lied? Buy the poor fella some decent mags and send him to his room for a week for lying. Its only natural.

[Wasp]

Hey Coyote, What school bro?

I'm always here if you want to go for a quick ride after I finish work

know what you mean about bikes at school though, when i had mine no one had a bike (not parked at school anyway) had a few mates that wern't into bikes and spent many a lunch time perving at the vice-principal's Ducati :love:

[geoffc]

Hi
I see you have hundreds of comments, replies and advise. Heres my thoughts for what they are worth.
Your boy told a lie to protect himself from possible fallout. Natural reaction when you are in the brown stuff.
You have dealt with it well. Tell him you will be checking the History and that deleted History means only one thing.
I suggest there is a negative consequence for his actions and lying to you. Banned from the Internet for 2 weeks & computer games. That type of crap.
You got the issue out in the open and handled in it a mature way.
Clearly you are a good caring parent. I am sure the lad wants to keep your respect and is unlikely to reoffend in the near future. Cheers

[Coyote]

Hey Coyote, What school bro?

I'm always here if you want to go for a quick ride after I finish work

know what you mean about bikes at school though, when i had mine no one had a bike (not parked at school anyway) had a few mates that wern't into bikes and spent many a lunch time perving at the vice-principal's Ducati :love:
Upper Hutt College

Do you go on the Wednesday rides? I've heard of them but haven't been on one yet

A teacher used to have a VFR400, he left though. That was always good to stare at

[KATWYN]

Good on you Cowboyz for taking responsibility....you don't want him to
become a confused, misogynist - because of a porn addiction.

[Wasp]

Upper Hutt College

Do you go on the Wednesday rides? I've heard of them but haven't been on one yet

A teacher used to have a VFR400, he left though. That was always good to stare at
Yea I go on the wednesday rides, I always wondered why you dont come - if its a cash issue I'll shout you a tank of gas and some food

[Clivoris]

Good on you Cowboyz for taking responsibility....you don't want him to
become a confused, misogynist - because of a porn addiction.

:shifty: I'll have you know that I can give up whenever I want to. :spanking:

[Wasp]

:shifty: I'll have you know that I can give up whenever I want to. :spanking:
"It's not me who is addicted to the porn, its the porn who is addicted to me" :D

[Dafe]

How would you approach this?


Simple, send him to a Tibetan Monestary or apologise to him.

You know you can't really blame him though.

Afterall:

LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.

It's your fault dude.

[doc]

Simple, send him to a Tibetan Monestary or apologise to him.

You know you can't really blame him though.

Afterall:

LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.

It's your fault dude.
Yeah and you never did show us the pics. We are all very open minded and would have offered an opinion. Just to help out mind you. we are all like that you know. Ask Dover he always has an opinion.

[Coyote]

Yea I go on the wednesday rides, I always wondered why you dont come - if its a cash issue I'll shout you a tank of gas and some food
I've just never got round to it. Mainly cause of cash but also partly cause my tyres suck. I have money now anyway so it's all good. When and where do you guys meet? I heard avalon park

[jrandom]

porn addiction

Porn addiction? Pig's arse. Might as well accuse a guy of being 'addicted' to dihydrogen monoxide.

With most women being the way they are, porn is just one of those little necessities of life.

Take that thought away with you, girls, and consider - are you putting out often enough for your man?

[Panther]

how often do you put out for yours?

[Street Gerbil]

a confused, misogynist - because of a porn addiction.
This is so yesterday! (http://www.ffeusa.org/html/statements/statements_pornography.html)
Q: Are you suffering from any perversions?
A: G-d forbid! I am enjoying them!

[paulj]

Hmmm - the sad thing is, we find it acceptable to view, even on public television, "shock & awe' video, helicopter gunships 'taking out' some poor bastard ...ad nausea, but if we so much as glimpse people enjoying themselves, the big Christian finger wags away.

I wonder if the lad had been observed playing some kill'm quick video game would our/your response have been so concerned? Probably not.

Remember, disgusting and perverted as it may seem, some of our most pious people started life as ... a damned good shag! (truly).

[cowboyz]

that be as it may BUT

I have 3 kids and NEVER to this day have I shoved a cucumber up my arse or fucked a horse. maybe its just me.

Internet porn is not a playboy magazine. There is some real sick shit out there.

[chanceyy]

amen to that cowboyz ... at least with mags you know what the content is .. on the internet higway there is so much perverted crap never know what one is gonna get to see

[jrandom]

fucked a horse

All hail MRHANDS.WMV (http://silenceisdefeat.org/~limepi/mr/mrhands.wmv).

Personally, I enjoy using the innernuh to sneak up behind people, stab them in the neck, and then gloat about it in public.

Virtually speaking.

[NB: Don't click on the link. Really. No, I mean it. If you do, I wash my hands of any psychological consequences.]

[Ixion]

amen to that cowboyz ... at least with mags you know what the content is .. on the internet higway there is so much perverted crap never know what one is gonna get to see


All hail MRHANDS.WMV (http://silenceisdefeat.org/%7Elimepi/mr/mrhands.wmv).

Personally, I enjoy using the innernuh to sneak up behind people, stab them in the neck, and then gloat about it in public.

Virtually speaking.

[NB: Don't click on the link. Really. No, I mean it. If you do, I wash my hands of any psychological consequences.]


Say no more

[qwerty]

Roaccutane was partially successful in my case. Marvellous stuff for cystic acne but completely ineffective on the hidradenitis suppurativa -- that needed something considerably more drastic to ameliorate.

I am constantly amused by people who think that because they've got a couple of zits their life is over. If only the wee dears knew that there are folks for whom skin lesions can be 1,000 times worse.

Hay everyone im new to this forum and noticed the mention of hidradenitis suppurativa which i have, how did you manage to get rid of it surgery?

[Switch]

Hay everyone im new to this forum and noticed the mention of hidradenitis suppurativa which i have, how did you manage to get rid of it surgery?

Lol...welcome to the site. Nice entrance ;) First post in a Porno thread. :2thumbsup

[Hitcher]

Hay everyone im new to this forum and noticed the mention of hidradenitis suppurativa which i have, how did you manage to get rid of it surgery?

Yes. Excision of the offending tissue, removing the underlying fat layer and then skin grafts. Both armpits and groin. It sounds brutal, but it's the only real and effective solution. You can only get surgery of this magnitude undertaken through the public health sector, due to the weeks of specialist nursing care you will need for your recovery. That, unfortunately, means waiting lists.

I understand completely what you are going through with HS. I'm happy to discuss anything you want offline. Please send me a PM.

[Hans]

where is the child porn?

Wouldn't you like to know?

[Hans]

Good on you Cowboyz for taking responsibility....you don't want him to
become a confused, misogynist - because of a porn addiction.

Confused mysoginist because of a porn addiction? God almighty! Not being "disrespectful" here, but it's a nice black&white world we live in, ain't it now?

[KATWYN]

Confused mysoginist because of a porn addiction? God almighty! Not being "disrespectful" here, but it's a nice black&white world we live in, ain't it now?

Hans,

Not being black and white at all :spudwhat:

Not all porn addicts are confused mysogynists, but some may be.

The latter is not the kinda behaviour you would want in your kids...thats all.

Generalising to the whole population of porn addicts would be a presumption
considering some women may have the problem too!

[Hans]

Point taken... Just woke up feeling like a bit of a troll.