Crime in New Zealand

[Squeak the Rat]

Excuse me, I've been out and had one or two. Just home, and I've just calmed down enough to say that I'm tired of putting up with crime in this country.

In the last 10 years I've been in this country a total of 6 years. In that time I experienced zero crime living overseas, and 6 acts of crime in NZ. One has been serious assualt (Well not so serious in the eyes of the court judging by the suspended sentence) and shitloads of theft, damage and vandalism. On top of that I've just moved into a new place and the two times I've had visitors park on the road both times their cars have been damaged (tonights the second).

From now on I'm reporting every little thing to the cops so if/when I do go postal on some little arsefucker that I might get a little sympathy at least.

And if you're thinking of moving to NZ, think about this, and that we have the worst record of developed nations in child & youth deaths and suicide.

Put this on a Tui sign: Proud to be a kiwi.

[Finn]

But, but, but it's such a beautiful country.

[Brian d marge]

But, but, but it's such a beautiful country.

dont let the kiwis hear you ,,,, they might suspect somethings not quite right....

Crime it doesnt have to happen ... its the people who make the crime happen ,,

yes thats right the people

Most are great but it only takes a few to spoil it ,,,Doesnt take punishment ..it takes parents taking responsibility ,,, for kids in both wants and responsibliy

No you cant have a playstation ....

Stephen

[idleidolidyll]

Excuse me, I've been out and had one or two. Just home, and I've just calmed down enough to say that I'm tired of putting up with crime in this country.

In the last 10 years I've been in this country a total of 6 years. In that time I experienced zero crime living overseas, and 6 acts of crime in NZ. One has been serious assualt (Well not so serious in the eyes of the court judging by the suspended sentence) and shitloads of theft, damage and vandalism. On top of that I've just moved into a new place and the two times I've had visitors park on the road both times their cars have been damaged (tonights the second).

From now on I'm reporting every little thing to the cops so if/when I do go postal on some little arsefucker that I might get a little sympathy at least.

And if you're thinking of moving to NZ, think about this, and that we have the worst record of developed nations in child & youth deaths and suicide.

Put this on a Tui sign: Proud to be a kiwi.

perhaps if the fuckin cops got back on the beat instead of concentrating on revenue collecting we'd actually get somewhere

[JimO]

its where you live m8 look at the racial make up of your area.......and Auckland isnt NZ even though most aucklanders think it is

[NighthawkNZ]

But Auckland doesn't really count as NZ... :dodge:

Come south... better people, better roads, better scenery... better life... :innocent:

Anyway sorry to hear that you have been a victum, and I would report every little thing as well. Over all NZ isn't a bad country, its just a few the soil it it, and you get that in every country. And then its luck wrong place and the wrong time etc etc

remember don't make it easier for the crimes either, lock vehicls, put every thing out of site in car. I remember when I was younger we use to leave the doors unlocked and go out... wouldn't dear do that today... even my parents on a farm in Kailoura now lock up at night when the go to bed... years ago they would leave unlocked for the weekend when they went to ChCh....

The bigger the population gets, the bigger the crime rate... the more of this PC crap... the bigger the crime rate... the more that Mr Helen Clarke believes this country is doing well the bigger the crime rate, The more Helen spends over seas and ond stupid things and not this country and where things are needed the bigger the crime rate...

Rant over

[idleidolidyll]

Wow! You people really have a chip on yer shoulders abt Auckland!

Do you really think Aucklanders are any different from other Kiwis?

Meet an Aucklander and chances are they are from somewhere else before moving to Auckland. I'm from Auckland by way of Invercargill, Christchurch, Waiouru and more than a handful of different countries.

Be specific, what is it about Auckland and Aucklanders that twists your nuts so

[KATWYN]

Talking to someone during the week...NZ needs the same laws as Dubai.

Theres next to no crime. No one rips any one off (apparently) Everyone is responsible for their own behaviour, no taxes to pay??....its just a pity its surrounded by all the other scary countries.

Not having been there myself, I can only repeat what I was told - whether it
is an exaggeration or not I don't know. But it sounds like a good place if you wanna live in a country with no crime

[bobsmith]

But Auckland doesn't really count as NZ... :dodge:

Come south... better people, better roads, better scenery... better life...

Are you kidding me?

I lived in the North Shore for 7 years before I came to Palmerston North, of those 7 years I had my car for 4 of those and I always parked my car on the road yet, not a single issue of vandalism and only got broken into once during that time (which was when I left my car in west auckland once...)

Since I've come to palmerson north, I've just had my car broken into and vandalized 4 times in the last year and a half... I'm buggering back up north as soon as I bloody can... Hell I don't even feel safe walking around at night in this town, and I'm an unattractive male.

[Squeak the Rat]

There's plenty of crime outside auckland. Late last year my vehicle was broken into at a beach down in the bay, and when i was in Christchurch in October I was witness to a pretty impressive fight in the middle of a street. My memories a bit hazy before then so I won't rattle off the years before that.

Check the papers, it's a country wide thing.



Come south... better people, better roads, better scenery... better life... :innocent:

Anyway sorry to hear that you have been a victum, and I would report every little thing as well. Over all NZ isn't a bad country, its just a few the soil it it, and you get that in every country. And then its luck wrong place and the wrong time etc etc

remember don't make it easier for the crimes either, lock vehicls, put every thing out of site in car.


Dude, have you ever travelled around NZ? In just about every carpark where tourists might stop there are big signs posted by the Police saying "Thieves operate in this area, lock your belongings". If thieves are operating in the area then why the hell are they allowed to??

I'm contemplating having a little stakeout with Mr Maglite tonight.......

[Guitana]

Buy a gun Squeak it's only gonna get worse the governments too busy covering up it's corrupt ways to worry about crime!!!
You can't expect the citizens to behave when their govt representatives are more corrupt than they are!!!!

[Finn]

When are all you inbreeds from hick towns going to realise we're all part of this shit hole? Just because your village goat didn't get nicked doesn't mean our televisions aren't getting pinched.

[SlashWylde]

I think it all depends on the type of area you live in, how hard you make it for the crims to know about and get at your stuff, and a bit of luck.

I whole heartedly aggree Squeak, that crime has gotten worse and that the Police's ability to control the problem is lacking.

My own experience of crime has been minimal. in 1991 my family home was burgalled whilst we were overseas on a night the house sitter was away, and in 2001 my car was broken into and I lost a couple of speakers and an amp to burglers. I've suffered no other burglaries and I've never been assaulted (fingers crossed for the future) even though I've accidentally left my wallet in plain view in my car on occasion with the doors unlocked overnight. Don't do that anymore though.

[outlawtorn]

how politcally incorrect of you to diss the NZ crime stats, there there Helen, everythings all right now.

AARRRGGHHH

When are the police and the justice system in this country going to grow a set of fucking balls and stop letting petty little fucktards ruin our areas?????

[Guitana]

When are all you inbreeds from hick towns going to realise we're all part of this shit hole? Just because your village goat didn't get nicked doesn't mean our televisions aren't getting pinched.

No Inbreeds likely to nick the village goat!! Where would they go for a good time on a Friday night when they strike out with the local Hillbilly chicks!!!
YYYEEEEEEHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

[Guitana]

how politcally incorrect of you to diss the NZ crime stats, there there Helen, everythings all right now.

AARRRGGHHH

When are the police and the justice system in this country going to grow a set of fucking balls and stop letting petty little fucktards ruin our areas?????

Don't blame the cops Cullens got all your tax and whats he doin with it?????

[Fat Tony]

This all sounds far too familiar... what is it with society these days? The world's gone mad!

I heard on the radio on the way home from work that a couple of women in the UK have been charged with something or other for videoing a couple of toddlers fighting and actually encouraging them to fight, handing them things to hit each other with, and giving them a telling off when they tried to stop fighting... wtf? Parenting in the 21st century eh?

[Postie]

Buy a gun Squeak it's only gonna get worse the governments too busy covering up it's corrupt ways to worry about crime!!!
You can't expect the citizens to behave when their govt representatives are more corrupt than they are!!!!

Yeah, use a gun. Even if its self defence you will get fucked over for it, just ask Greg Carvell.
Maybe the govt just doesn't want crime to be controlled, they are doing nothing about it and they are stopping the public from doing anything about it.

Its funny how Greg Carvell isn't allowed to defend himself without the police trying to prosecute him, but Jarrod Gucker (26) who hit five people when he cut loose with a pellet gun in a shopping mall car park only got 200 hours of community work.
According to the papers;
The incident happened at a suburban mall after an exchange of words between the occupants of the car Guckert was in, and a group in the car park.

The car drove off but then returned and Guckert fired pellets from an Airsoft BB pistol.



I know there is a difference between a .45 pistol and a BB gun, but one event was done out of a genuine fear for his life, the other was done as a revenge attack for someone saying somthing. The balance just seems a little off to me.

[Finn]

how politcally incorrect of you to diss the NZ crime stats, there there Helen, everythings all right now.



When are the police and the justice system in this country going to grow a set of fucking balls and stop letting petty little fucktards ruin our areas?????

The answer is in your first paragraph.

[Chisanga]

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And if you're thinking of moving to NZ, think about this, and that we have the worst record of developed nations in child & youth deaths and suicide.



I think we are in very real danger of becoming a developing nation rather than a developed one.

[Guitana]

This all sounds far too familiar... what is it with society these days? The world's gone mad!

I heard on the radio on the way home from work that a couple of women in the UK have been charged with something or other for videoing a couple of toddlers fighting and actually encouraging them to fight, handing them things to hit each other with, and giving them a telling off when they tried to stop fighting... wtf? Parenting in the 21st century eh?

Sounds similar to BUM FIGHTS you know where two street urchins are encouraged to fight for a bottle of whisky!!!
I hope those two bitches are Locked up they should be sterillised as well to ensure they can't pollute the Gene Pool anymore than they already have!!!!

[avgas]

fuck dubai laws - if your caught stealing, you lose a hand.
everyone knows your only gonna do it again.
In fact if you kill someone and are charged with it - you have seal the roads for the rest of your life, and when your not sealing the roads - you sleep in a cage outside on the street.
this cuntry is bullshit

[The_Dover]

Sounds similar to BUM FIGHTS you know where two street urchins are encouraged to fight for a bottle of whisky!!!
I hope those two bitches are Locked up they should be sterillised as well to ensure they can't pollute the Gene Pool anymore than they already have!!!!

nothing wrong with a good Tramp Match between two consenting adult alcoholics.

except where I come from they'd do it for a can of speshul bru.

[NighthawkNZ]

Are you kidding me?



Dude, have you ever travelled around NZ?

Well I use to live in the Auckland, Napier, Wangangui, and Hamilton... and have travelled the the rest via bike... and done the same to the south island... and not once had a problem to this day.

Heck if you can't take a little flack/joke... sheese... (just like a similar PC/MAC thread)

I know most kiwis are good... but the bigger the population the bigger the crime rate... happens in every country not alot you can do... its a numbers game, simple fact...

[Beemer]

Unfortunately it happens everywhere but I think it's time for us all to stand up and say we're not prepared to put up with it. So many times people don't report things to the police because "nothing will happen" - no, maybe not, but at least it gets reported and if a pattern emerges, something may be done.

We live in a rural area and there is still crime here - farmers out milking come home to find their houses have been burgled, new home being built are entered and stuff nicked, and recently my husband's old work car (about 20 years old and worth FA) got keyed all along one side. Why? It was parked legally, it's not flash - probably done by some kid wagging school because he was bored.

It pisses me off because so much of the crime has no excuse - you can understand (but not condone) someone stealing food if they are hungry, but most of these crimes are sheer vandalism or just a way of making extra income to spend on drugs. Bring back the days where the local cop knew everyone and what was going on and could kick the offenders arses and send them home to behave themselves!

[vifferman]

Meet an Aucklander and chances are they are from somewhere else before moving to Auckland. I'm from Auckland by way of Invercargill, Christchurch, Waiouru and more than a handful of different countries.
I don't consider myself a D'Aucklander - I just happen to live here for work.
Like you, I'm a typical Kiwi: a nomad.
I came here via Rotorua, Canberra, Rotorua, Hamilton, Christchurch, Tauranga. New Zealand's too small to try to cultivate an "us and them" mentality.
Maybe there appears to be more arseholes in D'Auckland than elsewhere, but that's just because there are more people living here that in other parts of NZ, and maybe at a higher concentration.

[MSTRS]

I'm contemplating having a little stakeout with Mr Maglite tonight.......

Better off with Mr Armourlite....

[idleidolidyll]

I don't consider myself a D'Aucklander - I just happen to live here for work.
Like you, I'm a typical Kiwi: a nomad.
I came here via Rotorua, Canberra, Rotorua, Hamilton, Christchurch, Tauranga. New Zealand's too small to try to cultivate an "us and them" mentality.
Maybe there appears to be more arseholes in D'Auckland than elsewhere, but that's just because there are more people living here that in other parts of NZ, and maybe at a higher concentration.

Yep, I never think of myself as an Aucklander, I always think of myself as a Kiwi.
My wife and/or I have lived and worked in Wales, England, Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, Luxembourg, Namibia, China and more and travelled extensively.

Frankly the only other country I've been to that I'd consider living in indefinitely is Canada but for me, that's just too cold and close to the Yanks.

I'm a proud Kiwi NOT a proud Aucklander, this, like any other Kiwi city, is just a location.

[bobsmith]

but the bigger the population the bigger the crime rate... happens in every country not alot you can do... its a numbers game, simple fact...

Uhhh, not so... crime rate as indicated per capita is generally not bigger for bigger population cities. For example have a look at here:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html

New York is the most populous cities in that list yet, the crime rate for New York is one of the lowest per capita (2917 per 100,000).

Interesting is the following page:

http://www.stats.govt.nz/analytical-reports/crime-in-nz/overall-offence-rate.htm

according to the graph there the offence rate for New Zealand in 2000 is about 110 per 1000 which equates to about 11,000 per 100,000. Now you can't tell from those how comparable these statistics are since the definition of offence on the new zealand website and the definition of crime in the American site are not available but still it illustrates a point that lower population does not mean less crime rate.

However the american site by itself allows us to examine the crime rates in the cities listed at least.

For example:

New York City - has a population density of: 10,316/km² The crime index (crime rate per 100,000 people) is: 2917 for year 2000.

Los Angeles - has a population density of: 3,165/km² The crime index is: 4,809. - almost double the crime rate of NY city but about a third of the population density of NY.

Phoenix - has a population density of: 1,188.4/km² The crime index is: 7,664.

From a rough look at above one could almost say that it appears that the higher the population density the lower the crime rate. Of course above are only a few examples and further study would be required to make ANY conclusions, but saying that more crime rate comes with higher population is definately an unfounded belief.

[edit] the population densities listed are as of 2005 and obtained from wikipedia.

[KLOWN]

I'm a born and bred aucklander who moved down to palmy a year and a half ago. I have never been assaulted or been a victim of ANY crime. I think its just a bit of luck and the fact that my two dogs seem to scare people (but they are wusses) Palmy aint great as far as safety is concerned but i'd rather here than papatoe or manukau or mangare(sp)

[Squeak the Rat]

Better off with Mr Armourlite....

Armourlite eh.......? :innocent:


Heck if you can't take a little flack/joke... sheese...



You think I'm upset with you because I used the word dude and asked you a question? Dude, it's the internet and sometimes the tone you *think* a reply is written in doesn't necessarily match up with the writers intent. Here's a smiley to make you feel better :)

[The_Dover]

i think crime rate is directly proportional to the number of coons in your 'hood.

[Guitana]

i think crime rate is directly proportional to the number of coons in your 'hood.

You need to get a COON DOG like I did!!!!!!

Only feed him twice a week He'll forage for the rest!

[LilSel]

haha... A dig at aucklanders??...
Im proud to be a Kiwi & a JAFA!!... I've havent comitted any crimes or theifed anything...
Our house (lived there my whole life, im almst 23.) has never been broken into or been robbed... Outta the quite a few cars I've had in the last... 8 years... only one has been broken into (at work)... Mums car had a crappy stereo stolen from home once... but apart from those couple of instances... nothing to complain about... parents workshop has been ram raided a couple of times in the last 30 odd years (steel poles in the way now)...

There is Crime yeah... but if you do everything in your power to avoid being a victim of crime... it is less likely to happen...

Car alarms... bike locks/alarms... dogs at home... house alarms... dont leave valuables in sight... etc and so on... minimise the risk...

[Squeak the Rat]

There is Crime yeah... but if you do everything in your power to avoid being a victim of crime... it is less likely to happen...

Car alarms... bike locks/alarms... dogs at home... house alarms... dont leave valuables in sight... etc and so on... minimise the risk...

While it annoys me that we should have to do this, I agree that people need to take these steps. But how do you minimise the risk of toerags vandalising vehicles parked on the street, knocking off wing mirrors etc? I don't have off-street parking for visitors....

[NighthawkNZ]

You think I'm upset with you because I used the word dude and asked you a question? Dude, it's the internet and sometimes the tone you *think* a reply is written in doesn't necessarily match up with the writers intent. Here's a smiley to make you feel better :)

Thats actually funny .... bling awarded.. :lol:

[LilSel]

But how do you minimise the risk of toerags vandalising vehicles parked on the street, knocking off wing mirrors etc? I don't have off-street parking for visitors....

Fold wing mirrors in... and have an alarm... I stay out west prob half the week nights... I park outside partners house, on the rd... if my alarm goes off... im outta bed n outside like a rocket!!...

If anyone touches my car... due to a good alarm... We'll all know about it... & im not the only one that shoots out there either... flatmates & partner do too... If I had a munter for a car... I wouldnt care... but its not.. Its like my precious along with my bike lol... (Its even the most STOLEN type of car in NZ) & I've never had any problems... The alarm goes off... they freak n take off, esp with dog barking... & 4 or so people rushing out lol
IF my car was to get vandalised.... I have insurance... sometimes shit happens... just do what you can to minimise the risk... & be prepared if something did happen, with insurance/replacement vehicle, whatever...

[Motu]

So you have to sleep in your pajamas?

[Squeak the Rat]

No, in this context shit doesn't happen. Shitheads make it happen.

And people who accept the problem just make it worse.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44219

[Paul in NZ]

Ah the good old crime thread...

If you look at the stats that the politicians use to measure crime, we are winning the battle and yet the perception among the general population is that the streets are less safe than they were.

My belief is that Police management look at the figures for serious crime and think that things are going OK because, lets face it most of them live in OK areas and drive to work in nice cars.

A New York’s ‘Broken Windows’ type policy is required. Attending to the ‘little’ crimes that directly affect peoples lives every day makes a bigger difference.

[Grub]

Paul, surely things *have* got worse. There's a murder at least every week and sometimes once a day.

Once upon a time a single murder was front-page news for weeks and weeks and weeks.

That scares the shit out of me and I'm a Jafa, happily not living there.

[LilSel]

No, in this context shit doesn't happen. Shitheads make it happen.

And people who accept the problem just make it worse.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44219

Yeah I agree with you... But... sometimes... you can do all you can... and it will still happen...
so in that respect... shit does happen... there's nothing you can do about it after the fact... sort it out.. fix it up... whatever... people do stupid things... but thats unpredictable... people do what people do... whether it be right or wrong... it does happen...
When my car got broken into, they stole my bowling gear (custom) which would have been of no use to anyone but me... sized for my hand etc... that was like loosing my babies... they'd been all over the world with me... and then they got stolen... while I was earning money... I did what I could... watched hours and hours of video tapes from the carpark cameras... found the car that did it... it took less than a minute... Gave a copy to the police AND the insurance company... they didnt care about the video and catching them... they just filled out the report... and paid out...
In that sense... there was nothing more I could have done... I had to accept the fact that my stuff was gone... and its just something that... happens... :whocares:

[idb]

When are all you inbreeds from hick towns going to realise we're all part of this shit hole? Just because your village goat didn't get nicked doesn't mean our televisions aren't getting pinched.

You Aucklanders need to learn how to goat-pool, instead of everyone insisting on having their own goat and riding it every morning and evening.
Better still - a decent public goat system.

[scumdog]

You Aucklanders need to learn how to goat-pool, instead of everyone insisting on having their own goat and riding it every morning and evening.
Better still - a decent public goat system.

You're kidding, right?

They'll still bleat on regardless if they follow your advice.

[scumdog]

Better off with Mr Armourlite....

Are you going to coat him in Armarol??

Or do you mean Armalite?

[Finn]

You Aucklanders need to learn how to goat-pool, instead of everyone insisting on having their own goat and riding it every morning and evening.
Better still - a decent public goat system.

And there's a very good reason why South Island goat cheese has a very high protein content.

[scumdog]

And there's a very good reason why South Island goat cheese has a very high protein content.

Why? Has all the protien been sucked out of your goats??

[Toaster]

Talking to someone during the week...NZ needs the same laws as Dubai.

That is because they have very severe punishment for crime.... punishment - a concept lost in NZ with all our politically correct systems in place. I've met many a crim in NZ and it's just a big game to them... lawyers are free... judges are soft... prison is a holiday camp with free food, and as much sex and drugs as you need.

In Saudi Arabia if you steal, you get your hand cut off. Death for serious crime (rape/murder etc).

The govt seem more than happy for us plebs to suffer as victims of real crime and pay high insurance premiums for the privilege and then tax us for slipping 4km's over the speed limit (ooooh big bad crime that is.)

[Finn]

Why? Has all the protien been sucked out of your goats??

Yes, Fontera extract the seaman, package it as milk and ship it to the South Island. Apparently the kids love it. Tastes just like daddies milk.

[idb]

And there's a very good reason why South Island goat cheese has a very high protein content.

Because we're all gentlemen down here, we like to take them out for a meal first....and they usually order the seafood.

[idb]

Yes, Fontera extract the seaman, ................

That would piss him off, if he was busy doing something at the time.

[KATWYN]

That is because they have very severe punishment for crime.... punishment - a concept lost in NZ with all our politically correct systems in place. I've met many a crim in NZ and it's just a big game to them... lawyers are free... judges are soft... prison is a holiday camp with free food, and as much sex and drugs as you need.

In Saudi Arabia if you steal, you get your hand cut off. Death for serious crime (rape/murder etc).

The govt seem more than happy for us plebs to suffer as victims of real crime and pay high insurance premiums for the privilege and then tax us for slipping 4km's over the speed limit (ooooh big bad crime that is.)

Hmmm ok. So it would still be living in fear........either way. In NZ we live in fear because of crime toward us, in Dubai we would live in fear of doing something wrong or to be falsely accused of summit. *sigh*

[Edbear]

I know most kiwis are good... but the bigger the population the bigger the crime rate... happens in every country not alot you can do... its a numbers game, simple fact...




Interesting comment from a top cop in Chch last year - "If we took ten particular families out of Chch and buried them, the crime rate would drop 90%!"

[Finn]

That would piss him off, if he was busy doing something at the time.

Sorry. Speed not quality.

[SPman]

That is because they have very severe punishment for crime.... punishment - a concept lost in NZ with all our politically correct systems in place. I've met many a crim in NZ and it's just a big game to them... lawyers are free... judges are soft... prison is a holiday camp with free food, and as much sex and drugs as you need.


Shit yeah! Went to Fremantle prison last weekend and , fuck me, the prisoners parking lot was just full of these f**kin german cars!
Was good to see what they do with Hondas, though...

And the cells - talk about ROOMY - fuck, the soft barstards had room to stretch their arms........

Holiday camp - have you spent time inside for a period , recently, to know this? If so, you must have been on some shit holidays!

Never mind - theres always the last pic - although the ropes not original.....

[Squeak the Rat]

Interesting comment from a top cop in Chch last year - "If we took ten particular families out of Chch and buried them, the crime rate would drop 90%!"

That's the bloody trouble, too much talking not enough action! :Police:

[SPman]

The trouble is, a lot of the "petty" crime is caused by a small selection of individuals in each area. Local cops know this and, no doubt, do what they can, but, in cities and larger towns, there just aren't any local cops, any more.

[Toaster]

That's the bloody trouble, too much talking not enough action! :Police:

I have a shovel, I'll do it!!

[scumdog]

Yes, Fontera extract the seaman, package it as milk and ship it to the South Island. Apparently the kids love it. Tastes just like daddies milk.

So your real name IS "Fontera, Sucker of Mens Milk"?

[scumdog]

Yes, Fontera extract the seaman..

...."from Finns arse" is the correct rest of the sentence I believe????

[NighthawkNZ]

So your real name IS "Fontera, Sucker of Mens Milk"?

:scratch: ... like ewwww

[Guitana]

Interesting comment from a top cop in Chch last year - "If we took ten particular families out of Chch and buried them, the crime rate would drop 90%!"

Sounds like they were suggesting the NZ police put together a hit squad!!!!

[avgas]

I like alcohol

[Guitana]

I like alcohol

A Heineken sounds good!!!!

[Flatcap]

A Heineken sounds good!!!!

Only if you like South Auckland poo-water

[spudchucka]

Interesting comment from a top cop in Chch last year - "If we took ten particular families out of Chch and buried them, the crime rate would drop 90%!"

That would be true of pretty much any town, only the scale would vary depending upon population.

[Edbear]

That would be true of pretty much any town, only the scale would vary depending upon population.




Yep! That was my point. I bet it's frustrating for the cops who know exactly who they're going to be dealing with each week and not be able to "solve the problem!"

[maybe]

Catch em then hang em > Wouldn't take long for the message to get through & oh well if it don't guess there will be no repeat offenders

[Dave Lobster]

Yep! That was my point. I bet it's frustrating for the cops who know exactly who they're going to be dealing with each week and not be able to "solve the problem!"

And what would they do with their time if they solved the problem?

Eat more donuts?

[scumdog]

And what would they do with their time if they solved the problem?

Eat more donuts?

Nah, give out more tickets!

[0arbreaka]

I think cops in nz eat pies as opposed to donuts in the usa.

[crack]

Why not get those former cops, and RSM's, form a data base IE similar to the sensible sentancing trust:
Some stocks, a public canning, or two would educate the younger ones:
Fuck even if crims are assulted in jail, they can claim human rights abuse, because the system didn't keep them safe, then sue the Govt, get $90K payout.
I don't want to rant, I may end up getting spanked again! jokes aside, then we have to hear about the useless fucker taking to his kids, yes a 7 week old, another just over a year old and a three year old, and slicing them up with a carving knife, fuck me, I just don't know anymore, I really really don't.
Even the coppers are hamstrung, they are revenue collectors, mum a dad have to work, the little pricks go off the rails early, and don't get put back on the straight and narrow, because Mum & Dad are working all the time to provide a home.
I am just a lost fucker with all this, it upsets me to think we have reached a stage where a person, let alone a parent can do this, how many people have just given up hope?
Me I think it is a problem created by the "wait for it" Queer fucking liberals.
Too many soft cocks and PC do gooders, start by severing our ties with the UN:
My Dad is 75, he was a jail warder in the 60's at NP & Waikeria institutions, he said that at NP they put the prisioners in the Quarry at 7am, and they left the quarry at 5pm, Hard labour breaking rocks, he said they never had too many problems because they where all too tired.
As for Rapists and child molesters they got sorted out by the other inmates real quick:
Tools they used to punish inmates where, taking blankets off them in winter, chaining them to their bed, fire hosing them, and the old baton in the ribs.
Going down Carrington street toward town looking across to the prison, you can still see the Quarry remains.
Shit it is a Stone prison, no blankets you would get cold.

Alais I still think the likes of this prick cutting his kids, a double tap behind the ear.

NZ has to harden up.

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[Guitana]

Only if you like South Auckland poo-water

If POO WATER tastes that good I'll have a dozen please!!!!!

[Guitana]

Why not get those former cops, and RSM's, form a data base IE similar to the sensible sentancing trust:
Some stocks, a public canning, or two would educate the younger ones:
Fuck even if crims are assulted in jail, they can claim human rights abuse, because the system didn't keep them safe, then sue the Govt, get $90K payout.
I don't want to rant, I may end up getting spanked again! jokes aside, then we have to hear about the useless fucker taking to his kids, yes a 7 week old, another just over a year old and a three year old, and slicing them up with a carving knife, fuck me, I just don't know anymore, I really really don't.
Even the coppers are hamstrung, they are revenue collectors, mum a dad have to work, the little pricks go off the rails early, and don't get put back on the straight and narrow, because Mum & Dad are working all the time to provide a home.
I am just a lost fucker with all this, it upsets me to think we have reached a stage where a person, let alone a parent can do this, how many people have just given up hope?
Me I think it is a problem created by the "wait for it" Queer fucking liberals.
Too many soft cocks and PC do gooders, start by severing our ties with the UN:
My Dad is 75, he was a jail warder in the 60's at NP & Waikeria institutions, he said that at NP they put the prisioners in the Quarry at 7am, and they left the quarry at 5pm, Hard labour breaking rocks, he said they never had too many problems because they where all too tired.
As for Rapists and child molesters they got sorted out by the other inmates real quick:
Tools they used to punish inmates where, taking blankets off them in winter, chaining them to their bed, fire hosing them, and the old baton in the ribs.
Going down Carrington street toward town looking across to the prison, you can still see the Quarry remains.
Shit it is a Stone prison, no blankets you would get cold.

Alais I still think the likes of this prick cutting his kids, a double tap behind the ear.

NZ has to harden up.

:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :whocares:

Unfortunately the system fails the very people it was designed to protect when a criminal has more rights than his victim it dose'nt take a Brain Surgeon to figure out something is drastically wrong!!!
The real problem is how do NZers improve the current situation? Well start by emailing your local organised crime syndicate, oh sorry I meant to say politician and vent your spleen!!! Organise a march on parliament NZers as a whole have to take responsibility for whats going on around us and act!! Were all quite happy to turn a blind eye while the neighbour down the roads busy working his missus over because he's had a shit day at work and the kids are crying!!!
It's too much trouble to act I can remember when I knew all of the people that lived in my old street now I would be lucky to know 1 or 2 faces.
We need to change our attitudes toward whats acceptable behaviour and educate the youth before it's too late!!!
The Time needs to fit the crime if some wanker takes an innocents life take his away I would rather pay for the prick to be locked up indefinitely than have him out walking the streets causing more grief to other families!!!

[Squeak the Rat]

Guitana, I agree. But how you ask any one who complains in this country what they are going to do about it and they say there is nothing they can do.

I fear changing the country is the easy bit. Changing the apathy is where it gets difficult.

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Agree Guitana and Squeak the Rat. Doesn't help when Govt even ignores referendums. Have the death sentence and harsher penalties, sex offenders have their genitals removed. The odd innocent one may have to suffer but by jesus more crims would be nailed and save the country billions in setting them up in the hotels - i.e. supposed jails. I certainly wouldn't live in fear cos I "might" do something wrong or get wrongly accused if there were harsher penalties.

I don't have a tv, I don't listen to the radio and barely read the newspaper - yet unfortunately I am not left ignorant of the crime committed in this country.

Can you even call that "thing" a human who stabbed his children. Don't waste money on a psyche report - just shoot it - they shoot mad dogs, cows and lame horses.

That 27 yr old that molested kids from 3-15 from 1999 to 2006. A 3 yr old was so conditioned when "it" took him into a room that he automatically pulled down his pants and bent over. If I had given birth to that sick fucker - I'd kill him myself.

Personally trying get my head around the above 2 incidents - I just can't - it makes me physically sick. I'd love to see that thing we have for a PM interviewed - on these last two issues - but the thing wouldn't allow it. I can't even think straight re the above events.
I agree: changing the apathy is where it gets difficult.

[Guitana]

Can you even call that "thing" a human who stabbed his children. Don't waste money on a psyche report - just shoot it - they shoot mad dogs, cows and lame horses.

That 27 yr old that molested kids from 3-15 from 1999 to 2006. A 3 yr old was so conditioned when "it" took him into a room that he automatically pulled down his pants and bent over. If I had given birth to that sick fucker - I'd kill him myself.

So would I but some parents don't give a fuck at all!!! And they are the problem, if kids dont have boundaries and are de-sensitised by violence in the home then kicking some kids head in for a laugh is'nt a biggy!!!!
Society needs to let these scumbags know thats enough now bend over and take your medicine like a man!!!!!!!!!