Are you an organ donor?

[Steam]

Given that we are often called "Organ Donors", how many of you in KB-land are actually registered to be organ donors when/if you die? Usually it's written on your license.

[Smokin]

Yep, I wont need them and why not give someone else a chance of enjoying life again.

[JimO]

i would be happy to help someone live live a longer life i i was to die young /unexpectdely and have been a donor for many years

[T.W.R]

Yep :yes: been on the receiving end so returning the favour to someone in need is a worthy thing

[paturoa]

yep (but I rekon Skidmark donates b4 me - sad but true)

[Meanie]

Na but have told my wife they are welcome to them if i am no longer in need of them

[miSTa]

No, it is time to change that though.

[Skunk]

I am but only after my death.

[MyGSXF]

Yep, I wont need them and why not give someone else a chance of enjoying life again.

UUmmm... are you talking bout those thingees in your avatar Smokin...???? :shifty:







coz if you are.. can I have em...???? :msn-wink: :innocent:

[Meanie]

I am but only after my death.
Good decision

[spookytooth]

yep but i have pretty much fucked every thing thats recycleable :sunny:

[Quartermile]

Yea I am but if I do die in that way I should hope that my Gardian angel first pushed me to the limit, so hopefuly there wouldn't be anything left to give, thats how I intend it anyway!:D

Sorry hospital waiting list :D

[Colapop]

Been said. Have what ya want if it's any good after I'm done with 'em.

[MyGSXF]

YEP!! :yes: I am.. :Punk: They're no good to me once the lights are out.. so if someone else can get some milage out of em.. go for it! :yeah:

[Colapop]

I was gonna ask if I could 'ave yer tits... but I've been accused of being rude lately... so I won't...

[Chickadee]

They can take what they can use and please cremate the rest. So many people on waiting lists that deserve a better. My Mum in laws a kidney transplant patient, be nice to return the favour.

[Donor]

I'm on the fence...

[Quartermile]

So assuming you fall off the fence and die what happens?

[Colapop]

Get in quick and carve him up... He aint gonna know...

[Donor]

In all seriousness, they can bloody well take what they want.

I have instructed my wife, and all my immediate family that they are not to hinder the harvesting of any usable bits of me that can go toward saving a life.

[Ixion]

Yes, I am. After I'm dead (it is possible to donate organs before death). 'Tis but common sense. Waste not, want not. And also, what goes round comes round.

[The Stranger]

Given that we are often called "Organ Donors".

Been trying to donate it for a while now. Only one that would take it was Dover.

[Jonny Rotten]

im not only because i plan to have no organs of use by the time im dead :rockon:

[Quartermile]

In all seriousness, they can bloody well take what they want.

I have instructed my wife, and all my immediate family that they are not to hinder the harvesting of any usable bits of me that can go toward saving a life.

Like a certain peice might 'save' an old ladys life:blip: :shit:

[Donor]

Like a certain peice might 'save' an old ladys life:blip: :shit:

If a heart had been available, it could have saved my mothers life.

[_Gina_]

Yeah I am, not so sure that anything will be salvagable, but if those who are in the know decide that there are salvagable bits - Well they're welcome to them.

People keep telling me that I am intelligent, so they might need my brain for those less fortunate !

Warning though
It has been well soaked in alcohol once or ten times hehe

[Quartermile]

Sorry about that.....

But also not what I meant

[pixc]

Yip, take it all. Even for science. Im all for recycling. I watched a show about recipiants receiveing also personality traits from the donor. Curious..very curious indeed.

[Gremlin]

I have instructed my wife, and all my immediate family that they are not to hinder the harvesting of any usable bits of me that can go toward saving a life.
Very important to do this with your relatives... they can stop the donation going ahead, despite you listing yourself as an organ donor on your license.

Have had that box checked since the beginning....

[The Stranger]

im not only because i plan to have no organs of use by the time im dead :rockon:

I see you have already started the process with your brain.

[Toaster]

I'm on the fence...

Is that like being in the closet with a door each way????!!!!

[Donor]

Sorry about that.....

But also not what I meant

I know - and not what I had in mind as a reply either... lol

But this is a thread that belongs on topic for a while longer methinks... :)

[Donor]

Is that like being in the closet with a door each way????!!!!

Foolish man!

...that'd be a gate...

[apteryx_haasti]

Very important to do this with your relatives... they can stop the donation going ahead, despite you listing yourself as an organ donor on your license.

Have had that box checked since the beginning....

What Gremlin said - at the moment in NZ relatives can over-ride your wishes and stop donations. MAke sure your family know that you want to donate and that you'd appreciate it if they would respect your wish.

The Bills that are currently before the Select Committee "aim to prevent anyone overturning the wishes of a registered organ donor.

It would create an "opt on" register where people would be able to nominate organs they want to donate."

I like the sloan of the pro-donation campaigners "Live life then give life"

My family knows the score - I'm a donor

[apteryx_haasti]

PS - here's the current situation:


Australia and New Zealand Organ Donation Registry figures show just 25 people donated organs in New Zealand last year, a record low. The figure put the donor rate at six donors per million people – poor by international standards.

At present, about 400 people are waiting for a kidney transplant and another 29 for heart, lung, liver or pancreas/ kidney transplants. A Land Transport New Zealand spokesman said about 46 per cent of people were listed as donors on their driver's licences – the equivalent of almost 1.4 million car licence holders.

But the driver licence register is considered only an indication of people's wishes and does not represent legal consent. Because of this, the Government plans to establish a national organ and tissue donor register and has introduced the Human Tissue Bill, also before the committee. The bill aims to balance the wishes of a dead person with family needs.

[The Pastor]

There are enough orgens in china, they just kill off prisoners to order, if they need them fresh for international orders, they send the prisoner on a holiday......


Im not currently one, no reason, just never been asked if I wanted to be or not. I'd be scared of crashing getting munted and then I wake up on a table looking at my liver.....

[MSTRS]

Im not currently one, no reason, just never been asked if I wanted to be or not.

If you hold a NZ driving license, then you were asked...

[Jonny Rotten]

I see you have already started the process with your brain.
and after last night...... my liver

[Smorg]

Ive always been a bit worried that there may be the possibility that you can still feel things and be aware of your surroundings after you have karked it. But Im a donor now still FREAKS ME OUT though!

[McJim]

Closest I got to being an organ donor was when I gave my sister a keyboard (musical) it had a church organ setting.

Yep - people can have my bits when I'm dead - as long as they don't mind a liver that has probably filtered huge quantities of alcohol, a set of lungs that have belonged to a smoker for the past 28 years and a heart that has been exposed to deep fried food for nearly 4 decades.

In fact they'll prolly live longer without my organs.

[Coyote]

In all seriousness, they can bloody well take what they want.
Wouldn't have guessed you were a Donor

PS - here's the current situation:
Shiiiit, only 25?! How many deaths from car accidents are there? Like 400-500 a year?

I wonder how many people were suposedly donors, but there close relations decided they didn't want their beloved's body cut up to help people

[Joni]

Related/the same conversation... :spudwhat:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=15049

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=8346

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=1159

[Ixion]

Shiiiit, only 25?! How many deaths from car accidents are there? Like 400-500 a year?

I wonder how many people were suposedly donors, but there close relations decided they didn't want their beloved's body cut up to help people

I believe that there are technical type problems here too, though. My (very limited - correction invited) understanding is that there is a very short amount of time available for transplantation of the organs , with the clock starting to tick from the moment when a strong effective pulse ceases . Note that at that point the donor may not yet be dead!

So a person who dies at the roadside will not be suitable for "harvesting" - and often someone who dies in intensive care will not be either because their organs will have been damaged by the process that led to their death.Unfortunately most people who die in hospital after a road crash die of general organ failure. And the two most "saleable" organs, the kidney and heart are the organs that fail.

And even if someone dies under "suitable" circumstances the hospital must know of a target recipient "ready and waiting" .

And permission must be obtained from grieving relatives at a time of very high emotional stress. Even people who might be willing, at a less fraught time, to allow a deceased love one's organs to be used , will often respond with a "oh no no - please not now" when asked at the height of their grief. It is actually easier emotionally to give permission for ones own organs to be harvested , than it is to give permission to harvest those of someone you love who has just tragically died. And of course it is not a time when medical staff want to be "pushy" .

Incidentally, I understand that the hospital staff do not have access to the deceased wishes stated on the driver licence ie the doctors don't know that you ticked yes.

[Ixion]

Related/the same conversation... :spudwhat:



Well, the most recent is 18 months old. And it is a topic of sufficient social value to justify reviewing every so often. Many more recent members will not have seen those older threads.

[Joni]

Well, the most recent is 18 months old. And it is a topic of sufficient social value to justify reviewing every so often. Many more recent members will not have seen those older threads.Fair enough Les... I would think posting in the last thread and "reviving" it would suffice...

[Steam]

Mea Culpa, I should have know better, being a REPOST nark myself.

[Joni]

Nah Steam, Ixion has a point, it is relevant...:yes:
I have just noticed a lot of "re-discussion" as of late... but I also forget that there are 2000 more members than there were the last time it was done. :innocent:

[Sniper]

No, Im a selfish bugger and Im taking all my parts to the grave with me

[klingon]

I'm listed as an organ donor for the reasons others have already covered. I've been listed ever since the option became available.

I've also been a blood donor for many years, so people don't have to wait until I die to benefit from me. Started donating whole blood when I was 16, moved to plasma later (they put the red cells back into you so your recovery time is much quicker).

But now they don't want my blood any more :( Picky people! Wouldn't have thought a little bit of malignant melanoma was such a big deal! :whocares:

Yep, I'm all for sharing my bits around :love:

[Curious_AJ]

im a donor, i want others to benefit from my death coz i CERTAINLY dont benefit from my life!! *jumps off bridge over traffic*

[Guitana]

No ones touching my organ!!!!!!

[klingon]

im a donor, i want others to benefit from my death coz i CERTAINLY dont benefit from my life!! *jumps off bridge over traffic*

Don't jump, AJ! :shit:
You'll mess up your organs and they'll be no use at all (except maybe as steak and kidney pie... or liver and bacon... or black pudding... :drool: )
Oh alright, who am I to stop you doing something you really want to do?
I'll bring the frying pan.

[Curious_AJ]

lolz, that means you'll benefit.. and no, if i jump it wont damage them, but possibly the cars will! thats probably not the way i'd go though, i have a feeling i'll be shot ^_^ just ask joni there, im rather "abnoxious"

[NighthawkNZ]

Im a donar.. but if and when I die, I don't think any one will wont me parts.. probably want be anything let... :doh: :dodge:

[0arbreaka]

Im listed as an organ donor, but im still not completely sure about my decision, I suppose it makes bugger all difference if im dead.

[Coyote]

I believe that there are technical type problems here too, though. My (very limited - correction invited) understanding is that there is a very short amount of time available for transplantation of the organs , with the clock starting to tick from the moment when a strong effective pulse ceases . Note that at that point the donor may not yet be dead!

So a person who dies at the roadside will not be suitable for "harvesting" - and often someone who dies in intensive care will not be either because their organs will have been damaged by the process that led to their death.Unfortunately most people who die in hospital after a road crash die of general organ failure. And the two most "saleable" organs, the kidney and heart are the organs that fail.

And even if someone dies under "suitable" circumstances the hospital must know of a target recipient "ready and waiting" .

And permission must be obtained from grieving relatives at a time of very high emotional stress. Even people who might be willing, at a less fraught time, to allow a deceased love one's organs to be used , will often respond with a "oh no no - please not now" when asked at the height of their grief. It is actually easier emotionally to give permission for ones own organs to be harvested , than it is to give permission to harvest those of someone you love who has just tragically died. And of course it is not a time when medical staff want to be "pushy" .

Incidentally, I understand that the hospital staff do not have access to the deceased wishes stated on the driver licence ie the doctors don't know that you ticked yes.
I had thought of all of that, but even so it seems like a minisule amount of people actually being 'harvested' when there seems to be so much death

[Quartermile]

im a donor, i want others to benefit from my death coz i CERTAINLY dont benefit from my life!! *jumps off bridge over traffic*

You know why your life 'sucks', 'cos you don't have a bike!!:D

You know why you would die if you jumped off a bridge over traffic, 'cos of friggen cages :mad:

[NighthawkNZ]

Im listed as an organ donor, but im still not completely sure about my decision, I suppose it makes bugger all difference if im dead.

Thats my thought... I dead so I don't really care

[Trudes]

Yep I ticked the donor box and must inform the loved ones to let them have whatever they want should it be of any use. I tried several times to give blood, but I tend to start to faint after about a test tube of blood has been pumped out, Would be great blood for anemic people though as it is very iron rich apparently!

[avgas]

Im not listed as an organ donor, not really because i am against organ donating or anything.
I think they are awesome people.
Im just too scared to tick that box, its like signing a death warrent or something.
Dont like will's for the same reason.

[James Deuce]

Nope.

Transplant technology doesn't work, the only transplant not likely to kill you instantly if you forget one pill in 30 every morning is a cornea transplant.

8% of people who have a GA die. A %age of transplant patients die with in hours or during the precedure. Few make it past 5 years. Pointless torture foisted on people because doctors like to experiment on humans.

Organs cloned from your own DNA and someone else's stem cells is a much better application of technology, but the biggest hot bed of testing and research in that area is currently in hiatus thanks to Christians who would prefer that people suffer the torture of surgery, the torment of a daily drugs regimen, and the prospect of sudden death, or excrutiating death from infection or spontaneous organ failure.

Thanks George Bush.

And to the medical profession. No you may not use my organs to torture people.

[Karma]

I'd donate organs, but apparently because i'm English they're too good for you kiwis, something about accents, my kidney can't understand your colon or something...

That and the mad cow disease....

[Meekey_Mouse]

Yep I ticked the donor box and must inform the loved ones to let them have whatever they want should it be of any use. I tried several times to give blood, but I tend to start to faint after about a test tube of blood has been pumped out, Would be great blood for anemic people though as it is very iron rich apparently!

Haha, yeah... I'm the same. I would like to give blood, but I faint and feel all dizzy/tired for the rest of the day, so I don't give blood.

I am a donor, but it freaks me out for the same reasons as a few others have said... waking up on the table when they are cutting you up and or feeling it after you are dead. Silly, I know... but hey :stupid: that's me :sweatdrop

[McJim]

I can't give blood coz I might be a mad cow....20 or so people diagnosed with CJD in 10 years so all the poms and returning kiwis can't contribute - no wonder there's a shortage due to paranoia.

[Curious_AJ]

i CAN donate blood but i dont think i actually could... just this thing about my bodily life fluids getting let out... no thanks... had some taken for about 12 tests once.. and no.. i dont think i could ever get it done again...

[Trudes]

I have to have my iron levels tested once a year and if they get too high I'll have to go in to have a pint (I think it was) taken once a month :shit: , hoping that doesn't happen, I could be doing a lot of fainting! I had my blood taken on Monday and came up with this really huge ugly bruise from it (my hubby does this :sick: every time I show him, so I keep showing him it :laugh: ):innocent: .

[Curious_AJ]

haha, awesome! grossing people out is fun... i have really low iron, its just over the "TOO LOW" line... people force me to take iron supplements.. have tried for a week and i havnt taken a single one yet.. mwahahaha!! ^_^ not that i need higher levels or anything.

[The Stranger]

I have to have my iron levels tested once a year and if they get too high I'll have to go in to have a pint (I think it was) taken once a month

Haemochromatosis?

[Trudes]

Haemochromatosis?

That's the one!

[Karma]

Haemochromatosis?

Bless you.

[The Stranger]

haha, awesome! grossing people out is fun... i have really low iron, its just over the "TOO LOW" line... people force me to take iron supplements.. have tried for a week and i havnt taken a single one yet.. mwahahaha!! ^_^ not that i need higher levels or anything.

Ok, this is going back a while, so I can't say I am still 100% accurate, but - if you have low blood iron you should eliminate Haemochromatosis before you take any iron supplements. Haemochromatosis causes Iron to be stored in the liver and can destroy the liver.
You may present with low blood iron levels (common in women due to menstruation) however you may have excessive iron in your liver due to Haemochromatosis (again more common in women). The iron you do take will overload the liver and leave the blood iron levels low.
Don't rely on your doctor - they have been instrumental in causing big problems here due to ignorance.
It was said that the defect that causes Haemochromatosis is the most common disorder in the human genome, so it is more common than what you may think.

[The Stranger]

That's the one!

Yes, not many conditions they still treat by blood letting.

[Trudes]

Several of my family have it also, and due to not being diagnosed until after I was and then being tested, they have developed illnesses that could have possibly been avoided. It runs in families and apparantly is more harmful to males as they don't have a monthly blood letting session to release some of the built up iron, pays to get tested.:bye:

[Trudes]

Yes, not many conditions they still treat by blood letting.

Maybe I should invest in some leeches!

[klingon]

...apparantly is more harmful to males as they don't have a monthly blood letting session to release some of the built up iron, pays to get tested.:bye:

yay for periods! :woohoo:







Good grief... never thought I'd hear myself saying that... :gob:

[mitchilin]

My liver is probably no good to anyone,but it's cool to think if your dick got transplanted....

[Scouse]

Im quite happy tro donate sperm from my organ does that count..?

[Hitcher]

It may be written on your license, but that doesn't mean Jack Shit. Who on earth is going to look there after you have croaked?

If you want to be an organ donor, make sure that you add this to your Will, and also inform your next of kin and family of your intentions. The way the law is currently drafted, they are the ones who will decide whether or not your organs will be harvested after your untimely demise, not you.

[Mumbles]

When my last doctor found out I was a motorbike rider he called me a TC :shit: (temporary citizens) he then asked if I was a donor…. Which I am. :yes:

The amount of sadness at my passing :innocent: if/when it happens at least my family with have some peace knowing that part of me was able to help other/s ~ don’t know what parts they want, but I will no longer have a use for it…. Will I?:shutup:

[Quartermile]

Im quite happy tro donate sperm from my organ does that count..?

In NZ!??:shit:

The NZ law now means that if you have kids from that donation they are legaly allowed to see where you live and all those personal details!!!!:nono:

[BUNGY]

Heres how I see it. If I die I wont need my organs and if the manner of my death leaves them in a fit state to use then why not help save someones life. Although they could end up going to someone like whetu te hiko inb which case maybe it would be better to keep them to myself.

[Quartermile]

You could give them to a guinea pig....huh...........ow man wheres mike?

[MOTOXXX]

well if anyone wants mine when im done with them they can have em

i dont know if anyone would like my lungs or liver though

[Nasty]

This is an interesting thread ... I am an organ donor .. but due to MS am no longer able to donate blood (the disease may recide there ... ) ... I won't need the parts cos I will be dead .. therefore unable to wake up during a harvest :yes:

Oh and the Grub knows my wishes ... and I have told the others but they have ears painted on so he will have to make them listen ;)

[jumma]

i'm a donor. don't think they'll appreciate the state i've left my liver in though

[Guitana]

I wonder if parts of you are still alive what happens to your soul????
Are you forever held in limbo until your parts finally join you????
Or when you go towards the light they tell you to fuck off because you're technically still alive!!!
The life after death question is this a good subject for a KB poll???

[Hitcher]

I wonder if parts of you are still alive what happens to your soul????
Are you forever held in limbo until your parts finally join you????
Or when you go towards the light they tell you to fuck off because you're technically still alive!!!
The life after death question is this a good subject for a KB poll???

What's the difference between a cornea, kidney, toenail and hair clippings? Nothing. Your body regenerates itself completely on about a seven-year cycle.

And any discussion of "life after death" should be conducted in the Scottish Thread (aka Religious Ravings).

[Guitana]

What's the difference between a cornea, kidney, toenail and hair clippings? Nothing. Your body regenerates itself completely on about a seven-year cycle.

And any discussion of "life after death" should be conducted in the Scottish Thread (aka Religious Ravings).

But we can't hold a poll on that thread can we????

[Hitcher]

But we can't hold a poll on that thread can we????

Just like you can't hold another poll on this thread.

[LilSel]

UUmmm... are you talking bout those thingees in your avatar Smokin...???? :shifty:



coz if you are.. can I have em...???? :msn-wink: :innocent:

I wouldnt mind them either :laugh:

[Curious_AJ]

too many people seem to have "bad" livers here... lol... as for haemochromatosis (spelling?) i dont think i have that... i havnt shown any other signs apparently... so no... but meh... whatever... lol... im not taking the pills anyway, so it doesnt matter... my parents should really stop trying to self-diagnose me...

[Hitcher]

my parents should really stop trying to self-diagnose me...

Are they cybercondriacs?

[Curious_AJ]

they dont look on the internetz if that what you mean, they just hear things on the news or pull it out of their arses lol.. like whenever i have a cold they go, "is your neck sore? do you have spots? you might have meningitis!" and im like, "no go away... and you cant make me go to the doctor... NEVER!!!"

(yes, im scared of quacks) ^_^