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judecatmad
8th March 2007, 20:57
There's something I never thought I would be saying!

Had a bit of a corners lesson with Jim2 this evening - he's a patient man! Boy oh boy, when you finally get the idea, corners do get to be bloody good fun! Even on the ginny....

I have never before felt so confident on a road I've never ridden before, and have never before done corners at speed (well, speed for me is anything over 20kph...but from small acorns...).

There was a small binning incident tho.....at zero kph *sigh* Dropped the bike after one of our stops to chat about the ride I'd just done - one second I had the handlebars, the next...over she went!!! Sooooooooo embarrassing! Ah well, now I know how to pick a bike up off the floor! :rofl: :rofl:

I don't know why I've not been able to figure corners out for myself. I mean, I've been riding for around 18 months/2 yrs now. Just having someone show you the lines to take and give you simple tips about looking through the corner makes all the difference - well, it has to me. Now I just need to practice!

Thanks Jim, for the time and the help :)

NighthawkNZ
8th March 2007, 21:05
I gets better too... way better... :) :innocent: :yes:

judecatmad
8th March 2007, 21:08
I gets better too... way better... :) :innocent: :yes:

Yeah, if they're this much fun on a ginny, I can't wait to get on something bigger and sportier! :yes:

James Deuce
8th March 2007, 21:29
I don't know why I've not been able to figure corners out for myself. I mean, I've been riding for around 18 months/2 yrs now. Just having someone show you the lines to take and give you simple tips about looking through the corner makes all the difference - well, it has to me. Now I just need to practice!

Thanks Jim, for the time and the help :)

It was a total pleasure to have a "student" exceed expectations almost instantly.

I still learn stuff all the time about riding, especially going out for a ride with other riders, and some of it can be pretty basic stuff too.

I'm uploading a before and after video as we speak so you guys can see what a legend judecatmad is!

It is incredibly fulfilling to watch someone go from lacking confidence, hesitant, choppy riding, to smooth, controlled, and relaxed in about an hour, including dodging cars over taking a cyclist (not the cyclist's fault!) on a blind corner without batting an eyelid, and coming within a whisker of touching boots down on the Wallaceville side of the Whitemans Valley road.

Top stuff judecatmad and looking forward to more rides soon.

yungatart
8th March 2007, 21:30
Nice to know that they become fun - when you know what you are doing, I guess. At the moment I dislike them, intensely almost, especially downhill lefthanders!
Do you think you could talk him into coming up here to show me how it's done?

Deviant Esq
8th March 2007, 21:44
Great stuff jude and Jim2! Always good little stories to read. Without meaning any offence to newer riders (hell, I'm one, and I'm not offended... :blip:), guys like Jim2 are extremely valuable. Taking the time to team up with someone who could use the tuition... he makes it sound like no effort at all, but having the mindset, the patience to teach and the willingness to take the time to go out and do it, do it well, and even enjoy doing it and getting a buzz out of it too... I just wish there were more like him.

Jim2: My hat goes off to you, mate. You do the biking community as a whole a hell of a service without even realising it. The more learners that love riding even more because of a little tuition... the better for biking. Bling well earned. Looking forward to those inspirational videos! :niceone:

James Deuce
8th March 2007, 21:44
Nice to know that they become fun - when you know what you are doing, I guess. At the moment I dislike them, intensely almost, especially downhill lefthanders!
Do you think you could talk him into coming up here to show me how it's done?

Heeeeyyy! I just thought of something.

What is it with you chicks throwing your bikes on the ground the first time I ride with you?

I'm not THAT scary, surely?

I'd love to head up there mate, the weather'd be perfect about now.

Watch this space. Can't ignore a plea like that.

James Deuce
8th March 2007, 21:54
Jim2: My hat goes off to you, mate. You do the biking community as a whole a hell of a service without even realising it. The more learners that love riding even more because of a little tuition... the better for biking. Bling well earned. Looking forward to those inspirational videos! :niceone:

You've made me blush.

At the back of my mind, Bruce Hannaford is always inspiring me to get out there and do this sort of thing. I can't fill his shoes, but I can bloody well try to keep the spirit of what he was doing in Wellington alive.

quallman1234
8th March 2007, 21:57
Nice job jude :Punk: - Looking forward to the vids :).

skelstar
8th March 2007, 22:07
I know Bruce would approve. On ya J2!

Wasp
8th March 2007, 22:20
He sure would, on ya Jim!

James Deuce
8th March 2007, 22:46
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The first half of the video is pretty interesting. jude is limiting her options quite a bit by diving into corners early, running wide, and coming on and off the throttle mid corner. Note how she quite often disappears off camera due to the, erm, interesting lines she was taking.

The second half looks like a different rider. She has her head up, upper body relaxed and is flowing into and through corners. She really got much better later on too. Note how she stays almost dead centre in the viewfinder this time.

This is all down to judecatmad though. She wanted help and chose to listen and apply some of my waffle immediately. Three thumbs up!

(For those who want to know, the music is Judith by A Perfect Circle - I thought it apt)

skelstar
8th March 2007, 22:54
ah ha...when you mentioned three thumbs I assumed you were in the Wairarapa not Blue Mountains.

judecatmad
9th March 2007, 06:20
Thanks for the vids Jim - I only wish you'd been videoing the trip down the other side of that hill we did cos I really felt as tho I'd got it proper by that point! :D :woohoo: :woohoo:

And altho I never knew Bruce, I'm sure he'd be very proud of you the way you're keeping the mentoring thing going - and the fact that you never shouted 'oh my god do you actually have a bike licence at all????' at me! :rofl:

Looking forward to the next lesson :)

apteryx_haasti
9th March 2007, 06:31
Hey Jude and Jim -

Haven't managed to watch the videos (my broadband at work 'computer says no') and at home I'm on dialup...

Jude - you may have to take me on a ride and show me yourself!!

Jim - hi buddy - I might look you up for some pointers myself - can I drop you a pm sometime (I'll try not to drop anything else, like my bike)

Squeak the Rat
9th March 2007, 07:18
1:38, pulling out from the curb and while indicating left! :nono: :lol:


But seriously, it's always great to see people taking responsibility for improving their riding, and just as good seeing competent people give up their time to help.

yungatart
9th March 2007, 07:23
Heeeeyyy! I just thought of something.

What is it with you chicks throwing your bikes on the ground the first time I ride with you?

I'm not THAT scary, surely?

I'd love to head up there mate, the weather'd be perfect about now.

Watch this space. Can't ignore a plea like that.

Noooo, you're not scary at all - a bit intimidating, maybe, but not scary...:dodge:
The weather is absolutely perfect - make it quick!!

Duc
9th March 2007, 07:43
Good stuff.

Can I respectfully add a tip for what its worth.

When leaving the kerb, apart from checking the mirrors, a quick look over the shoulder can be a "lifesaver".

James Deuce
9th March 2007, 07:49
When leaving the kerb, apart from checking the mirrors, a quick look over the shoulder can be a "lifesaver".

We had that talk. And because JCM is a quick study it never needed to be mentioned again.

judecatmad
9th March 2007, 08:01
1:38, pulling out from the curb and while indicating left! :nono: :lol:


But seriously, it's always great to see people taking responsibility for improving their riding, and just as good seeing competent people give up their time to help.

I was going around a left hand corner....! But yes, I saw that too. I didn't indicate when I pulled out from the kerb. Point taken. Must do better next time.

*sigh*

Not a good morning today :(

Squeak the Rat
9th March 2007, 08:05
I was going around a left hand corner....! But yes, I saw that too. I didn't indicate when I pulled out from the kerb. Point taken. Must do better next time.

*sigh*

Not a good morning today :(

Ooops, t'was meant to be a funny and not to cause offence in any way (and was more directed at the teacher). The net effect of the session far outweighed any minor indescretions......

Hope your day gets better - think of the corners this weekend :scooter:

judecatmad
9th March 2007, 08:20
Ooops, t'was meant to be a funny and not to cause offence in any way (and was more directed at the teacher). The net effect of the session far outweighed any minor indescretions......

Hope your day gets better - think of the corners this weekend :scooter:

LOL, not taken as such :)

Sense of humour failure on my part this morning! Another lesson was learnt this morning - never, ever ride while totally knackered :(

Kendog
9th March 2007, 08:38
Had a bit of a corners lesson with Jim2 this evening - he's a patient man! Boy oh boy, when you finally get the idea, corners do get to be bloody good fun! Even on the ginny....

I have never before felt so confident on a road I've never ridden before, and have never before done corners at speed (well, speed for me is anything over 20kph...but from small acorns...).


Great to hear JCM. You are on the past to more and more enjoyment from riding your bike.


At the back of my mind, Bruce Hannaford is always inspiring me to get out there and do this sort of thing. I can't fill his shoes, but I can bloody well try to keep the spirit of what he was doing in Wellington alive.

You rock Jim, keep up the good work.

Fatjim
9th March 2007, 09:18
Looked at the vid and I couldn't tell the difference, although Bruce always used to say my lines where crazy. He never knew where i was going be on the road so kept his distance. I think it's got something to do with me being blind in one eye. :)

Good on ya Jim, I might borrow you one day myself.

Trudes
9th March 2007, 09:21
Great stuff you two!!:rockon: Love that song too! Maybe I'd better follow your lines tomorrow Jude!:yes:

judecatmad
9th March 2007, 09:55
Great stuff you two!!:rockon: Love that song too! Maybe I'd better follow your lines tomorrow Jude!:yes:

Yeah, I love the song as well. Never heard it before, but I think it might be one for the iPod!

Erm, no, I think I might follow you tomorrow!

bistard
9th March 2007, 09:56
Fantastic,young Jim,well done,it takes a certain kind of person to be able to pass on knowledge,I know a lot of people who can do it,but cant find either the words,or the patience Keep it up!!
Well done JCM,get a copy of the video,changeit around a bit & you say you kicked Jims arse over the Blue Mountains road
By the way I could do with a few pointers!!
hahaha

Deviant Esq
9th March 2007, 10:19
:rofl:

Yeah definitely does take a certain type of person with the right mindset to make the choice to help less experienced riders out, have the patience for it, and do it sucessfully. Was just having that conversation with Jim!

I noticed the difference right away, part 2 was really good, great stuff Jude :niceone: Lots more practice... hell, never give up practicing I say! I don't intend to! (S)he who thinks (s)he can't learn more is going to suffer for it.

Btw, if you like that music, the singer is Maynard James Keenan, also known as the singer for TOOL, my favourite band. Another fan, perhaps? ;)

judecatmad
9th March 2007, 10:28
Well done JCM,get a copy of the video,changeit around a bit & you say you kicked Jims arse over the Blue Mountains road

Ooh no! My chances of future assistance would be much reduced if I did that! LOL

I love the 'no ginnys were hurt in the making of this film' part at the end :rofl:

Trudes
9th March 2007, 17:15
Ahhh, that could explain why I like TOOL too then!