NZ Production Superbike championship

[White trash]

With all the awesome racing going on around the world right now, we seem to have forgotten that we're nearing the end of one of the closest NZ Superbike championships for ages.
Who do you reckon will take it this weekend?

Ya got Mr Consistantly at the front Andrew Stroud on 158 points I think. Then you've got a super quick aussy bloke in Robbie Bugden on 152 and Craig Sheriffs with a mathematical shot at the title on 126.

Who's your money on?

[kiwifruit]

Im a big Stroud fan, the man is a legend :first:

I was in a servo in Turangi a few months back waiting at the counter to pay for my gas.... got a tap on the shoulder.... it was Stroudy! "Hello Allan" he said. That made my week :sunny: Pretty cool considering ive only met him a couple of times :D

[onearmedbandit]

It's got to be Mr Cool, Calm, Collected, Stroud.

[Matt Bleck]

I would love to see Sherriffs get it this time....

[White trash]

Apparently, Mr Cool, Calm, Collected killed a motor on his his 600 yesterday.

[White trash]

I would love to see Sherriffs get it this time....
So would I mate. But I honestly don't think he can do it. And in the 600s, Sam Smith is really killing them all.

[Matt Bleck]

So would I mate. But I honestly don't think he can do it. And in the 600s, Sam Smith is really killing them all.

Anything can happen in racing, fingers crossed!

[Scouse]

Stroud one the 1000 and young Sam will take the 600 title

[Ivan]

and Adam Chambers in the 125's?

[R6_kid]

i think this thread is about production bike racing (ie 1000 and 600) sorry ivan.

Sam Smith is a given. Going by the racing i saw last year Stroud will take it out, never know though, might have to make an effort to get down there for a watch.

[HDTboy]

After this morning's fun I'd like to see Jay, and Sam battle it out for the 600s on the day, and stroud up there with them. The K7 1000 Andrew was on today sounds horn

[James Deuce]

Yeah I've forgotten about it. Without buying trade publications I wouldn't even know there was motorcycle racing in NZ.

We get more info about MotoGP in the NZ press.

[Pussy]

Im a big Stroud fan, the man is a legend :first:

I was in a servo in Turangi a few months back waiting at the counter to pay for my gas.... got a tap on the shoulder.... it was Stroudy! "Hello Allan" he said. That made my week :sunny: Pretty cool considering ive only met him a couple of times :D
Would have been better if your name wasn't Cyril

[GIXser]

its a shame Sherriffs wrote off his new 600 a week after paeroa ( he only picked it up from ray c, the night before paeroa) so im guessing he's on the old bike, i agree with most , sam will take it out though , and as much as i would like to see sherriffs take the thou,, i believe it will be stroud,

[Clivoris]

My wife wants one of those "bronzed and spunky" aussies to win super sport. She's got no taste in men or motorcyclists. I'd love to see Craig win too but it doesn't look like his year. Sam is looking good. That Jay fullah is riding good too. He might be fast one day:laugh: Andrew Stroud has to be the man in Superbikes.
I can't believe how good the racing has been. So competitive with the aussies here and it's been a brilliant move to get them over.

[mikey]

aussies 9seaton charlton r.bungdyindian are/were coming 20th > in aus, yet keeping up / beating nz's finest. NZ racers are slow.

[cowpoos]

stroud got given a new toy at the track yesterday..... K7 thou!!!! he's qualifeid both his bikes so can race either....be interesting to see which one he chooses!!!

[Shaun]

Andrew will do what he is told to do by the powers that be! and we all know he will give it his best shot, a bit strange I think to bring a new bike un tested to the last round of the champs?

Maybe Suzuki has Robbie on a much lower bonus contract figure?

[R6_kid]

aussies 9seaton charlton r.bungdyindian are/were coming 20th > in aus, yet keeping up / beating nz's finest. NZ racers are slow.

you're a smart boy, what about Bruce Anstey in IOM? There isnt much of a racing breed in NZ - Australia, Europe, USA etc all have fields of 30+ bikes racing at club level which makes them a lot more competitive, not to mention the incentives offered not only in the forms of prize money but 'position pay' offered by manufacturers for racing their brand and achieving top 5 placings etc, they also have training schemes to jump start young talent... oh and lets not forget the whole demographic/(fast racers per capita) bullshit.

[Shaun]

Bugger for Mr Stroud

[onearmedbandit]

Well I guess that's not a good indicator Shaun...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bugger for Mr Stroud

Yo Shaun!

What's the deal with yourself? Have you had enough of the race scene here?

You're riding at the 'Isle' yeah?

[Shaun]

Andy lost to robbie in the points battle.

Chrasher, to cut a long story, yes-and yes mate

[mikey]

as a matter of interest, in most other other national sports, competitors normally were born or have lived in the country for a few years. whast up with letting some aussies come and race?

[onearmedbandit]

As you said mate, NZ racers are slow so we have to let in some fast foreigners so we can get better. There's hope for NZ yet eh...

[Scouse]

As you said mate, NZ racers are slow so we have to let in some fast foreigners so we can get better. There's hope for NZ yet eh...Youn 19 year old Sam Smith certainly caned some Aussie arse today

[onearmedbandit]

Yup. I was taking the piss.

[cowpoos]

Bugger for Mr Stroud
you should hav seen robbie bugman go for a play on the grass just after the left hander after the hairpin!!! WHOOOOOOA!!!!! nelly!!!!....he'll need a new set of rio's....last lap....even held his place in front of stroud!!!

[Bytor]

Awesome racing today:Punk:

Sam Smith was brilliant, infact every race was brilliant.

Anyone know what happened to the side car guys and the post classic guys who had some major offs? Neither looked very good at all.
Hope all is well...

[GIXser]

Awesome racing today:Punk:

Sam Smith was brilliant, infact every race was brilliant.

Anyone know what happened to the side car guys and the post classic guys who had some major offs? Neither looked very good at all.
Hope all is well...

i heard one of the swingers died on the scene...

[Motig]

Anyone know how Andy Bolwell got on in the F3 ?

[cowpoos]

Anyone know how Andy Bolwell got on in the F3 ?
2nd..... in the TT...ca't remeber the others though!!
won f3 overall for the season

[cowpoos]

Anyone know how Andy Bolwell got on in the F3 ?


2nd..... in the TT...ca't remeber the others though!!

I think?????????????

[crashe]

Anyone know what happened to the side car guys and the post classic guys who had some major offs? Neither looked very good at all.
Hope all is well...


i heard one of the swingers died on the scene...

To give you the media release quote....... that I received at 8.15pm tonight.

SpankMe is aware and can pull this off if need be.... and apparently he saw it on TV news tonight.

I have left out their names out of respect to the family and friends of these racers.


NZ Police CommCens Alert 20:00 11-03-2007 Counties Manukau

Location of incident: Pukekohe

Incident Type: Media Release

PRESS RELEASE

SUNDAY 11TH MARCH 2007 1930HRS

A motor racing accident occurred today at the Pukekohe Raceway at approximately 11.45am. The father and son sidecar team were entered in the TT 2007 Super bike Championship. It appears from witness accounts at the scene the driver lost control of the bike when entering the straight into start/ finish line. The bike collided with an Armco barrier with extreme force.

The driver Mr ------- suffered minor injuries however his 19 year old son ------------ suffered serious head injuries and was transported to Middlemore Hospital.

Mr --------- condition has not changed and is still in critical care.

Investigations are still continuing into the accident as the cause of it is undetermined.

W.D.PAXTON

Constable

PUKEKOHE
Issued by: Inspector Gavin MacDonald

[Drew]

Anyone got the final results written down, or commited to memory?

Just wondering how Jay did, seeing as how he's gonna be my compitition at the hill climb next weekend.

[kiwicam]

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[Rick]

Results are on here http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=190168

[onearmedbandit]

Kiwicam, did you find out who that guy was? What was his problem?

[Motig]

Thanks Rick. If I added up right Andy won the F3 Championship by 3 points,:first: :Punk:

[enigma51]

What pisses me off that there have been no mention of the close racing on the news (except for the crash) and in about 2 years we might see some highlights on the box.

No lets rather hear about american foot ball! But dont feel to bad guys not even motogp made an apearance.


O yes for those that have not noticed yet the motogp has come back to sky sport

[oldguy]

Kiwicam, did you find out who that guy was? What was his problem?

I went saturday, saw that Kiwicam guy interviewing Keystone19,

[kiwicam]

Kiwicam, did you find out who that guy was? What was his problem?

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[cowpoos]

Thanks Rick. If I added up right Andy won the F3 Championship by 3 points,:first: :Punk:
yep he won!

[Bytor]

The posties were fine.

Good, coz one of them flew over the barriers. Spectacular but still turned my gut to watch:sick:

[Shaun]

Kiwicam, did you find out who that guy was? What was his problem?




That guy was MR Jim T, he does a shit load for the road race scene in New Zealand, he has a very direct nature as any one that watches the video can see. Some times he comes across a little strong, but please believe me, he does do a hell of lot for our sport.

[svs]

So where's the media coverage? (apart from the sidecar crash)

So far there's nothing on any of the news sites, mnz's web site etc. Only mentions of the racing is this thread.

Where was the mention of the results on Powertools Motorsport on TV1 - ok, they'll have coverage next week.

mylaps has the results, but where's the press release? What happened to Chris Seaton?

[onearmedbandit]

That guy was MR Jim T, he does a shit load for the road race scene in New Zealand, he has a very direct nature as any one that watches the video can see. Some times he comes across a little strong, but please believe me, he does do a hell of lot for our sport.


Yeah, I thought he must be pretty active in the racing scene, as he was seriously wound up about it. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't disrespecting the chap, just curious about why he was so angry.

[Riff Raff]

What happened to Chris Seaton?

He dislocated his shoulder on Saturday and decided to give it a rest as he has big race in Aussie next weekend.

[Jimmy B]

Good, coz one of them flew over the barriers. Spectacular but still turned my gut to watch:sick:

It happened right in front of us, not so much flew over the barrier but rolled over by himself to get off the side of the track. Glad to see them both walk away.

[Bytor]

It happened right in front of us, not so much flew over the barrier but rolled over by himself to get off the side of the track. Glad to see them both walk away.

Thank god for that coz from contact he and the bike(triumph?) were airborn and it looked like a nasty landing - didn't see him roll over as I was out of view, just saw the paramedics go over the barriers. He's a very lucky guy.

[Jimmy B]

Thank god for that coz from contact he and the bike(triumph?) were airborn and it looked like a nasty landing - didn't see him roll over as I was out of view, just saw the paramedics go over the barriers. He's a very lucky guy.

Pretty spectacular alright, blue bike was a Ducati and the red one I think may have been either a Honda or Suzuki

[kiwicam]

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[denill]

Yeah, I thought he must be pretty active in the racing scene, as he was seriously wound up about it.


Yeah, but what did he see as being a problem??

[Shaun]

Yeah, but what did he see as being a problem??

My guess would be, he thought the person with the camera might be from some other organisation than the ones that they had a contract with for the filming of the event, hense his coment about people paying to be there????

[bistard]

I still cant believe we a have an Aussie as our Superbike National Champion
Whats up with that??

[Shaun]

I still cant believe we a have an Aussie as our Superbike National Champion
Whats up with that??

I think it stinks but is also fantastic- Why- I believe that having Robbie take out the champs will lead to a bigger exsposure for our sport, we can now bill it as a true Trans-tasman championship!

This in turn will/can lead to a greater market exsposure as well as possibly bringing more Aussie/International riders to our series, which in turn can only lift the lever of NZ riders.

Yea it sucks that he has it, but I bet it makes Andrew a better rider fior next season.

After all that, Robbie did a brilliant job, and was a great guy, who rode his balls out, and did not ever give up or slow down, he was just so focused and confident.

[Pussy]

Yep, good on him. He won it fair and square

[onearmedbandit]

Yup, if it's within the rules (which it is) then good on him. And as Shaun says it may just bring up the international exposure of what should be our national sport. Hmm, imagine that. Every young child dreams of being MotoGP champ/etc.

[White trash]

To see the final lap of the Superbike TT was phenominal. Robbie wanted THAT BAD, him and Charlton ran out of road on the second to last turn, Bugden using the grass, at max throttle, and STILL managing to stay ahead of Stroud.

Big respect to Brian Bernard and his setup. He's managing to do what Mike Pero did for the NZ V8s and is really lifting the bar in terms of what others need to aspire to.

[Ivan]

Great to see the aussies coming out shows how we need to ride big ups to the kiwis for doing so well against them


Cant wiat for my full nat 125 season this year

[kiwicam]

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[blackstarninja]

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Awesome footage dude , any chance of more footage if you have it ? awesome to see as I couldnt make it to puke on the weekend :(

[bistard]

I think it stinks but is also fantastic- Why- I believe that having Robbie take out the champs will lead to a bigger exsposure for our sport, we can now bill it as a true Trans-tasman championship!

This in turn will/can lead to a greater market exsposure as well as possibly bringing more Aussie/International riders to our series, which in turn can only lift the lever of NZ riders.

Yea it sucks that he has it, but I bet it makes Andrew a better rider fior next season.

After all that, Robbie did a brilliant job, and was a great guy, who rode his balls out, and did not ever give up or slow down, he was just so focused and confident.

Shaun,I totally agree,great exposure for us here!!Its just that age old Kiwi Aussie thing I suppose
I was so impressed with Robbie Bugden at Manfeild,never seen the place before the friday practise,saturday qualifying,was on or under the lap record
He has talent thats for sure & look forward to more trans tasman rivalry

[denill]

Shaun,I totally agree,great exposure for us here!!Its just that age old Kiwi Aussie thing I suppose
I was so impressed with Robbie Bugden at Manfeild,never seen the place before the friday practise,saturday qualifying,was on or under the lap record
He has talent thats for sure & look forward to more trans tasman rivalry


And there's a bucket of talent over there!!

One of the highlights of a visit to the PI MotoGP round is Saturday's Aussie Superbikes and SuperSports racing.

I never ever imagined to see such hard, close racing.
Expect to see 5 or 6 swapping paint and the lead on every lap. On any lap the race can be lead by 5 different riders.
They ride like they play cricket. Mean and hard.

[bistard]

Yes,the Aussie Supers are great,but more to the point,you have four or five teenagers,riding at the front of the class,riding different brands,going Fucking hard & swapping paint,its like what our 250 Production racing used to be like
Awesome to watch & now you can see why there are a number of Aussies on the world stage at a very young age,Casey Stoney for instance
If we can get our youngsters competing with them & bring the level of our riders up,will be fantastic
Now,we just need to come up with a plan to get it done
Firstly,I think NZ & Aussie should run the same rules for classes,so it would be easier to go back & forth,look how Sam Smith has grown this year with exposure to the Aussie series

[denill]

Firstly,I think NZ & Aussie should run the same rules for classes,so it would be easier to go back & forth,look how Sam Smith has grown this year with exposure to the Aussie series

Vote bistard on to MNZ:yes: :yes:

[bistard]

Vote bistard on to MNZ:yes: :yes:

Ha Ha ha,been there done that,got the tee shirt!!
Still have nightmares about the politics,egos & frustrations

[Shaun]

Ha Ha ha,been there done that,got the tee shirt!!
Still have nightmares about the politics,egos & frustrations

Harden up ya softy

[bistard]

Harden up ya softy

Ok then Shaun,I will harden up,the therapy has worked a treat & I only hear the voices every now & then
But all jokes aside,how long have you been suggesting changes to MNZ,through different mediums & the riders still do nothing!!!!

[svs]

Casey Stoney for instance

Didn't casey do all his early riding in Europe?

With Aus & NZ running the same rules, they were talking about it at the MNZ AGM last year - don't know what's happened though. They wanted the Aus 600 rules to come down to our level, and our superbike rules down to Aus level. Don't know the details, but the idea was there. Wonder what happened?

[bistard]

Didn't casey do all his early riding in Europe?

With Aus & NZ running the same rules, they were talking about it at the MNZ AGM last year - don't know what's happened though. They wanted the Aus 600 rules to come down to our level, and our superbike rules down to Aus level. Don't know the details, but the idea was there. Wonder what happened?

Yes Casey did start off in Europe
As for the MNZ details,nothing would have happened,or I know this sounds bad,but the rules will change with not enough time to be ready for either Championship,or after the bikes,parts etc have been purchased & bikes built
The competitors/Teams need at least 12 months notice of what is happening

[Shaun]

Ok then Shaun,I will harden up,the therapy has worked a treat & I only hear the voices every now & then
But all jokes aside,how long have you been suggesting changes to MNZ,through different mediums & the riders still do nothing!!!!



I know mate, and it really pises me off. The whole fault lies with the riders them selves, and all they want to do is blaim MNZ, what a joke.

Can you recall me putting a propersition to all MNZ road race licence holders 3-5 years ago, a letter where I proposed that we form a committee and HIRE a promotor for ourselves ( The riders) I sent out over 150 letters, and I got 35 replies I think from memory, The money they would have saved by the season end with group purchase deals etc, would have more than offset the small amount of start up I asked each rider for, ( Blind fools)

This is a major part I why I find it so hard to get excited about racing here now, the same old shit on another day, riders stand around blaming MNZ for every thing they can think of.

[Shaun]

Didn't casey do all his early riding in Europe?

With Aus & NZ running the same rules, they were talking about it at the MNZ AGM last year - don't know what's happened though. They wanted the Aus 600 rules to come down to our level, and our superbike rules down to Aus level. Don't know the details, but the idea was there. Wonder what happened?

I do not know any details about what you are talking about, but one thing I do know, and I am sure some may take this wrong or to heart, but I am used to upsetting people with FACT

The problem in New Zealand with real up and coming talent is, There is not enough riders out there who are strong enough mentally to do what ever it takes to get to the top, ( Guess that is a sign of our trendy soft O do not fart country these days) that means having a single minded vision of being a true professional motor cycle racer, and chasing that goal no matter what it takes.

I have learned a shite load about the NZ racing scene over the last 18months, and most of it has come from this board ( Wonderfull mediam, Thanks Spankme)

Every one sits around and winges about the cost of it all, instead of just going out and getting another job and getting on with it, then I have seen riders get given what A Stroud or A Slight or myself or Crafer or many others from way back would have killed for, and the riders do not even really appreciate nor understand what they have been given!

I know one thing is for sure with me and riders in the future, I will not be helping any rider who is not helping them self, I will only let myself get involved with a rider if they eat -shit -breath- Motorcycle racing, I do not have the patience for trying to help out with riders that are not prepared to give 100% FRIENDS EXCLUDED FROM THIS STATEMENT.

Dom Jones In America
Hayden Fitzgerald In the UK
Jay Lawrence- The future starts soon

These are our current International riders ( Correct me if I am wrong)

Sam Smith, He is the SHIT!! He will go all the way, why< because he can, and loves what he does as well as having a great management team around him, I would love to see a sindicate of Buisness people fund this man on his way. $ 120K NZ would buy him one of the best seats in the House in the British Supersport class or in the European Superstock class, where he could carve a real future for himself.

Brian Bernard and racing in New Zealand

With what Brian and Casey have done with there racing buisness here is fantastic and a credit to them and the sponsors that have supported there program BUT, they need to have Aussie riders on the bikes because there is not enough top riders here to fullfill these positions, and that is sad.

Peter Jones in the Sth Island and his crew, I witnessed some of the best racing I have seen in the 150 class that they race, but most of those riders are still kids, and who know's who is going to be there in the future.

So what is and where is the future of our sport coming from

[cowpoos]

I do not know any details about what you are talking about, but one thing I do know, and I am sure some may take this wrong or to heart, but I am used to upsetting people with FACT

The problem in New Zealand with real up and coming talent is, There is not enough riders out there who are strong enough mentally to do what ever it takes to get to the top, ( Guess that is a sign of our trendy soft O do not fart country these days) that means having a single minded vision of being a true professional motor cycle racer, and chasing that goal no matter what it takes.

I have learned a shite load about the NZ racing scene over the last 18months, and most of it has come from this board ( Wonderfull mediam, Thanks Spankme)

Every one sits around and winges about the cost of it all, instead of just going out and getting another job and getting on with it, then I have seen riders get given what A Stroud or A Slight or myself or Crafer or many others from way back would have killed for, and the riders do not even really appreciate nor understand what they have been given!

I know one thing is for sure with me and riders in the future, I will not be helping any rider who is not helping them self, I will only let myself get involved with a rider if they eat -shit -breath- Motorcycle racing, I do not have the patience for trying to help out with riders that are not prepared to give 100% FRIENDS EXCLUDED FROM THIS STATEMENT.

Dom Jones In America
Hayden Fitzgerald In the UK
Jay Lawrence- The future starts soon

These are our current International riders ( Correct me if I am wrong)

Sam Smith, He is the SHIT!! He will go all the way, why< because he can, and loves what he does as well as having a great management team around him, I would love to see a sindicate of Buisness people fund this man on his way. $ 120K NZ would buy him one of the best seats in the House in the British Supersport class or in the European Superstock class, where he could carve a real future for himself.

Brian Bernard and racing in New Zealand

With what Brian and Casey have done with there racing buisness here is fantastic and a credit to them and the sponsors that have supported there program BUT, they need to have Aussie riders on the bikes because there is not enough top riders here to fullfill these positions, and that is sad.

Peter Jones in the Sth Island and his crew, I witnessed some of the best racing I have seen in the 150 class that they race, but most of those riders are still kids, and who know's who is going to be there in the future.

So what is and where is the future of our sport coming from

why don't you run for MNZ??

You make some very very good points...

I'm still left wondering why after a brillent club racing scene over the winter months and early spring with apparently record entries what happened to everyone come nat's time?? I have a feeling it might have something to do with the fact you have to qualify within 115% of the fastest qualifying times...and I'm not sure many people a prepared to take the risk of traveling down to the bottom of the south island and then been told they can't race!!
the rule is a fair one from safety points of veiw...but even riders who would make those times on the tracks they know in the north island...will worry if they can or not compete at that level on tracks they don't know...
besides $$$ and time,etc....that was one of my concerns about racing in the nats this year down south.... but next year...after hearing and seeing how far some riders have come [eg:kickingzebra] over the nats....and having a over whelming case of frustration watching the racers out on pukie over the weekend wishing I was out there racing [even knowing in my head i would get slaughtered out there in production superbikes] I'm gunna just bloody do it!!
the tales of nat's series sound like fun just in its self...and experiences...learning off the top level riders...etc

[bistard]

Fantastic to hear Poos,that is the sort of attitude the sport needs more of
"Just go & do it"
The big problem I see with the step up from Club level to the Nationals,is not just the qualifying,It is very much a time & money thing
To do a Vic Club meeting,you can pre enter for $65.00,turn up on the day,practise,get three races & go home
The Nationals,for instance to do the South Island,you need three weeks off work,pre enter $150.00 per round,have to travel south,ferry tickets,accommodation & food for the time period,if you want to learn a new track,you need to do Friday practise another $100.00 & after all that you still think you will get your arse kicked,It is seen to be hard,but its not
What I would suggest is get a few guys together & support each other,two of you with similar ambitions,travel in a van,bus,bikes on a trailer,what ever
"JUST DO IT"
That is sort of what I have seen on this website & is great to see
If nothing else,do your local National meeting & build towards next year
Its not that hard,if you have read a few of the other threads on here with the write ups from the competitors,its FUN,you learn more,you meet some neat people

[Ivan]

I do every thing for racing I work as a mechanic to learn how paid for my national meeting, got out there knew I wasnt going to win but still kept pushing and my lap times kept droping,

All my money is now going to getting a rebuilt engine some new tires as slicks after 2 years just dont work, and then pre enter the vic winter series,

Save some more money up,


And try my hardest to get down the South Island and compete in all the national series.


Racing is hard............ Yes, Nationals are not as bad as people think, yes the guys are fast but if you put your mind to it you can be fast too, how did sam go so fast? he went fast because of a good bike good rider and a good team and he is there to win %10 bike %90 rider

Its up to you,

Yes soem people might diss me for saying this but I am there learning pushing myself each race, each race I do shit I say I did shit, but I go even harder the next race.

My plans for my future is to race Philip Island support class next year as well.

Racing is my life yes........ ask my mates who talk on MSN to me all I talk about is bikes,

[Cleve]

At the age of 41 and after my first season of club racing (well I did a few races when I was in my 20's but...) I decided that I would do one round of the Nat's. And I would do it at Manfeild. I was worried about how I would do and what would happen, however I was determined to give it a go. In the club rounds I am not last, I am mid pack, so I knew I wasn't THAT bad.

I felt a new person after doing the 2 20 lappers at the Manfeild Nats. I got lapped twice by the fast guys but I got down to 1.15's and learnt more that weekend than the rest of the previous year. The experience, the atmosphere and the step up in intensity is a drug!

Any club racer thinking about it but not sure, I say GO FOR IT. You WILL have NO regrets. Just a desire for more and better racing.

[GIXser]

Heard wrong sorry.

im glad to hear it man!!

[scrivy]

Some of you may know me and the meeting that Chris Lawrance and I run at Taupo at the end of December. We get far more competitors than the NZ National Road Race Series. Is this because novice/club riders are too scared to race with the fast guys, or don't want to be shown up?
When I started out 20 years ago, I was just 18, and my swinger (sidecar bob on Kiwi Biker) Steve Bryan and I had never raced before on a sidecar (or even seen one for that matter), and had never even seen the race tracks of NZ before!
We had a sidecar built for $1600 (and believe me-it was a piece of shit), but we were young and stupid and brave, and we entered all the National rounds.
The fast experienced guys were just that, FAST!! But they only got there by racing constantly and with lots of practice and dedication. After several rounds (back then we did 7 for the title!) we even got some 3rds and a second placing! Remember, we were on a $1600 machine!! After round 7, we managed to come 3rd overall in the series!! At just 18 we were on top of the world!!
My point is: Don't think other competitors are unbeatable. Don't think that to beat them you need the absolute latest machinery. Everyone learns their skills on pieces of shit, and when they upgrade to newer weapons, they carry over their practiced skills and hone them on faster gear, which then puts them in touch with the front runners.
Don't be scared of the fast guys. They were once in your position. Please don't think that they are unapproachable. If you ask them questions on set up etc., you'll usually get an informative answer that will help you out immensely. Remember, if new guys don't keep coming into the sport, then the front runners won't have anyone to race against!! And what happens to the sport we all love when the front runners call it a day??

Scrivy

[Shaun]

I do every thing for racing I work as a mechanic to learn how paid for my national meeting, got out there knew I wasnt going to win but still kept pushing and my lap times kept droping,

All my money is now going to getting a rebuilt engine some new tires as slicks after 2 years just dont work, and then pre enter the vic winter series,

Save some more money up,


And try my hardest to get down the South Island and compete in all the national series.


Racing is hard............ Yes, Nationals are not as bad as people think, yes the guys are fast but if you put your mind to it you can be fast too, how did sam go so fast? he went fast because of a good bike good rider and a good team and he is there to win %10 bike %90 rider

Its up to you,

Yes soem people might diss me for saying this but I am there learning pushing myself each race, each race I do shit I say I did shit, but I go even harder the next race.

My plans for my future is to race Philip Island support class next year as well.

Racing is my life yes........ ask my mates who talk on MSN to me all I talk about is bikes,

Ivan, My post was not aimed at anyone in paticular, it was aimed at the amount of riders that sit around wghinging!!

You my friend are a fine example of a young man trying to go forward, and with the attitude that you disply, I can see you being a future top rider of our country and maybe more beyond these shores.

[kiwifruit]

Some of you may know me and the meeting that Chris Lawrance and I run at Taupo at the end of December. We get far more competitors than the NZ National Road Race Series. Is this because novice/club riders are too scared to race with the fast guys, or don't want to be shown up?
When I started out 20 years ago, I was just 18, and my swinger (sidecar bob on Kiwi Biker) Steve Bryan and I had never raced before on a sidecar (or even seen one for that matter), and had never even seen the race tracks of NZ before!
We had a sidecar built for $1600 (and believe me-it was a piece of shit), but we were young and stupid and brave, and we entered all the National rounds.
The fast experienced guys were just that, FAST!! But they only got there by racing constantly and with lots of practice and dedication. After several rounds (back then we did 7 for the title!) we even got some 3rds and a second placing! Remember, we were on a $1600 machine!! After round 7, we managed to come 3rd overall in the series!! At just 18 we were on top of the world!!
My point is: Don't think other competitors are unbeatable. Don't think that to beat them you need the absolute latest machinery. Everyone learns their skills on pieces of shit, and when they upgrade to newer weapons, they carry over their practiced skills and hone them on faster gear, which then puts them in touch with the front runners.
Don't be scared of the fast guys. They were once in your position. Please don't think that they are unapproachable. If you ask them questions on set up etc., you'll usually get an informative answer that will help you out immensely. Remember, if new guys don't keep coming into the sport, then the front runners won't have anyone to race against!! And what happens to the sport we all love when the front runners call it a day??

Scrivy

Great post, cheers

[Ivan]

Ivan, My post was not aimed at anyone in paticular, it was aimed at the amount of riders that sit around wghinging!!

You my friend are a fine example of a young man trying to go forward, and with the attitude that you disply, I can see you being a future top rider of our country and maybe more beyond these shores.

Haha thanks Shaun,
Wasnt ment to sound like that I was trying to say to people who read these things and think racing is to hard and too expensive that it is possible.


Cheers for what you siad it made my night

[kiwicam]

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125GP qualifying on saturday and the points race on sunday..spectators eye view

[Ivan]

sorry not me I wasnt at Pukekohe I was at Manfield nats only

[Ivan]

Those Vids are cool, I get the Aussies mixed up is that Chris Seaton who stopped? any ways good sportsmanship by him

[kiwicam]

pretty sure that was scotty(no python)charlton . sorry about that ivan i almost saw a #59 in there

[Ivan]

all good everyone makes a mistake,
Man Im busting to getback out there again and improve even more haha