Yamaha Diversion?

[greenhorn]

Anyone heard of one of these? Came across it on Trademe. A dealers got it. Its a '91 400cc
Seems pretty cheap for the price, only 1500k's. Did a search on google and all i can find is stuff on a XJ900. Wonder if it is similar or what?
Anyone know anything about these things?
Looks like a nice bike in the picture and the XJ900 got a good write up at least. I'm looking around for a beginers bike and the 400cc capacity will likely not be a problem as i can get an exemption cos i'm a big fat bastard.
Any info/links on a yamaha diversion 400 would be gratefully recieved

Cheers :2thumbsup

[greenhorn]

correction: its done 15,500 k's not 1500

[White trash]

Good bikes but Japanese market only.

WMCC have one for $6 grand.

[greenhorn]

Cheers Wt
Are they a 4cyl... do you have any other info on them?

[Mongoose]

That sounds like something you might have to do to save going to court :whistle:

[jrandom]

i can get an exemption cos i'm a big fat bastard.

What? From the licencing requirements? Bollocks.

Really?

[StoneChucker]

An exemption, from the cc restriction? For being a fat bastard?
Well, I'm a relatively "fat bastard" and I had to sit on a 250cc till I got my full licence, so don't hold your breath!

You can get an exemption from KFC, Macca's and Burger King :laugh: Heaven knows I should get one!

[James Deuce]

If you try a Triumph 600 TT (as I think you were planning), and then a Diversion 400, I believe you will be somewhat underwhelmed by the 400.

[aff-man]

It looks like a two cylinder slow bike with not good brakes. i.e. a 400 version of a gn250 (with fairings) :lol:

[greenhorn]

An exemption, from the cc restriction? For being a fat bastard?
Well, I'm a relatively "fat bastard" and I had to sit on a 250cc till I got my full licence, so don't hold your breath!

You can get an exemption from KFC, Macca's and Burger King :laugh: Heaven knows I should get one!


Well, i'm a tall and fat bastard. Thus i can supposedly get an exemption from the 250cc limit thing.
I have been reliably informed i should be able to get this exemption. I have a name and number of a guy who went thru the process who is a tall and fat, i wont call him a bastard cos i dont know him yet and might need his help...
I think its tallness as well as fatness thats taken into consideration (being a bastard is optional i guess but maybe it helps)

[jrandom]

Well, i'm a tall and fat bastard. Thus i can supposedly get an exemption from the 250cc limit thing.
I have been reliably informed i should be able to get this exemption. I have a name and number of a guy who went thru the process who is a tall and fat, i wont call him a bastard cos i dont know him yet and might need his help...
I think its tallness as well as fatness thats taken into consideration (being a bastard is optional i guess but maybe it helps)

Can you quote the relevant transport or other regs?

[greenhorn]

If you try a Triumph 600 TT (as I think you were planning), and then a Diversion 400, I believe you will be somewhat underwhelmed by the 400.

I think you have me mixed up with someone else Jim2... i never heard of a Triumph 600 TT nor planed on trying one, but from those comments i guess i should, but theyre probably way out of my price range??. The Diversion grabbed my attention because it seemed so cheap. You see, not only am i a tall fat bastard i am also a poor bastard.

[greenhorn]

Can you quote the relevant transport or other regs?

Not at the moment.. but somewhere i have some info on the subject
I'll look it up and get back to you as soon as i find it.

Are you also a fat bastard? :spudwave:

[vifferman]

Are you also a fat bastard? :spudwave:He did say somewhere else that he weighs about a bazillion kilos (give or take a gram...) :Pokey:

[jrandom]

Not at the moment.. but somewhere i have some info on the subject
I'll look it up and get back to you as soon as i find it.

Are you also a fat bastard? :spudwave:

175cm, 100kg. With the help of the local Dunkin Donuts, could probably add an extra (temporary) 10-20 in short order a la Raging Bull if it would get me a license exemption :whistle:

[jrandom]

He did say somewhere else that he weighs about a bazillion kilos (give or take a gram...) :Pokey:

*You* can just shut your trap, beanpole boy.

[vifferman]

175cm, 100kg. With the help of the local Dunkin Donuts, could probably add an extra (temporary) 10-20 in short order a la Raging Bull if it would get me a license exemption :whistle:Why not go the whole hog (or several hogs, even) and see if you can get HUGE enough to be allowed a Rocket III?

[jrandom]

Why not go the whole hog (or several hogs, even) and see if you can get HUGE enough to be allowed a Rocket III?

The Weird Al Yankovic song comes to mind.

[marty]

just how big are you? i'm 6'2 100kg and rode a VT250 (the naked 2003 one). it fit me just fine.

even the new gsx250 suzi is a big (ish) bike that wasn't too uncomfortable, although the seat was f-ing hard

[jrandom]

just how big are you? i'm 6'2 100kg and rode a VT250 (the naked 2003 one). it fit me just fine.

Shhhhh!

We're trying to convince the Man here that giving us all license exemptions should be an ACC requirement.

[rodgerd]

just how big are you? i'm 6'2 100kg and rode a VT250 (the naked 2003 one). it fit me just fine.

even the new gsx250 suzi is a big (ish) bike that wasn't too uncomfortable, although the seat was f-ing hard

Yeah. I'm 6'1" and 105kg, still happy with my wee Bandit that lugs me around in comfort and, when required, a bit of zip.

[dangerous]

Are they a 4cyl... do you have any other info on them?
Yes they are a 4cyl Yamaha's virsion of the Suzuki Bandit. You can get these bikes in 400, 600 & 900's
How's about you post the link so we can look at it.

[gav]

http://predator.bikepics.com/pics/yamaha-xj400-93-bikepics-059919.jpg
The XJ400 Diversion is a 4 cylinder 4 stroke and would be a great first bike, the bigger XJ600 was very popular in the US when released. For $2750 that looks a good buy in trade me.Trade me divvy link (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Road-bikes/Sports-tourer/auction-13431744.htm)

[vifferman]

The XJ400 Diversion is a 4 cylinder 4 stroke and would be a great first bike, the bigger XJ600 was very popular in the US when released. What quarterwit thought up the name "Diversion"? Even if it was a halfway decent bike, you'd have to peel the nametags off, or at least vandalise them. Pity it's not reeeaaaally ugly, or you could change it to read "Perversion". :crazy:

[FROSTY]

thats the worste respray job I have seen in a long time.
also Notice the bulges in the muffler--good sighn its about to go adios

[Zed]

The XJ400 Diversion is a 4 cylinder 4 stroke and would be a great first bike, the bigger XJ600 was very popular in the US when released. For $2750 that looks a good buy in trade me.Trade me divvy link (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Road-bikes/Sports-tourer/auction-13431744.htm)
Just don't expect to ride it around a corner fast greenhorn! A mate of mine nearly killed himself on a Diversion 900 because the darn thing wouldn't lean over far in a corner.

I suppose if you're after a cruiser as opposed to a true sportsbike - the Diversion would suit you! ;)


Zed

[dangerous]

Well I had nothing better to do so I tracked it down. Looks bloody tidy, you should compair it to the one WT mentioned.
http://202.21.128.4/photoserver/54/4580754_med.jpg

[White trash]

Well I had nothing better to do so I tracked it down. Looks bloody tidy, you should compair it to the one WT mentioned.
http://202.21.128.4/photoserver/54/4580754_med.jpg

I'd say Paul really wants to employ a groomer! Pretty bad corrosion around the mirror stalks and front of the engine.

The slack prick in charge of WMCCs website hasn't taken a pic of theirs yet. But it's a 2001, done 6500km.

[gav]

Well I had nothing better to do so I tracked it down.
And just how hard was it to click on the trade me link in my post? LOL

[greenhorn]

Shhhhh!

We're trying to convince the Man here that giving us all license exemptions should be an ACC requirement.

Well guys, I've been given a name and phone number of a bloke who walked into a bike shop on a learners license and bought a bike over 250cc because he had an exemption based on his size. The bike shop guy gave me his details. I dont think he would appreciate me giving his name and number on a public forum but as soon as i get my fat arse into gear and ring him myself i will let you know what transpires.

I am 6 ft 6 inches and weigh in at around 128kg. This apparently is similar dimensions to said guy who got the exemption.

To be truthful i can probably fit on some of the 250's comfortably enough, but i thought hey if being a fat bastard gets me an exemption why not go for it? It means i'm not limited to buying an overpriced 250 for my first bike, cos as i said before not only am i a fat, tall bastard i am also a poor bastard, oh, and a tight bastard. :eek:

[greenhorn]

Just don't expect to ride it around a corner fast greenhorn! A mate of mine nearly killed himself on a Diversion 900 because the darn thing wouldn't lean over far in a corner.

I suppose if you're after a cruiser as opposed to a true sportsbike - the Diversion would suit you! ;)


Zed

Thanks for your input Gav/Zed.

I guess the other problem would be parts as WT said before theyre jap market only?...

[gav]

I dont think parts would be any more of a problem than anything else, hell I've got a NZ new CBR600 and any body work etc parts I need would be ex Japan, priced a headlight, ex Japan :brick:

[greenhorn]

, cos as i said before not only am i a fat, tall bastard i am also a poor bastard, oh, and a tight bastard. :eek:


I guess what i am trying to say is, i am a COMPLETE bastard :D

[moko]

600 Diversion was the best-selling bike in Europe when it came out in the early 1990`s and they only stopped selling them here last year when the wankers in Brussells changed the emmission/noise regs which took out a whole load of popular bikes.Un-like the Bandit it was designed as a whole from the ground up and wasn`t a "parts-bin special".The 600 Bandit was Suzukis answer to a very popular bike,it was faster and had more street cred and hammered Divvy sales though they still sold pretty well.Compared to the 600 Bandit it`s less top-heavy and while slower a better bike around town.they`re well-known for reliability and Despatchers love `em.The 400 is just a smaller version,same bike,smaller bore,the 900 is totally different and you cant really compare it with the smaller bikes.400 is Jap market only but loads over here and spares are very easy to get as 600 parts fit and there are still loads of those on the road,any of the Brit mail-order specialists can sort you out with parts and will ship to N.Z.Only problems are that they corrode in Britains shit weather if not looked after and they all have a rattle from the clutch which no-one seems to know how to get rid of,sounds like the camchain to Divvy newbies but it`s a well-known foible and totally harmless,not to mention apparently almost impossible to cure.The 600`s are pretty bullet-proof and despatchers often take them around the clock,and they`re none too gentle,400 shouldn`t be any different.I dont know if the 600 was officially imported to N.Z. but I`m sure I`ve seen them advertised by a couple of hire companies while I was shopping around,Te Waipounamu in Auckland had a couple of 900s in when I was there.If you just want a reliable run-around a Diversion will do you fine,I had an XJ600N,basically an un-faired Divvy,neat little bike if a little bland.

[dangerous]

And just how hard was it to click on the trade me link in my post? LOL
Yeah, yeah, yeah I know...... dont ya just hate that! I posted at 16:35 and you posted at 16:36 I then spent the next 14min looking for the bloody bike add and posted it at 16:50 and in the mean time FS, XJ and Zed all posted :niceone:

[moosecake]

Right here goes, firstly ensure your carbs are bang on balanced and running smooth as a babies, yeah, as sometimes it might just be the carbs out causing the rattle(chatter) ok, you'll need to be a competent engineer or know a good one, remove right hand side casing to reveal the clutch, not much movement is there?! actually there is, some bikes rattle all the time, some only when clutch is engaged, it varies.

INITIAL STAGE..
remove 5 screws holding clutch basket front on, put to one side, now remove the centre nut and locking washer, remove all the plates, keep them all the same way, remove spacing washer, now remove the main basket, firstly on the rear you'll see the drive for the oil pump, remove the circlip, and remove the drive gear,

STAGE 0NE..
you'll see a pin, bit loose isn't it!! get an engineer to make you a pin so it's a snug fit, reassemble, they were fitted with the wrong size pin from new, either that or it's worn, renew it with an original does nothing, it still moves, only a few mm but it's all it needs!!

STAGE TWO..

remove the oil pump screws, remove the pump and seperate by removing the singe screw behind, DON'T LOSE THE TWO LOCATING PINS, now through the shaft is a pin, is the hole oval? check it, is the bar thinner in diam than it should be? poss yes to all, as with the basket pin, get a snug fit pin in there and renew any worn parts as nesc.

STAGE THREE..

The tricky part, back to the clutch basket, like i say you'll need good engineering skills, and poss know a good welder too!!
remove the 3 big rivets on the basket, do this by grinding off the heads of the rivets, seperate the parts, you can now get to the parts that rattle a LOT, the springs, one cure is to pack the springs out at either end with spacers, don't use washers, the compound of the spacers needs to the same as the springs, or made of strong metal that's a different metal to the springs and the alloy casting, to avoid metal fusing!! the same diam as the springs, as long as they don't slide out the slots, erm major problems!! the best cure is to get some new springs in there that are a few mm longer, you'll have to shop around for some, when done reassemble, ideally put new rivets through, a decent engineering firm should be able to assist, or like i did weld them back on.

reassemble the lot, don't forget your, oil!!

start her up, and.. no rattle, this works, it's a cure to that damn noise, the srings move mainly, try the pin on the back first as that's easier to do, or try a new basket, plates etc kit if your feeling flush, i believe these were made with fractionally wrong parts, only assumption i can come up with!! i've not tried a new basket, i've heard reports that it makes no difference, and i've heard newish bikes with a rattle!!

I'm from the uk, i have relatives that live in new zealand, i joined this site to pass info on, good luck all
(by the way, the dissasemble and reassemble of the basket is damn fiddly.
(i also take no responsability of any problems or malfunction or damage to any bike/vehicle that you decide to modify) i made it work for me, I AM a competent engineer!
cheers all