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Disco Dan
11th March 2007, 09:32
AWNMR - Wednesday Night Mentor Ride
2nd May

NEW THREAD IS HERE NOW (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1034661#post1034661)

What - Newbie training/confidence session
When - Wednesdays
Where - Meet at shell westgate then directed to a practice area nearby
Why - A chance for new riders and learners to get practical advice on your riding and learn new skills from site mentors.
Time - 6:30pm (Departing 7pm)


Directed at new riders looking for confidence and training -
all are welcome to attend and learn

Disco Dan
11th March 2007, 12:00
Also folks, you dont have to 'ride' to the session on wednesday, you may PM me for location of the pub and drive to the venue. However, it is preffered that you bring your bike! :innocent: :scooter:

...Wont be able to bring my whiteboard this time though.

slinky
11th March 2007, 21:54
unable to make this week

Kittyhawk
12th March 2007, 17:07
Yea I'll be there....

Disco Dan
14th March 2007, 08:20
Maybe we could include "riding in a storm" tonight hehehe ...watch out for cars trying to kill you.. oh and trees trying to kill you too... ...you would think we would get the hint :innocent:

See you all at shell folks.

Disco Dan
14th March 2007, 11:16
UPDATE:

Looks like a storm will hit us again this afternoon... high winds etc..

If you wish to take your car to the venue, we will be going to the same function centre as last time - Western Lights Tavern, Triangle Road. Near the Caltex petrol station on triangle road.

Those of you on bikes - meet at shell as usual

Busy
14th March 2007, 14:23
forecast as of 3:35pm
The wind and rain out west is nasty, the wind is very gusty so folks take extra care down the motorway if you have to use it, I'd advise the back roads.

Looking out the window the rain is at 45 degrees and I'm not sure if it was a cat or an item of clothes but something just flew past the window. Can hear heaps of sirens out there. I can see the north western from here, well when the trees stay still.

I wont be there, have to go clean up a flooded basement on the shore

Disco Dan
14th March 2007, 14:29
I'm not sure if it was a cat or an item of clothes but something just flew past the window.

a cat? flying past your window? oh dear.....

KLOWN
14th March 2007, 16:34
i'll be there tonight, with my wet weather suit on. bells underneath.

FROSTY
14th March 2007, 16:39
horisontal rain here --not nice

Disco Dan
14th March 2007, 16:45
Scored a car... can bring whiteboard now...

Its only a bit of rain!!!

See you at westgate!

Blondini
14th March 2007, 16:46
I will be home in case the tree next door heads through our house....and the cat?what colour I seem to have lost one.....Any mad ones heading out in this weather be very careful....metservice recommends to stay in unless it is an emergency...

Kittyhawk
14th March 2007, 17:02
The weather is crap...so Im not riding due to the strong winds....It's not often I am like this.

And my tire got slashed on the car so the space saver is now on... so not going to drive until I buy a new tire tomorrow.

Urgh.....dont want to tempt fate and get stranded in a cage in crappy weather on a crappy motorway listening to a crappy radio station till the battery goes flat.

Ok Im bored now *scratches head*

Ahh stuff it the yellow gear is coming out and Im goin to ride! see ya all there.

white belt
14th March 2007, 17:28
I wonder given The Strangers relaxed veiws towards apalling weather conditions he'lll 'walk the walk'....so to speak.
:love:

FROSTY
14th March 2007, 17:34
well if ya cant ride in this lil tiny bit of rain.......

crashe
14th March 2007, 17:42
Sorry, but I won't be there either.

Very busy tonight.

Hope you all have fun.
Those that rode....... take care.

Kittyhawk
14th March 2007, 19:18
Sorry I missed you guys....I carried on riding. :innocent: did a good couple of hours...

Disco Dan
17th March 2007, 09:30
Next meet: This wednesday 21st

Back to normal this week - Meet at shell as usual then directed to a practice area nearby. This will be on rain or shine, as it's good practice to learn how to ride in the wet. However, if the rain is horizontal it will be cancelled.

See you all there on wednesday folks!

Disco Dan

PS - Again, just a reminder to please sign up on the calender (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-3-21&e=1225&c=1) so I have an idea of numbers. Thanks.

Morcs
19th March 2007, 12:37
Ill there :)

I need to practice my rolls and slides when i get hit by a car...

Disco Dan
19th March 2007, 12:38
Ill there :)

I need to practice my rolls and slides when i get hit by a car...

Can I bring my car then? :shutup:

Morcs
19th March 2007, 13:49
Can I bring my car then? :shutup:

Feel free :)

Ill need a shitty bike to do it on though as dont want to hurt the Kwaka... phils hyosung will do...

Karma
19th March 2007, 13:57
Feel free :)

Ill need a shitty bike to do it on though as dont want to hurt the Kwaka... phils hyosung will do...


Why waste a hyosung when there's a perfectly willing GSX waiting to be binned...

Disco Dan
19th March 2007, 13:58
Why waste a hyosung when there's a perfectly willing GSXR waiting to be binned...

well if your offering... :innocent:

Morcs
19th March 2007, 16:23
well if your offering... :innocent:

Gixxers dont need any extra help to be binned, they seem to do it themselves all too easily :laugh:

I pick up my new leathers on wednesday so will be wearing them that night :)

KLOWN
19th March 2007, 17:17
I should be there, if all goes according to my master plan.

Disco Dan
19th March 2007, 17:18
I should be there, if all goes according to my master plan.

Maste plan huh?


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Next meet: This wednesday 21st

Back to normal this week - Meet at shell as usual then directed to a practice area nearby. This will be on rain or shine, as it's good practice to learn how to ride in the wet. However, if the rain is horizontal it will be cancelled.

See you all there on wednesday folks!

Disco Dan

PS - Again, just a reminder to please sign up on the calender (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-3-21&e=1225&c=1) so I have an idea of numbers. Thanks.

Timaa
19th March 2007, 17:27
ill be keen to come for a ride if its not too shitty, hope i can keep up

shitty weather that is...lol

KLOWN
19th March 2007, 17:28
Maste plan huh?


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Next meet: This wednesday 21st

Back to normal this week - Meet at shell as usual then directed to a practice area nearby. This will be on rain or shine, as it's good practice to learn how to ride in the wet. However, if the rain is horizontal it will be cancelled.

See you all there on wednesday folks!

Disco Dan

PS - Again, just a reminder to please sign up on the calender (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-3-21&e=1225&c=1) so I have an idea of numbers. Thanks.

yeah, my master plan is to show up. Lol.

Morcs
19th March 2007, 17:33
yeah, my master plan is to show up. Lol.

A plan of absolute genius.

Rep given.

:not: :not: :not: :not: :not:

slinky
19th March 2007, 17:35
ill be keen to come for a ride if its not too shitty, hope i can keep up

shitty weather that is...lol

there is no keeping up.
its a carpard skill practice thing, sometimes they go fora small ride taht is in no way fast.

Disco Dan
19th March 2007, 17:38
there is no keeping up.
its a carpard skill practice thing, sometimes they go fora small ride taht is in no way fast.

thanks for the explanation slinky.. however I think that may have been the joke... :innocent: :rofl:

Timaa
19th March 2007, 17:39
there is no keeping up.
its a carpard skill practice thing, sometimes they go fora small ride taht is in no way fast.

lol, i c, not wat the description said, but that sweet.lol, im more looking for a proper bit of a ride round with a few guys/girls. but ill be there to practice anyway.lol cheers

Timaa
19th March 2007, 17:39
ur all weird.lol

Disco Dan
19th March 2007, 17:43
ur all weird.lol

Welcome to KB :yes: mwuahahaha!

Good to see you there on wednesday, you may be surprised at how much you can learn from this... :yes: :yes: why make the mistakes yourself when you can learn from others who have already made them!

See you on wednesday!

PM me if you need extra details.

Morcs
19th March 2007, 17:46
You bringing your Sacs along Dan? you might be needing them :laugh:

KLOWN
19th March 2007, 17:48
my master plan just failed. Gotta go out to dinner with the olds. Hopefully i'll be joining the masses for the thursday night ride.

Timaa
19th March 2007, 17:54
You bringing your Sacs along Dan? you might be needing them :laugh:

looks to me like he likes riding his own sacs...:D

slinky
20th March 2007, 13:09
ur all weird.lol

ur wierd for not figuring it out sooner....
come to the thursday ride if your wanting to go for a ride. keeping up isn't an issue, aslong as ur sweet wit 100 k's im guessing you are.

Metalor
20th March 2007, 13:10
How long do you guys ride for? Cos I'd be really keen but I have band practices out in Henderson on Wednesday nights. Still don't know what the fuck I'm doin when I jump on the bike, I just put it in gear then go from there :p I've signed up for the riderskills course this Sunday but I'm thinking I'm still gonna need a bit more experience before I feel confident enough to ride to uni on the motorway everyday.

Timaa
20th March 2007, 13:11
the thur ride starts from the same place doesnt it? shell westgate? end of the northwestern? sweet, im keen to meet some fellow bikers/ biker chicks. lol.

slinky
20th March 2007, 13:12
lol, i c, not wat the description said, but that sweet.lol, im more looking for a proper bit of a ride round with a few guys/girls. but ill be there to practice anyway.lol cheers

Just quoting so Dan can read it....again.

slinky
20th March 2007, 13:14
the thur ride starts from the same place doesnt it? shell westgate? end of the northwestern? sweet, im keen to meet some fellow bikers/ biker chicks. lol.

yeh. look on calender on the home page, and click on ATNR.
this ones good though, cus makes ya practice things you would probably never practice.

Disco Dan
20th March 2007, 13:18
How long do you guys ride for? Cos I'd be really keen but I have band practices out in Henderson on Wednesday nights. Still don't know what the fuck I'm doin when I jump on the bike, I just put it in gear then go from there :p I've signed up for the riderskills course this Sunday but I'm thinking I'm still gonna need a bit more experience before I feel confident enough to ride to uni on the motorway everyday.

I would advise coming along on wednesday, we usually spend most of the time in the carpark practicing riding skills - braking practice, counter steering, etc etc all pretty basic stuff but even experienced riders come along and practice because its life saving stuff...

...thrs ride is generally at a resonable pace, ok for learners but would advise sticking just in front of the tail end bike.

...why not do both?

(this one time at band camp.... :shutup: ...sorry couldnt resist that one)

slinky
20th March 2007, 13:26
just don't follow the guy on a red gsx

Timaa
20th March 2007, 13:42
wasnt planning on it... XD :shutup:

Kittyhawk
20th March 2007, 16:11
wasnt planning on it... XD :shutup:

You'll be sweet. Both Wed and Thurs.

Morcs
20th March 2007, 17:17
Ill be bringing two people with me hopefully - tam my boss on a black gpx250, and alan on my old bandit.

I dont expect either to actually turn up, but will see.

If we do have a large group, and there is an 'advanced' contingent that i have no problems in leading a ride down riverhead or something.

Disco Dan
20th March 2007, 17:22
Ill be bringing two people with me hopefully - tam my boss on a black gpx250, and alan on my old bandit.

I dont expect either to actually turn up, but will see.

If we do have a large group, and there is an 'advanced' contingent that i have no problems in leading a ride down riverhead or something.

more the merrier...

Im sure we will have enough mentors to accomodate all eventualities... thanks for the offer though. Do you not need to practice then????

Morcs
20th March 2007, 17:44
more the merrier...

Im sure we will have enough mentors to accomodate all eventualities... thanks for the offer though ;)


Yeah i kinda just want to go for a ride... ill go slow...i promise :)

Blondini
20th March 2007, 17:51
Sorry cant make it.I have lost my wed night babysitter due to rugby training...Mums turn to take the back bench for a while:bye: :eek: :crybaby: :soon: :Punk:

Metalor
20th March 2007, 20:50
I would advise coming along on wednesday, we usually spend most of the time in the carpark practicing riding skills - braking practice, counter steering, etc etc all pretty basic stuff but even experienced riders come along and practice because its life saving stuff...

...thrs ride is generally at a resonable pace, ok for learners but would advise sticking just in front of the tail end bike.

...why not do both?

(this one time at band camp.... :shutup: ...sorry couldnt resist that one)

Cheers man, I'll have to see what I can organise. Mate of mine (who also plays in the same band) lives up on state highway 16 and is wanting to get a bike, so might be able to free Wednesdays up if we're both wantin to go riding! If not I'll practice at my own place then maybe go to the Thursday one. The Volty might have trouble keeping up with the more experienced riders though...

Big Dog
20th March 2007, 20:58
Maste plan huh?


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Next meet: This wednesday 21st

Back to normal this week - Meet at shell as usual then directed to a practice area nearby. This will be on rain or shine, as it's good practice to learn how to ride in the wet. However, if the rain is horizontal it will be cancelled.

See you all there on wednesday folks!

Disco Dan

PS - Again, just a reminder to please sign up on the calender (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-3-21&e=1225&c=1) so I have an idea of numbers. Thanks.

You sir should be a politician it will be on rain or shine, err unless it's raining proper, lol
Do you think you need less practice to stop in horizontal rain?

KLOWN
20th March 2007, 21:04
You sir should be a politician it will be on rain or shine, err unless it's raining proper, lol
Do you think you need less practice to stop in horizontal rain?

well we all saw the proof last wednesday when the 'real' riders rode in the rain and all the wussies drove.

Disco Dan
20th March 2007, 21:12
yeah... its hard being me... :innocent:

..the car? well it wasnt mine as I dont own one anymore (had about 9 cars!) ..someone had to bring the whiteboard ;)

Big Dog
20th March 2007, 21:21
well we all saw the proof last wednesday when the 'real' riders rode in the rain and all the wussies drove.

To be fair it was a theory night and there is something to be said for having the intelligence (and the means) to take car when there will be no benefit and increased discomfort by taking the bike.

I would be disappointed at that turnout for an actual road session.

Disco Dan
20th March 2007, 21:26
To be fair it was a theory night and there is something to be said for having the intelligence (and the means) to take car when there will be no benefit and increased discomfort by taking the bike.

I would be disappointed at that turnout for an actual road session.

yes.. if i did not have access to a car that day then I would have taken the bike... simply because it's my only form of transport!

Big Dog
20th March 2007, 21:33
yes.. if i did not have access to a car that day then I would have taken the bike... simply because it's my only form of transport!

Just to be clear, you are a native speaker of English?
You can read?

My post mitigated or at least excused your cage transgression.

I suspect that all of the above are facts, or can be assumed so, you sir have a guilty conscience. You have been cheating on your bike and feel guilty!

Disco Dan
20th March 2007, 21:36
you sir have a guilty conscience. You have been cheating on your bike and feel guilty!

I have ! I gave her an extra special clean... with special wax.. and oiled everything!

Kittyhawk
20th March 2007, 22:00
Dont cheat on your bike.....hehehe she might throw you off.

And the weather conditions? Tis all good practise. I hate the thought of soggy gloves and a lot of wet gear, but hey it comes with the riding.

No one can control the weather, so why be scared of it when it rains? Just means everything slows down a bit and more precautions are taken.

I must be crazy or dont have a fully functional brain cell, but I'd do it again in horizontal rain....bring on winter and the thunder storms....:headbang:

vagrant
21st March 2007, 13:04
...with special wax..

Enough already, information overshare!!!

Disco Dan
21st March 2007, 13:18
All on for today folks! Meet at shell westgate at the end of the Northwestern as usual.

Just a note: There appears to be a slight spill of diesel around the back of the shell station, so take care if you come around that corner today.


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I would like everyones thoughts on a spanner night? It has been mentioned a few times already, but it will take a little organising. Seeing as we are losing light and good weather, it makes sense to adapt to the changing conditions.

* What aspects of bike maintanence would you like to be covered?
* How 'in-depth' would you like it to be?
* Do you have a bike that is due a service that we could use to demonstrate on?

KLOWN
21st March 2007, 13:31
* What aspects of bike maintanence would you like to be covered?
* How 'in-depth' would you like it to be?
* Do you have a bike that is due a service that we could use to demonstrate on?


You can demonstrate on mine its always in need of some tlc.

I want to see how to clean and oil chain PROPERLY (i do it myself but never seen anyone else do it so want to know if i;m doing it right) how to bleed breaks (front and rear) properly. How to grease suspension (if necessary) how to lube clutch cable, chain tension, oiling your air filter (if necessary and how often to do it) maybe an oil change.
I have done most of these things myself before but I really don't know if i'm doing them right. Maybe a fork seal change (i've already seen one done now, but good for others to know) ummm i'll post some more when I can think.

Kittyhawk
21st March 2007, 15:39
Yes I think the chain cleaning and lubing is of high importance.

Also how to wash and polish a bike properly, what to use to get surface rust off and the shortcuts to cleaning rather than using the old tooth brush methods!!

Maybe consider breaking down lessons, during the daylight have practial and when it gets too dark have theory?

Also a few other things in the spanners night to consider...

- tire pressures
- how to adjust a chain
- what to look for if you discover an oil leak from somewhere
- what to do if you get a puncutre/or a split valve
- how to clean and look after your biker gear
- basics to maintain a bikes engine
- suspension
- things you should always carry under the seat

Aww the list can go on....:dodge:

Blondini
21st March 2007, 16:16
A spanner night would be good .please give me some warning and will organize another babysitter:yes:

Kwaka14
21st March 2007, 16:19
I was chatting to Kerry in at Motohaus and he was interested in putting on a spanner night for KB'rs sometime if you like I can get him to sort out a night?

Busy
21st March 2007, 16:50
Any idea where the spot is tonight - car park or roundy roundy bout?

I have some stuff I need to take over the bridge so if its the other can bring it with me (soft toys and a sive).

*maybe we should have a "what not to carry on your bike" night* lol

Disco Dan
21st March 2007, 16:53
Any idea where the spot is tonight - car park or roundy roundy bout?


Back at the carpark today. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Disco Dan
21st March 2007, 17:40
Im frustrated with myself today, I had a very minor 'minty moment' on my way to Uni...

going along gillies ave, heaps of tar snakes... gave her some throttle (bit too much) on a rather large one and the rear stepped out.. only going slow (30-40kph) ...my first reaction? *feet went out* damit. damit. damit. did not bin, but angry with myself for woosing out and my natural reaction being wrong. Then still angry with myself, I turned onto epsom ave (fairly steep hill) and gave her some throttle... front wheel goes up... :sick: boy did I crap myself... top box was overloaded (again) and steep hill + too much throttle... = :sick: ...feel like i know my bike even better after that but still kicking myself at what happend.

meh.. anyway... see you all at westgate...

Macktheknife
21st March 2007, 19:45
Apologies for not attending tonight folks, just too tired.
Maybe next week.

Big Dog
21st March 2007, 22:33
Not all of the lines will translate, nor the speed, but the skills do.
If you want to see what a good corner looks like and how the bad ones look when dealt with by people who know come and marshal at the racing.

Next event is this saturday, see my other related thread, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=981017#post981017

As stated not recommended you get out and try and emulate everything you see but you will see direct steerers, counter steerers, throttle on, throttle off and have a better understanding of what these things make the bike do.

Kittyhawk
21st March 2007, 22:59
Was a good turn out tonight.

Thanks to everyone who came!!

Disco Dan
21st March 2007, 23:41
Big thanks to BIG DOG and KITTYHAWK for taking this weeks session!

Much appreciated :yes:

There was some experience gained all round this evening, great stuff!!!

Just a reminder folks - we're advocating safety here and would be good to see 'all the gear all the time' being seen. (I have had several people approach me, concerned about the minority that insist on overlooking this)

...knuts has not posted on here yet??? I hope he didnt end up in Hamilton after my travel directions :shutup:

...managed to send another guy (sorry I forgot your name) left at the lights... instead of right for the gas station... ....yeah... sorry about that... I did legg-it around to look for you when I found out from the others....! ! !

Busy
22nd March 2007, 12:39
...knuts has not posted on here yet??? I hope he didnt end up in Hamilton after my travel directions :shutup: last seen looking at a map a few miles from bay of plenty ;)

I think we all need to pitch in and buy Disco Dan a map and Kittyhawk a bib (she was drooling a bit last night) and maybe a beckon or bungie cord for her cellphone :innocent:

Timaa
22nd March 2007, 12:50
lol, thats me, disco!!!! lol, i saw it halfway thru the corner. but damn raised median strip. anyway... made it home so thats all good.
Busy: lol i forgot i was supposed to follow u off the motorway, i just ended up gettingoff at great north, i was sweet either way, lol. was looking for a rosebank exit. not some random street. lol made it home. if a few mins later.
cheers for all the feedback guys/girl, :shutup: still need to work on getting me some gear, gotta find some money, but if someone has some spare stuff to lend for the rides that would be sweet.
Timaa out!

knutts
22nd March 2007, 15:49
[QUOTE=Disco Dan;984484
...knuts has not posted on here yet??? I hope he didnt end up in Hamilton after my travel directions :shutup:

[/QUOTE]

HEAR YE, HEAR YE, HEAR YE. LET IT BE KNOWNE TO THE WORLDE THAT DISCO DAN DID GIVE CORRECTE DIRECTIONS TO A NEWBIE (NAMELY ME) AND I GOT HOME SAFELY AND DID NOT END UP IN HAMILTON FOR A HAMBURGER. My thanks to the mentors last night, learned a few things about the limitations and capabilities of my ride and myself. Also thanks to the gentleman who shouted the chips afterwards.

Disco Dan
22nd March 2007, 15:56
lol, thats me, disco!!!! lol, i saw it halfway thru the corner. but damn raised median strip. anyway... made it home so thats all good.

yeah... walked over to everyone: "the gas stations left at those lights ay?" ...the combined "oh no" from everyone was classic! Sorry again mate!! hehe


HEAR YE, HEAR YE, HEAR YE. LET IT BE KNOWNE TO THE WORLDE THAT DISCO DAN DID GIVE CORRECTE DIRECTIONS TO A NEWBIE (NAMELY ME) AND I GOT HOME SAFELY AND DID NOT END UP IN HAMILTON FOR A HAMBURGER. My thanks to the mentors last night, learned a few things about the limitations and capabilities of my ride and myself. Also thanks to the gentleman who shouted the chips afterwards.

argh, there you go!

Yes, hope to see you along again... good to hear you were able to take something from the evening!


Kittyhawk - The cell phone incident..? your a worry! ;)

Kittyhawk
23rd March 2007, 11:43
Was a good night. As for the cell phone....um....er.....promise it wont happen this week!!!

Disco Dan
23rd March 2007, 13:37
Hey folks -

Can I get a quick 'whip round' of PM's from people that would attend this wednesday, for a spanner night from a well known mechanic?:yes: :gob: :yes:

Need to know how many people will turn up please. So if you can PM me ASAP and def before the end of the weekend that would be great folks... :yes:

Disco Dan
23rd March 2007, 15:35
AWNMR UPDATE:


NEXT WEDNESDAY - 28th March, we are having a spanner night.


A chance for everyone to learn how to maintain their motorbikes from an experienced mechanic.

Meeting at MOTOHAUS in WESTERN SPRINGS 6:30pm

Kerry from Motohaus will be giving us his time to demonstrate how to maintain your motorbike and answer your questions.

Disco Dan
23rd March 2007, 16:34
For those of you who are not sure where MOTOHAUS is...

It is on Western Springs Road, opposite Don Croost St. Kingsland.

Get off the Mway at westernsprings and turn down Western Springs Road. You will see it on your right.

Morcs
23rd March 2007, 16:58
Sweet as bro, count me in. Will there be beer?

I could do with learning how to fix bikes after i crash them...

Macktheknife
23rd March 2007, 17:07
Sweet as bro, count me in. Will there be beer?

I could do with learning how to fix bikes after i crash them...

Getting to be a habit with you mate lol!
Sounds like a good night, will see if I can make it.

Morcs
23rd March 2007, 17:23
Getting to be a habit with you mate lol!
Sounds like a good night, will see if I can make it.


Funny thing is, 2 incidents in 2 weeks, and they have both been where i have deliberately been riding like a nana....mmm:yes:

Disco Dan
23rd March 2007, 19:10
Yeah, looks like its going to help out a lot of people this one!


...somehow managed to get another nail in my rear tyre... *groan*

Disco Dan
24th March 2007, 19:41
* * * bump * * *

Busy
24th March 2007, 22:11
Not a very good map there DD, I live locally but can't figure it out, have to look on a real map (you know the one with pages not a next button - I think they call it a book ...).

Maybe we can have a "how to wash and polish a bike" night, I'd donate my bike for it ;)

Big Dog
25th March 2007, 19:32
Maybe we can have a "how to wash and polish a bike" night, I'd donate my bike for it ;)

How very generous paying Kerry with your new bike so that we may learn to wash one.

Question then becomes what are you thinking of replacing it with?

Busy
25th March 2007, 22:31
hmmm that whole previous post was a bit messed up huh.

Sorry Dan was no bad intentions meant on the map thing, was meaning a manual map as everyone is on a PC ... I guess it was a you just had to be there moment

Kittyhawk
25th March 2007, 22:33
Naww I couldnt let anyone else clean my bike apart from me.....as I have a particular routine to cleaning it. :shutup:

Disco Dan
26th March 2007, 10:50
Not a very good map there DD, I live locally but can't figure it out, have to look on a real map (you know the one with pages not a next button - I think they call it a book ...).


I dont have access to google earth or anything similar. It's a simple 'wises' map. If you need more directions you are welcome to PM me directly! Unless someone fancies being flash and uploading a map..... *hint*

Karma
26th March 2007, 10:52
I dont have access to google earth or anything similar.

Yeh ya do.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Western+Springs+Road,+auckland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.732051,69.785156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1

Disco Dan
26th March 2007, 11:23
Its on WESTERN SPRINGS ROAD on the intersection of Don Croost Street.

Here ya go folks:



From town:

Get off the Mway at Western Springs, as you flow left off the off ramp there is a street straight away on your left. This is Western Springs Road. Follow this road along until you go down a steepish hill and a sharp left turn and then you will see MOTOHAUS on your right.

From West:

Get off the mway at Western Springs, turn left onto Great North Road. You will see a petrol station on your left. Stay in the left hand lane and turn left onto St Lukes road - which goes over the mway. Just as you see the slip road for the mway off ramp on your left you will see a street on your left. This is Western Springs Road. Follow this road along until you go down a steepish hill and a sharp left turn and then you will see MOTOHAUS on your right.

If you pass a building full of giant plaster dinosaurs and figures you have gone too far.

Its actually very easy to find... :yes:

If anyone would like an escort to the venue please PM me and I will organise something for you. If more than one person requests this I will organise a group meeting point.

This has been very popular in the past, and Kerry is a very highly experienced and respected mechanic among KB - This is a fantastic opportunity to learn !

- Disco Dan

EDIT: These pictures are the best I can do at the mo, photoshop for mac is still downloading... all 300MB of it... (thanks for the linky Weasel)

Morcs
26th March 2007, 17:02
Anyone heading from south, central or east that doesnt quite know the way can meet me in town at 6ish, QE2 square opposite britomart.

Fub@r
27th March 2007, 18:54
Anyone heading from south, central or east that doesnt quite know the way can meet me in town at 6ish, QE2 square opposite britomart.

I know where to go but I can come keep you company........I will be leaving from office just down the road at that time

The Joka
27th March 2007, 19:15
I will try to be there! Will be in the car though.. Bike still in shop! but definately very crucial to know..

Cheers for organising it!!!

Kittyhawk
27th March 2007, 20:21
Anyone heading from south, central or east that doesnt quite know the way can meet me in town at 6ish, QE2 square opposite britomart.

See ya there in central...

Macktheknife
27th March 2007, 20:31
Sorry guys, I cannot make it to this one either, another commitment

Disco Dan
28th March 2007, 11:22
Anyone heading from south, central or east that doesnt quite know the way can meet me in town at 6ish, QE2 square opposite britomart.

Cheers Morcs, appreciated.

Personally, I cant find that Britomart place.. but im assured its there.

[B]If anybody needs an escort to the venue PM me.
Should be a great evening folks, you wont want to miss this!!!

hedgier1
28th March 2007, 14:12
hey guys and gals.....just a reminder about the following

tide
28th March 2007, 16:37
Bump...

See you guys there...

Morcs
28th March 2007, 17:03
All those traveling any kind of distance, especially on the motorway, take it easy and use any of the tips you have recieved from previous sessions about riding in the wind and rain. :)

Morcs
28th March 2007, 17:56
Ok i wont be riding from town, ive just scored a dinner date so will be popping down later on.

Kitty isnt meeting in town either. I will be around to point anyone who does come in the right direction though...

The Joka
28th March 2007, 21:15
THAT WAS AWESOME!

Thanks so much for organising it..

Kerri (hope thats spelt right) thanks so much you were fantastic...

:Punk: :rockon:

Fub@r
28th March 2007, 22:07
Cheers to Kerri for an informative evening and Disco for arranging it.

Will have to drop back in and get me one of those cable lubers :)

Disco Dan
28th March 2007, 22:28
Hey everyone, glad everyone had a good time! Glad to see so many people brave the weather and bring their bikes... lots of 'true bikers' on the AWNMR I see! :innocent:

Great evening had by all, lots of information to take in!

...Kerry If you read this, I forgot to pay for the tyre repair :innocent: :shutup: Will pop in and take you up on that offer though ;)

I spoke to Kerry, and he is keen to have another one in a few months time - a little more 'specific' and 'technical' this time.

I hope those that went will repay him for his time by going there for their work now!! *hint hint*

Will post an update regarding next week, by this weekend as usual.

Kittyhawk
29th March 2007, 09:14
So whats the go for next Wed???

Should do another newbie night ride :headbang: finishing up with some skills practise.

Busy
29th March 2007, 09:31
I didn't get a chance to thank Kerry or DD last night, thanks guys for a very informative night.
*wanders off to clean the chain lube off the swing arm so as not to look like someone that doesn't know how to lube a chain properly :D*

I've thought of another question (I'll probably forget by next session), how to repair a punture on the side of the road. No need for anyone to answer on here, come along to motohaus (sp?) and see if you're right.

tide
29th March 2007, 10:25
Disco thanks for organizing, and a big thank-you to Kerry for volunteering his time...

:Punk:

KLOWN
29th March 2007, 14:11
yeah, cheers kerri and dd. I think i'll be getting a cable luber too. Looks like a handy tool and those scott oilers are look damn fine. hmmm never have to clean or oil a chain again sounds pretty sweet.

Disco Dan
29th March 2007, 15:15
So whats the go for next Wed???

Suggestions are welcome for next wednesday.

As it's getting dark so early now, the carpark in westgate is generally too dark. I will be going to scout out a new practice area that is nearby and lit for us.

What would you all like to focus on during the winter?

My thoughts and suggestions:

* Night riding
* Wet riding - braking and cornering in the wet
* Bike maintenence nights

I appreciate your suggestions folks.

Morcs
29th March 2007, 16:58
Suggestions are welcome for next wednesday.

As it's getting dark so early now, the carpark in westgate is generally too dark. I will be going to scout out a new practice area that is nearby and lit for us.

What would you all like to focus on during the winter?

My thoughts and suggestions:

* Night riding
* Wet riding - braking and cornering in the wet
* Bike maintenence nights

I appreciate your suggestions folks.

How about learning the importance of not drinking and riding?....ie...lets all get shitfaced and then get a taxi home...

Nah but seriously, we do need to find a new practice area, a large lit carpark is obviously ideal, and it doesnt necessarily have to be out west, so if any of us are out in the evenings doing whatever, and see a potential venue, let us know :)

Disco Dan
29th March 2007, 18:12
Nah but seriously, we do need to find a new practice area, a large lit carpark is obviously ideal, and it doesnt necessarily have to be out west.

errr yes thank you morcs... :wacko:

Yes folks, if you find a nice spot in your travels - pref close to westgate, feel free to PM me.

FROSTY
29th March 2007, 19:24
Just a thought here folks--
Im thinking of having a bit of a show n tell evening.
looking round my gargre Ive got a carb and oil pump in bits. Electrics all unplugged.A cylinder head and all sorts of other stuff rattling around
Might be good for newbees to actually see what this stuff looks like in real life

Hanne
29th March 2007, 19:28
Frosty, i would certainly be interested in that.
I have no idea what my bike's guts look like really, curious esp. for carbs.
Sounds like a good idea!

Kittyhawk
29th March 2007, 19:57
Sounds like a good idea Frosty.

I have a problem where I strip down an engine to replace things, and then end up with left over parts not lots, but just the odd bolt and nut here and there:shutup:

Maha
29th March 2007, 20:03
Will there be tea and cake served at half time?.....:corn:

toymachine
29th March 2007, 20:36
I'd be keen on seeing the carb

I'd love to give mine a clean but don't want to blunder on in there

The Joka
29th March 2007, 21:55
Possible venue:

Westcity car park, Lit and covered..

Odd car comes through too go to The Warehouse but HUGE CAR PARK AND WELL LIT!

NO RAIN THROUGH THREE LEVELS OF CONCRETE!

Off the motorway straight down Lincoln Road into middle of Henderson, turn right at Railside, 500mtrs down on left, opposite train station.

Just watch the stupid patch of concrete that they have put in and the ridiculous bump on the train station side!

Disco Dan
30th March 2007, 06:44
Just a thought here folks--
Im thinking of having a bit of a show n tell evening.
looking round my gargre Ive got a carb and oil pump in bits. Electrics all unplugged.A cylinder head and all sorts of other stuff rattling around
Might be good for newbees to actually see what this stuff looks like in real life

Sounds like a plan Frosty - Let me know when you fancy having it (this week or next week etc). Cheers!


Possible venue:

Westcity car park, Lit and covered..

Odd car comes through too go to The Warehouse but HUGE CAR PARK AND WELL LIT!

Fantabulous, well done that man! I will go and check it out today and have a little chat to the security guards.

There is a small undercover carpark at the back of the Bendon shop in westgate, but not sure if it's lit or even open after hours.

Morcs
30th March 2007, 17:07
Possible venue:

Westcity car park, Lit and covered..

Odd car comes through too go to The Warehouse but HUGE CAR PARK AND WELL LIT!

NO RAIN THROUGH THREE LEVELS OF CONCRETE!

Off the motorway straight down Lincoln Road into middle of Henderson, turn right at Railside, 500mtrs down on left, opposite train station.

Just watch the stupid patch of concrete that they have put in and the ridiculous bump on the train station side!

Does it have heaps of concrete pillars? would be great for slalom practice :D

Timaa
30th March 2007, 18:59
where was the damn place, rode round getting soaked and couldnt find it or even see any bikes arround either... sucks. oh well. looks like i missed out on a good nyt, but i guess i got an assignment done that was due the next day that i only just found out bout. lmao. stupid girls in my class are useless... will prob be keen for next weeks...

white belt
31st March 2007, 08:09
Last week was great! - learnt heaps - Thanks Kerry

I night at Frosty's sounds like a great idea, I would love to know more about the insides of bikes.

toymachine
31st March 2007, 14:02
Some of those carpark floors at westcity are damned slippery.

The Joka
31st March 2007, 18:13
Sliipery floors are on the levels.. if you stay at the part near the train station it is all tarseal.

Diane
1st April 2007, 10:59
I am new to riding .... and loving it, but having a few hiccups sometimes with intersections. Done a 'RR RS' course at Whenuapai. I intend on being present at the Mentor evening. I will be riding a silver Qingqi bike - made in China ... being trashed in New Zealand ... :shit:

Disco Dan
1st April 2007, 11:46
Sliipery floors are on the levels.. if you stay at the part near the train station it is all tarseal.

Never found under there to be slippery, but I imagine it would be like ice when wet. Thanks for your imput folks, it looks good. I will go and check it out again on monday at about the time we would get there.


I am new to riding .... and loving it, but having a few hiccups sometimes with intersections. Done a 'RR RS' course at Whenuapai. I intend on being present at the Mentor evening. I will be riding a silver Qingqi bike - made in China ... being trashed in New Zealand ... :shit:

Welcome to KB Diane, will be great to see you on wednesday. The KB mentors have been great lending their time for this each week, and it's good to see people not being scared off by the shadow of winter! The mentor evenings incorporate some of the excercises from RRRS as well as few others. The main thing is practice. The more you do something the better you get at it. You cant come along for 1-2 then run around saying your an expert at riding around cones! We have people that have been riding for years come to just practice, and fine tune their skills. Im sure you will be able to get alot out of the evening!

Diane
1st April 2007, 13:12
Thank you for that ..... I intend making use of mentor evenings as often as my night work shift roster at Middlemore Hospital will allow ... that will be the ONLY excuse if ever I don't participate.

Kittyhawk
1st April 2007, 20:03
Hmm practising powersliding around a carpark....the mind does wonder :innocent:

FROSTY
2nd April 2007, 20:14
Ok folks NEXT wendsday Im going to have a show N tell evening.
BASICLY Im going to pull a whole bunch of bike Bits off of the shelf and show you lot what they are and what they do.
Talking theory is one thing but actually having a carby in bits in front of you is another.
If we have time Ill have a crank/rod piston head with valves cams cam chain from a motor
A carby
Clutch
Brake caliper
Switch block
Front end out of a bike to show brakes /bearings etc.
and anything else I or HINT HINT anyone else has in their gargre.
Ill be starting at 7.00

The Stranger
2nd April 2007, 20:25
Ok folks NEXT wendsday Im going to have a show N tell evening.
BASICLY Im going to pull a whole bunch of bike Bits off of the shelf and show you lot what they are and what they do.
Talking theory is one thing but actually having a carby in bits in front of you is another.
If we have time Ill have a crank/rod piston head with valves cams cam chain from a motor
A carby
Clutch
Brake caliper
Switch block
Front end out of a bike to show brakes /bearings etc.
and anything else I or HINT HINT anyone else has in their gargre.
Ill be starting at 7.00

Wouldn't it be better for us to pull apart a working bike to learn on?

I nominate Disco Dans bike.

Disco Dan
2nd April 2007, 20:25
Cheers Frosty :yes:

Blondini
2nd April 2007, 20:28
Wouldn't it be better for us to pull apart a working bike to learn on?

I nominate Disco Dans bike.

NO NO pick mine:gob:

FROSTY
2nd April 2007, 20:29
But I might leave a piston or two out--ohh he'll never know. :innocent:

Disco Dan
2nd April 2007, 20:31
thats why its running weird.... :innocent:

FROSTY
2nd April 2007, 20:40
NO NO pick mine:gob:
are you SURE--you do Know I know how to take stuff to bits--dunno how to actually put it back together

Blondini
2nd April 2007, 20:54
are you SURE--you do Know I know how to take stuff to bits--dunno how to actually put it back together

So I heard:bleh: Course I trust ya:sweatdrop :yeah:

Dodgyiti
2nd April 2007, 21:42
and anything else I or HINT HINT anyone else has in their gargre.
Ill be starting at 7.00

What a great idea. Yes it would be good for people to actually see the parts close up. May not be able to assist, but will let you know closer to the time.
Most of my parts are either at the balancing shop, machine shop, powdercoaters, chromers etc, but I was sure there was a bike in bits around here somewhere :scratch:

Lteejay
3rd April 2007, 11:59
Any word on the final plan for tomorrow night?

Disco Dan
3rd April 2007, 12:05
UPDATE:

Back to normal tomorrow folks - Meeting at westgate as usual and going to a practice area nearby.

Next week is frostys' thang.

Kittyhawk
3rd April 2007, 12:14
Kewl......Dibs not bringing the lube for the bike parts!

MadDuck
3rd April 2007, 12:15
are you SURE--you do Know I know how to take stuff to bits--dunno how to actually put it back together


Hmmmmm......believe it folks! Maybe I might need to come along put the thing back together :dodge:

Kittyhawk
3rd April 2007, 12:19
YEAH !!! you go girl!

Morcs
3rd April 2007, 17:54
Wouldn't it be better for us to pull apart a working bike to learn on?

I nominate Disco Dans bike.

I have a H1 sat in my shed that would be useful... :)

Toaster
3rd April 2007, 18:45
Hmm practising powersliding around a carpark....the mind does wonder :innocent:

Try it on a cruiser.

Disco Dan
4th April 2007, 12:11
MENTORS:

If your attending tonight to help out can you please flick me a quick PM? That includes you too please kittyhawk (your a mentor now I hear).

Morcs
4th April 2007, 16:07
For anyone wishing to do a bit more 'advanced' free practice, I shall be heading up to the rounabouts in Albany and meeting weasel en - route.

irishlad
4th April 2007, 16:24
Hi Morcs,
What you mean by more advanced training? Is that the roundabouts beside parc N Ride? Might go by later if so
Kevin

For anyone wishing to do a bit more 'advanced' free practice, I shall be heading up to the rounabouts in Albany and meeting weasel en - route.

Timaa
4th April 2007, 16:55
i think he means practice on not drinking and riding :D hahahahaha
could be good. see how interesting the actual mentor ride mite be tho. ill be there. not that im important or anything...lol. ill race ur gn... jokes. :D

irishlad
4th April 2007, 18:40
Not sure if up to a race. see you soon

i think he means practice on not drinking and riding :D hahahahaha
could be good. see how interesting the actual mentor ride mite be tho. ill be there. not that im important or anything...lol. ill race ur gn... jokes. :D

Lteejay
4th April 2007, 23:02
Good to see everyone again tonight. Cheers to everybody, Noel for the braking tips and disco dan and kittyhawk for getting my gear lever moveable again.

The Stranger
4th April 2007, 23:16
Good to see everyone again tonight. Cheers to everybody, Noel for the braking tips and disco dan and kittyhawk for getting my gear lever moveable again.

You did bloody well, you were giving it hell.
I was real impressed with everyone to be honest, great to see.

The Stranger
4th April 2007, 23:40
If anyone feels that they would like some one on one time to go for a ride and get some training by day please feel free to PM me.

There are some excellent roads around here that will let you experience a wide variety of conditions, or you may have specific issues which you would like advice or help on.

Just an offer to get more experience than we can reasonably offer on the Wednesday night.

Disco Dan
5th April 2007, 03:20
Great evening folks!

Big thanks to the mentors: Big Dog, The Stranger, Crashe and Kittyhawk for this evening. Was a nice turnout and lots learned!

Was nice to catch up with you all at the pub too!

Morcs
5th April 2007, 11:39
Anyone see my powerslide going back pass the shell just as you were all leaving?

I was stoked with it... :laugh:

Me, weasel, dan and gremlin had a good rounabout session, met up with Mack and had a good evening.

Was cringing watching gremlie ride around on the zx10 side saddle, but jees... well done mate :)

Disco Dan
5th April 2007, 14:01
Anyone see my powerslide going back pass the shell just as you were all leaving?

I was stoked with it... :laugh:


I wondered where you went... did not see/hear you leave. Good to see you setting a good example as usual... *rolls eyes*



Remember folks - Frosty has kindly set up a great evening for people to learn about the insides of bikes next wednesday. If your interested you need to contact him quick smart as places are going quick! LINK. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=47299)

Kittyhawk
7th April 2007, 01:11
Try it on a cruiser.
Quiet, and sexy is all they are hehehe.




MENTORS:


If your attending tonight to help out can you please flick me a quick PM? That includes you too please kittyhawk (your a mentor now I hear).

Which night are you referring to? Is this for the upcoming wed? or the one just gone? sorry Im really tired and just catching up on all the kb business:shutup:


Good to see everyone again tonight. Cheers to everybody, Noel for the braking tips and disco dan and kittyhawk for getting my gear lever moveable again.

You did great!! Really opened her up and gave ya bike a good working over. As for the repairs, I usually carry tools and a puncture repair kit for the odd occasion when things do go wrong. Does your bike have a little repair kit/tools under your seat?

Jerms
8th April 2007, 10:45
Sorry, not sure if this is the right place to ask but haven't found any info elsewhere at this site...

Just purchased my first bike and would like to catch up with others for rides, advice and helpful hints (constructive criticism...). Sounds like some awesome knowledge sharing and such assistance in Auckland...what about in Christchurch?

Thanks.

crashe
8th April 2007, 10:52
Sorry, not sure if this is the right place to ask but haven't found any info elsewhere at this site...

Just purchased my first bike and would like to catch up with others for rides, advice and helpful hints (constructive criticism...). Sounds like some awesome knowledge sharing and such assistance in Auckland...what about in Christchurch?

Thanks.

Welcome to KB.

Contact Dangerous, Rashika or Sniper (miss sniper) and they will be able to help you out as they all live down in the Chch area.

There are other KBers living down there.

Also check out the 'mentor' list under 'search' and it should bring up someone down there.

Big Dog
9th April 2007, 21:18
Sniff, Sniff, do I smell a road trip?

Disco Dan
10th April 2007, 14:24
Sniff, Sniff, do I smell a road trip?

either that or your fuel line is leaking... :gob:

I will be at westgate 6:30pm Wednesday as per usual folks. Those of you not going to Frosty's and want to practice, let me know. Depending on how much interest there is etc.

Big Dog
10th April 2007, 18:55
either that or your fuel line is leaking... :gob:

I will be at westgate 6:30pm Wednesday as per usual folks. Those of you not going to Frosty's and want to practice, let me know. Depending on how much interest there is etc.

+1 I do not want to take up a seat at the event that would be of more value to someone else.
BIG CREDIT to Frosty for doing the event and the organising.
:first:

FROSTY
10th April 2007, 19:06
Dan --lets make this simple---How about You make the meeting place same as normal--and then anyone coming to my place head on down together--its about 3k's from westgate

Kittyhawk
10th April 2007, 20:46
Careful with those directions....:innocent:

Disco Dan
10th April 2007, 22:03
Dan --lets make this simple---How about You make the meeting place same as normal--and then anyone coming to my place head on down together--its about 3k's from westgate

Yep, that was the idea. :innocent:

Everybody meet at westgate, those going to your place can then go together. And those that wish to have a practice can do so with Big Dog and I.

Macktheknife
11th April 2007, 14:00
Sorry guys I cannot make this one as family commitments take precedence, but I will be along soonish.
Noel and I have plans for a good test for those who are keen to improve.
Details to follow.

Morcs
11th April 2007, 15:31
Yep i wont be there either, got a female commitment...

ArcherWC
11th April 2007, 16:18
Yep i wont be there either, got a female commitment...
Got your period ?

Morcs
11th April 2007, 17:03
Got your period ?

Something like that... except the occurance is a hell of a lot more than monthly... :gob:

Kittyhawk
11th April 2007, 17:26
Dont even mention that part of a females moodswing!

You males have no idea on this one!!

The Stranger
11th April 2007, 17:31
Dont even mention that part of a females moodswing!

You males have no idea on this one!!

Oh we do, believe me, we do

Busy
11th April 2007, 17:49
So is anyone coming, err going tonight?

Morcs
11th April 2007, 17:51
Oh we do, believe me, we do

Second that...

Lets not go there ay...

ArcherWC
12th April 2007, 07:59
Second that...

Lets not go there ay...
And third.

Back on track, the weather looks like its packed up for tonight

Kittyhawk
12th April 2007, 17:55
Stuck inside, dont want to get wet....Aww terrible day!

The Stranger
12th April 2007, 18:36
Stuck inside, dont want to get wet....Aww terrible day!

Never mind, I see in another thread you, skidmark and morcs are having a threesome.

Enjoy.

Disco Dan
13th April 2007, 17:28
UPDATE:

Next wednesday - April 18th

Meeting at westgate as usual, and directed to a practice area by KB mentors.

Kittyhawk
16th April 2007, 11:24
Never mind, I see in another thread you, skidmark and morcs are having a threesome.

Enjoy.

Lol Aww shucks..... feeling left out?? Will make it up to ya :shutup:

The Stranger
16th April 2007, 12:17
Lol Aww shucks..... feeling left out?? Will make it up to ya :shutup:

Yeah :crybaby: I so wished it was me with Morcs and Skidmark :spanking: .

Kittyhawk
16th April 2007, 14:42
Aww some serious mentoring going on there then huh?:shutup:

Morcs
16th April 2007, 16:18
Aww some serious mentoring going on there then huh?:shutup:

So we covering Spitroasts this week?

Noel can be mentor, kitty can be demonstrator and i can be n00b...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Disco Dan
16th April 2007, 18:08
UPDATE:

Next wednesday - April 18th

Meeting at westgate as usual, and directed to a practice area by KB mentors.

This week we will be having a visitor from the Rodney District Police to talk to us all about road safety.

Those of you who are riding outside of your license conditions may wish to think about which bike you stand near.... :innocent: ...although he will not be there to check bikes/riders legality. So your call if you want to take the risk or not.



Big thanks to Big Dog for organising this weeks session! Your a legend!

Ixion
16th April 2007, 18:28
It's not that blurdy ginga cunt is it ?

Disco Dan
16th April 2007, 18:47
It's not that blurdy ginga cunt is it ?

errrm not entirely sure of his "hair colour" it wasnt something I thought of when discussing this with Big Dog!

Disco Dan
17th April 2007, 13:27
Weather Update:


Remember this event runs even if raining!!!! It's all good practice!!!

The Joka
17th April 2007, 19:16
I will hopefully make it through the traffic...

Will be in car though, waiting for bike to come out of workshop!

Thought that I would come and see what it is all about!

Cheers

The Stranger
17th April 2007, 21:42
UPDATE:

Next wednesday - April 18th

Meeting at westgate as usual, and directed to a practice area by KB mentors.

This week we will be having a visitor from the Rodney District Police to talk to us all about road safety.

Those of you who are riding outside of your license conditions may wish to think about which bike you stand near.... :innocent: ...although he will not be there to check bikes/riders legality. So your call if you want to take the risk or not.



Big thanks to Big Dog for organising this weeks session! Your a legend!

I think this is an awesome idea and we should all ensure we support it.

Well done Disco and Big Dog.

Come on people.

Sanx
17th April 2007, 21:57
How suitable is this ride for people who are just starting out. I've a friend who is interested, but she's unwilling even to tackle the ride up the northwestern. I've offered to ride her bike up there and she'll follow in her cage. She really needs the absolute basics: stopping, starting, balance and so on. Actually, considering she came off and ended up in the ER only an hour into her motorcycling career, she really needs confidence more than anything.

Ixion
17th April 2007, 22:29
Exactly who the evenings are intended for. She wouldn't be the first too nervous to face the motorway. Tell her to come along.

Disco Dan
17th April 2007, 22:58
How suitable is this ride for people who are just starting out. I've a friend who is interested, but she's unwilling even to tackle the ride up the northwestern. I've offered to ride her bike up there and she'll follow in her cage. She really needs the absolute basics: stopping, starting, balance and so on. Actually, considering she came off and ended up in the ER only an hour into her motorcycling career, she really needs confidence more than anything.

Yeah what ixion said, bring her along thats what the AWNMR is for.

Plenty of very highly experienced and skilled KB mentors attend each week to help everyone out.

:sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

Sanx
17th April 2007, 23:23
Thanks guys. I'll see if she's available and if she is, we'll see you tomorrow. And we'll see how well the other half reacts to me spending an evening with a cute Asian chick ...

Karma
17th April 2007, 23:53
This week we will be having a visitor from the Rodney District Police to talk to us all about road safety.

Those of you who are riding outside of your license conditions may wish to think about which bike you stand near.... :innocent: ...although he will not be there to check bikes/riders legality. So your call if you want to take the risk or not.

So I assume you're not going?

The Stranger
18th April 2007, 07:35
And we'll see how well the other half reacts to me spending an evening with a cute Asian chick ...

So I guess you already have PMs from Disco Dan and Spankme offering to take her?

Disco Dan
18th April 2007, 11:17
So I guess you already have PMs from Disco Dan and Spankme offering to take her?

No he doesnt actualy! If I hit on every chick that came along it would just be guys each week... the phrase "online world and reality" rarely appear in the same sentence with me. *rolls eyes*

Well I better pull my finger out and get this screen painted before this evening... :yes: :scooter:

Its all on like donkey kong today folks, the only time I will cancel is during horizontal rain! So get out there !!

Disco Dan
18th April 2007, 16:02
* bump bump *

Morcs
18th April 2007, 17:06
No he doesnt actualy! If I hit on every chick that came along it would just be guys each week... the phrase "online world and reality" rarely appear in the same sentence with me. *rolls eyes*

Well I better pull my finger out and get this screen painted before this evening... :yes: :scooter:

Its all on like donkey kong today folks, the only time I will cancel is during horizontal rain! So get out there !!

Did ya pickup the screen? I was just wondering if i should forward you the guys details or not...

Anyways i wont be there. My bike will be staying in my shed until saturday :(

Disco Dan
18th April 2007, 17:11
Did ya pickup the screen? I was just wondering if i should forward you the guys details or not...

Anyways i wont be there. My bike will be staying in my shed until saturday :(

sheesh your on the ball... picked it up yesterday and finished and fitted today. Way ahead of ya ;)

All good, gimme a yell if you need a hand mate.

See you all at westgate folks!

vamr
19th April 2007, 00:59
Cheers to everyone who had a hand in organising tonight's ride/practice.
Good to meet all those who attended.
Was awesome to get advice and feedback, makes me wish I could attend more often but alas...

(and yes, I'm the one with the "sewing machine")

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 01:36
Cheers to everyone who had a hand in organising tonight's ride/practice.
Good to meet all those who attended.
Was awesome to get advice and feedback, makes me wish I could attend more often but alas...

(and yes, I'm the one with the "sewing machine")

Good to hear you took something from it!

Great to meet some new faces and see everyone again :yes: :scooter:

Big thanks to Macktheknife, Big Dog and Crashe for your time! It is very much appreciated!

I certainly took alot away from this evening, and made me look at my own riding diferently from last week.. which was again diferent from the week before etc etc! When you seen others improving and yourself improving its a great feeling!

Daniel :sunny:

Morcs
19th April 2007, 15:20
I have a suggestion.

Considering next wednesday is a national holiday - how many people have commitments that day?

Im thinking we could move the ride to earlier in the day..mmm... daylight...

Discuss.


Ps. Love the sig Dan...

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 15:29
I have a suggestion.

Considering next wednesday is a national holiday - how many people have commitments that day?

Im thinking we could move the ride to earlier in the day..mmm... daylight...

Discuss.


Ps. Love the sig Dan...

Good point, I gather that means no-one/not many will be working that day? If so and also assuming people dont have other commitments, it would be possible to make use of daylight earlier in the day...

Im open to suggestions and feedback...

Kittyhawk
19th April 2007, 16:37
Maybe a small day trip somewhere....

Could do the Kawakawa bay loop.
Or take a run up 16 to Wellsford and back.

Nothing too over the top. :innocent: But something with lots of twisties hehehe

Morcs
19th April 2007, 17:01
Maybe a small day trip somewhere....

Could do the Kawakawa bay loop.
Or take a run up 16 to Wellsford and back.

Nothing too over the top. :innocent: But something with lots of twisties hehehe

As long as everyone rides there own ride...

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 17:03
As long as everyone rides there own ride... i barely go below ***kph heading to wellsford hehe :D

OI, go back to the first post of this thread Morcs and read it again. NEWB RIDE.

You should be setting a good example. :angry:

Morcs
19th April 2007, 17:07
OI, go back to the first post of this thread Morcs and read it again. NEWB RIDE.

You should be setting a good example. :angry:

Learning to ride your own ride is as good an example as any.

Too many mistakes are made by trying to ride someone elses ride/pace.

And people learning not to try and keep up with faster riders is a very important thing. ala Disco corner.

Kittyhawk
19th April 2007, 17:08
Well if the weather is good, we should go for a bit of a ride to put our newly learned skills into practise...countersteering etc.

Maybe do a ride up to Puhoi pub?? Good roads, easy and not too far away. And theres other bikers there too...always good to have a yarn..

Or out east for a change? Go to Kaiaua for lunch? Its a very popular biker route.

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 17:09
Learning to ride your own ride is as good an example as any.

Too many mistakes are made by trying to ride someone elses ride/pace.

And people learning not to try and keep up with faster riders is a very important thing. ala Disco corner.

I was referring to the boi racer behaviour.... PM if you want more clarification. Rather not clutter up this thread anymore!

Karma
19th April 2007, 17:26
You should be setting a good example. :angry:


A key quality of any mentor... lead by example.

Morcs
19th April 2007, 17:31
A key quality of any mentor... lead by example.

Indeed and im not a mentor. I am an individual. I ride my own ride. I learn from my mistakes and others can learn from my mistakes too. As some of us dont necessarily have the experience (although ive been riding longer than a lot of people of bigger bikes) I help people how i can.

Lets not get too anal and serious about this whole thing as it will soon defeat the object why we ride - for the fun and thrill.

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 17:31
A key quality of any mentor... lead by example.

Very sarki "weasel" thanks... ...im trying to make sure he will set a good example as a 'more experienced' rider than alot of new riders. There is lots more improvement and experience required before there are any new 'mentors'.

We are all learning remember ;)

Kittyhawk
19th April 2007, 17:36
Hmm *shakes head*

Morcs
19th April 2007, 17:42
Maybe I should set an example for some people by swallowing my pride and admitting im a complete n00b?

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 17:46
Maybe I should set an example for some people by swallowing my pride and admitting im a complete n00b?

ok ok folks....

This is not the place for this discussion.




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TOPIC AT HAND is next wednesday is a public holiday -

Can I have some constructive feedback please on your suggestions for doing the AWNMR session during the day this time, as a once off thing to make use of the daylight?

Morcs
19th April 2007, 17:53
[B]ok ok folks....

This is not the place for this discussion.

Skirting the point eh?

Then where is the place for the discussion? You never mention anything in person, only on the internet. PMs wont do either. If you have any issues, talk to me, i get a lot more wound up when shit is argued against me online.

Back on topic, i take back my idea of doing it in the day as im organizing a ride to mangawai, anyone wishing to come for an open road ride rather than a carpark ride, there is a thread in the meetings section.

Im leaving this thread for a while. Sort of defeats the object of an open forum.

Karma
19th April 2007, 17:55
Back on topic, i take back my idea of doing it in the day as im organizing a ride to mangawai, anyone wishing to come for an open road ride rather than a carpark ride, there is a thread in the meetings section.


I'd recommend a decent length country ride would be a good idea, you can only learn so much in a car park after all, and those afraid of moving from the theory to the practice may find they've taken up the wrong hobby.

And on that note, weather looks good for a ride tonight...

The Stranger
19th April 2007, 18:30
Maybe I should set an example for some people by swallowing my pride

That would be a neat party trick. Doesn't it hurt your back though?

Big Dog
19th April 2007, 19:37
I have a suggestion.

Considering next wednesday is a national holiday - how many people have commitments that day?

Im thinking we could move the ride to earlier in the day..mmm... daylight...

Discuss.


Ps. Love the sig Dan...

Unless you are meaning 5pm at the north shore area or 5:30 at westgate you will have to count me out because I work MOST public holidays, can't afford not to and most of the pillocks of this world are are on the road.

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 22:26
Unless you are meaning 5pm at the north shore area or 5:30 at westgate you will have to count me out because I work MOST public holidays, can't afford not to and most of the pillocks of this world are are on the road.

Im just "throwing the idea out there" - appreciate your feedback, and glad you can read!

Ixion
19th April 2007, 22:32
So - why not a ride in the afternoon, finishing at the Westgate around 7 as usual, for critiquing and practice of what was observed to need work (an maybe the theory of it) . That covers all bases.

Big Dog
19th April 2007, 22:56
So - why not a ride in the afternoon, finishing at the Westgate around 7 as usual, for critiquing and practice of what was observed to need work (an maybe the theory of it) . That covers all bases.

Sounds like a brilliant Idea.

Disco Dan
19th April 2007, 23:21
Yes, good thinking Ixion !

Morcs
20th April 2007, 09:44
That would be a neat party trick. Doesn't it hurt your back though?

Doesnt hurt my back, just hurts all over... I don't do it too often. Some other people should try it, they might be better at it than I...


Unless you are meaning 5pm at the north shore area or 5:30 at westgate you will have to count me out because I work MOST public holidays, can't afford not to and most of the pillocks of this world are are on the road.

Fair enough. I have a suggestion then, meeting at westgate as usual and usual activities. But during the day, if people want to, join an open ride, without the whole mentor thing, and like Karma said,
and those afraid of moving from the theory to the practice may find they've taken up the wrong hobby.
Good practice nonetheless then they can liase and get feedback of how the ride was with mentors that evening.

Disco Dan
20th April 2007, 18:10
AWNMR - Wednesday Night Mentor Ride
25th April

What - Newbie training/confidence session
When - Wednesdays
Where - Meet at shell westgate then directed to a practice area nearby
Why - A chance for new riders and learners to get practical advice on your riding and learn new skills from site mentors.
Time - SEE BELOW


Directed at new riders looking for confidence and training -
all are welcome to attend and learn


Next Meeting - Wednesday 25th April

This week as it is Anzac day, we are going to incorporate a ride during the day and finish up at westgate by 6:30pm to meet those that are working for practice session as usual.

Meeting at westgate 12PM (lunchtime) - following me to meet the other half of the group at Mobil on the Panmure roundabout in east Auckland. From there we will follow Kittyhawk (our mentor for the ride) to Whitford, Clevedon, then Kawakawa Bay, Kaiaua then Miranda. Take main road back to Bombays then motorway back to westgate for 6:30pm practice.

This ride is open to ALL 250cc riders of any skill level - however please note this is going to be a primarily 'beginners' ride and will be at a slow pace.

All riders: There will be NO overtaking on the left. NO dangerous riding behaviour. Those that cannot behave will be told to leave. We will be using the pointer system used on most KB rides and this will be explained in detail on the day to those that are unfamiliar with it. There will also be a tail end biker (Me) so that no-one gets left behind or lost. There will be several stops along the way so no-one gets tired. I advise you all to dress warmly and if the weather looks grim bring your wet weather gear also. This ride is approx 100km long and is suitable for all learners.


Meeting in Shell, Westgate at 12pm and follow me to Mobile Panmure (roundabout) to join a secondary group.






AWNMR - Carpark Practice:



Meeting in Shell, Westgate at 6:30PM and directed to a practice area nearby.


Please ask if you would like an escort to the venue and I will organise something for you

Starting with a practice session covering a range of different skills and techniques under the close supervision of experienced KB mentors.

Depending on numbers and experience levels of those attending, a short ride may be included to practice further skills.

Finishing at Miss Q's in Westgate for a drink/food and debriefing from mentor.

Just a note here folks
We are a bunch of reasonably experienced riders who are happy to pass on our riding experience in an informal way
It will NEVER replace training from Qualified instructors like the Ride Safe course or the 1 on 1 training people like TRICIA1000 are able to give you --- Frosty

PLEASE FOLKS THIS IS NOT A GENERAL OPEN RIDE -IF YOU WANNA SHOW OFF YOUR MONO SKILLS DO IT ANOTHER NIGHT

Disco Dan
20th April 2007, 18:14
You may meet at either:

Westgate Shell 12pm

or

Panmure roundabout Mobil 12pm

Those that meet at westgate will follow me to Panmure where we will meet the other half of our group and Kittyhawk will lead from there after a briefing.

Big Dog
20th April 2007, 18:27
Crikey a 6 and a half hour ride to cover 100km. You really did take Macktheknife seriously with the slow as possible race idea huh?

On a more serious note:
If you are embarking on an endeavor such as this it is good manners to fill your bike before departing from the first stop and repeat any time another rider needs to refuel. It is not nice being on a group ride when one or more people run out of gas and is worse when someone different wants to stop at each gas station.

In addition prior to departure ensure you have:
Lubed (while hot) and adjusted your chain the day before.
If you are not taking money to buy food, take some food.

During the ride:
Make sure you keep your fluids up.
Make sure you have adequate gear.
Be courteous to all road users, especially fellow newbies.

If you have ear plugs take them, a long ride can really harm ears that are not used to it. (sore ears really mess with your balance, not good on a bike)

Have fun, keep the black bits down and shiny bits up.

Disco Dan
21st April 2007, 12:21
Crikey a 6 and a half hour ride to cover 100km. You really did take Macktheknife seriously with the slow as possible race idea huh?

hehe, yes it may look that way but rest assured we plan to have plenty of stops and time for riders to ask questions etc.


On a more serious note:
If you are embarking on an endeavor such as this it is good manners to fill your bike before departing from the first stop and repeat any time another rider needs to refuel. It is not nice being on a group ride when one or more people run out of gas and is worse when someone different wants to stop at each gas station.

In addition prior to departure ensure you have:
Lubed (while hot) and adjusted your chain the day before.
If you are not taking money to buy food, take some food.

During the ride:
Make sure you keep your fluids up.
Make sure you have adequate gear.
Be courteous to all road users, especially fellow newbies.

If you have ear plugs take them, a long ride can really harm ears that are not used to it. (sore ears really mess with your balance, not good on a bike)

Have fun, keep the black bits down and shiny bits up.

Great advice, thanks Big Dog.

I will bring along some chain lube and a first aid kit etc depending if I have room.

Busy
21st April 2007, 17:17
hehe, yes it may look that way but rest assured we plan to have plenty of stops and time for riders to ask questions etc.Are we there yet? Are we there yet? :dodge:

I might have someone coming along to the mentor section (not the ride), she's been riding a while but is keen to come along and see Disco Dan's cones and the length of the hose he uses but is worried about the fact he can't keep it up (the leg that is) and is very quick when he is meant to be very slow. muhahaha :nya:
Sorry Dan, she's married (not to me)

Morcs
21st April 2007, 20:37
.........................

Disco Dan
21st April 2007, 22:45
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? :dodge:

I might have someone coming along to the mentor section (not the ride), she's been riding a while but is keen to come along and see Disco Dan's cones and the length of the hose he uses but is worried about the fact he can't keep it up (the leg that is) and is very quick when he is meant to be very slow. muhahaha :nya:
Sorry Dan, she's married (not to me)

Your in luck Busy !

I have just spoken to Macktheknife, and he is going to be bringing along his giant hose again for us to practice on!

Kittyhawk
21st April 2007, 23:55
Kewl.:shutup: Wonder what the 3rd hose exercise was....

Disco Dan
22nd April 2007, 14:42
Kittyhawk and I have talked about the route and we are making sure there is heaps of stops - so people can ask questions and have a rest etc.

I understand that this may be a long ride for some new riders - so rest assured I will be prepared and we shall make sure everyone enjoys themselves!

Ixion
22nd April 2007, 15:04
Some of that road is a bit tricky. So I suggest you split experienced riders (not necessarily mentors, but make sure they are sane riders) up amongst the less experienced, so every novice has an experienced rider in site to follow.

Kittyhawk
22nd April 2007, 23:37
Greetings!!

I just ran the route quickly today....it was good, Clevedon to Kawakawa bay no problems with the seal on roads...however....

The first set of tight twisties between Kawakawa bay and Kaiaua has had roadworks done (its my favourite set of twisties!!!). It's been sealed but there is still loose stones in places.

It's not gravel hardcore but we do need to take care on this particular stretch of road. If you ride to your comfort zone in this area you will be fine :Punk:

A tip for traveling from Kaiaua to Miranda....there is the odd sharp corner of 35km/hr and it is where some bins happen....

Tis all good though we wont be going at lightening speed. But at a good steady nana pace to enjoy everything.

Should be a good ride...(and will bring the camera)

Disco Dan
23rd April 2007, 12:03
You can register your attendance for the DAY RIDE on wednesday HERE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1255&day=2007-4-25&).


The evening AWNMR Practice is going to incorporate some NEW activities !

You guys thought riding along a flattened fire hose was interesting! ...there is going to be a flipping motorcycle adventure playground set up! All sorts of diferent and interesting activities for us all!

Lots to get through this week, so please arrive as early as you can to Shell so we can get started ASAP.

Morcs
23rd April 2007, 17:14
You can register your attendance for the DAY RIDE on wednesday HERE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1255&day=2007-4-25&).


The evening AWNMR Practice is going to incorporate some NEW activities !

You guys thought riding along a flattened fire hose was interesting! ...there is going to be a flipping motorcycle adventure playground set up! All sorts of diferent and interesting activities for us all!

Lots to get through this week, so please arrive as early as you can to Shell so we can get started ASAP.

If there is a ladder involved then it must mack/noels doing... hehe

and no im not riding side saddle! :laugh:

Busy
23rd April 2007, 21:03
You guys thought riding along a flattened fire hose was interesting! ...there is going to be a flipping motorcycle adventure playground set up! All sorts of diferent and interesting activities for us all! Sounds like the Easter show ... Just remember a lot of newbies and others, I'll include myself in this, don't do a lot of 100 k + rides so may be suffering from sore butts by the end of it (even with breaks), so the mentor session afterwards may not get everyone at their best.

Now if I could only figure a way to include a coffee cup holder on my bike I'd be set :Punk:

Disco Dan
23rd April 2007, 21:11
Sounds like the Easter show ... Just remember a lot of newbies and others, I'll include myself in this, don't do a lot of 100 k + rides so may be suffering from sore butts by the end of it (even with breaks), so the mentor session afterwards may not get everyone at their best.

Now if I could only figure a way to include a coffee cup holder on my bike I'd be set :Punk:

Yes, I realise that! You have the choice to either attend both or one or the other. You know how to carry a line through a corner Busy, and have good throttle control etc so you would prob gain more from coming along to the practice and riding over ladders!!! If you ever need to get your bike on the back of a ute using a ladder you will be sorted! (wont be that advanced folks dont worry!)

I dont get a choice in the matter! Im also doing a night shift that finishes at 7:30am wednesday morning.... 4 hours sleep then riding all day and practice in the evening finishing at the pub at 10pm.... you think YOU will be tired!!! ;) Hows that for commitment!

Busy
24th April 2007, 09:16
I'll be there for the ride, 90% of my riding is just commuting and as open road riding is totally different I need some more hours in the seat on open roads.

I take my hat off to you for your commitment, just know your limits and don't over do them

The Stranger
24th April 2007, 09:36
I'll include myself in this, don't do a lot of 100 k + rides so may be suffering from sore butts by the end of it (even with breaks), so the mentor session afterwards may not get everyone at their best.



Don't worry, one of the mentors will massage your butt for you dear. Disco or Kitty - your choice.

Kittyhawk
24th April 2007, 13:29
Don't worry, one of the mentors will massage your butt for you dear. Disco or Kitty - your choice.

Hehehe why do you think I spank myself when I pass other riders?! :innocent:

Dont worry bout the ass.....

Kittyhawk
24th April 2007, 13:41
Oh lost another cell phone last night.......so if you guys have my number dont txt it :shutup:

Disco Dan
24th April 2007, 14:42
I'll be there for the ride, 90% of my riding is just commuting and as open road riding is totally different I need some more hours in the seat on open roads.

Good on you! Thats the same with me too, too much commuting and not enough twisties! See you wednesday! Will you have teddies? :innocent:


Oh lost another cell phone last night.......so if you guys have my number dont txt it :shutup:

Another one? What are you upto now? 6? 7? ...that you have lost? If I was your insurance company....... sheesh!

Kittyhawk
24th April 2007, 14:46
Ive given up with cell phones.

Cant be f***ed with any more from now on.

The Stranger
24th April 2007, 14:54
Meeting in Shell, Westgate at 12pm and follow me to Mobile Panmure (roundabout) to join a secondary group.


Follow you?
You have enough trouble finding stationary objects how you going to find a mobile roundabout?

Disco Dan
24th April 2007, 14:57
Ive given up with cell phones.

Cant be f***ed with any more from now on.

Try telepathy ;)


Follow you?
You have enough trouble finding stationary objects how you going to find a mobile roundabout?

oh geezz here we go!

If your coming along for the day ride also, you can lead us there! I know where the roundabout is in Panmure believe it or not... :yes:

Kittyhawk
24th April 2007, 15:14
Lol Nope I aint goin to try nuffin!

Morcs
24th April 2007, 16:51
Oh lost another cell phone last night.......so if you guys have my number dont txt it :shutup:

Was an eventful night last night eh? not sure if you remember much.... lots of knee sliding, a good bin save, a good bin, a collision with a traffic cone, a lost cellphone, and some alchohol... oh and me showing you how to do a burnout on your bike hehe :D

Fub@r
24th April 2007, 17:20
You may meet at either:

Westgate Shell 12pm

or

Panmure roundabout Mobil 12pm

Those that meet at westgate will follow me to Panmure where we will meet the other half of our group and Kittyhawk will lead from there after a briefing.

If the Panmure guys are meeting at 12 wouldn't the Westgate people be better to meet at 11.30?

Rather than taking the motorway back from Bombay anyone interested in coming back through the Hunua's?

Morcs
24th April 2007, 17:22
If the Panmure guys are meeting at 12 wouldn't the Westgate people be better to meet at 11.30?



Yeah I thought that was a bit weird... the people who wait at panmure will be waiting a long time for the westgate lot to turn up.

Im heading straight to panmure... do some knee sliding on that rounabout hehe

Disco Dan
24th April 2007, 17:33
If the Panmure guys are meeting at 12 wouldn't the Westgate people be better to meet at 11.30?

Rather than taking the motorway back from Bombay anyone interested in coming back through the Hunua's?

I will be bringing the group to panmure, 10 minute briefing then we are all leaving together. Gives a chance for any late comers to arrive. Does not take long to get to Panmure.

Depending on time and everyones fatigue levels (as this will be a long ride for some and bear in mind most will be then coming to the carpark in Albany for the practice session) we decided to take the mway back to westgate to simplify things.

Morcs: you been out being a hoolagoon again? tisk tisk! You will find this ride slow, but as long as you realise that i'll see you there. :Punk:

QMOTO
24th April 2007, 17:37
Mind If I tag along ??
Not sure where shell westgate is but I guees its west auckland somewhere by a gate I suppose ?