Respect the Cops? WHY! [Archive] - Page 2

mstriumph

26th March 2007, 12:34

i'm not soft on bullies, either in or out of uniform .... but just because each one of us has probably met one or two of the 'power-crazed, jack-booted, arrogant-bastard' type of cop DOESN't mean we should generalize and tar the entire force with the same brush?

over here the police bikers seem to be aware that they are negatively- stereotyped and have taken the initiative to try and overcome this 2007 WA police bike rides (http://ulysses-wa.info/CoffeeRunFlyer2007.pdf)

in general chat with them on these things, it has seemed to me that they welcome the opportunity of being seen/treated as individuals instead of 'them' .......

i suspect this is much the same as the way the rest of us are relieved when someone sees us as human rather than the 'dangerous, lunatic biker' way the media portray us, based on the idiotic actions of a few of our number

ahhhhhhhhh c/mon, fellas [and fella-ettes] fair do's .......... save your ire for the ones that personally do you wrong ... there's MUCH more kudos in facing down a bully one on one in person than generalizing on here .....

and, conversely, the cops on here should probably NOT be taking it personally if people slang off in open forum.. just recognise it for the stress-relief it most probably is?

ok :sunny: sally sunshine out!:done:

Ixion

26th March 2007, 12:43

Hm. Well, full marks for the WA police for initiative, anyway.

But I can't really see such a scheme working in NZ. On the face of it a chance to leverage off police biker skills would be a very good thing (those guys are GOOD), however given the speed focused nature of NZ policing, it would be a pretty artificial sort of ride: nobody venturing over 90kph, slowing down to the signed recommendation on every corner and so on.

Personally , my every instinct is to keep as much distance between me and plodpersons as possible. Dunno that I'd feel very comfortable riding with them. "Staged" events like the Westpac helicopter runa re a bit different , they're more of a procession than a ride, nobody's expecting to learn anything.

Anyway, if it doesn't generate revenue I can't see Police HQ agreeing to it.

dhunt

26th March 2007, 12:51

Hm. Well, full marks for the WA police for initiative, anyway.

But I can't really see such a scheme working in NZ. On the face of it a chance to leverage off police biker skills would be a very good thing (those guys are GOOD), however given the speed focused nature of NZ policing, it would be a pretty artificial sort of ride: nobody venturing over 90kph, slowing down to the signed recommendation on every corner and so on.

You haven't been on the annual coast to coast ride then. With a marked police car leading about 400 bikes we weren't going what you call slow or necessarily sticking to any speed limits. I would say we were riding to the conditions though.

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 12:58

I get recognised a lot when im off duty. To say that i don't is rubbish.

At the end of the day your not a cop, and i doubt with your mindset you have made friends of any cops, so you dont really know what your talking about.

What do they do point and laugh?

"Hey look mom, there's that kid from school who had no mates and joined the pigs. Do you think he still likes to touch other boys pee pee's?"

You must be a real celeb. Are you gonna do a shoot in Womans Day soon?

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 13:14

When you loose an argument for whatever reason your need to resort to a torrent of feeble expletives in some attempt to offend me makes you look like a clown.

Whatever cocksmoker, at least I don't need a uniform to help me!

Have you been taking english lessons from Hitcher? You never used to know so many big words Dyna, I am impressed.

There was no argument to lose, specifically not with you, Cuntstubble. You're just a thick plod.

peasea

26th March 2007, 13:25

Interesting banter here....I'm not sure how helpful name-calling is but for what it's worth (not a lot to most probably) I'd make this suggestion; if you don't like cops, avoid them.

I find getting off the main highways as often as possible lowers the risk of getting plucked speeding. I break the limit all the time, always have, always will, but I ride/drive to the conditions, which is how I have survived so long. If you're going 140k on your local main drag you're likely to get pinged. 140 on a back road usually gets you there untouched. However, I stand by my words in another thread on bikers and the law "plead not guilty, make them work for it".

Patrick

26th March 2007, 13:31

That's a load of shit Ix, sorry.

Unless they go out in uniform or playing hard man cos "i'm a pig" then the chances of them even getting noticed are slim. Unless they have FILTH tattooed on their forehead.

Are you telling me that cops never go out on the town? No wonder Dyna seems so sexually frustrated, he probably never gets invited to the gang bangs either.

What you smokin Lewis?????? Flush it next time, don't play with ya babies after a dump.

Ixion has it spot on.

Some, but very few in my experience, would play tough guy cop on the piss because he will definitely get his head kicked in, either by a skidmark oxygen thief, or sorted by those he is with.......

Recognised as cops all too often in Auckland, all it takes is for a bit of talk to be overheard, like anyone else talking in a pub...

Even more recognisable in smaller centres. Only place to genuinely relax is a Police Bar, but they are closing because the bosses don't like the "image" of a bar on Police premesis. Just ask Takapuna Station about their bar...

Yep, we do go out on the town once in a while, but like Dyna50, rarely with other cops.

And Na, no invites to the gang bangs... those three had it all sewn up.

Patrick

26th March 2007, 13:35

Bollocks.

If you look the same in and out of uniform then you need a make over, call 0800 MAURICE for a Queer Eye NOW.

Uh huh...

Clean shaven, fit, healthy looking, tidy clothes... yep... we do look out of place.... what were we thinking?

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 13:40

Uh huh...

Clean shaven, fit, healthy looking, tidy clothes... yep... we do look out of place.... what were we thinking?

<img src-"http://jobyone.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/060616-fat-cop.jpg">

Uh huh....

Edbear

26th March 2007, 13:46

Uh huh...

Clean shaven, fit, healthy looking, tidy clothes... yep... we do look out of place.... what were we thinking?

You left out "Tall, dark and handsome...":yes:

Patrick

26th March 2007, 13:47

You left out "Tall, dark and handsome...":yes:

Tall, yes... one out of three aint bad...

Edbear

26th March 2007, 13:52

Tall, yes... one out of three aint bad...

I'd get three out of three if it was, "Average, greying, and 'once upon a time'..."

Patrick

26th March 2007, 14:06

<img src-"http://jobyone.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/060616-fat-cop.jpg">

Uh huh....

Nice Avitar... change the word officer to Dover though, then that would be apt and hillarious all in one...

Joni

26th March 2007, 14:09

Guy, lets keep this clean...
No abuse please... and keep it to topic :yes:
Yes people have different opinions - no need to resort to abusive crap!

:Playnice:

The Stranger

26th March 2007, 14:16

Toaster

26th March 2007, 14:44

Good one cowpoos.

Toaster

26th March 2007, 14:45

Guy, lets keep this clean...
No abuse please... and keep it to topic :yes:
Yes people have different opinions - no need to resort to abusive crap!

:Playnice:

I agree, well said...... (but what if I am slipping in the virtual super 14 ??!!)

Toaster

26th March 2007, 14:50

Uh huh...

Clean shaven, fit, healthy looking, tidy clothes... yep... we do look out of place.... what were we thinking?

Fit? dude, I met a lot of fat unfit cops when I was in the blue uniform.:gob:

Patrick

26th March 2007, 14:56

Sounds like I struck a nerve Spud. As for the actions of a few the same could be said about gang culture, not all of them are bad yet few of us have any respect for them as a group. Just like the pigs.

Gang culture... Very few, if any, are good. Organised crime sound familiar? Not organised do gooders...

Three cops do damage to a whole government department, but supposedly, according to the Gospel of SPB, "few of us have any respect for them as a group..."

Is that why Police poll in the top 5 of trusted professions year in and year out? (Admittedly, it slumped from 2nd or 3rd, quite likely due to traffic enforcement...) The vast majority see past the very few bad eggs, every year....

Patrick

26th March 2007, 14:57

Fit? dude, I met a lot of fat unfit cops when I was in the blue uniform.:gob:

We've met???????????:gob:

Toaster

26th March 2007, 14:58

We've met???????????:gob:

laughin' my ass off! Blinged. Keep up the good work.

spudchucka

26th March 2007, 15:32

spudchucka

26th March 2007, 15:50

Cos the world , and the nearest bar , are full of sanctimonious wankers, who would get their panties in a big knot at the sight of a cop having a drink.

Also because the sensitive stuff that cops deal with on a daily basis inevitably ends up being talked about over a few beers and shouldn't be overheard.

jrandom

26th March 2007, 16:01

that cop is ok lol

I feel that it is my sacred duty as a citizen to disseminate (http://www.badcopnews.com/updated-werribee-australia-police-officer-melissa-scannells-topless-photo-while-in-uniform-soon-to-become-internet-legacy-500au-reward-for-photograph.html) further exposition of these remarkable events.

spudchucka

26th March 2007, 16:23

at least I don't need a uniform to help me!

Its because you're beyond helping.

The Stranger

26th March 2007, 16:28

I feel that it is my sacred duty as a citizen to disseminate (http://www.badcopnews.com/updated-werribee-australia-police-officer-melissa-scannells-topless-photo-while-in-uniform-soon-to-become-internet-legacy-500au-reward-for-photograph.html) further exposition of these remarkable events.

FFS and there was a complaint about this?

scumdog

26th March 2007, 16:45

Whatever cocksmoker, at least I don't need a uniform to help me!

Have you been taking english lessons from Hitcher? You never used to know so many big words Dyna, I am impressed.

There was no argument to lose, specifically not with you, Cuntstubble. You're just a thick plod.

When I read this kinda clap-trap it gives me a warm fuzzy knowing the authors of such will never be a member of the Police:yes:

Of course there's nothing to stop ME stooping to THEIR level.......:innocent: :whistle:

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 17:22

When I read this kinda clap-trap it gives me a warm fuzzy knowing the authors of such will never be a member of the Police:yes:

Of course there's nothing to stop ME stooping to THEIR level.......:innocent: :whistle:

and just when we're all busy refuting and debating whether or not there is a "drinking culture" in the police who should walk in.........

Another scotch Scummy? don't mind if I do.......

mstriumph

26th March 2007, 17:27

Fit? dude, I met a lot of fat unfit cops when I was in the blue uniform.:gob: yeah - hafta admit ............

SixPackBack

26th March 2007, 18:31

The vast majority see past the very few bad eggs, every year....

Recent polls show you to be clearly ill informed. The Police have taken a hammering lately of the likes I cannot remember in living memory. The result is that people like myself who have always respected the pigs no longer do so. :shutup:

slowpoke

26th March 2007, 19:40

Hahahaha, what a bunch of gullible hipocrites you/we are, the media are loving you lot all the way to the bank. Go buy yourself another "No Idea" at "Snak ' n Save" and gorge yourself on the sensationalist, generalising bullshit they send your way....just do us the favour of not regurgitating it in our direction would ya?!
Respect the cops? I bloody do 'cos it is not a "robocop" generalised amalgam of police culture giving me a ticket if I've been speeding (I new the risk/odds and chose to speed anyway), or dealing with another family torn apart by drugs, or photographing bits of teenaged bodies ground into the roads, it's an individual bloke or woman doing a prick of a job that I wouldn't have the mental or emotional fortitude to do myself.
Treat people as you want to be treated yourself, I reckon. I wanna be treated as an individual so that's how I'll treat them. Sure there are mudguards (shiny on top and shitty underneath) in all shapes, forms and species in the police force......just as there are in every other walk of life. If you thought different you gotta wake up and step outside of your perfectly clean, perfectly presented, perfectly cultivated glasshouse with it's perfect pile of perfect stones ready for that perfect throw.
At the end of the day they are the cavalry that we hope will come running when we're in the poo, so if you can't say something nice just keep ya gob shut and support the 99% of the force who are trying to help out.

This has been another Reverend Rantalot sermon brought to you by the nice people at STFU (shut the fuck up) FM.

terbang

26th March 2007, 19:45

Jeez they are taking a beating at the moment with pickys of (certain) cops chocka blok into all and sundry (though their arses were blurred out) now in the hands of the media. I do feel sorry for average Joe bloggs cop as it is certainly disrepute upon their organisation that they probably don't deserve. They genuinely do appear to be trying to clean up their backyard, with various investigations and all. If they play it straight and remain open with the public, then they will retain my respect..

jrandom

26th March 2007, 20:01

FFS and there was a complaint about this?

In every corporation, and presumably in every police force, there's always some sour, ugly bitch in Human Resources that has it in for hot tarts. Boyfriend Cop's problem was forwarding the photos on to his mates without thinking about who they'd forward it on to.

Anyway, if this bird really was a nasty slapper, I'm afraid she rather got what she deserved. For the next ten or twenty years, every new job she gets, she'll be surrounded on her first day by co-workers looking that photo up and noticing that she's put on weight in the meantime.

scumdog

26th March 2007, 20:06

Recent polls show you to be clearly ill informed. The Police have taken a hammering lately of the likes I cannot remember in living memory. The result is that people like myself who have always respected the pigs no longer do so. :shutup:

Yeah? Like I care?

Like I can do anything to change the situation?

Pfft!

scumdog

26th March 2007, 20:10

and just when we're all busy refuting and debating whether or not there is a "drinking culture" in the police who should walk in.........

Another scotch Scummy? don't mind if I do.......

Drunk?
Not a show, just about to head out and cut the hedge when I posted that - hence why it was a very low key tactful post.

Gimme a drink and I'll say it like it REALLY is.

jrandom

26th March 2007, 20:10

I'd just like to put my hand up, here, and say that if I wasn't horribly busy and rather committed to my ongoing attempts to grow wealthy from the exploitation of technology, I'd be a cop.

In fact, if I manage a decent flog-off and cash-up at some point in the next decade that leaves me as a gentleman of independent means, I will certainly be considering a career in policing as a noble alternative to yachting and golf.

All you folk insulting our police force can, in my humble opinion, fuck off and die.

In the meantime, I have an extra percent worth of income tax that I'd be happy to pay to fund an expansion of policing. Why is nobody taking it off me?

Patrick

26th March 2007, 20:13

Recent polls show you to be clearly ill informed. The Police have taken a hammering lately of the likes I cannot remember in living memory. The result is that people like myself who have always respected the pigs no longer do so. :shutup:

You and the prison population... plus Dover and a few others on here... doesn't look like a majority descision here folks...

scumdog

26th March 2007, 20:22

You and the prison population... plus Dover and a few others on here... doesn't look like a majority descision here folks...

Meh, don't dis them TOO much -after all, if it wasn't for those above how the hell would you and I look so good?? eh? eh?

Roadrash

26th March 2007, 20:24

Patrick

26th March 2007, 20:25

Meh, don't dis them TOO much -after all, if it wasn't for those above how the hell would you and I look so good?? eh? eh?

Nah, not dissing em, await the next poll results, but as you said, what can we do about it? Same old same old for this fella.

Always gainfully employed... never too many a dull moment...

You would think he just lost his licence for excess demerits or something.... :shutup:

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 20:43

I think before you judge you should walk a mile in a cops shoes, as for Dover a person that miserable and self opinionated is probalby trying to compensate for something, Its the quite ones you gotta watch the noisy ones are always full of ****

Yeah, it must be my small cock, retarded intellect and terrible taste in motorcycles.

But thanks for your concern crotchrash.

scumdog

26th March 2007, 20:50

Nah, not dissing em, await the next poll results, but as you said, what can we do about it? Same old same old for this fella.

Always gainfully employed... never too many a dull moment...

You would think he just lost his licence for excess demerits or something.... :shutup:

Lost his licence?
No way, for person to behave THAT badly it must have been a whole lot more than that - like say a parking ticket or a shitty job or...

Patrick

26th March 2007, 20:54

Lost his licence?
No way, for person to behave THAT badly it must have been a whole lot more than that - like say a parking ticket or a shitty job or...

Dover got his first and only ticket a year ago, apparently, and look how one little measly ticket has affected him....

The_Dover

26th March 2007, 20:58

Dover got his first and only ticket a year ago, apparently, and look how one little measly ticket has affected him....

Actually it was about 10 months ago, didn't cost me a penny (other than a few bus fares) and hasn't at all affected my opinion of you and your donut munching mates.

I've always hated pigs. Not for any particular reason, but it sure seems to piss you ladies off.

SixPackBack

26th March 2007, 21:55

This is to easy, Bait is unnecessary...just throw a hook out:yes:

Patrick

26th March 2007, 22:02

This is to easy, Bait is unnecessary...just throw a hook out:yes:

Yep, got meself a bitching Dover... common as, but....

Patrick

26th March 2007, 22:05

Actually it was about 10 months ago, didn't cost me a penny (other than a few bus fares) and hasn't at all affected my opinion of you and your donut munching mates.

I've always hated pigs. Not for any particular reason, but it sure seems to piss you ladies off.

Meh... you think too highly of yourself... as I said before, change your avitar from "officer" to Dover... very "fitting"...

Who cares what you like or dislike, or why even...:zzzz:

Personally I think SPB and Dover are one and the same, always tag teaming, funny at times too... good on yas

xwhatsit

26th March 2007, 22:40

`Respect the Cops? WHY!' Well they've got my respect. Here's why: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=46831

The_Dover

27th March 2007, 05:59

Yep, got meself a bitching Dover... common as, but....

Like a cop who defends the force....

rapists, drunks and bigots alike...

Meh... you think too highly of yourself... as I said before, change your avitar from "officer" to Dover... very "fitting"...

Who cares what you like or dislike, or why even...:zzzz:

Personally I think SPB and Dover are one and the same, always tag teaming, funny at times too... good on yas

Nah, SPB is more like a mini Dover, but ginger. I don't believe we have ever "tag teamed" in the police force use of the phrase.

SixPackBack

27th March 2007, 07:00

`Respect the Cops? WHY!' Well they've got my respect. Here's why: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=46831

Big fucken deal. The problem with that son is that one day you will be following a cop at upto 130kmh from Warkworth to Orewa clearly seeing him smiling then waving you on[wtf?], and the next get stopped and ticketed at 112kmh on a straight road in the middle of no where.
Hypocrisy is the oinkers catch phrase.

The_Dover

27th March 2007, 07:18

`Respect the Cops? WHY!' Well they've got my respect. Here's why: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=46831

You think that is a positive thing? A cop letting you off for riding like a knob in the city, a careless knob with no idea of what speed you were doing?

Grahameeboy

27th March 2007, 07:28

You think that is a positive thing? A cop letting you off for riding like a knob in the city, a careless knob with no idea of what speed you were doing?

Hows the nappy changing going Ben??

The_Dover

27th March 2007, 07:42

Hows the nappy changing going Ben??

Dunno, ask Vicky.

I'm in charge of cuddles and silly songs.

Patrick

27th March 2007, 09:10

Like a cop who defends the force....

rapists, drunks and bigots alike...

None out of three... good work!

Macktheknife

27th March 2007, 11:43

Dunno, ask Vicky.

I'm in charge of cuddles and silly songs.

Good to see you working to your strengths there Ben.

scumdog

27th March 2007, 17:08

Big fucken deal. The problem with that son is that one day you will be following a cop at upto 130kmh from Warkworth to Orewa clearly seeing him smiling then waving you on[wtf?], and the next get stopped and ticketed at 112kmh on a straight road in the middle of no where.
Hypocrisy is the oinkers catch phrase.

Mehhh, like anybody cares????

Next thing my doctor will tell me to give up smoking as he lights up his cigar - bloody hypocrits are everywhere....:whocares:

Oh, and luckily the rest of KB is not judged on the antics of SPB and Dover like the Police is judged on Rickards, Schollum and Shipton.... otherwise it would be in a sad state of affairs eh?

Bloody trolls, they're even MORE everywhere than hypocrits....

SixPackBack

27th March 2007, 18:41

The_Dover

27th March 2007, 18:49

Oh, and luckily the rest of KB is not judged on the antics of SPB and Dover like the Police is judged on Rickards, Schollum and Shipton.... otherwise it would be in a sad state of affairs eh?

hey man, every gang bang I've partaken in has been entirely consensual.

RT527

27th March 2007, 19:20

hey man, every gang bang I've partaken in has been entirely consensual.

Usually Is when your own hand Is the main tool and requirement

scumdog

27th March 2007, 19:33

[quote=scumdog;991620]Oh, and luckily the rest of KB is not judged on the antics of SPB and Dover quote]

What antics?

Having the audacity to ask the online filth some rather pointed questions is not a crime scumdog. Get a grip pig.

Audacity? audacity? - I've seen more audacity from a tadpole in a plastic bag....

And the questions are as 'pointed' as one of your turds (at a guess of course!) and make less sense.:yes:

But keep trying, the Lord loves a tryer (can't speak for the real world though).

hey, keep the trolls coming eh - my tadpole has died so I need another distraction - you might not be as good as it but you're all I've got.

The_Dover

27th March 2007, 19:39

my tadpole has died so I need another distraction - you might not be as good as it but you're all I've got.

is that why you're always on here and not gangbanging yer bimbo like a good little pig?

scumdog

27th March 2007, 19:42

is that why you're always on here and not gangbanging yer bimbo like a good little pig?

Nah, had my wicked way with her this morning before heading out to deal with lifes low-impact people.

Now I'm bored and feel the urge to go troll-baiting.

Delerium

27th March 2007, 20:43

just some food for thought

http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/common-assault-pics-maybe-not-for-faint-hearted-vtu65685.html

I have only ever received two driving infringments, both deserved. One cop was an absolute champ, great to deal with and gave me the lightest penalty he could, after hearing all the facts and taking into account the whole situation. I realised and he knew that I was at fault but he used his discretion. failing to give way fine to me, I deserved it. The other cop was fairly neutral.

What I DO have a problem with is speed traps at ends of passing lanes, patrol cars driving past people tailgating, not indicating no head lights. I remember being on the northwester, from whenuapai to pt chev I saw 3 speed traps and a speed camera. Not revenue gatherin? gimmie a break. I also have a problem with lack of support and investigation into when my car got broken into. the second and third times I didnt bother reporting it. (I know many people that have come to this conclusion, hence why reported crime is reducing, while I suspect actual crime rates may be increasing) I just got told, here is a claim number, give that to your insurance company.

If im out going for a blat and I get pinged yeah fair one, ill take that, one of my infrigments was for speeding (in the slowest car iv ever driven, go figure) I didnt complain I knew what I was doing. When you get pinged for overtaking, say a truck for example, thats another story. the Heavy vehicle speed limit is now 90km/h, it takes a looooooooooooong road to overtake a truck doing that when you can only do 100km/h. In fact There are very few opportunities in the whole of NZ that will let you. The AA has done a good study on this. speed cameras at the bottom of a hill, come on guys, lets get realisitic, my speed is bound to increase somewhat. As long as im not doing a stupidly high speed, and its safe for the road, who cares.

Speed, and young people like myself with modified cars are easy targets to fill the quota, so thats what happens. More difficult things like indicating etc are not enforced as much, and really should be.

my 2c

spudchucka

28th March 2007, 08:53

What antics?

Having the audacity to ask the online filth some rather pointed questions is not a crime scumdog. Get a grip pig.

You have an unrealistic opinion of your own abilities as an interviewer, not to mention that elsewhere you've admitted that your "pointy" questions amount to nothing more than shit stirring.

Joni

28th March 2007, 09:08

So instead of a debate... yes a debate that has been done over and over again... this thread has turned into a fight... to tell you the truth I dont care who is right out of the 2 opposing groups in this thread... just keep it clean and on topic please.

This "conversation" has been done way too many times on KB, and still there has not been an end result that was not pd.

xwhatsit

28th March 2007, 22:00

SixPackBack

29th March 2007, 07:30

Grahameeboy

29th March 2007, 07:49

"The police should be above politics." (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10431193)

Another Police fuck-up. Restricting press freedom this time. Guess it beats raping teenagers!

What do you know about raping teenagers.............guess they must have let you out of the OAP's home then..............:shit:

spudchucka

29th March 2007, 07:51

You're getting more and more pathetic each day this goes on.

scumdog

29th March 2007, 08:52

"The police should be above politics." (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10431193)

Another Police fuck-up. Restricting press freedom this time. Guess it beats raping teenagers!

:zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

Time to joust at another windmill eh?!

Smorg

29th March 2007, 11:35

hey man, every gang bang I've partaken in has been entirely consensual.

did you ask the bottle?

SixPackBack

30th March 2007, 15:12

The sex is great in the force (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/070329/3/8qn.html)..............:bye:

scumdog

30th March 2007, 15:17

The sex is great in the force (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/070329/3/8qn.html)..............:bye:

How the hell would YOU know??

Been peering through windows or something.....??

Again?

SixPackBack

30th March 2007, 16:11

How the hell would YOU know??

Been peering through windows or something.....??

Again?

Cos everytime I read the paper, turn on the tellie or net for the last 4 months there is another Police rape story.

Matt Bleck

30th March 2007, 16:18

Well it appears the old adage "Fuck the Police" is no longer relevant... "Fucked by the Police" would be more fitting....

RT527

30th March 2007, 20:22

seems the latest allegation went something like this......
I got raped in the back seat of a patrol car 25 years ago officer, really mam well the officer taking you to the refuge center is on this report, would you care to look at some photos and identify him ?...ok..... , no cant see the one who did it on here...you cant identify him them ...no....

Or something along those lines ...heard tonite on the news that the investigation has been dropped.....

The_Dover

30th March 2007, 20:26

I got raped by the police.

50 demerits the bastards!

Patrick

30th March 2007, 23:36

The sex is great in the force (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/070329/3/8qn.html)..............:bye:

25 years ago... Uh huh... happens all the time, 25 years ago it seems...:zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

Ixion

30th March 2007, 23:44

I got raped by the police.

50 demerits the bastards!

Goodness. I've known many people get demerits from the cops for being lousy drivers. This is the first time I've heard of anyone getting them for being a lousy root.

scumdog

31st March 2007, 04:20

Cos everytime I read the paper, turn on the tellie or net for the last 4 months there is another Police rape story.

That's the sad part about having Alzhiemers - you keep thinking you've just heard of another new story......

SixPackBack

31st March 2007, 08:17

25 years ago... Uh huh... happens all the time, 25 years ago it seems...:zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

Its the reward system-rape a teen= get the top job.

That is a seriously fucked up system. A large number of the top brass must have turned a blind eye to the allegations over a 25 year period. A culture of silence indeed.

Grahameeboy

31st March 2007, 08:27

Cos everytime I read the paper, turn on the tellie or net for the last 4 months there is another Police rape story.

Ya don't believe everything you read in the papers do you?

Grahameeboy

31st March 2007, 08:31

Its the reward system-rape a teen= get the top job.

That is a seriously fucked up system. A large number of the top brass must have turned a blind eye to the allegations over a 25 year period. A culture of silence indeed.

Hey 1 pack....................rape is not just limited to members of the Police. Police Officers are part of society with good and bad.

The other thing is that if these guys are off duty when they commit offences then why should it be a Police Bashing thing.....

Delerium

31st March 2007, 08:37

Hey 1 pack....................rape is not just limited to members of the Police. Police Officers are part of society with good and bad.

The other thing is that if these guys are off duty when they commit offences then why should it be a Police Bashing thing.....

Same as the military (I studied this sort of thing at uni) People still see you representing that part of society even when out of uniform to some extent. Your behaviour STILL needs to be above reporach. This is why military persons can still be charged for things like bringing their service into disrepute outside of working hours. I wont get into any other part of the arguments, but thats part of the reason their is such concern over these peoples behaviour even if it was outside of uniformed hours.

SixPackBack

31st March 2007, 10:04

Hey 1 pack....................rape is not just limited to members of the Police. Police Officers are part of society with good and bad

That's a tired old chestnut. One of the forces catch phrases for when good cops go bad, and it entirely inappropriate.

Motorcycle groups/gangs contain 'good and bad'. Perhaps we should contract policing duties to them?

scumdog

31st March 2007, 11:25

That's a tired old chestnut. One of the forces catch phrases for when good cops go bad, and it entirely inappropriate.

Motorcycle groups contain 'good and bad'. Perhaps we should contract policing duties to them?

"We'' already do!:yes: :laugh: :lol: :killingme :rofl:

Patrick

31st March 2007, 11:29

SixPackBack

31st March 2007, 13:25

Which is why he got charged... which is why his career is fucked... Yep, a culture of silence... go figure...

And it took 25 years for the police to complete this process, suggesting either corruption or incompetence. Mean while the fucker has battled his way to the top, presumably while his colleague's looked the other way.

Patrick

31st March 2007, 15:15

And it took 25 years for the police to complete this process, suggesting either corruption or incompetence. Mean while the fucker has battled his way to the top, presumably while his colleague's looked the other way.

Or suggesting a lack of evidence perhaps?

Yep, his appointment process discussed the possible skeletons in his cupboard and the liklihood of it coming crashing down, but hey, he was to be the first Maori Commissioner.

SixPackBack

31st March 2007, 16:34

Or suggesting a lack of evidence perhaps?

Yep, his appointment process discussed the possible skeletons in his cupboard and the liklihood of it coming crashing down, but hey, he was to be the first Maori Commissioner.

Who ever steps into such a senior police role should be absolutely squeaky clean. Are you suggesting that they knew about the rape allegations but trusted his story that it was consensual?

The best candidate for the job was a person who admitted to group sex with a 16 year old? Not cool.

Stinks of political expediency.

Patrick

31st March 2007, 17:28

Who ever steps into such a senior police role should be absolutely squeaky clean. Are you suggesting that they knew about the rape allegations but trusted his story that it was consensual?

The best candidate for the job was a person who admitted to group sex with a 16 year old? Not cool.

Stinks of political expediency.

Absolutely squeaky clean... YEP... for sure...

Rape allegation that went nowhere..yep, they knew... and yep, they trusted his allegation that it was consentual, but what they didn't like was the possibility that the consent issue might come back and bite him, as it did...

Don't think he actually took part in group sex with a 16 year old, that was the other 2, or am I wrong?

Stinks of Political expediency? Dunno... PC perhaps?

scumdog

1st April 2007, 13:57

Who ever steps into such a senior police role should be absolutely squeaky clean. Are you suggesting that they knew about the rape allegations but trusted his story that it was consensual?

The best candidate for the job was a person who admitted to group sex with a 16 year old? Not cool.

Stinks of political expediency.

Fair call about the 'political expediency' but to tar ALL cops as the same because of Rickards et al is kinda a tad harsh.

Like it would be if I caught an idiot on a Gixxer doing stupid stuff and then labelled ALL Suzuki riders as idiots........

Edbear

1st April 2007, 14:57

and then labelled ALL Suzuki riders as idiots........

Not me!!! Though the Missus may think so at times...:yes:

Still wuvs me but...:sunny:

SixPackBack

1st April 2007, 16:03

Fair call about the 'political expediency' but to tar ALL cops as the same because of Rickards et al is kinda a tad harsh.

Like it would be if I caught an idiot on a Gixxer doing stupid stuff and then labelled ALL Suzuki riders as idiots........

Maybe Scummy. Its not just Rickards that causes the problems tho'
Consider the mixed messages:

Follow a copper from Warkworth to Orewa, he accelerates to up to 130 in the wet and I can see him smiling in his rear mirror as I keep up, he waves good by at Orewa. Shortly after I get done for 111 on a straight road, brilliant sunshine not a soul around.

Get done at 147 [not complaining, my own fault] "hilton" takes my licence. A few months later I witness "hilton" riding at well over 100 in a 50 zone, tearing up and down the road like a fucking maniac.

My wife has a lot to do with the Police in her job, I hear plenty of 'drinking' stories that make my blood boil.

The N.Z Police force has a long way to go, a long way. Speeding tickets are related to quotas and revenue collection and make up a major part of road Policing, yet fucktards pull out on Motorcyclists everyday and apart from "watch out for motorcyclists" there is no drive to ticket this abhorrent crime that kills many of us every year.
Just how many tickets are given out each year for pulling out?

The system is totally fucked and should be privatised as should councils and many other Government departments. Laws are made and enforced to suit ministers and help build their power base, and that Scummy is the biggest crime of all.

scumdog

1st April 2007, 16:24

[[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]The N.Z Police force has a long way to go, a long way. Speeding tickets are related to quotas and revenue collection and make up a major part of road Policing,

Not true this year - no longer record tickets or even traffic time on time sheets, can't tell you how many tickets I've written out this last 8-10 months (not many) or how many for speed yet nobody has taken me to task about my lack of supposed 'quota'.

But never let facts ruin urban myth and get in the way of a good story.......

SixPackBack

1st April 2007, 16:59

Not true this year - no longer record tickets or even traffic time on time sheets, can't tell you how many tickets I've written out this last 8-10 months (not many) or how many for speed yet nobody has taken me to task about my lack of supposed 'quota'.

But never let facts ruin urban myth and get in the way of a good story.......

So we can assume up until 2007 that my 'story' that has been so vehemently denied in the past [by both the pollies and to police brass] is correct.

That is good news and a step in the right direction.

marty

1st April 2007, 17:52

, patrol cars driving past people tailgating,

so is a car following another at 100km/h at say, 30 metres, too close?

Grahameeboy

1st April 2007, 17:56

The General Duties side of the New Zealand Police is pretty good, we are swamped with work and at times drowning in it due to staffing and resources but we definatley have very good investigators and frontline officers and we have a good resolution rate of crime which has steadily improved since 01-03.

The traffic side of Police is a government directive of madnatory SAP hours. If someone punches you in the head you dont blame their arm you blame the head which is controlling the arm.

You can go on at the traffic Police all you like but its not going to change anything because it is a government directive. You can say the cops should revolt against these hard policies but we arent allowed to. It's written into law that we cant protest and we are one of the only police forces in the world where we are not consulted on Police directives by government. Its elected office holders who often have limited or no Police experience who make the calls on what Police and other government agencies do.

As far as the rape allegations, I dont think you can tar the whole Police Force with the dirty rape brush. Some of these offences that were alleged to happen occured when i was about 6 years old, I have never seen or heard of this "sick rape culture" till the media brought it out.

I and all of the cops i know are disgusted by these mens behaviour and how it has tarred us all. This is why you get the reaction you do from serving officers because they hate being related to something they have never seen or participated in.

I know we have had a thrashing in the media but dont belive everything you read or see, a lot of it is rubbish. I do know they will twist things that you read and see from being at a jobs where the media was present and knew what really occured and then seeing how they represented in on TV was sensational, contrived and misleading.

Good post matey.....................

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 01:58

The system is totally fucked and should be privatised as should councils and many other Government departments. [/FONT]

Privatisation? You woldn't know you were born if privatisation came in.

110+ and you would get a ticket EVERY TIME, nil, nada, none, zilch discretion EVER.

And every other offence would be the same - and they would target the $$$$ offences, not the low $ 'safety' ones.

i.e. Why waste time with a $80 speeding ticket when issuing $200 tickets for obscured number plates makes more money (just have a look how many plates are dirty or obscured by bull-bars, tow-bars etc).

SixPackBack

2nd April 2007, 07:01

Privatisation? You woldn't know you were born if privatisation came in.

110+ and you would get a ticket EVERY TIME, nil, nada, none, zilch discretion EVER.

And every other offence would be the same - and they would target the $$$$ offences, not the low $ 'safety' ones.

i.e. Why waste time with a $80 speeding ticket when issuing $200 tickets for obscured number plates makes more money (just have a look how many plates are dirty or obscured by bull-bars, tow-bars etc).

Policing should not be about 'revenue collection'. If the directive was to keep solve crimes instead of targeting mobile cash cows resources could be taken away from highway patrol and given to the real coppers. Hell! they could clean up South Auckland before it becomes a war zone.
If councils were privatised a simple building permit could be dealt with within a week instead of disappearing into a black hole for months.
Bring back Rogernomics, privatise the fucken lot.

spudchucka

2nd April 2007, 07:02

The system is totally fucked and should be privatised

Great idea, that way we'd be able to negotiate a commission on all tickets issued, you know, sort of like a performance incentive. It'd be a bigger company than Telecom and probably more corrupt too. Who would be CEO?

SixPackBack

2nd April 2007, 07:15

Great idea, that way we'd be able to negotiate a commission on all tickets issued, you know, sort of like a performance incentive. It'd be a bigger company than Telecom and probably more corrupt too. Who would be CEO?

What more bent than the current system that gave a sexual predator the top job, that knew exactly the potential implications of its actions but continued anyway?
The present system is corrupt spud, it needs releasing from the pollies and some of your fucked up top brass.

spudchucka

2nd April 2007, 07:18

Its not perfect, no one says it is but its a hell of a lot better than it was in the 80's. Privatising the police would fuck things beyond belief, getting the politicians noses out of the day to day running of the police would be a welcome change.

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 08:02

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 09:38

How contradictory.

Resolution rates are improving but we need to get on top of the problems that are swamping this country?

What crimes are being resolved? Who broke the speed limit?

Nice one Dyna, internal police propaganda. Secret squirrel bullshit.

Mr Merde

2nd April 2007, 09:46

1. ...... We also need to be able to do our jobs and stop having political interference.

I would have no problem with this but unfortunately it is a pipe dream to think that it would ever happen.

When senior positions are a political appointment there is a filter down effect.

When the government (any government) needs to distract the populace, they bring up the always sensitive subject of crime.

When the number of people employed to control the population internally far exceed the number of of persons charged with defending the country from foriegn threats, there is a problem.

Whilst NZ is not there yet it is close. check out http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/at-a-glance/personnel-composition.htm

11,000 members of the total armed forces and 8,000 plus police

My sympathies are with those of you who just wish to get on with a job but even in Roman times the police force of the time the Praetorian Guard were ruled by their political masters.

As an aside.

Through my interset in history I find it very interesting that all the so called great civilisations have waned as the forces employed to control their populations have waxed.

Are we ready foir the collapse?

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 10:40

Resolution rates are vastly improving however crime is also on the rise. i.e we are catching more crims but there are more crims around.

Yeah, all those pesky speeders eh?

spudchucka

2nd April 2007, 10:52

Nope, you have a bit of a closed mind.

Ya think?

I don't know why you're wasting your time on that idiot.

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 11:25

Ya think?

I don't know why you're wasting your time on that idiot.

ha ha, if your attitude is representative of the good cops then I can see why the force is so fucked!

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 11:27

What statistics are you using to justify this quote?

If GD is so swamped then why are there so many traffic officers?

Like in the days of MOT there WEREN'T so many traffic officers???????:gob:

Based on your above comment you would be ecstatic if the traffic cops dressed in a different uniform, drove cars painted in another colour and only did traffic - that way you could see that 'real' cops weren't being 'wasted' doing traffic stuff.

Kinda like re-inventing the wheel eh? good one!!!

And then problem of the GDB being swamped would be solved how????? :wait:

Nice troll sunshine, it WAS a troll? right? right??

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 11:29

Nope, you have a bit of a closed mind.

Why? because I disaprove of cops gangbanging teenagers and breaking laws they are paid to uphold?

or because I believe that your "Crime Resolution" statistics are bullshit and that a speeding ticket is probably recorded as "resolved crime".

Pull the other one, the pigs aren't over worked or lacking resources.

Most of them are just lazy and so thick they would struggle to solve a game of Cluedo.

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 11:29

ha ha, if your attitude is representative of the good cops then I can see why the force is so fucked!

Yup - and we're just waiting for you to become a politician and fix the problem.

(Of course if you did you'ld have to find another windmill to joust at on KB)

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 11:31

Pull the other one, the pigs aren't over worked or lacking resources.

Most of them are just lazy and so thick they would struggle to solve a game of Cluedo.

And you fine members of the public still pay us!!
Mwhahahaahaha!!!:Punk:

Of course it's easy to stand outside the cage and poke a stick knowing you are incapable of getting into the cage and fixing the 'problem'

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 11:39

Like in the days of MOT there WEREN'T so many traffic officers???????:gob:

Based on your above comment you would be ecstatic if the traffic cops dressed in a different uniform, drove cars painted in another colour and only did traffic - that way you could see that 'real' cops weren't being 'wasted' doing traffic stuff.

Kinda like re-inventing the wheel eh? good one!!!

And then problem of the GDB being swamped would be solved how????? :wait:

Nice troll sunshine, it WAS a troll? right? right??

Actually Mr Dog, it was not a troll.

But I fail to see why a 5km stretch of rural SH2 needs 3 HP's on a Sunday afternoon.

Riding between Auckland and Taupo yesterday, via Paeroa, Waihi, Tauranga and Rotorua I saw probably 8 or 9 HP cars and one GD.

Do crim's get sunday off work?

I have never seen police "walking the beat" in NZ. Must be too much like hard work when they can sit in the station house or drive round in big gas guzzling holdens.

Replace Holdens with Pigs, make the fuckers walk.

Haven't you ever watched "The Bill"?

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 11:46

Actually Mr Dog, it was not a troll.

But I fail to see why a 5km stretch of rural SH2 needs 3 HP's on a Sunday afternoon.

Riding between Auckland and Taupo yesterday, via Paeroa, Waihi, Tauranga and Rotorua I saw probably 8 or 9 HP cars and one GD.

Do crim's get sunday off work?

I have never seen police "walking the beat" in NZ. Must be too much like hard work when they can sit in the station house or drive round in big gas guzzling holdens.

Replace Holdens with Pigs, make the fuckers walk.

Haven't you ever watched "The Bill"?

And all the cars you saw were ONLY doing that stretch of road - and the GDB was doing traffic and all the yellow and blue cars were not being used by GDB? (happens a lot down here).

Walking the beat? They have 'beat' sections in the cities doing just that.

Use to do it myself when we were fully manned up (we achieved that for two weeks this year - can't remember what year it was when we last had a complete compliment of staff.)

EDIT:Our total town diameter is only 4.5km from edge-to-edge, our area is over 75km in diameter from edge to edge - hence we don't get a lot of time to do the beat - cars we got brand new last week already have 2,500km+kays on them, the 'old' (3 years old from memory) ones had 215,000+ on them when handed in.

You should be climbing into the policians about all the cops deployed overseas at great expense - the Solomons etc

But at least THEY won't give you a ticket so I guess you're happy with that situation.

And I HAVE watched The Bill - and Ren and Stimpy and other fantasy shows too.

You REALLY do have no idea, do you???

GIXser

2nd April 2007, 11:53

Ahh... good.... finally seen the error of your ways... I feel much better now that you have been educated. Think off the children next time!:love:

hmmm Patrick,, i guess you have never broken the speedlimit. never done 53 in a 50, never gone 35 past a school bus/school.
ofcourse , you probably always paid your taxes on time, and say please and thank you.

whilst i do not condone speeding,(depends on the situation) its a fact that everyone has exceeded the speed limit some place or time.:yes:

Ixion

2nd April 2007, 11:57

Like in the days of MOT there WEREN'T so many traffic officers???????:gob:

Based on your above comment you would be ecstatic if the traffic cops dressed in a different uniform, drove cars painted in another colour and only did traffic - that way you could see that 'real' cops weren't being 'wasted' doing traffic stuff.

Kinda like re-inventing the wheel eh? good one!!!

And then problem of the GDB being swamped would be solved how????? :wait:

Yes. I think it would be a good idea. At present the public perceive a great deal of money going into the police force , despite which they are constantly told that the police are undermanned to the point where great sections of criminal activity have effectively been decriminalised. Presumably (it is the only presumption we can make) all that extra money is going into traffic.

At least if it was a separate force we would know where the money was going, or not going.

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 11:58

Haha dont throw a tantrum man...you dont really know what your talking about :kick:

You think that's a tantrum? I bet mummy sends you to bed with no tea for even raising your voice eh?

I don't think you really know what you're talking about either, you blindly defend your employer when they are ineffective. Are you hoping it will get you a promotion or something?

And all the cars you saw were ONLY doing that stretch of road - and the GDB was doing traffic and all the yellow and blue cars were not being used by GDB? (happens a lot down here).

Walking the beat? They have 'beat' sections in the cities doing just that.

Use to do it myself when we were fully manned up (we achieved that for two weeks this year - can't remember what year it was when we last had a complete compliment of staff.)

You should be climbing into the policians about all the cops deployed overseas at great expense - the Solomons etc

But at least THEY won't give you a ticket so I guess you're happy with that situation.

And I HAVE watched The Bill - and Ren and Stimpy and other fantasy shows too.

Firstly scummy, tickets don't actually bother me that much as I have only ever had one, my opinions on the pigs are nothing to do with my personal experience as a biker. I'm smart enough to "ride to the conditions" and "when they change" I reduce my speed, capisce?

I agree with you about deploying resource overseas, not our problem why try and fix it when we have enough of our own?

As for "beats" in cities, perhaps Dyna the public relations officer for Auckland region, could advise us as to where they are in his fine city?

It's not downtown (other than a few controlling the drunks at the Viaduct on party nights) and it's not in the ghetto where the crims are breeding.

Where are these mythical "beats"?

As for politics, fuck that, I dont think the world is ready for it.

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 12:00

Yes. I think it would be a good idea. At present the public perceive a great deal of money going into the police force , despite which they are constantly told that the police are undermanned to the point where great sections of criminal activity have effectively been decriminalised. Presumably (it is the only presumption we can make) all that extra money is going into traffic.

At least if it was a separate force we would know where the money was going, or not going.

I agree, make them wear pink.

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 12:03

As for politics, fuck that, I dont think the world is ready for it.

So how ARE you going to fix the 'problem' - apart from bleating on KB????

Join the Police?:wait:

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 12:12

So how ARE you going to fix the 'problem' - apart from bleating on KB????

Join the Police?:wait:

No. Certainly not. I have an education.

Oh yeah, and

1. I don't agree with being paid to enforce rules that I break myself.
2. They don't pay enough
3. I'd have to work with cocks like Dyna
4. They don't pay enough
5. The temptation to beat the shit out of some of your customers would be too much for me. I admire some of your guys restraint in that regard, but wish some of you had less.
6. They wont take me because of some petty convictions when I was a youngster.

You can sit and try and pass the buck by saying "don't like it then you do it" but in reality it is not a solution.

There are plenty of people that want to be pigs, there are plenty of people that walk away from being pigs because of the bureacracy and bullshit.

Funnily enough it's the same bureacracy and bullshit the rest of the general public have an issue with.

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 12:19

No. Certainly not. I have an education.

Oh yeah, and

1. I don't agree with being paid to enforce rules that I break myself.
2. They don't pay enough
3. I'd have to work with cocks like Dyna
4. They don't pay enough
5. The temptation to beat the shit out of some of your customers would be too much for me. I admire some of your guys restraint in that regard, but wish some of you had less.
6. They wont take me because of some petty convictions when I was a youngster.

You can sit and try and pass the buck by saying "don't like it then you do it" but in reality it is not a solution.

There are plenty of people that want to be pigs, there are plenty of people that walk away from being pigs because of the bureacracy and bullshit.

Funnily enough it's the same bureacracy and bullshit the rest of the general public have an issue with.

No.6 blew it - easy to stand behind a burnt bridge and say you can't help.

I'm getting bored now, time to fang off at 70 through the 50 area, jump in my GDB car and start firing off speeding tickets like lollies in a lolly scramble.....

mstriumph

2nd April 2007, 12:29

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 12:34

I'm getting bored now, time to fang off at 70 through the 50 area, jump in my GDB car and start firing off speeding tickets like lollies in a lolly scramble.....

The problem is Scummy, that the perception is not that way without reason.

Ever wondered how stereotypes are formed?

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 12:39

ALL this thread really shows is that there are entrenched perceptions out there that the police are venal and/or wrongly directed, idle and uncaring.

These perceptions may be far from the truth - but, if it is what people believe then the police have as big a problem as they would if they were true ..........

Unless something can be done to show the police as partners with the public in preventing the problem of real crime** and not just 'part of the problem' which is how they seem to be currently viewed then the 'bad' cops will go on operating under the "give a dog a bad name" principle and the 'good' cops will continue to become disheartened and increasingly cynical

.......... sad, innit..... anyone got any bright ideas on how to fix it?

**[no - i DON'T include ticketing a biker for going 10k over the limit on an otherwise totally empty road in good conditions as 'real crime'.... not that it's ever happened to me - just an example, you understand]

True - if the police had 'buried' these latest sex type complaints that the media had levelled against police (instead of the individuals concerned) we wouldn't be having some of the present problems - but that is not the way to do things eh.

Now we have the public having a real negative perception of the morals of ALL police
And it's backfiring on the public already as some potential sexual offence victims are now unwilling to come forwards because of "those sex charges against the police, I mean,how do I know I can trust them and they won't do something to me"

Nice one media, ya REALLY helped out both parties here eh?

scumdog

2nd April 2007, 12:42

The problem is Scummy, that the perception is not that way without reason.

Ever wondered how stereotypes are formed?

By rabid anti-police type whinging ticket recipients posting on KB??:innocent:

mstriumph

2nd April 2007, 14:48

it'd be great to see a few more on horseback - they do that here in Perth from time to time ......... s'excellent public relations apart from anything else ....

Ixion

2nd April 2007, 15:02

Yith. But even better - WHY do not the cops use bike cops for other-than-traffic departments ?

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 15:28

If you think that cops should get out of their "gas guzzling" holdens and walk more your probably forgetting that the moment you take cops out of a car they have an extremely limited area that they can respond to in good time.

When a burglar breaks into your house and you call the Police and they say they will be there in an hour cause they are on foot you will see my point.

Also Downtown Police Station does a lot more than controlling a few drunks.

I didn't say all of them, but a much increased presence on the streets is required, not just downtown or newmarket, the streets. Mind you, I've never seen a plod in newmarket and I lived and worked there for years.

If a cop made it in an hour on foot when we were burgled I'd have been delighted.

It would be considerably quicker than the week it took in his Holden. Especially given the cop shop was about 500 yards away.

Squeak the Rat

2nd April 2007, 16:35

We had a discussion at the lunchroom today about cops with a group of about 12. There were three distinct groups of people:

a) the people who think the cops are ok - they have a few issues like staffing, PR, and the odd bad egg but over all things are ok.
These were the normal run of the mill people (ie mr and mrs jones with 2.5 kids running the rat race).

b) the people who didn't respect the organisation
The following personality types made up the b's: free-spirited, anti-authoritarian, crims, or people who had some negative run-in at some stage.

c) people who really respect and admire the cops, and say they would like to have been a cop.
These people all expressed how cool it would be to be able to bash people, have high speed pursuits, and well, bash people.

This survey was brought to you buy kolmar brunton and the letter J.

davereid

2nd April 2007, 17:16

c) people who really respect and admire the cops, and say they would like to have been a cop.
These people all expressed how cool it would be to be able to bash people, have high speed pursuits, and well, bash people.

This survey was brought to you buy kolmar brunton and the letter J.

Thats' well known - Psycologists are very aware that people with problems with the way they deal with power gravitate towards policing.

Its no co-incidence that schollum and his pals like to put the ladies in handcuffs before they bonk 'em.

It takes a certain type of personality to actually WANT to exercise control over other people, and people with that particular personality commonly seek jobs like the Police.

:scooter:

Delerium

2nd April 2007, 17:55

haha dont get upset...

Downtown does walk the beat, there is also a beat station at Newmarket.

You may of never seen them but that doesnt mean they dont walk it, were just a bit thin on numbers.

If you think that cops should get out of their "gas guzzling" holdens and walk more your probably forgetting that the moment you take cops out of a car they have an extremely limited area that they can respond to in good time.

When a burglar breaks into your house and you call the Police and they say they will be there in an hour cause they are on foot you will see my point.

Also Downtown Police Station does a lot more than controlling a few drunks.

be there in an hour? where is that, can I move there? I get a here is a claim number for your insurance for vehcile break ins. house break ins are more like a few days. One must remember that the police is like everywhere else, there are people dedicated to it and some that are incompitent/corrupt. same as every where.

SixPackBack

2nd April 2007, 19:00

So how ARE you going to fix the 'problem' - apart from bleating on KB????

Join the Police?:wait:

Please Mr Dover join the Police:Punk:

The_Dover

2nd April 2007, 19:13

Please Mr Dover join the Police:Punk:

Just how cheap is the subsidised bar??

then we'll get a proper drinking culture in the pigs..

SixPackBack

2nd April 2007, 19:38

Just how cheap is the subsidised bar??

then we'll get a proper drinking culture in the pigs..

And the entrenched coppers can teach you all about gang bangs.

scumdog

3rd April 2007, 00:04

Just how cheap is the subsidised bar??

then we'll get a proper drinking culture in the pigs..

Sorry dude, there are less and less cop-shops with their own bars - the faceless management don't approve of them and think they are inappropriate for a police station yadda yadda yadda.......

Judging by that attitude it seems they would rather have cops going to public bars to have their after-work drinks. (or going to bike rallies??:innocent: )

scumdog

3rd April 2007, 00:05

And the entrenched coppers can teach you all about gang bangs.

Like he doesn't already know??

SixPackBack

3rd April 2007, 06:24

Like he doesn't already know??

Maybe. Dover has never had the access to young pussy the police have, you guys are freaken experts.

scumdog

3rd April 2007, 08:43

Maybe. Dover has never had the access to young pussy the police have, you guys are freaken experts.

It's the uniform man - chicks dig a man in uniform.:yes:

marty

3rd April 2007, 08:47

Just how cheap is the subsidised bar??

then we'll get a proper drinking culture in the pigs..

you'd have to try fucking hard at $2/pint to beat some of the antics i've 'seen'.........

could be worth a crack though

marty

3rd April 2007, 08:47

although the price of a pint could have gone up by now.

marty

3rd April 2007, 08:50

Maybe. Dover has never had the access to young pussy the police have, you guys are freaken experts.

why do you think cops like walking through night clubs so much?

Ixion

3rd April 2007, 16:55

True - if the police had 'buried' these latest sex type complaints that the media had levelled against police (instead of the individuals concerned) we wouldn't be having some of the present problems - but that is not the way to do things eh.

Now we have the public having a real negative perception of the morals of ALL police
And it's backfiring on the public already as some potential sexual offence victims are now unwilling to come forwards because of "those sex charges against the police, I mean,how do I know I can trust them and they won't do something to me"

Nice one media, ya REALLY helped out both parties here eh?

Garggh. I just spent a not inconsiderable portion of my remaining span in this Vale of Tears reading the Report (y know , THE report, the one released today)

I want a medal and a stiff drink . Several stiff drinks

What a turgid dreary PC storm in a beige teacup.

In 25 years , out of a force of some 9000 people, a large proportion male, they managed to find a grand total of 313 complaints. Not all of which stood up to scrutiny.

I want to lay a complaint. Fraudulent abstraction of life.

Patrick

3rd April 2007, 17:22

hmmm Patrick,, i guess you have never broken the speedlimit. never done 53 in a 50, never gone 35 past a school bus/school.
ofcourse , you probably always paid your taxes on time, and say please and thank you.

whilst i do not condone speeding,(depends on the situation) its a fact that everyone has exceeded the speed limit some place or time.:yes:

Yes I have and yes I do, thank you...

Difference is, when I get a ticket, I don't whinge about it. My fault, my problem, end of story. I don't get bent out of shape about it like the Dovers on here. Life mysteriously goes on.....

kiwifruit

3rd April 2007, 17:31

Yes I have and yes I do

Admitting guilt
Cuff him boys

The_Dover

3rd April 2007, 17:55

I don't get bent out of shape about it like the Dovers on here. Life mysteriously goes on.....

You're a fuckin idiot aren't you Pat?

You can't seem to grasp that one ticket in 10 years is not my motivation for thinking that the pigs are a bunch of useless dicks. I think you need to build a bridge.

Patrick

3rd April 2007, 18:05

You're a fuckin idiot aren't you Pat?

You can't seem to grasp that one ticket in 10 years is not my motivation for thinking that the pigs are a bunch of useless dicks. I think you need to build a bridge.

Oh yeah, I forgot... "a few minor convictions..." but you keep harping on about the one ticket... get over it, it was sooooooooo last year, remember?

My bridge is rock solid... yours is the problem... Rebuild it.

Ixion

3rd April 2007, 18:16

Will you two stop squabbling. I guess Dover has some excuse since I don't suppose he's getting any yet.

returning to THE REPORT.

I strongly disagree with this bit

Dual standards with respect to on-duty and off-duty behaviour
7.19 It seems that many police forces struggle with the issue of dual standards with respect to appropriate on-duty and off-duty behaviour. Officers frequently attempt to draw a very clear line between the two, and argue that what an individual does off duty, in terms of sexual behaviour or other moral issues, is no business of the police management. Professor Bayley told me that in America a sworn police officer is a police officer at all times, and his or her behaviour should always be able to withstand public scrutiny.(889) (http://www.cipc.govt.nz/cipc.nsf/wpg_URL/Agency-Commission-of-Inquiry-into-Police-Conduct-7-Police-Attitudes-to-Investigations-and-Disclosure-of-Wrongdoing?OpenDocument#889) This principle also applies in other parts of the State sector in New Zealand.(890) (http://www.cipc.govt.nz/cipc.nsf/wpg_URL/Agency-Commission-of-Inquiry-into-Police-Conduct-7-Police-Attitudes-to-Investigations-and-Disclosure-of-Wrongdoing?OpenDocument#890)
Application of this philosophy may be seen to curtail the freedom of police
officers to engage in activities that are legal but, if widely known, would bring the police into disrepute; however, in my view that is part of the price police officers pay in their choice of career.

I reckon that a cop's entitled to a personal life same as anyone else.

SixPackBack

3rd April 2007, 18:53

Will you two stop squabbling. I guess Dover has some excuse since I don't suppose he's getting any yet.

returning to THE REPORT.

I strongly disagree with this bit

I reckon that a cop's entitled to a personal life same as anyone else.

Like hell. Go back a few posts and look at my bitch about getting a ticket for 147kmh and then seeing the same copper tearing up and down a surban area [50kmh] doing wheelie's and well over 100kmh.
If you think that sort of behaviour is acceptable your certifiable.

Police behaviour needs to be beyond reproach at ALL times.

The_Dover

3rd April 2007, 19:09

Swoop

3rd April 2007, 20:13

Is the price of the report correct???

THREE million?

MisterD

3rd April 2007, 20:40

I reckon that a cop's entitled to a personal life same as anyone else.

Especially if they want to discipline a copper for arresting a tagger whilst off-duty. Can anyone say "double standards"?

Whatever Helen's buddys cooked up in this report, I'd still trust a waay higher percentage of coppers than polifuckinticians.

marty

3rd April 2007, 20:51

drunk guy with a car full of kids - he's consuming straight whiskey while driving, bouncing off cars parked on the roadside. off duty cop sees him. next time the guy stops (crashed into the back of a truck - trying to untangle and drive away again) off duty cop (with his own kids in his car) ID's himself, restrains drunk, gets injured in ensuing fight. drunk guys kids turned out have been kidnapped and he was on his way to the river to drive into (note subsequently found at his home address and e-mail to mother of kids).

should off-duty cop have intervened? a ministerial complaint (that's ABOVE a PCA) that took 3 years to complete found ...................................

peasea

3rd April 2007, 20:54

[QUOTE=

Whatever Helen's buddys cooked up in this report, I'd still trust a waay higher percentage of coppers than polifuckinticians.[/QUOTE]

And oddly enough the 'polys' are the only people that can garner a general election vote. Never mind July 4th, or even February 6th, give some serious consideration to July 14th and break out your knitting.

SixPackBack

3rd April 2007, 21:02

Is the price of the report correct???

THREE million?

You would expect the proof reader was older than 14 for that amount of cash.<_<

Ixion

3rd April 2007, 23:04

spudchucka

4th April 2007, 06:13

Sigh. You didn't actually read what the Beazley bint wrote did you

His silence since the report was released suggests that he's either a very slow reader, his comprehension sucks or that the report didn't provide him with the opportunities that he thought it was going to.

SixPackBack

4th April 2007, 06:34

"A self-serving drunken bunch of rapists that protect their own at all costs"

Corruption.

spudchucka

4th April 2007, 06:42

"A self-serving drunken bunch of rapists that protect their own at all costs"

Speaking about the few individuals that did that, correct.

Speaking about the other 19,778 employees that served over the 25 years covered by the report, wrong.

Edit:
Your quotation marks suggest that you have quoted direct from the report, or are you just quoting your own rhetoric?

If you can't be bothered reading the whole report you can go here and read some of the positive factors identified by the enquiry.
http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2007/inquiry-into-police-conduct/positive-commentary.html

SixPackBack

4th April 2007, 06:52

Speaking about the few individuals that did that, correct.

Speaking about the other 19,778 employees that served over the 25 years covered by the report, wrong.

19,778 employees will still put their police mates before the general public. A 'veil of silence' will descend if questioned over a fellow officers behaviour. Complaining about corrupt behaviour is a waste of time. That is one very sick department, the pigs know, the government knows and thankfully the general public knows it.

Wasting your time sticking up for your mates goes a long way towards painting you as the typical bent stereotype.

Say sorry and we'll move on.

spudchucka

4th April 2007, 07:36

Thankfully the majority of the public don't have your attitude and closed mind. If they did the commission of enquiry would have been a total waste of time and the police might just as well have stayed as they were in the 80's.

Max Preload

4th April 2007, 08:39

When I was at school we were taught how to cross the road properly and than it was our responsibility, as pedestrians, to do so safely. After all, the road is the domain of vehicles - we don't see pedestrians being blamed when a car hits them while driving on the footpath.

Ixion

4th April 2007, 08:46

Maurice has now read THE REPORT. He wants to know how to join up. He reckons he'll fit in really well, because if the force is not already a bunch of nancies, it will be by the time Beazley binti and Dear Leader are finished with it.

Patrick

4th April 2007, 17:05

Will you two stop squabbling. I guess Dover has some excuse since I don't suppose he's getting any yet.

Awwww, Ix...............spoilsport!!!

Was havin a little bit of fun... he throws shit and abuse around and all is good, I fire a teeny weeny little hook and bait and man does the bitch scream, only a little this time, mind.....:killingme :rofl:

I now know who has been stealing the steam off my shite... cut it out Dover or I will arrest ya for theft...:shutup:

Patrick

4th April 2007, 17:14

Like hell. Go back a few posts and look at my bitch about getting a ticket for 147kmh and then seeing the same copper tearing up and down a surban area [50kmh] doing wheelie's and well over 100kmh.
If you think that sort of behaviour is acceptable your certifiable.

Police behaviour needs to be beyond reproach at ALL times.

So what did YOU do about that cops driving? You saw it, lodge a complaint. One of our Senior Sergeants just got a ticket for failing to indicate at a roundabout in a patrol car after a complaint was made. Times have changed.

That sort of behaviour you outline is clearly not acceptable, he should be done like anyone else.

But......, what I do in my private time should be my and my business only. Are they now going to tell all Policemen from now on, you can ONLY do it in the missionary position, but ONLY if you are married to her?

Patrick

4th April 2007, 17:15

SixPackBack

4th April 2007, 17:18

you can ONLY do it in the missionary position

With the lights on and your baton locked securely away.:shutup:

scumdog

4th April 2007, 17:18

Police behaviour needs to be beyond reproach at ALL times.[/FONT]

Piss off bitch, some of us do have a life outside work.

I bet my behaviour at KB get togethers and other rallies is somewhat less than impeccable (not beyond reproach I suppose you could say?) but to date I've had nobody bitch at me about it, disown me because of it or report me to 'somebody':whocares:

Patrick

4th April 2007, 17:24

With the lights on and your baton locked securely away.:shutup:

Quite right... with lights on... at 7.45pm on the 19th of November only...

My Police baton wouldn't go anywhere near anyone I like or love... hit some very dirty scrotes with it, wouldn't want to spread any of their filthy germs.... same goes for the handcuffs...

Except the fluffy ones, she likes those ones...

SixPackBack

4th April 2007, 18:32

Piss off bitch, some of us do have a life outside work.

I bet my behaviour at KB get togethers and other rallies is somewhat less than impeccable (not beyond reproach I suppose you could say?) but to date I've had nobody bitch at me about it, disown me because of it or report me to 'somebody':whocares:

You drunken Harley riders should be thrown outa the force, your a bloody digrace to the uniform.

Grahameeboy

4th April 2007, 18:40

You drunken Harley riders should be thrown outa the force, your a bloody digrace to the uniform.

I can see tomorrow's headlines..........314 cops have bought Harleys between 1979 and 2005, 115 did not have a valid Wof....blah blah...........what is the force coming too

scumdog

4th April 2007, 21:26

You drunken Harley riders should be thrown outa the force, your a bloody digrace to the uniform.

Disgrace? disgrace? I'll show disgrace!!

But not at the moment, us drunken Harley riding cops have a high standard to maintain right now:yes:

Mainly cos of Dolly Dogooders like you.

RT527

4th April 2007, 21:47

With the lights on and your baton locked securely away.:shutup:

How can he lock it away if you wont give it back......:mellow: :shit:

SixPackBack

5th April 2007, 07:01

Its high time you coppers apologised for being drunken rapists.

A collective post expressing regret to the entire site seems appropriate.

Then we can move on.

spudchucka

5th April 2007, 07:08

Grow up and get over yourself.

SixPackBack

5th April 2007, 12:04

Grow up and get over yourself.

In light of the new police directive you will address me as Sir from now on.

scumdog

5th April 2007, 18:41

In light of the new police directive you will address me as Sir from now on.

I don't think so - I've never met a blow-hard wanker that was worthy of 'sir' before.

Oi you! would be more your level.

Grahameeboy

5th April 2007, 18:54

I don't think so - I've never met a blow-hard wanker that was worthy of 'sir' before.

Oi you! would be more your level.

Sixwhatsists - Nobel Prize for Contributions to the Police Force............without a thought for others, his dedication to the cause, unselfish time beyond the call of duty...............he has single handly.......yep 'Wanker'

Arise..............

SixPackBack

5th April 2007, 19:52

Sixwhatsists - Nobel Prize for Contributions to the Police Force............without a thought for others, his dedication to the cause, unselfish time beyond the call of duty...............he has single handly.......yep 'Wanker'

Arise..............

Grahamee get your tongue out of Scummy's crack, sex with orificers is not allowed.

And Scummy on a serious note calling any member of the public a 'blow hard wanker' in a very short time will see disciplinary action against you and that's a fact. :Punk:

So fucken behave yourself:shutup:

Grahameeboy

5th April 2007, 20:03

Grahamee get your tongue out of Scummy's crack, sex with orificers is not allowed.

And Scummy on a serious note calling any member of the public a 'blow hard wanker' in a very short time will see disciplinary action against you and that's a fact. :Punk:

So fucken behave yourself:shutup:

Tongue?........................................... ...:gob:

Hillbilly

5th April 2007, 20:56

C'mon everyone - be nice! After all the HP gives pressies to good riders. :dodge:

scumdog

5th April 2007, 22:39

[/FONT]

So fucken behave yourself:shutup:

Pfffft!
How many times do you think I've somebody say THAT to me?:whocares:

And how many times have I even cared?:wait: :rolleyes: :yawn:

The_Dover

5th April 2007, 23:38

Pfffft!
How many times do you think I've somebody say THAT to me?:whocares:

And how many times have I even cared?:wait: :rolleyes: :yawn:

I guess when you're nearing retirement your professional standards slip a little eh?

SixPackBack

7th April 2007, 08:37

The new directive (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10433021) should see a few old fossils kicked out. Scummy will be gone by lunchtime.:bleh:

scumdog

7th April 2007, 09:26

The new directive (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10433021) should see a few old fossils kicked out. Scummy will be gone by lunchtime.:bleh:

"I don't think so Tim"

Don't give a fat rats arse about any wankin' 'directive' - you sure you didn't write it yourself??

Patrick

7th April 2007, 10:53

Yep... can see it now... Joe Knuckledragger abusing the shit out of you, threatening to rape your grandma and kids, etc etc... Officer calls him a tosser... he makes a PCA...because he called the skidmark a tosser...
Oh Yay.....

Oh.... hang on a minute... that happens already!!!!!!!

RT527

8th April 2007, 10:47

hey if the six pack and the dover are so sure that the cops are all tossers, let them go make there complaints...sounds to me like they gots a grudge cause they gone done something wrong and had to pay for it.........Tell ya what i think...if we hadn't been so into being disrespectful to the law and the fuzz, then we wouldn't be in this situation......at the moment the way we treat people for doing there job is disgusting ...so what makes you think you're going to get any respect back, you Earn Respect you don't Demand it.

puddy

8th April 2007, 11:25

Who'd be a cop?Ya wouldn't do it for the money?People brag about being surgeons/lawyers/IT tossers etc,but not cops!It's thankless.......if ya wanna get a thankyou,become a fireman.Ya have to be doing it for love(much like nurses and teachers)...the pay's shit,the demands are high......far as I'm concerned,they are the CHOSEN ONES(along with the aforementioned nurses and teachers).I speed,I know the rules,I smile,I pay the fines,I don't whinge about it.Those that whinge wouldn't do the job for shit!

SixPackBack

8th April 2007, 12:01

..................

Grahameeboy

8th April 2007, 12:09

So in brief you actually mean this...and I quote...'He is mostly right of course. Its the top brass and pollies who are fucking up the most'

Sixer, you are fine to have your opinion..that's cool...but like all companies it starts from the top and if things go wrong it is not always the staff's fault.

I am sure most cops joined force to do something good and some and are probably dissallusioned but they don't give up so there has to be respect for that.

You are in a top management position so are able to encourage change. Cops are not so privaleged....

Nd yes I am still stalking you

SixPackBack

8th April 2007, 12:21

....................

Grahameeboy

8th April 2007, 12:28

Staff can and do push back. You see very little evidence of it from within either the government or the police. Just lots of excuses, and the well documented veil of silence.

For fucks sake lets see a few of them have the balls to say the drug laws are wrong and speeding fines are revenue collection. And then set about changing the current hypocritical situation.

A show of hands perhaps?

The problem in NZ is that there is only one Chief of Police wheras in the UK each County has it's own Chief of Police. I think I am right in saying that sometime last year the UK Police stood upto the Govt.........because they have the numbers too, however, in NZ that is just hard to do with 1 Chief of Police against the Govt............I mean the Police in Northumbria have decided not to have speed cameras which shows the difference.

MSTRS

8th April 2007, 12:57

The problem in NZ is that there is only one Chief of Police wheras in the UK each County has it's own Chief of Police. I think I am right in saying that sometime last year the UK Police stood upto the Govt.........because they have the numbers too, however, in NZ that is just hard to do with 1 Chief of Police against the Govt............I mean the Police in Northumbria have decided not to have speed cameras which shows the difference.

The old safety in numbers thing? Makes no difference to have only one Chief of Police...with the support of his second echelon 'cronies', his voice with the govt is just as powerful.
The fact is that we have a flow down system here, sort of like this....

Grahameeboy

8th April 2007, 13:00

The old safety in numbers thing? Makes no difference to have only one Chief of Police...with the support of his second echelon 'cronies', his voice with the govt is just as powerful.
The fact is that we have a flow down system here, sort of like this....

I knew you'd get the family tree out eventually!!

BigB

8th April 2007, 14:26

After my run in with mister plod and his attitude you can see why they have such a rep. I respect cops for the job they do and the shit they have to put up with, but although this cop didn't give me a ticket his attitude towards me right from the start sucked.

Quote "Do you have lots of money?" "No" " You must do as you want a ticket for travelling to close" what sort of comment is that??

I will start a separate thread once I get a copy of the video, that's right him pulling me over was videoed.

cheers

B

RT527

8th April 2007, 17:06

Yup six pack i have a closed mind....hmmm, dont think so , more like im not singing the same song as you so im outta tune ....Right?

I see the shit that cops put up with and thats only a quarter of what they go through...I have had arseholes pull me up and give me a lecture till they find out im a volunteer then it s all good, and I dont hesitate to let them know that there people skills suck, usually there comeback is have a nice day and move along.

I dont complain I just tell em to sod off till they can talk to me as if im a human being.

you only have to give them your name and address with licence, yet people cant help winding up the decent ones.

If a cop pulls me over and talks to me then i talk back...if he lectures while frothing at the mouth then i kinda go deaf.

I had one stop me at the top of a hill on the way back from whitianga in my truck where i normally pull over to let traffic past...he walks up to all staunch like , i look down at him and say good morning....he goes...just seeing whats flapping around down by your door it was my tool box which hadnt shut properly, nothing could come out, but he shut it for me and told me to have a nice day and i let him go and carried on , thing is he was nice about it no lecture or nothing which if it had of happened in auckland i would have been threatend with insecure loading.

Mind you if spud,patrick,or scumdog hadda pulled me over , ive no doubt about what pepper spray and a good beating would have felt like:crazy: :slap: :cry: :Police: :doh: :Pokey: :Playnice:

The_Dover

8th April 2007, 18:17

Mind you if spud,patrick,or scumdog hadda pulled me over , ive no doubt about what pepper spray and a good beating would have felt like:crazy: :slap: :cry: :Police: :doh: :Pokey: :Playnice:

not to mention a damned good cornholing....

Grahameeboy

8th April 2007, 18:19

not to mention a damned good cornholing....

post birth time getting to ya is it............down Dover.........

The_Dover

8th April 2007, 18:25

post birth time getting to ya is it............down Dover.........

mate, I'm about as sexually frustrated as Ron Jeremy.

and once she's put the little one down I'm gonna give the dog a bone.

(Charlie got fed this morning)

McJim

8th April 2007, 19:33

mate, I'm about as sexually frustrated as Ron Jeremy.

Actually he only gets about 33% of his tackle inside so I imagine that might be quite frustrating...

Littleman

8th April 2007, 20:51

Speaking for myself that is strictly not true. With the exception of speeding [which virtually every kiwi is guilty of occasionally], I do not break any law.

I don't drink bugger all, no drugs, married for over 18 years, hold down a management position in a cutting edge technical company. I am squeaky clean by any measure. Sorry to disappoint.

The police along with the government lost my respect years ago, they are cumbersome archaic institutions, self serving and prehistoric in outlook. By any commercial measurement their collective performance would be totally unacceptable, they lie, they do not listen to those that know better, law enforcement is often a flimsy excuse for cash collection. And worst of all closed minds such as your own RT527 go along with the sheep and beer swilling mentality that has grown up in N.Z. and perpetuate the collective stupidity in the erroneous belief the pigs and government are performing well. They are not and have recently publicly admitted so.

Oh thank God you have arrived. The Messiah!!! You bold speak of which none of who can reply!!! You are the panacea to all societal woes!!! You of such alightenment. Such insight having no apathy of which you speak!! Lead us my lord, show us the way lest you become one of the mediocre ones of which you reffer to which such distain.

Affect change for you after all are IT and a manager!!(cool......)

scumdog

9th April 2007, 08:50

I guess when you're nearing retirement your professional standards slip a little eh?

The same standards I had 10 years ago pal....

And SPB?
Issuing tickets for speeding is 'revenue gathering'? - well hope you pay my share too - I've not paid anything towards THAT tax for over 20 years...:nya:

The_Dover

9th April 2007, 08:55

The same standards I had 10 years ago pal....

what about 20 years ago? say, around 1985??

scumdog

9th April 2007, 08:59

what about 20 years ago? say, around 1985??

Why not go back to 1971?
Same standards.

scumdog

9th April 2007, 09:13

Your a cop?...... as soon as your pulled over and waive the badge they let you go. And theres the harley thing of course.

The last time I got pulled over was by a booze-bus team about four years ago - and yes, I was on my Harley.......

(Never had to show my I.D. yet)

scumdog

9th April 2007, 15:59

The fuckers hate me I tell ya, buggered if I know why.

Maybe they all read your posts on KB?????:whistle:

scumdog

9th April 2007, 16:09

Sure they do. That presents them with a perfect opportunity to show me how wrong I am.

Don't know why they would bother - ya don't take any notice!!

scumdog

9th April 2007, 16:25

Well I guess when one of them does you for 147kmh [my fault] and is caught shortly there after wheeliing up and down a suburban street at well over 100kmh its hard not to be cynical. Yes he watches KB.
But just like the rape victims the police are not interested in public complaints. There are most definitely two sets of rules at work here scummy.

Yup.
One for those that get caught.

And one for those that don't.

Your wheelying mate sounds like the later.

You sound like the first.

Bad luck.

And that's the way I look at it - ya can't expect all cops to live like saints 100% of the time. (We aren't paid THAT much!)

And I don't expect YOU to either - but when you ARE caught just shrug your shoulders and get on with life. (That's what I would do)

Patrick

11th April 2007, 17:35

what about 20 years ago? say, around 1985??

Yep, same standards for me back then... and still an unblemished record... Unlike those other 3...

Well I guess when one of them does you for 147kmh [my fault] and is caught shortly there after wheeliing up and down a suburban street at well over 100kmh its hard not to be cynical.

Can understand why you would feel that way under those circumstances...Should have complained... along with all the other neighbours... that'll learn him...

Yup.
One for those that get caught. [the general public]

And one for those that don't. [scumbag ginga coppers]

Your wheelying mate sounds like the later.

You sound like the first.

Bad luck.

[YOU do start having to pull your socks up, the government and general public demand it][/i]

One for those that get caught - SPB, me, anyone...
One for those that don't get caught - SPB (has happened, hasn't it?) me, anyone...

The Government and general public demand I pull my socks up? What socks? I wear chandals... I must have missed that front page headliner...

Grahameeboy

13th April 2007, 07:30

Its 'jandals'.......

Since there seems to be an aversion to reading by the KB coppers I have [very generously] taken the time to quote directly from Beazleys report. This is an extract from the commissioners overview.

"It is very clear to me that in order to maintain public trust and credibility police officers need to adhere to high standards of ethical behaviour, both on and off duty".

Deal with it.

I guess like most people in all walks of life this should be a basic human desire (I can see I will get picked up on that word but what the 'eck) and I guess the majority of people, cops, nurses, office workers etc try and a few fail.

What the Commissioner says is true, however, remember that cop who had been drinking and took a call to an accident scene and saved the accident victims life...............based on the Commissioners view he should have stayed at home but he didn't, he did the ethical thing and saved someone's life and still got rep'd for it by all insundry.

You need to stop giving the minority stick and look at the while picture. If the majority of cops were bad then fair call but they are not and SD is probably just giving it back cause he sounds like a good cop and person to me.

'The Stalker'

scumdog

13th April 2007, 10:42