False competitions

[avgas]

Has anyone ever heard of ANYONE winning a car, million dollars etc from the likes of Trendwest etc
I think it may be a big scam that the lotteries commission should investigate. As i have never heard of anyone of the millions of signatures those places get cos you sign up after seeing a bmw parked in a mall.
Any thoughts?

[The Pastor]

yeah they hax it up all the time its all bullshit ive never won anything, except once i won a free box of pepsi off the rock, that was cool. Actually it was warm but we put it in the fridge which worked out well. Until the fridge died.

[The Stranger]

yeah they hax it up all the time its all bullshit ive never won anything, except once i won a free box of pepsi off the rock, that was cool. Actually it was warm but we put it in the fridge which worked out well. Until the fridge died.

My goodness, then what happened - we are all waiting with bated breath.

[Maha]

Send $100 to Box 69 Warkworth and be into win a night with a 'Stranger'....Drawn this Friday 16th March 07'....:yes:

[placidfemme]

Yeah a lot of those comp's they hold in malls and stuff are a load of crap just to get your details.

Notice how on the form it asks for your marital status, your income, your phone number and most times what your house is worth?

When they leave the mall the leads (yes... LEADS) are sorted into Qualified and Not Qualified. They then use your details to call you up and piss you off for the next "survey" or "telemarketing campaign".

If you do decide to enter those comps. Just put your name as:

A. Name and your mobile number.

Don't full out any of the other details. Then your sorted as "NQ" and they won't call you. Or if there is a space on the form (usually where the disclaimer is) there might be a box that says "Tick here if you do not want us to contact you". Tick that box if you like... but they'll still call you.

The company I used to work for generated thier leads via this method, using a Skoda car as the gimic prize... the car was rented and NEVER intended to be given away and it never was...

[Squeak the Rat]

I think it may be a big scam that the lotteries commission should investigate.

I guess some one should make a complaint then.....:wait: Contact them and ask for the competition details, who won the last one, how it's drawn, how long it goes for - basically full disclosure. Send it to the commission if it's dodge, and cc it to the commerce commission as it also falls under the fair trading act.

[Babelfish]

Send $100 to Box 69 Warkworth and be into win a night with a 'Stranger'....Drawn this Friday 16th March 07'....:yes:

...I had a 69 with a box once...:drool:

[Karma]

Send $100 to Box 69 Warkworth and be into win a night with a 'Stranger'....Drawn this Friday 16th March 07'....:yes:

There are a few of us would be interested in that, if we chip in 50/50 would the stranger be interested in a group meeting?

[Squeak the Rat]

Twould the stranger be interested in a group meeting?

I think he's on duty that night..... :rofl:

[avgas]

email sent to the DIA, see what it brings...
I'm just sick of scammers thats all. But yeh as stated earlier - i fell into the bracket with enough income to purchase a timeshare. So they called me.
I didnt buy 1, but this type of scheme in NZ makes me sick.

[Maha]

There are a few of us would be interested in that, if we chip in 50/50 would the stranger be interested in a group meeting?


HELL YES!!!!!.......:yes: :killingme

[The Stranger]

HELL YES!!!!!.......:yes: :killingme

Shit yeah, the more the merrier.

I gather mom has entered 6 times now - You'll be rich maha.

[Maha]

Shit yeah, the more the merrier.

I gather mom has entered 6 times now - You'll be rich maha.

Im still laughing at Weasels post, he thinks you're a she....:killingme
And i wanna see his money.....:rockon:

[placidfemme]

Shit yeah, the more the merrier.

I gather mom has entered 6 times now - You'll be rich maha.

lol great come back! Bling awarded

[ManDownUnder]

Im still laughing at Weasels post, he thinks you're a she....:killingme

LOL... the way I read it - he know's he's a he... and I'm laughing anyway.


WEASEL IS OUT! (http://youtube.com/?v=fbGkxcY7YFU)

[Maha]

LOL... the way I read it - he know's he's a he... and I'm laughing anyway.


WEASEL IS OUT! (http://youtube.com/?v=fbGkxcY7YFU)


Ya know what!...i think you are onto something there Ned.....:clap:

[Karma]

I doubt it, that closet I'm in is locked up fairly tight.

I'm just waiting for an intelligent attractive kiwi chick... this may take a while...

[placidfemme]

I'm just waiting for an intelligent attractive kiwi chick... this may take a while...

You left out... "who either rides or doesn't mind being BOB"

[ManDownUnder]

I doubt it, that closet I'm in is locked up fairly tight.

I'm just waiting for an intelligent attractive kiwi chick... this may take a while...

Queer as a concrete parachute... ...and he's in denial... I understand you'll be comfortable once you accept it and move on. George Michael seems happy enough.

[Karma]

You left out... "who either rides or doesn't mind being BOB"

Well if we're gonna start getting picky about the list, I'd need to add;

- able to relax throat muscles when required
- very "flexable"
- knows how to use a razor

the list goes on and on...


Queer as a concrete parachute... ...and he's in denial... I understand you'll be comfortable once you accept it and move on. George Michael seems happy enough.

I'm not, but for you or the stanger, well, who knows...

And George Michael... he'll be dead within 3 years I reckon...

[ManDownUnder]

And George Michael... he'll be dead within 3 years I reckon...

You saying you have something contageous?

[Karma]

No, but I'd bet money he does.

[Guitana]

Send $100 to Box 69 Warkworth and be into win a night with a 'Stranger'....Drawn this Friday 16th March 07'....:yes:

Would you take a Cheque????????

[Guitana]

When I was a younger Rooster me and a couple of mates rang a random number and told the guy we were from a local radio station in Wellington and that he had just won Ten Thousand dollars in a competition! He told me he was surprised because he had'nt entered one but was really fucken excited that he had won!!! This went on for about five minutes then I felt a bit sorry for him and came clean the language was amazing I was trying to write down some of the shit he was saying as even I had never heard it before!!!
Karma is hunting me down!!!!!:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :nono: :nono:

[Maha]

Would you take a Cheque????????

We are still on topic sort of aye?
Um no Cheque.....he perfers a swipe card......:moon:

[Guitana]

We are still on topic sort of aye?
Um no Cheque.....he perfers a swipe card......:moon:

Oh you mean EFTPOO'S!!!!!!!

[avgas]

Karma is hunting me down!!!!!:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :nono: :nono:
And yet you keep diggin that hole :laugh: :clap:

[Quartermile]

Oh you mean EFTPOO'S!!!!!!!

I call shotgun going first, don't want any of weasels um conditions:D

[Guitana]

And yet you keep diggin that hole :laugh: :clap:

Why stop I'm almost through to China!!!!!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Send $100 to Box 69 Warkworth and be into win a night with a 'Stranger'....Drawn this Friday 16th March 07'....:yes:

Can i send a chq

[Mrs Busa Pete]

We are still on topic sort of aye?
Um no Cheque.....he perfers a swipe card......:moon:

op's didn't she this one. ok will my foodtown card do then

[mstriumph]

Yeah a lot of those comp's they hold in malls and stuff are a load of crap just to get your details.

Notice how on the form it asks for your marital status, your income, your phone number and most times what your house is worth?.........

c'mon :shit:
SURELY no-one would give any of those details to a perfect stranger in a mall? ............... it'd be insane? :mellow:

[Maha]

op's didn't she this one. ok will my foodtown card do then


Yes...you will have to warm first tho,.....oh and wear rubber gloves....:yes:

[Stickchick]

I guess some one should make a complaint then.....:wait: Contact them and ask for the competition details, who won the last one, how it's drawn, how long it goes for - basically full disclosure. Send it to the commission if it's dodge, and cc it to the commerce commission as it also falls under the fair trading act.

I work for the Lotteries Commission so you can forward to me if you like I will get the necessary people to investigate.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

When I was a younger Rooster me and a couple of mates rang a random number and told the guy we were from a local radio station in Wellington and that he had just won Ten Thousand dollars in a competition! He told me he was surprised because he had'nt entered one but was really fucken excited that he had won!!! This went on for about five minutes then I felt a bit sorry for him and came clean the language was amazing I was trying to write down some of the shit he was saying as even I had never heard it before!!!
Karma is hunting me down!!!!!:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :nono: :nono:

I done that one as well but i rang a neighbour and then sent $10 monopoly money and waited for her to get it in the mail. Bloody funny it was.

[Skyryder]

...I had a 69 with a box once...:drool:

Yea and my singing teacher sugested I should practice yodeling up the canyon.

Skyryder

[Maha]

Yea and my singing teacher sugested I should practice yodeling up her canyon.

Skyryder


Really?.... all i got from my music teacher was a -C.......:third:

[Skyryder]

Really?.... all i got from my music teacher was a -C.......:third:

That's what happens when you fumble with the G string.

Skyryder

[avgas]

Hello Stewart

Your email has been forwarded to me for response.

"Gambling" is defined in section 4 of the Gambling Act 2003 (the Act).

"gambling'' —
(a) means paying or staking consideration, directly or indirectly, on the outcome of something seeking to win money when the outcome depends wholly or partly on chance; and
(b) includes a sales promotion scheme; and
(c) includes bookmaking; and
(d) includes betting, paying, or staking consideration on the outcome of a sporting event; but
(e) does not include an act, behaviour, or transaction that is declared not to be gambling by regulations made under section 368

If there was payment, either directly or indirectly, to enter the draw (indirect payment may be if the people had to pay to enter a demonstration or event and the entry entitled them to entry into a draw), then it may be caught by the Gambling Act 2003.

From the information you have provided, it does not appear that people have to pay anything to enter either directly or indirectly. Therefore, it does not appear, from the information provided, to be caught by the Gambling Act 2003.

You may wish to check with other organisations/legislation, such as Consumer or Fair Trading, to see if they have any rules around draws that are not gambling activities.

Regards

Judy #####
Senior Gambling Inspector
Gaming Compliance Unit
The Department of Internal Affairs Te Tari Taiwhenua
Direct Dial: +64 4 495 9466
Fax: +64 4 494 0656
www.dia.govt.nz


"Stewart Farr"

13/03/2007 14:19

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Competition/Raffle question






If a competition (free entry), does not give away its prize, or tells mis truths about there being a prize.
Is it illegal in NZ?
Reason for my question is that i am forever seeing timeshare (Trendwest etc) based companies running "Giveaways", but i am yet to see them ever present a prize to someone, or announce a winner.
I have been told that since there is no fee for entry, then it is not a gaming problem, and therefore not illegal.
Is this correct?

--
Cheers
Stew

[Squeak the Rat]

Dude, you want the lotteries commission and/or the commerce commission.. The DIA only looks after gambling as per their definition.

See Stickchicks post earlier - she's offered to pass something on! :niceone:

[pzkpfw]

I work for the Lotteries Commission...

Hi,

You couldn't answer a question for me then? (I can pay in KB Bling).

It's about those phone/text "competitions" where they ask a daft question like "Is that thing in the picture that any kid can tell you is the Eiffel Tower; in A) Paris or B) Berlin?".

Apart from the whole rip-off thing (on my good quality 32" CRT/TV I can't barely read the $5 per text disclaimer) how are these even legal?

They basically seem to be a lottery - which I thought had to be regulated.

Is that simple question (and the ones that follow for more $) all they need to do to make it not a lottery?

(Like, I guess, the competitions from people like coke where they say "fill in the missing letter in [CO_A CO_A]".)

Can I just put an ad in the paper that says "Send $5 to P.O.Box 1234 to be in the draw to win $100, and by the way, tell us who is on a $5 note"?

Sorry, that was more of a rant than a question. Hope you saw it in there somewhere.

Cheers,

[Disco Dan]

...I had a 69 with a box once...:drool:

Only once?

[Smorg]

c'mon :shit:
SURELY no-one would give any of those details to a perfect stranger in a mall? ............... it'd be insane? :mellow:

not if you get a free................................CAR!!!!!!! ding ding ding :yes: