Why such hatred for other bike types?

[Mully]

Hi All,

Just something that has been bothering me for a while.

I work with a guy who rides an old Guzzi. Good for him and all that. What I don't understand is why this guy has such hatred for Harleys and Harley riders. He calls them tractors and generally puts them down at any opportunity (I was reading a bike mag article on the new Harley range and he nearly went bananas). I get the friendly ribbing in here ("when are you going to get a proper bike, you Fag" etc) but this goes further.

Does anyone understand the disdain for Harleys? I asked him, and he said he'd never ridden one. I figure maybe his Dad had one when he was a kid and ignored him because of it.

Now, if I was to have one bike, it probably wouldn't be a Harley. If however I lived the Kiwi Biker's dream and had a garage full of bikes, I'm sure a Harley would probably be in there somehere.

Surely bikes have enough problems with cages and the Gummit trying to illegilise anything fun (like beating your kids, but I digress) that we need to all stick together as a group of bikers, rather than Harley riders, Jappa riders, etc.

Anyway, that's my rant done.

Cheers,
Mully

[Duc]

Unfortunately Mully you will always find people (even on this forum) who will call you a fag just because of the bike you ride. Matters not to them what the bike is or who you are. Kind of xenophobic.

Fag seems to be an ultimate insult word to them for some reason. I think they are like the drivers who give YOU the fingers when THEY are in the wrong.

"Go figure the minds of men"

[riffer]

Quite simply really.

Some people are ignorant, biased arseholes.

All bikes are good. :yes:

People who diss Harley-Davidsons should at least ride a few before making comment.

I've ridden a few Harley-Davidsons I wouldn't own, but I've never ridden one I didn't like.

[kneescraper]

Maybe its the shit that comes with those types of bikes...patches and all the unneeded bullshit. Many a times Ive ridden past a biker on a Harley and waved and the rider just looked at me, but then I remembered that Im not cool and he is....also my shit still smells.

I say its the bull shit that buys them that wreaks the image...they make them what they are.

Real men that can drink 3 doz a night ride Harleys.

[kneescraper]

Some people are ignorant, biased arseholes.

They drive cars....

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Maybe its the shit that comes with those types of bikes...patches and all the unneeded bullshit. Many a times Ive ridden past a biker on a Harley and waved and the rider just looked at me, but then I remembered that Im not cool and he is....also my shit still smells.

I say its the bull shit that buys them that wreaks the image...they make them what they are.

Real men that can drink 3 doz a night ride Harleys.


What this man said.
However it is only a perception. Wasp27 rides with us and he has a H/D. You will not find a nicer couple in the world. Also my best mate from way back rode a H/D bad boy and he was cool.

At the end of the day we are not obliged to like everyone. Well not yet but I am sure Sue bloody .....arrrr let it go

So go out in to the world and make your friends and live life to the max. You just might not get another go at it tomorrow. Shit happens and make life better for others. As you have done with this post. Well done.

[GSX-RJIM]

People just need to wah on about bullshit and have something that they 'hate' or are scared of. It goes way back to the "cave man " days, where there was some real stuff to be constantly fucking scared of, so shit gets made up to teach others about protecting them selves ie : stories and warnings not fuck with what ever you are scared of or don't understand (like Harley's). Next time he wah's on ask him why he is so scared,- he will hate it , but it will be funny to see his reaction.

[Midge]

the Gummit trying to illegilise anything fun (like beating your kids, but I digress)

Fun like beating your kid LOL

[Colapop]

Hmmm let's see... have a bike or not... I think I'd rather have one thanks. If people don't like my bike I don't care - I do. I don't give a toss who I wave or nod to on the road, what type of bikes I ride with. Biking is good, EOS.

[Mully]

Fun like beating your kid LOL

Well, I need a hobby.

[johnnyflash]

Think it says a hell of a lot about the person doing the trashing of the others rides, insecure, immature, jealous. but hey, Ofcourse there is always a "little" light hearted ribbing about anothers ride between mates :-) Personally I couldnt give a rats A what anyone else thought, though its always a pleasure to have someone admire your ride

[kneescraper]

Ok so lets get this right....if you dont like something, bikes included...and you voice your thoughts on it..your insecure, immature and jealous...come on ffs.

I dont like Harleys because they do nothing for me....also I dont like the bullshit that comes with them. Sterio types dont just appear out of nothing

[Fub@r]

Ok so lets get this right....if you dont like something, bikes included...and you voice your thoughts on it..your insecure, immature and jealous...come on ffs.

I dont like Harleys because they do nothing for me....also I dont like the bullshit that comes with them. Sterio types dont just appear out of nothing

Its one thing to have a dislike and say so, but to do it so vermitly just shows ignorance.

I was on a BRONZ ride yesterday, plenty of Harleys there and bloody nice bunch of guys riding them. A Harley is not my thing but I can still appreciate them.

From the other side I get hassled all the time about riding a Hyosung, but its always in fun. I have had Harley riders admire my bike for its looks and the fact its a 250.

The Harley riders that give them a bad name are usually the scum of society eg: patched gangs

[Macktheknife]

I think it really is just a piss take gone to far, people get fixated on some things, like your mate. He probably grew up in a time when Harleys were owned by wankers who wouldn't give you the time of day, or would take anything you owned.
Therefore Harley=wanker.
I personally have ridden a couple of Harleys and I don't mind them, like you I would own one as part of my collection.
In my books, 2 wheels= it's all good.

[Timber020]

Its natural for people to include themselves in some sort of group and disclude people who belong to outside groups. Mother nature in action.

Of course harley davidson riders will be in denile about this and honda riders probably will just be annoyed that they never learned to read.

[merv]

All this from a plonker that rides an old air cooled twin of his own. How far up the food chain is the Guzzi from a tractor? Me I don't care what any one rides nor would I ever diss another bike. I can tell you which ones I've owned and didn't like but even then its about taste, your own body size and shape and all sorts of things that decides whether you feel comfortable on a bike. Its that character thing again, what one person thinks is character another just thinks of as poor excuses. If Harleys were such crap they wouldn't be selling record numbers year by year. Funny - Guzzi doesn't sell that well.

[kneescraper]

Well maybe my thoughts on Harleys are different...I think that maybe because the Harleys Ive seen are being ridden by "scum". If I was to ride with some other Harley riders my thoughts would change. However I can only judge on what Ive seen.

[merv]

Round here I'm guessing most of the Harley's are ridden by executive types and these days they wave at us other bikers like we are part of the clan, more so than the European bike riders do. As for waving the funny thing I'm finding these days there are now so many scooters on the road and I wave at them all coz they got two wheels, and do they look surprised when I treat them like a fellow biker.

[Big Dave]

Fu* k Urals.

[Bonez]

Does anyone understand the disdain for Harleys?Mother/girfreind/wife raped by Harley riding gang member maybe?:whocares:

[Steam]

Fu* k Urals.

Oi! A Ural is my dream bike!

[Ixion]

Rather amusing really, all the angst about Harleys versus sprotsbikes, BEARS versus Jappa etc.

Of course, as every real biker knows, all those four stroke things are just pale, smokeless wannabe imitations of real bikes.

[Bonez]

Oi! A Ural is my dream bike!And I must say you have impecable tastes in your selection of m/cs.

[Mully]

Yeah, it's pretty funny to me. I tend to egg him on.

Maybe no Harleys have ever waved to him so he got all bitter.

From what I gather, he's a lunatic on his bike anyway (when it goes)

[Motu]

They are also the same people who went apeshit about the C50 being made Bike of the Century - they just haven't got a clue....but plenty of opinions.

[Bonez]

Of course, as every real biker knows, all those four stroke things are just pale, smokeless wannabe imitations of real bikes.Hey! You haven't seen the CX in full combat mode. Smoke screen for miles:gob:

[Ixion]

Oi! A Ural is my dream bike!

You can't get spare parts or accessories for Urals.

A Chang Jian is what you want. Retro as, and you can get all the goodies to go with it. And it's a side valve. Nothing gives cred like side valves. With a side valve you can sneer at ANY other bike, except of course a two stroke, they will sneer at you cos you still have those silly valves, n camshafts, n all the other useless stuff that goes round n round n round n up n down n up n n n n .......

[Steam]

You can't get spare parts or accessories for Urals.
A Chang Jian is what you want... and you can get all the goodies to go with it.
Oooh, I have seen them, thanks for the tip. Those cylinder heads look brutal and primitive, wonderful. I will do some research.
Now, back to thread topic of why we should hate all other types of bikers....

[Bonez]

Those cylinder heads look brutal and primitive, wonderful. Double as a grill when the bikes on it's side too.:yes:

[R6_kid]

have a cry... its generally a pisstake. Dont read into things so much, especially if it was spoken around this joint.

People will always tend to prove that they will say what makes them feel bigger/better/cooler (case in point: skidmark). Whether this comes down to arrogance, bias or low IQ is your decision.

I say shit about honda's and cruisers etc all the time, but as the saying goes "dont beat it til you've tried it" - i rode a honda and quite enjoyed it.

[Babelfish]

yeah, its funny that peoples own personalities are generally the personalities that really fuck them off. Yer snobby tw@ mate on his guzbasket is js another one of the short sighted ignorant neurotic arses that unfortunately started believing the joke that one bike is better than the other.

Typical, two many unmoving opinions about, but such people at work make for a short day in wind up value.

[Big Dave]

Oi! A Ural is my dream bike!

With a handle like Steam, how unlikely.

I always like the way ural owners are proud of the way they keep them on the road. One bloke I know in NSW has a Spam tin filled with foam for an air filter.
'works better than the original!'
'But it's a &*#^*% spam tin, mate?'
'yeah - clever hey!'
'couldn't you have taken the label off'
'but then you wouldn't know it was a spam tin.'
'........'


Actually, I wanted the Cossack 650 that they used to advertise on the back of 'two wheels' when I was 14. I could've afforded it on my part time copy boy wages too.

But by the time I was old enough to get my 'L's it was a CB450 instead.

[Donor]

Unfortunately Mully you will always find people (even on this forum) who will call you a fag just because of the bike you ride. Matters not to them what the bike is or who you are. Kind of xenophobic.

Dang!

I stepped down from a 250 2 smoker to a 4 stroke wind catching nana mobile, and nobody called ME a fag!

I feel so unloved...

[Shadows]

Real men that can drink 3 doz a night ride Harleys.

LOL, fuck that!
3 doz and I'd be :puke:! Too much bloat for me!

[Skyryder]

There has always been a bit of stick between Harleys and Guzzis. Might have something to do with the fact that Guzzis are the only 'other' bike that the Harley fraternity show some respect for. However there will always be some stick thrown about. Sounds like your workmate is riding the wrong bike:jerry: :jerry:

Skyryder

[Paul in NZ]

All this from a plonker that rides an old air cooled twin of his own. How far up the food chain is the Guzzi from a tractor? .

Careful Merv - You have never been closer to a visit from the brotherhood... :innocent: Guzzi people can get a bit one eyed I'm afraid! Quite funny to listen to them getting worked up about HD's... Dunno why??

[merv]

Careful Merv - You have never been closer to a visit from the brotherhood... :innocent: Guzzi people can get a bit one eyed I'm afraid! Quite funny to listen to them getting worked up about HD's... Dunno why??

Yeah cripes aren't they just the same with the cylinders twisted around a bit and a shaft drive added? You know they've got two wheels and all.

Me I'd ride anything, doesn't mean I'd buy it though.

[Paul in NZ]

Yeah cripes aren't they just the same with the cylinders twisted around a bit and a shaft drive added? You know they've got two wheels and all.

Me I'd ride anything, doesn't mean I'd buy it though.

THe samE???????? THE SAME?????????? AAARRGGGHHHH Splutter froth gurgle froth gnash - Merv...... how could you? (sob - sniff)

[doc]

I've got a Harley and an Italian piece of art. My opinion is that originally Harley created the image of the rebel. For us European types (We were part of the Commonwealth) Trumpies Nortons BSA's were the image of the Rebel. We were rebelling against AUTHORITY . Japanese bikes weren't part of it. Old fart's are returning to bikes, tainted by what they found interesting when they discovered bikes. You can't argue against the "Hog Culture" it's been a very successful marketing tool. The japanese bike rightly or wrongly responsible for the demise and difficulties, of the other brands. The "Original' harley brand survived. The others didn't. Knocking Harley is part of the rebel nature of non- conformists. How many knockers have actually taken a Hog for a ride with an open mind, just look at them they are extremely funcitonal appearance wise look at the motors no wires hanging down no hoses everywhere, no uneccessary chrome covers hiding functional parts. Just take a look at a modern motorcycle Bmw for instance and look at the distractions when you look at just the motor. Race bike replica's are for the track not riding to work and cruisin in the weekends. This is were we get our problem. Seriously we should all support BRONZ. The only gang that supports us. I don't even belong to them.

[Big Dave]

There has always been a bit of stick between Harleys and Guzzis. Might have something to do with the fact that Guzzis are the only 'other' bike that the Harley fraternity show some respect for

Never owned a Triumph then?

[bmz2]

:rockon: triumph, the bike that has the rebel feel to it, in fact it was in one of the first great movies ,the wild ones, gee way wasn't IT A HD,if they are the rebel bike, hatred to other bikes is due to only one company,it's about time they realized that the marketing is based on hatred towards other brands, they did it to one of the greats INDIAN, HD talk about being the first ?,and the best again marketing , HD do not liked to be reminded about the days of AMF when bike sale dropped of the face of the earth, then honda came in and cleaned up, and are still cleaning up,HD the company has the hatred towards othe bike companies, not so much the HD rider, but there are always a few who follow the HD line, take your bike into a HD stealer just see what reponse you get, talk to a jap dealer and see the diff:done:

[Ixion]

I always like the way ural owners are proud of the way they keep them on the road. One bloke I know in NSW has a Spam tin filled with foam for an air filter.
'works better than the original!'
'But it's a &*#^*% spam tin, mate?'
'yeah - clever hey!'
'couldn't you have taken the label off'
'but then you wouldn't know it was a spam tin.'
'........'




A genuine SPAM tin ? That's way cool.

[BarBender]

Does anyone understand the disdain for Harleys?

Cheers,
Mully

I'm not aware a disdain for Harleys or any other bike for that matter exists.
Must be the company you keep. :dodge:

[Big Dave]

A genuine SPAM tin ? That's way cool.[/quote]


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[Mr. Peanut]

Rather amusing really, all the angst about Harleys versus sprotsbikes, BEARS versus Jappa etc.

Of course, as every real biker knows, all those four stroke things are just pale, smokeless wannabe imitations of real bikes.

I concur my good man... :sherlock:

[orange dog]

I work with a guy who rides an old Guzzi. Good for him and all that. What I don't understand is why this guy has such hatred for Harleys and Harley riders. He calls them tractors and generally puts them down at any opportunity


That's funny because I'm pretty sure Guzzi engines WERE used in tractors before they were used in bikes, like the original Vespa's were made from left-over aircraft parts made redundant at end of the war.

Aside from that, no matter what groups/associations we are a part of, be it bike riders, chess players, rugby fans or knitting groups, there will always be a mixture of people, from the assholes, the quietly sarcastic, the doom and gloomers etc. up to the salt of the earth types which I like to think we have a high percentage of. That's simply human nature and it's pointless to try and understand or (especially if your female) try to change people.
All we can choose is how we respond to others....
Shit, I hate it when I start to sound like an old do-gooder. :shutup:

[orange dog]

http://www.rev-mag.com/Motorbikes/MotoGuzziV11/motoguzziv11.htm

Check out the above. maybe leave it on the smoko table at work for your workmate. Personally I think Guzzi make some great looking and sounding bikes and would be my prefrence over a Harley.

[Mr. Peanut]

That's funny because I'm pretty sure Guzzi engines WERE used in tractors before they were used in bikes, like the original Vespa's were made from left-over aircraft parts made redundant at end of the war.
Lambo eh? Aint that just a glorified tractor?
Same goes for Porsches, they's just fancy Beetles.

[orange dog]

Wonder what the 0-100 time is on that Lambo:zzzz:

[Mr. Peanut]

This is a nice Hog.

[ceebie13]

Oi! A Ural is my dream bike!

You've missed a couple of letters out, mate. Don't you mean Urinal? :shutup:

[Mully]

I'm not aware a disdain for Harleys or any other bike for that matter exists.
Must be the company you keep. :dodge:

Could be. You can pick your friends but you can't pick your workmates I guess.

You can also pick your nose, for what it's worth.

However, you can't roll your friends or workmates into little green balls. But I digress.

Sorry, I started rambling. What was the topic again??

[Big Dave]

This is a nice Hog.

I like those boots he's got on!

M2R have some similar - with the single moto-x style closer that I said I want - but it's more hob style.

But those look like alpine stars that look like air jordans. I gots to find me some of them!

adds

well - if you are a nicky hayden fan visit http://www.alpinestars.com

those boots are
http://www.alpinestars.com/Guys_Stunt_Shoe/pd/np/113/p/255204.html

[Swoop]

Wonder what the 0-100 time is on that Lambo:zzzz:
4.3 seconds.
IF you drive it off of a very tall cliff...

[2 wheel madness]

ALL BIKES ARE GOOD
i have an inline 4 triumph which is like a pom with slanty eyes and because of the triumph badge harley riders dont give me shit, quite funny considering its a kawasaki design

[ManDownUnder]

For me it's a piss take. I honestly don't like cruisers of various descriptions, but then a lot of the cruiser riders won't like my bike with similar passion, and ignorance. I'm not out to convert anyone - just have a dig on the understanding I can have a laugh... and they dig back and have a laugh too.

'scept Honda riders. They get no mercy

[Big Dave]

ALL BIKES ARE GOOD
i have an inline 4 triumph which is like a pom with slanty eyes and because of the triumph badge harley riders dont give me shit, quite funny considering its a kawasaki design

Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!

Kawasaki had NOTHING to do with the design.
Bloors men visited the Kawasaki factory and had consultations with K about manufacturing line principles - the design work on your bike was done by Lotus, Cosworth, Riccardo Engineering amongst other brit firms.

[Babelfish]

ALL BIKES ARE GOOD
i have an inline 4 triumph which is like a pom with slanty eyes and because of the triumph badge harley riders dont give me shit, quite funny considering its a kawasaki design

Yep, the triumph's are a good example of where this type of bloke (guzzy tosser) cock up...if you discuss the matter with them you generally find that they've locked onto an opinion without researching it or allowing the opinion to change if they've been made to look a nonce. I rate all bikes, but what I like about triumph is they've allowed themselves to progress designs, some of which definately get the tent pitched.

[Ixion]

.. the design work on your bike was done by Lotus, Cosworth, Riccardo Engineering amongst other brit firms.
..


So, does that mean the Thruxton is a Cossie Club racer ? :rofl: :killingme. Oh I'm on form tonight, every one a gem!

[2 wheel madness]

Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!

Kawasaki had NOTHING to do with the design.
Bloors men visited the Kawasaki factory and had consultations with K about manufacturing line principles - the design work on your bike was done by Lotus, Cosworth, Riccardo Engineering amongst other brit firms.

You could be right, i have been told the by a number of people so assumed it to be correct

[SPman]

You could be right, i have been told the by a number of people so assumed it to be correct

COULD be right!!!!

[Big Dave]

You could be right, i have been told the by a number of people so assumed it to be correct

Trust me on this one. I can quote first hand discussions with Mr Bloor Jnr, numerous factory men- I did their local PR for quite a while. Still do when the opportunity presents.

Also an enthusiast with a '95 tbird.

Also check the resources from Chadwick:

http://www.ianchadwick.com/motorcycles/triumph/

dc

[Big Dave]

So, does that mean the Thruxton is a Cossie Club racer ? :rofl: :killingme. Oh I'm on form tonight, every one a gem!

Shame they are set in Pyrite.

[Big Dave]

COULD be right!!!!

As you were, sergeant major.

[Ixion]

You're Orstroyline , you wouldn't understand. I'm pitching to a mature and sophisticated audience. You can get your money back at the box office.

[avgas]

there is nothing wrong with bikes........only the riders.
I used to be anti-mod (rockers rule).....but now the misses has scoot, that i steal time to time.
I'd never own a goldwing - rode 1 once......... and felt safer driving a car with no doors, no brakes, bald tyres......offroad

[Big Dave]

there is nothing wrong with bikes........only the riders.
I used to be anti-mod (rockers rule).....but now the misses has scoot, that i steal time to time.
I'd never own a goldwing - rode 1 once......... and felt safer driving a car with no doors, no brakes, bald tyres......offroad


Ahhh - Big Dave's law of diminishing arseholes.

Folks is Folks. If there are more folks in/on a particular brand - there will be more good folks on that brand. Conversely the same applies to dickheads.

[Krusti]

I'm a waving slut. I talk to and wave to any one on a bike.

Amazing what a smile and gidday mate will achieve! Have struck up conversations with the toughest old and young buggers.

Don't forget most bike riders love having thier ego's stroked. I draw the line at ego's though.

[Deviant Esq]

Honda riders get more crap on here than Harley riders. I don't think any of the guys who ride them (Hondas or Harleys) give a flying f**k though, they love their bike regardless. I've met decent guys who ride Harleys... and heterosexuals that ride Hondas. IMHO the only bike you should be allowed to diss is your own... or a good mate's bike, but only taking the piss.

[McJim]

Honda riders get more crap on here than Harley riders. I don't think any of the guys who ride them (Hondas or Harleys) give a flying f**k though, they love their bike regardless.

Hahaha - not true - I'm selling my honda. I'm sick of Dover and Boomer eyeing up me arse - I want something Italian (that the wife will let me keep which means Monica Belluci is unfortunately out of the question!)

[Skyryder]

Never owned a Triumph then?


Yes A Tiger 100. My first bike. I stand corrected on the Brit bikes.

Skyryder

[Swoop]

Honda riders get more crap on here... I don't think any of the guys who ride them give a flying f**k though,
About what? I don't give a flying f**k! :whistle: :rofl:

they love their bike regardless.
I'd love mine if it fu*kin went! *exits, muttering about honda electronics...*:angry:

[Dodgyiti]

I work with a guy who rides an old Guzzi. Good for him and all that. What I don't understand is why this guy has such hatred for Harleys and Harley riders. He calls them tractors and generally puts them down

:laugh: :woohoo: :laugh:

What a twerp, what does he think the nickname for old Guzzis is?
Yeah- TRACTORS!!
Go to www.thisoldtractor.com
It's official- old Guzzi's are tractors, they sound like them and pull like them and not far off the engineering prowess either.
What sandpit has this guy had his head in?

And that is coming from me- an owner and restorer of an 'old Guzzi'

You need to tune this guy out

[Dodgyiti]

So, does that mean the Thruxton is a Cossie Club racer ? :rofl: :killingme. Oh I'm on form tonight, every one a gem!

Oooh you bitch!

My mate was so rightous, Harley this, made in America that, Jap scrap the other as I had a few Japanese bikes at the time.
Then he asked me to help him split the cases on his Hawg.
Lo and behold, some of the engine internals had 'JAPAN' and TIAWAN stamped on them, he went kinda quiet after that.

[Shadows]

Then he asked me to help him split the cases on his Hawg.
Lo and behold, some of the engine internals had 'JAPAN' and TAIWAN stamped on them, he went kinda quiet after that.

That's just to keep 'em busy so that they can't make quite so many Jappas... :dodge:

[Quartermile]

In reply to the title, cos Hondas are gay and make you a fag, and i don't like fags:yes:

Sorry just had to say it, But Harleys I guess I personally see them as arrogent as they seem to see themselves as above other riders, eg Auckland bike run on the news "They ride Honda-Davidsons which aren't real bikes only harleys are"

[Babelfish]

Hahaha - not true - I'm selling my honda. I'm sick of Dover and Boomer eyeing up me arse - I want something Italian (that the wife will let me keep which means Monica Belluci is unfortunately out of the question!)

Moving from Honda to itallian because you think the KB homo's are eyeing yer arse up is like moving from Brighton to Amsterdam ffs! :buggerd:

The whole honda thing is funny. When I started riding I didnt like the honda image too much...but then I loved the NSR I had while my KR1S was getting sorted out...and at the time a blade was my dream bike...but through all of this I STILL didnt like the honda image! I'm over the whole deal now and love all bikes, especially the vitter I'm riding at the mo. This has also made me look at the history and pedigree of honda, which makes me proud to own one.

My hand is like a teenage lads knob and goes up at every opportunity to wave. I call it my arsehole detector, if someone doesnt wave back, its detected an arsehole and its VERY accurate :spudwave:

[Pixie]

If Harleys were such crap they wouldn't be selling record numbers year by year..

Harleys always sell.
They even sold well when AMF owned Harley and the bikes were really crap.
It's because there are a lot of one eyed yanks and a lot of wannabe's in the rest of the world.
If Indian or Crocker hadn't gone bust,it's doubtful Harley would be at the top of American motorcycles

[johnnyflash]

In reply to the title, cos Hondas are gay and make you a fag, and i don't like fags:yes:

Sorry just had to say it, But Harleys I guess I personally see them as arrogent as they seem to see themselves as above other riders, eg Auckland bike run on the news "They ride Honda-Davidsons which aren't real bikes only harleys are"

lol, must have been the farming reporter, is that like a Massey Fergusson..lol

[Bonez]

Moving from Honda to itallian because you think the KB homo's are eyeing yer arse up is like moving from Brighton to Amsterdam ffs! :buggerd: Still living at home with mum sweetheart?

[Babelfish]

Still living at home with mum sweetheart?

No, figured I'd move in with yours since I'm there often enough

[Bonez]

No, figured I'd move in with yours since I'm there often enoughWondered who my real dad was.

[Toaster]

have a cry... its generally a pisstake. Dont read into things so much, especially if it was spoken around this joint.

People will always tend to prove that they will say what makes them feel bigger/better/cooler (case in point: skidmark). Whether this comes down to arrogance, bias or low IQ is your decision.

I say shit about honda's and cruisers etc all the time, but as the saying goes "dont beat it til you've tried it" - i rode a honda and quite enjoyed it.

Mate, I couldn't agree more. It's a good place for a laugh and a bit of piss-taking. People need to harden up! Maybe spend a bit more time here before writing dribble about how their feelings got hurt because someone noticed they rode a fag's bike.

[jtzzr]

Leave Hondas alone or I`m going to tell on you! :angry:

[bmz2]

like i said before it's the not type of bike you ride, its marketing, but if some riders think the bike they ride is the end all to be all.then they have a problem ,take to prozaks, what ever you ride is cool, you are on two wheels...................but mine is the best lol. So get out of my way you sports bikes, because the 109R is coming through::rockon: you can knock my bike anytime time you like :whocares: what you ride as long as you are happy , be safe and slow down and live longer

[Dodgyiti]

like i said before it's the not type of bike you ride, its marketing

I had to think about that remark for a second or two. The first thought I had was "No, mostly it's racing that sells the majority of bikes, on and off road"

But hang on.. what is racing?

Only the most marketing packed event your eyes and ears can handle.:slap:

[avgas]

"They ride Honda-Davidsons which aren't real bikes only harleys are"
Im completely in agreement with this comment. Its time to move with the times.
Why rate by horses... I propose that you now rate your bike by 'HARLEY-POWER' (HP) not horse power (hp).
Those k7's must be about 4HP these days.

[Quartermile]

Im completely in agreement with this comment. Its time to move with the times.
Why rate by horses... I propose that you now rate your bike by 'HARLEY-POWER' (HP) not horse power (hp).
Those k7's must be about 4HP these days.
Does that mean theyre 4 times faster, better, and overall more superieor:yes:

[Big Dave]

Does that mean theyre 4 times faster, better, and overall more superieor:yes:

at what - going almost 3 times as fast as you are legally allowed to?

Harleys are good at 1 x that.

[Big Dave]

"No, mostly it's racing that sells the majority of bikes, on and off road"\


Price has a lot to do with it too.

[Quartermile]

at what - going almost 3 times as fast as you are legally allowed to?


:shit: your not one of 'them' are you?

[McJim]

[QUOTE=TempBJ;1000241]Moving from Honda to itallian because you think the KB homo's are eyeing yer arse up is like moving from Brighton to Amsterdam ffs! :buggerd:
[QUOTE]
I've been to Brighton and Amsterdam...I preferred Amsterdam so I guess I'll have to get a Ducati on your recommendation - cheers. Do we get free pipes or spliffs with a Ducati?

Seriously though - if Ducati made a Learner bike I'd have had that but they don't so had to get the honda - I've been in love with the sound of Ducatis since I was 14 (22 years) I owe it to myself to get one before I die.

And I wave to everyone on 2 wheels - even cyclists (out of habit)

Why do we feel the need to hate other road users?

[Big Dave]

:shit: your not one of 'them' are you?

I am - yeah. Love 'em on the track. Find them quite frustrating on the road.

i have a very hard time with the temptation and the ease they can get me disqualified.

It's so easy and effortless and joyous to do 150, 200 whatever that I'm always fighting an internal battle.

I'd prefer a 54 horsepower Scrambler and wring its neck for my jollys on the road rather than idling round frustrated at not being able to use 150 ponies.

Sprotsbikes have their place. I spend very little time there. Most road riders are the same.

[Quartermile]

ok, fair call, I did think that you were a speed hippie "shouldn't be allowed to be made" far too dangerous blah blah blah" but your not, but yea fair call

[Hawkeye]

As for waving the funny thing I'm finding these days there are now so many scooters on the road and I wave at them all coz they got two wheels, and do they look surprised when I treat them like a fellow biker.

Now Merv. How can you class a sewing machine as a bike. They don't even have to endure the process of the Graduated Licence System like us real bikers have to. They park wherever they want even if they cause others problems. They raise our ACC costs and have never heard of protective gear.

Now go wash you mouth out with soap Merv :nya: :bleh:

Oh! and to that scooter rider that waved back at me yesterday - It wasn't me, I wasn't there, I was on holiday at the time :whistle:

[Insanity_rules]

Of course harley davidson riders will be in denile about this and honda riders probably will just be annoyed that they never learned to read.

Read? or write or spell or many other things.

Seriously I get it heaps for riding a honda.... until the perpitrator gets the massive learn and a good view of my licence plate for a few k's. Its funny how big a bike I can serve on the mighty 250 LOL.

[Babelfish]

Hey, hey, can we focus on the Harleys? We all know the Honda-phobes hold unjust opinions so lets just keep it real here eh? :done:

[more_fasterer]

So let me get this straight... I own a Honda. My only other bike was a Honda. Does this mean I have to stop having sex with my girlfriend and start hanging out in Ponsonby's more "eclectic" bars?? :shit:


Personally I think that what is taken as "hatred" is often simply an inability to understand other peoples' choices.

I'm guilty of this myself - I can't understand the appeal of riding a bike that weighs upwards of 500kg fully loaded on cross-ply tyres, that has less ground clearance than most skylines on cuttys, can't stop quickly and is out-accelerated by my family sedan. Particularly on our roads with our drivers, where active safety is so important.

Still, doesn't stop me from waving at cruisers, or scooters, or even other sportsbikes for that matter!

[Omega1]

Well, I have a Harley, I like it, I paid for it, I maintain it, so be it, If you think I'm a non waving Hoodlum cum 1%er wannabe whateva, you'll never know...but... you may see me at a track,show,rally someday and hey I'll talk bikes with you....coz that what being a Biker is about....to me anyway.

[Dooly]

Well, I have a Harley, I like it, I paid for it, I maintain it, so be it, If you think I'm a non waving Hoodlum cum 1%er wannabe whateva, you'll never know...but... you may see me at a track,show,rally someday and hey I'll talk bikes with you....coz that what being a Biker is about....to me anyway.

Well said mate.:yes:

All bikes are good.
Except for ones I dont like.:scooter:

[peasea]

Maybe its the shit that comes with those types of bikes...patches and all the unneeded bullshit. Many a times Ive ridden past a biker on a Harley and waved and the rider just looked at me, but then I remembered that Im not cool and he is....also my shit still smells.

I say its the bull shit that buys them that wreaks the image...they make them what they are.

Real men that can drink 3 doz a night ride Harleys.

I ride a Harley and I could never drink 3doz per night; close, but not 3doz. My shit smells too mate, so does my lady's (just quietly) and she rides a Harley also but we're so over the B/S of what kind of bike you ride. You ride, so with that you must have at least SOME great qualities. The only reason I won't wave is if I'm concentrating - in the middle of some important action or other. The rest of the time I wave to all, so does my other half. We have friends with Kawasakis, Suzukis, BMW's and heaps of Triumphs (old and new) can't think of any Honda owners but you get my drift. They aren't mates because of what they ride; they are mates first and foremost.

If you don't like what I ride then that's your problem, not mine. I ride a Harley for its soul, its styling, its history, its sound and it's robust (even agricultural) qualities and simplicty. I fix it myself, I ride it sensibly and within it's capabilities, (and mine) for the most part, and I always stop if someone is on the side of the road, ragardless of their ride.

At fifty, have I got it right yet?

[peasea]

Personally I think that what is taken as "hatred" is often simply an inability to understand other peoples' choices.

On the button!!

[laRIKin]

I can not think of any other bike that can polarises people more than a Harley.

You either love them or hate them there are not that many people that just don't mind them.

When it comes to a Harley, every one has a opinion about them and their riders.

At the end of the day you have to ride what ever puts a smile on YOUR face.

[peasea]

I can not think of any other bike that can polarises people more than a Harley.

You either love them or hate them there are not that many people that just don't mind them.

When it comes to a Harley, every one has a opinion about them and their riders.

At the end of the day you have to ride what ever puts a smile on YOUR face.

That last line?
Amen!

[James Deuce]

Stop asking "why?" and go for a ride.

It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks.

You're all wrong anyway.

[GSX-RJIM]

So what do you fullas think is the most gay bike ever?

[Big Dave]

1990 GSX-R 1100 L :sunny:

[Pwalo]

'Captain America's' chopper in Easy Rider. Although watching the movie again you have got to admire anyone who could wobble their way around a movie set, let alone on the open road. So perhaps not gay, just garish - rather like a mid 90's GSXR 1100.

[Quartermile]

So what do you fullas think is the most gay bike ever?
A bloody harley, hate those things, anyone else feel the same:yes:

[more_fasterer]

So what do you fullas think is the most gay bike ever?

Aprilia moto 6.5!!!

[Pwalo]

Aprilia moto 6.5!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I'd successfully blocked that out of my memory banks. Why, oh why did you mention that unmitigated piece of ..... . It makes the 999 look bloody wonderful.

[orange dog]

3 votes for the Aprillia

[Wasp27]

A bloody harley, hate those things, anyone else feel the same:yes:

I love my Harley.....anything else is a Blow-Up Doll

[enigma51]

So what do you fullas think is the most gay bike ever?


Other than Boomers honda :nya: I would have to say those 50 cc (it might be 125) scooters things that are suppose to look like real bikes you know the once with the fuck off big wheels

[Bonez]

I love my Harley.....anything else is a Blow-Up DollNow that was funny. Some of us use our blow up dolls every day of the week not just for Sundays sojourns to the local brothel.

[Quartermile]

I love my Harley.....anything else is a Blow-Up Doll
I think someone missed the joke:shutup:

[avgas]

Cannondale - i hate them too.
OH and Reliegh.
Those bikes suck.
I've had to many problems fixing em i guess.
Avanti is all good in my books.

[Rashika]

ok, just to get back on topic, tell ya workmate that to ignore nay even dispise Harley riders is to forget that a lot of chicks often ride harleys, (a lot of very attractive and amazing chicks too I might add) and that a match made in heaven can well be made from a Guzzi of good stock and a similar piece of Harley backed motorcycle engineering.
We have such a couple at home here and they are very happy together.
They also get along very well with the yamasuki,the Katana, the Honda, the bitsa and the Elsie. Like may possibly attract like but opposites definately DO attract. :Punk:

[s8306]

In reply to the title, cos Hondas are gay and make you a fag, and i don't like fags:yes:

Sorry just had to say it, But Harleys I guess I personally see them as arrogent as they seem to see themselves as above other riders, eg Auckland bike run on the news "They ride Honda-Davidsons which aren't real bikes only harleys are"

Can you explain how a piece of machinery has the ability to be arrogant.

[Ixion]

Dunno HOW he manages it, but I'll introduce you to ReichsMotorraden Herr Uberfarter von Klunken, and you can see for yourself.

[Quartermile]

Can you explain how a piece of machinery has the ability to be arrogant.
I'm sorry I didn't get my grammar or whatever abolutely 100% correct, please don't hurt me.

I think I found something/someone else who might be arrogent :rolleyes::whistle:

[Krusti]

So what do you fullas think is the most gay bike ever?

1990 BMW K-1 :sick:

[scumdog]

A bloody harley, hate those things, anyone else feel the same:yes:

Ah, obviously a discerning person who has ridden quite few Harleys and can make an informed and sound judgement eh?:wait:

[dangerous]

Hi All,

Just something that has been bothering me for a while.

I work with a guy who rides an old Guzzi. Good for him and all that. What I don't understand is why this guy has such hatred for Harleys and Harley riders. He calls them tractors and generally puts them down at any opportunity (I was reading a bike mag article on the new Harley range and he nearly went bananas). I get the friendly ribbing in here ("when are you going to get a proper bike, you Fag" etc) but this goes further.

Mully

To start with I have only read this post and none of the replys so remembering that here we go...

As a general rule you cant get to bigger different a groups that are so alike.
The Guzzi following are a very social group that love their bikes and mates, however they love to enjoy all bikes and ther riders, the Guzzi owner will chat to anyone and every one... but then you get to the Hog riders, they lover their bikes and only their bikes (and themselves) they do not like asocating with other bikes exspecialy jappers, eg: even on my Guzzi very few wave back its just the hole HD attude thing.

So, this sorta tells me your mate shouldnty have a Guzzi, at the end of the day the MG and HD are a very similer bike and atract similer people, pitty the HD attude is so far up their arse thy cant enjoy out siders company.

Having said that I find BMW riders to be bigger poofters than the HD riders, and in both cases I know and ride with both brands of bikes and they all rock by me.

Now remember I was generlizing with this post.

[scumdog]

To start with I have only read this post and none of the replys so remembering that here we go...

pitty the HD attude is so far up their arse thy cant enjoy out siders company.

Having said that I find BMW riders to be bigger poofters than the HD riders, and in both cases I know and ride with both brands of bikes and they all rock by me.

Now remember I was generlizing with this post.

Whatchoo talkin' about Willis??

I haven't got enough time to be 'up my arse' let alone worry about what bike another joker (or sheila) rides.:yes:

MY attitude: "It's not their ride - it's the person astride." (that counts)

Probably letting down some of the stereo-typical HD types though....

[dangerous]

Whatchoo talkin' about Willis??

I haven't got enough time to be 'up my arse' let alone worry about what bike another joker (or sheila) rides.:yes:

MY attitude: "It's not their ride - it's the person astride." (that counts)

Probably letting down some of the stereo-typical HD types though....

Like I said I was generalising its a typical suituation where the minority spoil it for the majority.

[Quartermile]

Ah, obviously a discerning person who has ridden quite few Harleys and can make an informed and sound judgement eh?:wait:

Oh another one that might have missed the joke:D

[Waylander]

Oh another one that might have missed the joke:D
Quite stirring Quarterbike.:innocent:

[Shadows]

Quite stirring Quarterbike.:innocent:

Bwahahahaha bling awarded

[dmouse]

our main HD dealer here in christchurch is also a guzzi dealer and other bikes so i dont see what the problem is, i ride with the HOG club socialy every week and we have jappas and other makes of bikes with us all the time. i was at one time one eyed and all that floated my boat was british bikes specialy triumph, and they were as about one eyed as every other bike maker look at any bike book on the early days on bike racing in the usa and and it was the triumph that was winning all the major events, i have had loads of bikes over the years and i now ride a harley because it suits me and i have neck problems from binns way back so the sat up easy style suits me, i have had and raced jap bikes in the uk semi pro and find all bikes interesting i ride in all black my plate is REBL because i have allways been a rebel from way back but im not a gang member i dont drink at all cept orange juice and i wave or nod to all bikers as they are family, infact i was sat on the side of the road one day havin a smoke and a rather tasty chick stopped on a suzuki and asked if all was well, and it really made my day. all i can say if you ride and dont wave or nod your either too busy lookin at traffic or changing gear or up your own arse coz you dont ride the same type of bike, we all have our own reason for picking what we ride its wonderfull too have so much choice i thank god that we have choice as these pricks would have no one to pickon would they my 10c worth !!!!

[bmz2]

this thread seems to be going on and on ,this how wars got started lol, but if the laws regarding advertising were changed, that is when you would really see hatred toward other bikes,HD would lead, followed by triumph, the battle over who is the true rebble bike and biker, this is a catch 22 thread, it is the same as ford vs holden, they as good as each other, so are bikes , ride what you like and be happy, some one does not like the the bike you ride then they have the problem not you .

[s8306]

I'm sorry I didn't get my grammar or whatever abolutely 100% correct, please don't hurt me.

I think I found something/someone else who might be arrogent :rolleyes::whistle:

Mate, the best advice i can offer you at this stage would be to remove your hand which would appear to be tightly wraped around your penis and grow up.

[Quartermile]

Mate, the best advice i can offer you at this stage would be to remove your hand which would appear to be tightly wraped around your penis and grow up.

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
You haven't been here long have you, oh wait I can feel annother lame but angry comeback, Grrrrrrr :rofl:

[dmouse]

true yes a bike is a bike at the end of the day, what you choose to ride and enjoy after all its your money that you spend to buy the bike of your choice so why should other people try to belittle you for your ride because they think there bike is better in anyway than yous, because the cylinders are a different shape of configuration as long as it goes and is reliable dont leave oil all over the road and is well maintained what the hell, its a bike at the end of the day just enjoy your ride and if someone looks at you funny maybe they have a fly in there eye or the shit it left behind life is short take each day as it comes and most of all enjoy it there will allways be a prick to trying to put you down for some reason because there life sucks. thats 20c now !!!

[skidMark]

i hate hondas , because it's a waste of the planets resources to build one,

all the energy and metal, just to make a honda i mean why bother :P

[skidMark]

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
You haven't been here long have you, oh wait I can feel annother lame but angry comeback, Grrrrrrr :rofl:

dude u just got totally uber pwned

[DMNTD]

"Why such hatred for other bike types?"
....cause there's insecure fuck knuckles everywhere that seem to be only able to feel good about themselves when the belittle others...:done:

[skidMark]

Quite stirring Quarterbike.:innocent:


ahahahahah ur right too , green rep given

[skidMark]

"Why such hatred for other bike types?"
....cause there's insecure fuck knuckles everywhere that seem to be only able to feel good about themselves when the belittle others...:done:

your shiny new zx10 makes my scooter insecure about it's small penis.

[Deano]

In reply to the title, cos Hondas are gay and make you a fag, and i don't like fags:yes:


Has the "Honda Fag" label come over from the boy racer scene ?

That was what I heard anyway.

Quartermile - four stroke 250's wanting to be a real sportsbike are for fags, not Honda's - but you'll get there one day boy.

[Quartermile]

Has the "Honda Fag" label come over from the boy racer scene ?

That was what I heard anyway.

Quartermile - four stroke 250's wanting to be a real sportsbike are for fags, not Honda's - but you'll get there one day boy.

I know :crybaby: I just gotta keep telling myself that :yes:

[Babelfish]

"Why such hatred for other bike types?"
....cause there's insecure fuck knuckles everywhere that seem to be only able to feel good about themselves when the belittle others...:done:

god you're gay

[DMNTD]

god you're gay
...oh I feel oh so belittled :Punk:

[Deano]

god you're gay

Coming from a Honda rider ?

And is it gay or ghey ?

Oh can't we just all get along.....:whocares:

[cowpoos]

Coming from a Honda rider ?

And is it gay or ghey ?

Oh can't we just all get along.....:whocares:
I love you man!!!

[dragonz]

Reality is if it has 2 wheels & a motor it's all good! (also includes trikes & quads, cos they have handle-bars too)
We need to be united, cos there is a steady & unrelenting push to ban motorcycles, all motorcycles, wherever they are made, whoever they are made by!

Motorcycling is too much fun to let the bureaucrats take it away from us!

so stop bickering about what you ride, & get on with keeping access to ride it at all!!

[Quartermile]

Reality is if it has 2 wheels & a motor it's all good! (also includes trikes & quads, cos they have handle-bars too)
We need to be united, cos there is a steady & unrelenting push to ban motorcycles, all motorcycles, wherever they are made, whoever they are made by!

Motorcycling is too much fun to let the bureaucrats take it away from us!

so stop bickering about what you ride, & get on with keeping access to ride it at all!!
Yea agreed, except ban the; Hondas, Harleys(and similar) and Scooters :yes:

[BigG]

Went for a ride monday, flying down HW50 I see a huge Harley parked up, it was a nice looking bike then I saw what seemed to be a stranded Lady so I hit the ankers and slowed down to see if they were alright, I got the one finger salute...F... I thought droped 2 gears and roared off, nice ride tough:whocares:

[mstriumph]

Hey - i'm not prejudiced ....... i rode a '72 triumph bonne for years .... and i STILL have the Honda - how openminded is THAT?!

[Bonez]

Hey - i'm not prejudiced ....... i rode a '72 triumph bonne for years .... and i STILL have the Honda - how openminded is THAT?!Nice folk, those Honda owners :hug:

[skidMark]

Reality is if it has 2 wheels & a motor it's all good! (also includes trikes & quads, cos they have handle-bars too)
We need to be united, cos there is a steady & unrelenting push to ban motorcycles, all motorcycles, wherever they are made, whoever they are made by!

Motorcycling is too much fun to let the bureaucrats take it away from us!

so stop bickering about what you ride, & get on with keeping access to ride it at all!!

lets see them take em away worse comes to worst , i'd have no plate if the banned bikes,

bwoooop, ooo look a walkway....


bwooopp, bwarp bwarppppppp bwarppppppppppp bwarpppppppppp bwarpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp bwarpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp p

weve lost him.

[cowpoos]

Quite stirring Quarterbike.:innocent:
go back to canada