Simple lap timer

[skelstar]

I have nearly completed a prototype of a very simple lap-timer...and I need your help to workout some desirable features.

I don't really want to discuss the merits of automatic lap-timers and more complex solutions...this is purely a box with a display, and a button. All I want to do now is sort out the software/features for it.

I plan to chuck a unit or two at some racers to help them out in the VMCC this year, not looking at making stacks of cash eh?

Design Concept:
A simple box with an internal battery and one external switch. The racer/rider rides around a track, pushes a button on the handlebars (mounted somewhere convenient), the unit will display the elapsed time since you last pushed the button. Presumably you are going to select somewhere on the track that is not considered a busy section (front straight/pit straight). SO ideally its to give immediate feedback to how fast you're going while you're out there on the bike.

So this is the hardware design:

The unit will be quite small, probably not 100% waterproof, will have a 4 digit display that shows time down to 0.1s. The image below gives you an indication of the type of display (x4).
The box will mount in under your screen, and there will be a switch that remotely mounts near your 'trigger finger'. I was thinking that I want a fairly universal mount for the switch (see pic) and am considering using the brake/clutch lever and a hose-clip (see pic).
I think I'll have the unit run off a 9v battery...means we can move it around bikes without having to wire to bike batteries.
There will be a reset button on the case/unit itself...and an LED that shows you some sort of status about your lap (to be discussed).


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Software:
This is how I see the product working at the moment. I'm kinda guessing what would be useful immediate feedback for the rider while trying to appreciate the amount of time you guys have etc.


When you roll out on the track your display will show [0:00.0] or something. On the start of your first proper lap you will push the lap button [LAP] at a certain point on the track. I think that you would have the display showing the time counting up (reassurance).
...as you cross your trigger point you push [LAP] again. The display will show you the time elapsed since you last pushed [LAP]. Maybe [1:18.4]?
The display will show [1:18.4] for most of the remaining lap. Now I think that as you approach [1:18.4] the display might count down to your fastest lap time so far (obv [1:18.4] at the moment). Depending on the circuit and trigger point, you might have enough time to do this.
If your new lap was faster than your fastest lap I think I will have a bright LED flashing on the unit under your screen (next to display).
Optional: I could have the new lap-time shown as a difference in time from your fastest lap ie [0:04.3] (flashing LED would indicate a negative difference).
Reset button would reset the stored 'fastest lap'.


So, what do you think? I don't want to know how many people are interested in having one (I have enough to make already), I'll have a stab at getting it right, then maybe offer them for sale. I can't add data-logging and laptop integration features etc...but I can do trick things with the existing hardware/design.

Appreciate any help. If I can make them real good, then some racers get some good units to use. Cheers!

[Drew]

Sounds spot on to me bro. The counting down as you aproach your previous time would distract me, and probably have me hitting the button a bit soon, but the rest sounds good.

As for the button, it might be easier to use the horn button, just take the wires off the horn, and plug your gizmo into them. Although, that would try and feed 12 volts back through the timer, so maybe not such a great idea without a relay of some discription.

[JayRacer37]

Shaun, I'd be keen to help you with this. I wouldnt worry about the countdown, you cant watch it anyway. if when you push LAP it displays the lap time for say...20-30s?? then counts you through the rest of your lap? can you rig trigger up to horn button? LED to signify fastest is good idea.
If your keen to work through it with me i should have a bike thru winter series you can use with me on it to work with??? PM me if ya want :D

[skelstar]

Like the distraction point. Valid I think. I want it to be a case of clipping a couple of cable-ties and you can move it to another bike in under 3mins...the horn could be done, but would rather a universal/non-modification solution.

[Drew]

If your keen to work through it with me i should have a bike thru winter series you can use with me on it to work with??? PM me if ya want :D

Piss off young fella, your lap times are an embarrasment to the rest of us already! He can mount it on my bike, because...well...COS I FUCKIN WANT IT!!!

[skelstar]

Jay: I guess on a bike like yours the horn switch wouldn't be a problem. The horn switch would be wired up similar to how my switch would be anyway.

Let me get this done and I'll throw one at you too. Maybe put one on ya road bike some weekend. Cool?

[Drew]

Like the distraction point. Valid I think. I want it to be a case of clipping a couple of cable-ties and you can move it to another bike in under 3mins...the horn could be done, but would rather a universal/non-modification solution.

I've never seen a horn with anything other than a pair of flat female spade conectors, but mounting a button would be ok. Problem with it could be, that the switch gear would need to be removed to put it the right spot, so more work for those of us using our road bikes. Sod all maybe, but I am a lazy bastard.

[skelstar]

Was thinking that someone who thinks they're 'fast' in F1 can 'share' a unit with someone doing the hard graft in F3 ;)...if the swap over is SUPER easy, then it shouldn't be too much of an issue eh?

[Drew]

Was thinking that someone who thinks they're 'fast' in F1 can 'share' a unit with someone doing the hard graft in F3 ;)...if the swap over is SUPER easy, then it shouldn't be too much of an issue eh?
Take my name off the want list for the first one, I'm no good at sharing toys.

Two buttons then, one for each bike, that way there is no mount to remove.

[skelstar]

Yeah, maybe an inline headphone connector or something? Hmm..

[JayRacer37]

Jay: I guess on a bike like yours the horn switch wouldn't be a problem. The horn switch would be wired up similar to how my switch would be anyway.

Let me get this done and I'll throw one at you too. Maybe put one on ya road bike some weekend. Cool?

Yea sounds good. we will have to set up a road 'lap' then :D
but the WarPig...you havn't seen that......:S
IF you want to work on it at the track, I should have at least one 600 at the winter series rounds. can work on positioning of the button for the easy on and of if you want. then me n fizzer can compare lap times...:D
Sounds like an AWESOME idea....

[skelstar]

Nah, I've seen the 'pig at the sprints.

I'll get a switch and make a little mini bracket that will clamp to a brake lever. I can test that on my hack...but I have to sort the software out first.

[White trash]

Dunno what the hell Cheezle McJay and Fizzybum are talking about.

A nine volt battery wont last long enough for either of those poofs to actually complete a whole lap.

[Drew]

easy on and of if you want. then me n fizzer can compare lap times...:D
Sounds like an AWESOME idea....

Yours will be LAP times, they will compare to my CRAP times, so I dont like this Idea too much.

[JayRacer37]

Yeah, maybe an inline headphone connector or something? Hmm..

Even just put a wire on to the back of the horn button and remove from 12V system, then put a quck snap line break in, then the same on your buttons and then on whatever other bikes and buttons it could be going on...that way on and off easy, but still hard mounted to each bike...
How will you affix LCD display, and LED best lap light?

[skelstar]

Will be in a little plastic box. Might have strategically placed holes for cable-ties. Maybe a clear plastic box so I dont have to cut holes for displays to show through.

[JayRacer37]

Dunno what the hell Cheezle McJay and Fizzybum are talking about.

A nine volt battery wont last long enough for either of those poofs to actually complete a whole lap.

Bring it trashy...a bit more LYNX and i'll have you on your arse. Best watch where your beer gets poured though :S

[White trash]

Ummmm, I find it best to tell you young fella (now that we're seperated by six hundred odd kays) that Fizzerhomo didn'tknow what the hell he was talking about. There was no beer in there.

Hope you washed your jeans when ya got home :D

[White trash]

Will be in a little plastic box. Might have strategically placed holes for cable-ties. Maybe a clear plastic box so I dont have to cut holes for displays to show through.
That sounds waterproof in itself. It's not like they're going on jetskis.

Although, don't mount it too close to Ducati exhausts......

[skelstar]

That sounds waterproof in itself. It's not like they're going on jetskis.

Although, don't mount it too close to Ducati exhausts......

Yeah, the boxes I've looked at so far have been IP rated. Besides the guys I'll be flicking them too probably don't ride in the wet anyway.

Not sure they'll be IP rated for ammonia anyway...

[JayRacer37]

Ummmm, I find it best to tell you young fella (now that we're seperated by six hundred odd kays) that Fizzerhomo didn'tknow what the hell he was talking about. There was no beer in there.

Hope you washed your jeans when ya got home :D

More like hope Fizzer washed his hand.....and his kids....

[skelstar]

Ahem...FIZZ makes a good point (by PM) that the pass-switch might be a good [LAP] button.




WOO HOO 5000 posts!

[R6_kid]

semi-off tangent.... MotoGP 2003 (game) has a blue helmet for improved section, red for slower, grey for close to... why not have a green light to say you did better, red to say you did worse.

i'd be keen for one.

[skelstar]

Flashing led on box would indicate fastest lap. Solid indicates slower.

[skelstar]

What about:
You cross your 'line' display chsows lap-time for 10secs, then shows the difference between your last lap time and fastest lap time for the remainder of the lap?

[Drew]

Back on topic now, so long as the button isn't gonna get nudged unintentionally, and is easy to push when required, whatever is easiest to build would do nicely.

BTW, if Flame post in here, tell her to piss off, she's already got a lap gadget on her bike, although, it's beyond comprehension as to how the bloody thing works.

[skelstar]

...it's beyond comprehension as to how the bloody thing works.
I think I might have broken it trying to get it working. Don't say anything.

[JayRacer37]

What about:
You cross your 'line' display chsows lap-time for 10secs, then shows the difference between your last lap time and fastest lap time for the remainder of the lap?

If it shows lap time for 10s, then goes to just counting up, you can use that to get a reference. say coming out of the harpin i was 24s into one lap then the next im 25s in..i know to come inot the pits cause ive blown the lap.

[Drew]

More like hope Fizzer washed his hand.....and his kids....

I showered with bleach bro, the kids were made to stand clear anyway, kids going home stinking of piss, (either way you want to take the meaning of the word), would not go down well with thier mother.

[skelstar]

...so long as the button isn't gonna get nudged unintentionally...
What about you have to hold the switch in for 1-2secs? Would trigger on you pushing it in (not releasing), and means you can abort the triggering if you fucked up or bumped it.

[R6_kid]

hmmm... this would make it a bit less simple, but if you could setup one of those push bike speedo things on to it to measure the distance, you setup track distance as one push of button to next push at the start of your session. this way it is within 10m or so of the actual distance. From then on computer tells you how long it takes you to cover that distance... no pushing buttons til you want it to stop.

[skelstar]

If it shows lap time for 10s, then goes to just counting up...
Yeah thats quite doable. I wonder if you can watch the time as you come to/cross your trigger point, would you forget to pull the trigger? You can already see your time after all?

[Drew]

A display of the last completed lap for twenty seconds is all it needs. The pilot will quickly know if was good, bad, or indifferent.

[JayRacer37]

What about you have to hold the switch in for 1-2secs? Would trigger on you pushing it in (not releasing), and means you can abort the triggering if you fucked up or bumped it.

Would be getting a long time to think about it.....maybe half a sec
i would want it on horn. much easier to get thumb that top finger in full tuck.

[Drew]

hmmm... this would make it a bit less simple, but if you could setup one of those push bike speedo things on to it to measure the distance, you setup track distance as one push of button to next push at the start of your session. this way it is within 10m or so of the actual distance. From then on computer tells you how long it takes you to cover that distance... no pushing buttons til you want it to stop.


Not too good methinks, given different lines, due to overtaking or cock ups, the distance could be quite a long way off. And at the track, fast guys work in tenths of a second, so it would be quite inacurate.

[skelstar]

hmmm... this would make it a bit less simple, but if you could setup one of those push bike speedo things on to it to measure the distance, you setup track distance as one push of button to next push at the start of your session. this way it is within 10m or so of the actual distance. From then on computer tells you how long it takes you to cover that distance... no pushing buttons til you want it to stop.

Thats a pretty damn good idea G. Will have to think about that...

[JayRacer37]

Yeah thats quite doable. I wonder if you can watch the time as you come to/cross your trigger point, would you forget to pull the trigger? You can already see your time after all?

U'd remember to hit the button to start the next one...
and if it displays for 10ish sec u can button it without watching just it, say if your in a group, then look when its safe to.

[Dafe]

I thought a lap timer would just be a countdown for the number of songs you paid for???

I know four or five isn't many, but it's easy to lose count!

[skelstar]

Well...someone give me distance/laptime stats for a track? 1:18 on puke for what distance?

[JayRacer37]

Thats a pretty damn good idea G. Will have to think about that...

yea if you could make it no push too......:yes:

[skelstar]

I thought a lap timer would just be a countdown for the number of songs you paid for???

You racing this year Dafe?

[JayRacer37]

Well...someone give me distance/laptime stats for a track? 1:18 on puke for what distance?

uhh...3.3ish KM for manfeild, with a 1.09.2 lap.

[skelstar]

Shit do I have to do maths now?

3300kms with a 10m difference is 0.3% difference. Thats a 0.2sec error.

Someone check for me please?

I'm wondering if a bike computer hall effect thingy would make much more expensive?

[JayRacer37]

Shit do I have to do maths now?

3300kms with a 10m difference is 0.3% difference. Thats a 0.2sec error.

Someone check for me please?

I'm wondering if a bike computer hall effect thingy would make much more expensive?

Honestly, a .5s hold push on a horn button timed from the first touch on that button would be quite managable.

[Marmoot]

I can't add data-logging and laptop integration features etc...but I can do trick things with the existing hardware/design.


Just add a volatile memory unit, such as push/pop registers with capacity for 30 laps that can be displayed as long as the power is still on.

I'm sure this concept is not too hard to implement.

[skelstar]

Honestly, a .5s hold push on a horn button timed from the first touch on that button would be quite managable.

Yeah, just like the 'no button' idea. I'm sure that a racer is going to be 0.2s out with their button-push too...

Seems you can get a bicycle computer for about $20 online.

[skelstar]

Just add a volatile memory unit, such as push/pop registers with capacity for 30 laps that can be displayed as long as the power is still on.

I'm sure this concept is not too hard to implement.

Well...its a prob with the chip I'm using. Its a PSoc device, friggin quick to program and fiddle with. Otherwise it would be a PIC. I don't really want to stuff around with a non-simple-as UI anyway. Buttons everywhere..."which lap am I looking at?". Besides you can get printouts after you race from the officials if you're running with a transponder.

[JayRacer37]

Yeah, just like the 'no button' idea. I'm sure that a racer is going to be 0.2s out with their button-push too...

Seems you can get a bicycle computer for about $20 online.

id b right with th button
i know i can be tottaly accurate. and i wouldnt want to have the magnet and speedo and stuff on the race bike
is the $20 unit guna be able to read at 280km/h??
honsestly, i can be as accurate all but on a stopwatch compared to tracktiming, from next to the track, riding over the same point lap after lap on the bike, runnning over a line or whatever and hitting the button on that mark isn't going to pose a problem.

[skelstar]

Fair enough. Was wondering about fixing the speedo stuff on it too...didn't think about the max-speed issue, but Im sure that people use them as speedos for WOF time.

[Marmoot]

Besides you can get printouts after you race from the officials if you're running with a transponder.

From my understanding, most trackday organizers nowadays are reluctant to run any timing device since it invalidates insurance covers.

I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in your lap timer device if it has memory.

Just wire the button as a clock that pushes the record into the memory/register.

The complicated thing would be to figure out how to retrieve the data, but this would be something simple enough to be talked over a beer night in the pub.

[skelstar]

Trust me I know how to do it, but am keeping this simple as its my time that is the biggest factor and I have lots of other things I should be doing. Cheers :niceone:

[White trash]

Well if your time's so fricken valuable, I feel honoured to have wasted so much of it on Friday night. :D

[Deano]

I like it. Would prefer the button to be on the left handlebar, cause the left thumb ain't doing anything else down the straights.

I wouldn't worry about the countdown as you get close to your previous best time, or showing the difference between the previous and last lap times.

Simply show the lap time for 10 seconds or so, then start counting up until you hit the button again.

[skelstar]

I like it. Would prefer the button to be on the left handlebar, cause the left thumb ain't doing anything else down the straights.
Hmmm...I'm sure if you were racing a Suzuki your left-hand will be busy down the straights...

Cheers all for the suggestions. Its quite likely that I'll have the software done today (once I fix some tyre-warmers) and will move on to making up the hardware.

[cowpoos]

I have nearly completed a prototype of a very simple lap-timer...and I need your help to workout some desirable features.

I don't really want to discuss the merits of automatic lap-timers and more complex solutions...this is purely a box with a display, and a button. All I want to do now is sort out the software/features for it.

I plan to chuck a unit or two at some racers to help them out in the VMCC this year, not looking at making stacks of cash eh?

Design Concept:
A simple box with an internal battery and one external switch. The racer/rider rides around a track, pushes a button on the handlebars (mounted somewhere convenient), the unit will display the elapsed time since you last pushed the button. Presumably you are going to select somewhere on the track that is not considered a busy section (front straight/pit straight). SO ideally its to give immediate feedback to how fast you're going while you're out there on the bike.

So this is the hardware design:

The unit will be quite small, probably not 100% waterproof, will have a 4 digit display that shows time down to 0.1s. The image below gives you an indication of the type of display (x4).
The box will mount in under your screen, and there will be a switch that remotely mounts near your 'trigger finger'. I was thinking that I want a fairly universal mount for the switch (see pic) and am considering using the brake/clutch lever and a hose-clip (see pic).
I think I'll have the unit run off a 9v battery...means we can move it around bikes without having to wire to bike batteries.
There will be a reset button on the case/unit itself...and an LED that shows you some sort of status about your lap (to be discussed).


<img height="150px" src="http://nz.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/42247357.jpg"> <img height="150px" src="http://nz.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/42255954.jpg"> <img height="150px" src="http://www.tool-net.co.uk/data/tools/cljuboo1234zp.jpg">

Software:
This is how I see the product working at the moment. I'm kinda guessing what would be useful immediate feedback for the rider while trying to appreciate the amount of time you guys have etc.


When you roll out on the track your display will show [0:00.0] or something. On the start of your first proper lap you will push the lap button [LAP] at a certain point on the track. I think that you would have the display showing the time counting up (reassurance).
...as you cross your trigger point you push [LAP] again. The display will show you the time elapsed since you last pushed [LAP]. Maybe [1:18.4]?
The display will show [1:18.4] for most of the remaining lap. Now I think that as you approach [1:18.4] the display might count down to your fastest lap time so far (obv [1:18.4] at the moment). Depending on the circuit and trigger point, you might have enough time to do this.
If your new lap was faster than your fastest lap I think I will have a bright LED flashing on the unit under your screen (next to display).
Optional: I could have the new lap-time shown as a difference in time from your fastest lap ie [0:04.3] (flashing LED would indicate a negative difference).
Reset button would reset the stored 'fastest lap'.


So, what do you think? I don't want to know how many people are interested in having one (I have enough to make already), I'll have a stab at getting it right, then maybe offer them for sale. I can't add data-logging and laptop integration features etc...but I can do trick things with the existing hardware/design.

Appreciate any help. If I can make them real good, then some racers get some good units to use. Cheers!
need it crash tested??

[R6_kid]

need it crash tested??

i thought texmo gave up on racing?

[cowpoos]

i thought texmo gave up on racing?
bwahahahahahaha!!!!! but seriously....tex wasn't that bad... he is pretty quick on a track!

[Ivan]

I know the push bike ones read up to 999 kph


I have one

[skelstar]

I have hit a bit of a snag with the display in the box. I might have to go with one of these types (16ch x 2lines):
<img src="http://nz.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/2631678.jpg">

At least this will give me a few more options for displaying data. For example:


|----------------|
|Last Lap 1:18.4 |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

or...



|----------------|
|Last Lap +1.4s |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

[Drew]

I have hit a bit of a snag with the display in the box. I might have to go with one of these types (16ch x 2lines):


At least this will give me a few more options for displaying data. For example:


|----------------|
|Last Lap 1:18.4 |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

or...



|----------------|
|Last Lap +1.4s |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

That looks like the shiz to me bro, can ya get 'em fairly cheap?

[skelstar]

That looks like the shiz to me bro, can ya get 'em fairly cheap?

The displays? Hmm...maybe about $20. If I steal the work's ones then $0 but the chars are a little smaller. Might just have to make the first one and see what they're like.

[Ivan]

THat looks good aye at a trackday


Get to 1:12 on the 125 and the button :rockon:

[JayRacer37]

I have hit a bit of a snag with the display in the box. I might have to go with one of these types (16ch x 2lines):
<img src="http://nz.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/2631678.jpg">

At least this will give me a few more options for displaying data. For example:


|----------------|
|Last Lap 1:18.4 |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

or...



|----------------|
|Last Lap +1.4s |
|Fastest 1:16.3 |
|----------------|

That'd be ok, so long as charicters didn't get to small. I think thats the displays we use at work.

The top example would suit me better, trying to figure out hat the lap was of diffrence seems a bit challenging mid qualifying session....

[Drew]

That'd be ok, so long as charicters didn't get to small. I think thats the displays we use at work.

The top example would suit me better, trying to figure out hat the lap was of diffrence seems a bit challenging mid qualifying session....

Yeah, but it dont take sod all to confuse you Kapati lads, the rest of us who have time to contemplate the meaning of life during a lap, should have no hassles at all.

I'm trying a new tactic here, get a dig into someone else, then steel any thunder thier retort might have, by paying myself out aswell:yes:

[JayRacer37]

Yeah, but it dont take sod all to confuse you Kapati lads, the rest of us who have time to contemplate the meaning of life during a lap, should have no hassles at all.

I'm trying a new tactic here, get a dig into someone else, then steel any thunder thier retort might have, by paying myself out aswell:yes:

Yea us kapiti lads don't have time to think cause we have used all we got going fast...whereas you not sure how to use it all so u got time to do maths...back to th bourbons ol' man....:D

[skelstar]

Hmmm...the display is kinda small Jay. The viewable area is 64mm x 16mm, thats 16 chars x 2 lines. Hmmm...got some trick info on the two lines though...Last_Lap, Fastest_Lap and a split time (next to fastest lap). The demo/prototype unit has a display that measures much bigger (99mm wide viewing area). The display of that size that I can get is quite cheap ($11), but is only one line. Not sure thats too much of a problem. Might just have to rotate the info around a little.

So...can you guys handle having a box that measures about 125mm x 50mm big in your top-yoke area (ooer)?

[skelstar]

You guys think a buzzer that goes off about 3 secs before your fastest lap is useful as a reminder? Maybe I'll make the 'Fastest Lap' LED a big bright fucker, and have that flashing 5 secs before the fastest lap...

[Keystone19]

You guys think a buzzer that goes off about 3 secs before your fastest lap is useful as a reminder? Maybe I'll make the 'Fastest Lap' LED a big bright fucker, and have that flashing 5 secs before the fastest lap...

Ummm...how will it know 3 seconds before you do your fastest lap?

Can you bring along some demos Tuesday?

[skelstar]

Kinda meant 3 secs before your fastest so far I guess.

Yeah can demo on Tues.

[Drew]

You guys think a buzzer that goes off about 3 secs before your fastest lap is useful as a reminder? Maybe I'll make the 'Fastest Lap' LED a big bright fucker, and have that flashing 5 secs before the fastest lap...

The buzzer would be drowned out by engine noise methinks. And loud enough to be heard over it would be a touch scary for the first few times it went off.

Mind you, my times have got enough room for improvement, that I could put off hearing it for five laps, had I the skill of course, so a slightly mute point:bye:

[scrivy]

With 1 of these units Fizzerman, you could see how long your wheelies go for?......

[skelstar]

Hmmm...much use for a lap-counter function on one of these guys?

[Drew]

With 1 of these units Fizzerman, you could see how long your wheelies go for?......

Dunno if I'd get time to hit the button twice during one wheelie, it'd have to be one of those super elite Scared sheep squadron types for that.

[cowpoos]

skel....ummm....would in not be just a shit load easyier to get some cheap stopwatches and wire a remote switch into it??

[skelstar]

Displays too small, won't give you time differentials etc.

Let me know how you go with your stop watches poos. Hows that ?PS idea coming along?

[Drew]

skel....ummm....would in not be just a shit load easyier to get some cheap stopwatches and wire a remote switch into it??

You can get them with a remote switch already, but when did you last see a cheap stopwatch, and would it stand up to a rough track. Or tyre wall breaking assister for that matter.

[cowpoos]

Displays too small, won't give you time differentials etc.

Let me know how you go with your stop watches poos.

was just a thought... :)



Hows that ?PS idea coming along?

still just an Idea....I need to learn more about ?p? units....etc

[lealand]

Hi
Just been reading the guff on the lap counter how the project going any progress yet

Thanks Bevin

[skelstar]

LOL... to be honest I was thinking about this again just today as I'll be on the track myself. I kinda gave up for a bit, might revisit again soon.

[Tim 39]

if you're looking for a lap timer, we have two different types for sale... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=56023

[Kendog]

LOL... to be honest I was thinking about this again just today as I'll be on the track myself. I kinda gave up for a bit, might revisit again soon.

When, is there a track day coming up?
You going to race next year?

[skelstar]

Going to race on the 28th of this month (Taupo RRSpec)... theres a track day the day before that Nige ;)

[lealand]

Hows the project going ? im keen

[Drew]

Hows the project going ? im keen

Yeah Sean, you've got plenty of time on your hands now, and I know your soldering arms aint damaged.:Pokey:

[skelstar]

Keen to have my legs healing and to learn to walk again so pretty much everything is on the back burner for a while.

[lealand]

Bugger nothing to do with motorbike I hope ;-(

[skelstar]

Bugger nothing to do with motorbike I hope ;-(
Yeah, rather comprehensively unfortunately :)