zapf photo ripoff

[Quasievil]

I ordered Some photos from ZAPF back in Novemeber at the Kiwibiker trackday, I paid for them way back then and still 5-6 MONTHS later I still havent got them despite repeated requests.
Im interested to know who else has paid this prick money for photos and has never recieved them.
Im basically taking this guys ripoff scheme to a higher authority and I am interested to hear from other victims of his little scheme
Comments appreciated

[R6_kid]

He's a nice guy so im suprised this has happened at all. Hope it all comes to an end with no naked pics being posted in retribution :gob:

[limbimtimwim]

Mistakes happen.

[scracha]

Yep, mistakes happen. But if Quasi has repeatedly requested the photo's then he should have been given his money back or given the photos. In fact, after 6 months he should be given a refund AND the photos. I know I do freebies for customers if I miss appointments etc. Kiwi customer service at it's best.

[jumma]

i'm used to it being the other way round, sending out the photos and waiting weeks for a cheque to arrive.

Sometimes I may get slack if it's the other way round but after repeated requests eventually get round to doing what is asked of me.

Hope they turn up soon Quasi

[White trash]

Hey Quas, are you after prints or electronic images?

I can lend you some nice ones of me on my bike if that'll help.

[Quasievil]

I only am posting this because Im not the only one at its not on at all.
ZAPF pull your finger out

[El Dopa]

Well, this makes at least three of us.

I paid for hardcopies and electronic copies. I have only received the electronic ones.

Despite several reminder e-mails, I have not had a reply. Nothing to tell me I got it mixed up and I was wrong, nothing to say that they were on the way, nothing to say that there would be a bit of a delay cos he was busy.

That isn't a mistake.

I know at least one other person who has has the same experience.

Zapf, what's the story?

[Chickadee]

McJim got all his photos in time.

[McJim]

McJim got all his photos in time.

Yep sorry that was me typing - wrong log in.

I got my photos from him alright - how much effort have you made to get in touch with him before shouting out on the website?

[The Stranger]

Yep sorry that was me typing - wrong log in.

I got my photos from him alright - how much effort have you made to get in touch with him before shouting out on the website?

Did you read the first post?
Mate, Quasi runs a business too selling stuff to KBers, he knows how it works.

[Gremlin]

how much effort have you made to get in touch with him before shouting out on the website?
I'll wait for him to reply... but I know that the email server can block emails, so he would never know that you are contacting him...

[crashe]

I'll wait for him to reply... but I know that the email server can block emails, so he would never know that you are contacting him...

Yep this can happen..... my xtra webmail has thrown a few emails into the trash can, so that they never came into my 'inbox' at all. Plus they were from people that have been in my address book for a long time.

Heck even xtra sends their own 'Max newman emails' to my spam folder lol.
One in 6 will get throu to me... lol.

I was lucky to have spotted the important email. Only discovered it when I went into the webmail every two weeks to do a clean out of the spam and spotted a couple sitting in the 'trash box'. It was huh ! better see what they are, cos I never sent them there.

So emails can get lost, without your knowledge.

Now I go there every week if I remember that is.

Many people dont bother with checking via xtramail now known as webmail or other setup that there comps have for their emails.


Im not excusing what has happened, just explaining what may have happened to emails being sent to people.

[MD]

I'm with Quasi. I paid for electronic and paper pics and after two reminders still no hard copies! 6 months is beyond reasonable doubt - Lets hang em.
I regret leaping to zapf defence when people were slagging him off for charging a fee at TTD3 (Nov 06). I happily paid the fee but did expect something in return.
ps- he replied to my PMs and said he would get on to it soon. 6 months is not soon.

[El Dopa]

1) Firewalls don't generally block e-mails from an address once you reply to that address. In my case, 2-way contact had already been established.

2) He will have received PM's. If you visit KB (which he has done since), he wil have recieved reminder PM's, if they were sent.

3) TD4 (which is what we are talking about) was in NOV 2006. We are not talking about TD5 earlier this month.

I was going to chalk this one up to experience, as I haven't actually seen him since Nov '06, and didn't realise I wasn't the only one. But now we're talking about it........

[McJim]

Did you read the first post?
Mate, Quasi runs a business too selling stuff to KBers, he knows how it works.

Then he should know better than to call him a prick unless it's in jest.

[Gremlin]

1) Firewalls don't generally block e-mails from an address once you reply to that address. In my case, 2-way contact had already been established.

2) He will have received PM's. If you visit KB (which he has done since), he wil have recieved reminder PM's, if they were sent.
1. Emails, while not guaranteed, are best effort, and it depends how the server treats the message. Normally, the only way it is truly unsent, is to be classified as spam, no messages are sent to receiver or sender, as it defeats the purpose. How a server classifies emails as spam are up to it, and how its programmed (checking of sending server, spam lists, etc etc).

On the other hand, his messages to you, *could* have been blocked. That is also possible, and again, it depends how the server you collect emails off, is programmed...

2. It wasn't noted how he was contacted. Could be pm or various email addresses, which changes things.

We'll wait for him to see the thread...

[QMOTO]

Then he should know better than to call him a prick unless it's in jest.

Mate I have had MULTI, emails Pms going both ways and still I dont have them, He has been promising them to me for months and nothing. I gave him a warning a month ago to sought it out, he said a couple of days, hey 30 have gone by and zippo.
It pisses me off


and yes I do know him

[Zapf]

Mate I have had MULTI, emails Pms going both ways and still I dont have them, He has been promising them to me for months and nothing. I gave him a warning a month ago to sought it out, he said a couple of days, hey 30 have gone by and zippo.
It pisses me off


and yes I do know him

Thanks Quasi, I have been so busy that I haven't even have time to hop on my bike. Let alone to fight with you. I have had the stack of photos sitting on my desk for a few months. I'll just have to put off some sleep to spend an hour or two filling sending them. If you want to slag me off go ahead, I'll just go and sob.

If you really want to count points, I am sure you remembered who spotted and picked up your belt bag with your digicam / wallet ... etc. Having to make u turn to go back to the corner to pick it up at the risk of some B train come charging around. Grateful are you not... It really upsets me that you are calling names. If I am really the scheming type, you most likely wouldn't have seen it again.

[Zapf]

If anyone is reading this I believe I own printed photos to the following ppl.

MD - 7 prints
Quasi - 3 prints
Clivoris - 2 prints
bret_is_evil - 2 prints.

If anyone is REALLY upset. Then just PM me your bank account, I'll send you your prints and refund you money.

For the record all the electronic copies were delivered.

Quasi, can you PM me an address to yours to. I don't have them on the spreadsheet.

For the record, I will also make sure I don't under pay myself. That is what happens when I try to do too many things for too many people for next to nothing.

[Paul in NZ]

Ah mate - don't get upset - life is full of lessons OK - one of them is don't bank cheques your body can't cash. We all get caught out on that one...

[White trash]

Thanks Quasi, I have been so busy that I haven't even have time to hop on my bike. Let alone to fight with you. I have had the stack of photos sitting on my desk for a few months. I'll just have to put off some sleep to spend an hour or two filling sending them. If you want to slag me off go ahead, I'll just go and sob.

If you really want to count points, I am sure you remembered who spotted and picked up your belt bag with your digicam / wallet ... etc. Having to make u turn to go back to the corner to pick it up at the risk of some B train come charging around. Grateful are you not... It really upsets me that you are calling names. If I am really the scheming type, you most likely wouldn't have seen it again.
Regardless of what was done and who was helped on a ride, this is business.

Gremlin, stop defending your boss and think "customer" for a second.

People ave paid their monies, they expect their goods. Zapf, it sounds like you've got too much on your plate mate and saying "Hey, I can't provide 'em right now. Sorry." might have saved a shitload of mudslinging your way.

[Gremlin]

Gremlin, stop defending your boss and think "customer" for a second.

People ave paid their monies, they expect their goods. Zapf, it sounds like you've got too much on your plate mate and saying "Hey, I can't provide 'em right now. Sorry." might have saved a shitload of mudslinging your way.
not defending, there is always a reason for something... maybe bret thought he had to put it in a public forum to get action, I dunno.

regards email, I had the exact issue, a website from the US wasn't getting their emails through to me, I was wondering wtf was going on, so, sent the third email from another account, separate server. Turned out, they had replied to every email... but they didn't come through.

Its when people don't talk, or understand the problem, that it turns to custard.

[jrandom]

Its when people don't talk, or understand the problem, that it turns to custard.

Sounds like someone has been to a few sessions of couples therapy.

[Gremlin]

Sounds like someone has been to a few sessions of couples therapy.
actually, never have, not that sort... it comes from disliking lawyers... :yes:

situations turn to custard, people don't talk, lawyers called in... and no-one ever wins but the lawyers... If only people could have been civil, given one another a chance to express their side...

shit... I sound sane... :wacko:

wait... I'll blame this on the boss... he's got me reading a book, Communicating effectively for dummies, and last part I read was the 4 types of listening...

[White trash]

not defending, there is always a reason for something... maybe bret thought he had to put it in a public forum to get action, I dunno.

regards email, I had the exact issue, a website from the US wasn't getting their emails through to me, I was wondering wtf was going on, so, sent the third email from another account, separate server. Turned out, they had replied to every email... but they didn't come through.

Its when people don't talk, or understand the problem, that it turns to custard.
Hey, that's cool, I understand the emails not getting through thing.

But surely, after five months, when someone REPLYS to one of your emails saying, "I'm on it, you'll get 'em in a couple of days", and a month later you still haven't received something, you'd still be pretty sure some fucken geek techno thing wasn't blocking ya. Wouldn't you?

I dunno, you guys know computers. I just know customer service........

[Gremlin]

But surely, after five months, when someone REPLYS to one of your emails saying, "I'm on it, you'll get 'em in a couple of days", and a month later you still haven't received something, you'd still be pretty sure some fucken geek techno thing wasn't blocking ya. Wouldn't you?
in some situations, you wouldn't know, unless someone said (via phone, etc), oi, I sent you an email, you get it?

I wasn't going to speak on his behalf, just saying, there could be reasons... He's big enough and ugly enough to defend himself :yes:

Customer service is easy... there is far more to it than that. I could say yes to anything asked to me... but that would never work, would it?

I also know how bret might feel... speaking of that, (don't want to take it off topic, but bret will read this) read ya pm's, I dun know where ya live, no mob number, so can't collect front/back protector, until I do :)

[McJim]

I just know customer service........

What? like getting your change in installments? :rofl: P/T

[98tls]

Seems to be sorted to me.............end of story...............

[White trash]

Seems to be sorted to me.............end of story...............
Agreed. Well put

[boomer]

Hey Zapf.. wheres my photos.. i paid for the lot and received non :whistle:

[Paul in NZ]

Hey Zapf.. wheres my photos.. i paid for the lot and received non :whistle:

Apparently the undead don't come out in photos...... Or is that mirrors? ;-)

[boomer]

Apparently the undead don't come out in photos...... Or is that mirrors? ;-)

can i have ma money back then :mellow: and he can be grateful i don't sue his asian ass for mis advertisement

[Paul in NZ]

can i have ma money back then :mellow: and he can be grateful i don't sue his asian ass for mis advertisement

Not like you to sue for advertising miss's?

[boomer]

apparently she's sexxy sexxy

[Paul in NZ]

apparently she's sexxy sexxy


Whoops - thanks for reminding me - Vick went to bed 5 mins ago and i was just gunna check me email - 'gnight

[Zapf]

Regardless of what was done and who was helped on a ride, this is business.

People ave paid their monies, they expect their goods. Zapf, it sounds like you've got too much on your plate mate and saying "Hey, I can't provide 'em right now. Sorry." might have saved a shitload of mudslinging your way.

Thanks, know what you mean. Do however keep in mind that the money was to cover cost, not to fatten the wallet. If I was in the business of making profit from the venture then I can totally understand. However I was just doing it for the community and covering my cost.

If I was doing it for Profit, the customers will get a very different level of service. That is why my for profit customers have been getting all my attention lately.

Next time I am doing this, it'll be for profit. And the service will be reflected accordingly.

Cheers
Zapf

[Zapf]

Hey Zapf.. wheres my photos.. i paid for the lot and received non :whistle:

I'll pay you back in funny money ok ... heheh:innocent:

[Beemer]

i'm used to it being the other way round, sending out the photos and waiting weeks for a cheque to arrive.

Same here, that's why I gave up taking photos at track days unless I knew people really wanted them. I got so sick of being told they would definitely buy them but all they did was look and say "great shots" and never front up with the cash. $12,000 worth of camera equipment doesn't pay for itself so I only took shots of those I knew would pay in the end!

One month is bad enough, but six months is totally unacceptable.

[Quasievil]

Thanks, know what you mean. Do however keep in mind that the money was to cover cost, not to fatten the wallet. If I was in the business of making profit from the venture then I can totally understand. However I was just doing it for the community and covering my cost.

If I was doing it for Profit, the customers will get a very different level of service. That is why my for profit customers have been getting all my attention lately.

Next time I am doing this, it'll be for profit. And the service will be reflected accordingly.

Cheers
Zapf

What a Load of fucking bullshite ZapF

Im not aware of your profit margin level etc and couldnt give a shite about it, fact is you offered a product for a price, I accepted it and Paid, commercial law 101 buddy.
You are essentially in Breach of contract not to mention consumer guarantees act, fair trading act etc etc etc.
Quit with the CRAP excuses and get the fucking photos out to those that have paid your sorry arse !!!!
All you have achieved so far is ripping people off

[Quasievil]

Ive been contacted by yet another person ripped off Zapf

Whats that now 5 or 6 people ??

where you gone ??

[skelstar]

Does Felix answer your emails B?

[McJim]

Anyone want to buy a Quasi Jacket?

I'm becoming ashamed to wear his brand.

Didn't realise he was such a Pom :rofl:

[Mom]

I'm going to try something here, wish me luck.



Next time I am doing this, it'll be for profit. And the service will be reflected accordingly.
Cheers
Zapf

Can you tell me exactly what you need to do to get these photos delivered to the people that have paid you for them. Are they printed out? Do you have to get them printed? Exactly what needs to be done? Or is it a case of you actually cant provide them for whatever reason? Feel free to PM me, if you dont want to put it up here.


Ive been contacted by yet another person Zapf



You want to find out exactly what has been ordered, by whom, and how much they have paid for me? Lets see if we can get some movement here. Happy to facillitate/mediate this bunch of shit situation for you.

Feel free to tell me to get lost mind you, I have thick skin.

[The Stranger]

Anyone want to buy a Quasi Jacket?

I'm becoming ashamed to wear his brand.



What size is it?
Good gear, good price and great service.
I'm happy to wear it.