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Black Kat
28th May 2007, 19:09
So im riding up to a whole lot of traffic :zzzz: at five o clock on the way out of hamilton right, and as the 1km line or so continues to build up i take the libierty to ride all the way to the front of the lights on the left shoulder which wass complety empty, passing another rider in the traffic who seemed sort of "pissed off" with my antic, so my question is do you think its fine to creep up through traffic? :scooter: personlly i think that its one of the many perks to riding a motorcycle :yes:

Big Dog
28th May 2007, 19:37
Provided safety comes before the need to be there in a hurry I feel we are obliged.

Definitely depends on circumstance as to weather it is possible / appropriate but it is hardly fair to make cars wait behind us.

jtzzr
28th May 2007, 19:54
Basically it`s our God Given Right to sneak through traffic , but as Big Dog said as long as it`s done safely and as for cages been "pissed off" wait until they start swearing at you ,that`s cool because you know someone is thinking of you and it`s just so frikin funny. Do it Safely.

Puddlejumper
28th May 2007, 20:01
It's one of the reasons for riding a bike. However, check through the threads, there's quite a lot of stuff about filtering and moving to front. The general feeling seems to be Do it safely, watch out for the odd enraged cager and also for the law. My understanding is it's ok to move up on the right with your indicator on ( overtaking) but that on the left you could be done. Also one very important thing. Watch for traffic from side roads and parked cars moving out. Somewhere in here I read of a biker that got knocked off by a cage from the left and he was at fault for "making his own lane" or something. The legal eagles on this site will be able to explain it better than me I'm sure.

Big Dog
28th May 2007, 20:15
and as for cages been "pissed off" wait until they start swearing at you ,that`s cool because you know someone is thinking of you and it`s just so frikin funny. Do it Safely.
I have had more cars carry on because I was patiently waiting (when the way is not clear or safe) than because I have filtered. But the overreaction of an enraged antifilterer is much more dangerous.

Ghost_Bullet
28th May 2007, 20:20
I only do it at times, as long as it looks like there is plenty of room, if I am with others, and they do it to.
Sometimes I just run cautious and sit back behind the cars. Espec in craP weather

boomer
28th May 2007, 20:22
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Big Dog
28th May 2007, 20:24
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I'd be willing to bet this is one of the most reposted subjects in internet motorcycle forums.

Surprise surprise it is also one of the most controversial.

Babelfish
28th May 2007, 20:28
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Fuck the repo po po

And fuck the cages, I'll stop filtering when they stop trying to kill me...and stop cutting em up when they start learning to keep left unless passing....mother fuckers :crazy:

jimbo600
28th May 2007, 20:44
Fuck the lot of em. If they don't like it they can get into bikes and join in. Better for us all in the long run.

Swoop
28th May 2007, 21:15
i take the libierty to ride all the way to the front of the lights on the left shoulder
There is the reason that you received the nasty look from the other bike, and will be the reason that :Police: will be talking to you soon...

2Cycle
28th May 2007, 21:27
I can understand why if you lived in a smaller town you might question the need to "sneak" up through traffic and could probably get by just fine without ever doing it. That was me when I lived in a smaller town. But ever since I moved to the "city of sails" (or should that be, "City of cars") sneaking through traffic and lane splitting is the norm, do it safely and try to be considerate though i.e. don't force a car to put on their brakes or go too fast. Don't feel bad about it, at least you are doing something to reduce the congestion. If you were in a car the traffic would be even worse.

$CENSLS1$
28th May 2007, 21:39
being a newbe rider I havn't done a lot of 'lane splitting' but have on the odd occasion that I have felt it safe to do so. I don't think there is anything wrong with it provided you feel confident in doing it :yes:

ZeroIndex
28th May 2007, 21:45
So im riding up to a whole lot of traffic :zzzz: at five o clock on the way out of hamilton right, and as the 1km line or so continues to build up i take the libierty to ride all the way to the front of the lights on the left shoulder which wass complety empty, passing another rider in the traffic who seemed sort of "pissed off" with my antic, so my question is do you think its fine to creep up through traffic? :scooter: personlly i think that its one of the many perks to riding a motorcycle :yes:

If he seemed pissed off, it's just that you were thinking enough to lanesplit, and he wasn't... As long as there isn't a cop in line (in front of me), I see no problem with lanesplitting...

ZeroIndex
28th May 2007, 21:46
Ps... the lanesplitting that I do when it comes to 'boy-racers' wouldn't be considered "sneaking" at all... full revs between the boy-racers just to show them what's what :motu:

Korea
28th May 2007, 21:48
I'm all for lane splitting - but recently I've seen a few riders blasting down the service lane / breakdown lane on the Mway into Welly.
Last I heard that's a hefty fine and instant court summons - can anyone confirm?

Mom
28th May 2007, 22:01
i take the libierty to ride all the way to the front of the lights on the left shoulder

Making your way to the front of a que of cars is fine, but please dont do it to the left of the traffic! Between 2 rows of stopped or slow moving cars, yes to the right yes..........

Lanesplitting is one thing, undertaking a line of cars is asking for one of them to open a door or pull over on top of you because they were not expecting to find you there

McJim
28th May 2007, 22:15
As far as I am aware it is perfectly legal to filter past a queue of stationary cars (you can filter past stationery cars too coz their made of paper!) and stop at the lights at the front.

If the cars are moving you need to be between the car on your left and the lane dividing line.

If you are between the car on your right and the lane dividing line you are committing a traffic offence.

If you are between the car on your right and the left hand edge of the road you are committing an offence.

Apparently (if there's enough space) you can scoot along the right hand side of the motorway between the central barrier and the car on your left without getting done so long as you are travelling at a reasonable speed.

If you obey the rules but do so at silly speeds you will probably get done for dangerous driving.

I am not a police officer however and could be wrong.

Blackadda
28th May 2007, 22:37
I am not a police officer however and could be wrong.

Always read the fine print eh........:yes:

ZeroIndex
28th May 2007, 23:00
I'm all for lane splitting - but recently I've seen a few riders blasting down the service lane / breakdown lane on the Mway into Welly.
Last I heard that's a hefty fine and instant court summons - can anyone confirm?

Maybe... if you stop and let them catch you... :p

Devil
29th May 2007, 08:05
Apparently (if there's enough space) you can scoot along the right hand side of the motorway between the central barrier and the car on your left without getting done so long as you are travelling at a reasonable speed.

You're not allowed to ride outside of the "fog lines", left or right...

Swoop
29th May 2007, 08:11
Always read the fine print eh........:yes:
"May contain traces of nuts???":scratch::gob:

damo
29th May 2007, 09:31
I was driving my car down Tamaki drive last night..saw a late model Holden.. it was driving erraticaly. crossing the dividing lines and such... then finally changing lanes and speeding up right up the arse of antoehr car.

Thought..what a cockmaster.. bet its a drunk driver... and as I went for my phone to *555 him...... I saw the glint..

the glint of the rear blue and red undercover car lights.. the "drunkard" was a cop!

then it gets better... hes breaking the speed limit by at least 20kph... we hit the bottom of town, I pull up beside up at the lights.. then a scooter whips up the outside right hand side.. light goes green and the scooter cuts the cop off hahaha


cept then the cop pulled him over..
what a double standard tho, the cop was driving like a nonce,and breaking all kinds of road rules and speed limits for a good 10 mins before that incident.

toycollector10
29th May 2007, 10:58
I don't feel guilty about lane splitting, burning fossil fuels, emitting CO2, having a carbon footprint, global warming, swearing in public, having loud pipes or any "stuff" that society wants me to cringe over. Neither should you, it's a cager jealousy thing. "Ohh look, he's moving, I'm not, the bastard"! Mofars!

Swoop
29th May 2007, 11:09
Thought..what a cockmaster.. bet its a drunk driver... and as I went for my phone to *555 him...... I saw the glint..

the glint of the rear blue and red undercover car lights.. the "drunkard" was a cop!
Hey, go easy. It's difficult to eat a donut, txt, work the radio AND drive... unless it was a female copper (who would then also be able to apply makeup and be writing out the next ticket)???

Sanx
29th May 2007, 19:51
I was driving my car down Tamaki drive last night..saw a late model Holden.. it was driving erraticaly. crossing the dividing lines and such... then finally changing lanes and speeding up right up the arse of antoehr car.

Thought..what a cockmaster.. bet its a drunk driver... and as I went for my phone to *555 him...... I saw the glint..

the glint of the rear blue and red undercover car lights.. the "drunkard" was a cop!

then it gets better... hes breaking the speed limit by at least 20kph... we hit the bottom of town, I pull up beside up at the lights.. then a scooter whips up the outside right hand side.. light goes green and the scooter cuts the cop off hahaha


cept then the cop pulled him over..
what a double standard tho, the cop was driving like a nonce,and breaking all kinds of road rules and speed limits for a good 10 mins before that incident.

The *555 and report him. Even better, go down to a cop shop later on and make a formal complaint. It'll only take ten minutes.

I've lost count of the times I've reported cops for exactly the same behaviour that they stop people for. Always fun when you get through to the control room:
"Did you notice the make and model of the car?"
"Yep, a late model Holden Commodore."
"Colour?"
"White, with Police written in large letters all down the side."

As much as I dislike traffic cops for displaying a crass inflexibility and lack of common sense (and I have a completely clean licence too), it's the sheer hypocrisy that a large number of them display that really pisses me off.

Horney1
29th May 2007, 20:00
I'd be pissed off sitting in a car going nowhere to! But that's why I ride a (push)-bike.... (Grrrr, not through choice, believe me.) The v2 was much easier!

Black Kat
30th May 2007, 18:29
Didnt no that this was a repost, only my second post! as to me sneaking up the left, no chance of anyone pulling out at me, i felt safe to do it, as going through the mid of cars to. :P

ambler
1st June 2007, 04:49
well I wouldn't exactly call it sneaking, but here's how we do it in Tokyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtvJB1eXoQ

Cagers are so used to it that they just look right through you, nobody cares.

vifferman
1st June 2007, 07:54
do you think its fine to creep up through traffic?
I don't care if it is or not. I'm not going to sit behind a whole bunch of slower vehicles, waiting for them to take off, and sucking in all their fumes. What would be the point of that - I may as well take the car.

90s
1st June 2007, 10:18
Let's get this completely straight - there are loads of threads on the legality etc of lanesplitting.

This is not lanesplitting - but an example of using the hard shoulder for undertaking which is NEVER OK and NEVER legal and NEVER a clever thing to do.

(unless I read it incorrectly?)

90s
1st June 2007, 10:21
So im riding up to a whole lot of traffic ... on the left shoulder

Subject to rereading your last post I change my mind purely on the basis that you ride the mighty GSX-f. The rules should be different for us.

But better not get caught riding on the shoulder or you will probably lose it soon as the cops don't always see it our way ...