cbr125

[Maido]

hey guys,
Just want to get a guage of interest of what sort of price you would pay for a new one of the new CBR125's.

We all know that it won't be as fast as the current 150 2 strokers, and this isn't asking if you would race them, just after what you think would be a reasonable price. I mean reasonable price from what you actually get, a modern, good looking, fuel injected, reliable, new small bore 4 stroke road bike.

if you haven't seen it already, there is a link below.

http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Honda/2007_CBR125R/page1.htm

Feel free to leave feedback on your thoughts on the bike, but please make sure it is constructive.

[yod]

i doubt i'd ever pay for one so i wont vote but 2.5l/100km??? thats like 100mpg!!

legendary....

[xwhatsit]

Of course, everybody's voting for "<$3500" because they'd want cheap, but you've got to be realistic. How much are GT250s and GT250Rs going for? About $6K, $7K? Now you've got a little sportsbike here with far more performance (and build quality) than a GN250, yet you think it's going to made available for less than one of those?

[imdying]

Red Baron should be able to price them at $10,500 easily.

[deanohit]

Red Baron should be able to price them at $10,500 easily.

Hahahaha, to bloody right! Should be a fun wee bike though,:scooter:

[Hitcher]

Why buy a new 125 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 250s?

[more_fasterer]

Exactly. Of course we can only speculate as to whether Honda will release a 250cc version for their home market.

[Sniper]

Why buy a new 125 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 250s?

One word..... Price.

250's are too dear

[Coyote]

$4000 Australian, that's like $4500 here right? That's a good deal for a new learners bikes, I'm all for it

Might get other companies interested and start making their own. It'd be great to see some new japanese blood in the 250 market

[Maido]

Thanks for the replys so far, I wanted people to be as realistic as possible in this.

Obviously people will think that cos it is a 125 it isn't worth much, but to be honest it has the same technology ie fuel injection and metallurgy as other models.
Although it isn't as high tuned, approx 104hp per litre as apposed to the approx 180 hp per liter of the current big bikes.
The point of the bike is to be a commuter not a superbike.

I realise that some people wouldn't even concider a 125 for the road, that is not the point of the poll though.

I personally believe that around $4500-$5000 is a fair price for what you are actually getting. (i personally wouldn't buy one as i prefer bigger bikes, but that is what I believe that is what it is worth).

Thanks for everyones input.

[Oakie]

With a brand new Yamaha Scorpio (225cc?) going at under $4000, you should really only be happy paying more than that for the Honda 125 if the styling is really important to you. Does look nice though and I think I'd rather be seen on the Honda ... but how much more I'd be prepared to pay for that is the question.

[inlinefour]

I know its not new, but I want it gone and its only $1 reserve. 1997 CR125R.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=108760867

I know its a 2 smoker and I have some history with the bike, buts its a sweet litte number and lots of fun to ride.:yes:

[gixermike]

The girlfreind had one of these for two years in the uk as a learner (125cc limit). trying to campare it to my old RG125 from erm....14 years ago rather than the current bike...

+ve .....good, comfy, reliable, small, good build quality....indicators are good crash protectors (she proved this numerous times), nice looking, handle ok, good brakes...fuel guage...not really needed given the fuel ecomony...yes 100mpg is realistic! surprisingly high level of grip. Massively flickable between corners..

-ve.....very very light..so move a lot in cross wind/draft from trucks...and actually blow over off stand in storms....fairing looks nice but offers no protection at all (even for a sportsbike style). although it's a 'sports style' it's not up with things like an NSR...they're much bigger and sportier handling.
Suspension is very soft, with no adjustment..ok if your small, but if you're anything but a lightweight you may struggle..

top speed was a recorded 72mph....but you need a long run up, or possible a downhill with the wind behind you....you won't be overtaking anyone in a 100Kph limit....

IIRC There was a uk recall on the ignition unit due to cracking and moisture leaking. just check it's either not relevant or been done. Main thing is the engine is truly uninspiring...think a very dull CG125 and you'll be about right. you'll get away from the lights for about the first 10m or so, and then grandma in her civic will easily pass you.

I actually like them...as a learner bike, but you'll probably out grow it quickly, and also, think about what the resale is likey to be in a 250cc learner market?

The other thing as a commuter (i.e parked same place each day....outsise?) is that a nice small, shiny bike is very tempting for the yooofs to steal...looks nice to their mates, but not too scary for them to ride around the park/domain/whatever...
just my 2c

[delusionz]

Nice! A learner sized MODERN CBR!

Wish they made a 250cc export version. Theres no market for 250cc sports in Japan but there is in this part of the world, and probably other parts too.

[Swoop]

It looks bloody nice for a smaller bike!
If it is possible to put a larger rear tyre on it and hide the awful mudguard/plate holder/shovel thingy... it would look even better!
With the purported demise of the GN looming, this would bee an option. Even better, would be a 250 version for the same price.

[Toaster]

I agree with Hitcher. Go a 250cc... none of this 125cc girls blouse stuff.

[vtec]

I could only dream of a new upgraded fuel injected version of the mc22. My dream bike.

But that looks alright. They made piles of the CBR150's in Thailand, I wish they had made it here then I might have been couriering on one of those instead of my trusty NXR125 (which is working out very well).

[Deviant Esq]

I'm so glad I would up with a 250 with decent enough power to keep me interested (just barely) long enough to get to my full. If I bought a 125cc as I'd originally planned I'd be long bored by now - hell, I'm already bored of the NZ250, but as I'm on the home stretch I'll grit my teeth and last it out until I get my full.

Sure the CBR125 looks like a cool wee bike for a learner, but I reckon you'd soon be hankering after a bit more go. You don't have to stay on your learner licence quite so long in the UK, mind. Still would be an excellent bike for the NZ market if they brought it in, I think it would sell reasonably well at $4995 or thereabouts.

[breakaway]

Good commuter.

Would buy one.

[McJim]

It's a real shame that our population and that of Australia is so small. The reason they make a CBR125 and no longer make a CBR250 is coz in the UK 125cc is the Max for a basic Learner - this is a common rule in staged licences in the rest of Europe too therefore it creates the demand to make these little bikes. With the NZ population somewhat less than that of your average European city it means few manufacturers bother making 250s any more - high powered 250s died off when the Japanese govt introduced hp restrictions hence we are faced with our current crop of ageing 4 cyl 250s and some new twins.

I would have bought one as a first bike up to about $4,500 as I would rather buy newer than faster any day.

But for so many others it's ALL about power and speed.

[sAsLEX]

I could only dream of a new upgraded fuel injected version of the mc22. My dream bike.



Well make one you lazy arse! http://www.feralinjection.com/cbr/cbr1.html





And the 125 beats taking a scooter to work, some decent tires and a goal of not loosing any ANY corner speed the entire way to work would make a fun and cheap way of not fucking your many multi $K race rep etc

[TygerTung]

Looks good, a bit faster than the mighty CG125 and just as good fuel economy!

Is it a water or an air cooled engine?

I wouldn't write 125's off eh, they are where you learn to ride, I mean REALLY learn.

If you have no horsepower you have to make up for it with great skills. If you have a screaming 250 4 with 45 hp or a real 250, ie a 2 stroke with more than that and less weight you tend to just rely on the power to get you through.

On a 125 you learn about corner speed and lines and stuff. Most learners get a ZXR250 or a CB250RRRRRRRRR and think they are so quick because they're revving to 19000, but I have been on rides with these fullas on my CG125 around the hills and blitzed them.

My latest streetfighter project is a CG125 with an XR200R engine with Hot cam and Ported head 6 speed box etc. Will be awsome!!!! Will leave it looking really factory, paint the engine silver, standard drum brakes bars etc!!!!!:scooter::Punk:

[Slicksta]

I donno 250s are fantastic but in New Zealand i think they are to over priced. Besides its probably just me but i like touring on smaller bikes it just seems more of an adventure to see if the bike will make it or not.... i took my lead 100 2 up to Tamranui and back from Hamilton around 170km each way. 75-80kph most of the way it was interesting..

As a large fan of smaller bikes/scooters I hope Honda dose not over price it. If it dose come here i would dearly love to buy one as an upgrade....

Oh its Liquid cooled according to bikez:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cbr125r_2007.php

[breakaway]

Oh its Liquid cooled according to bikez:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cbr125r_2007.php

They also reckon it has dual discs on the front :rolleyes:

[Slicksta]

They also reckon it has dual discs on the front :rolleyes:

True didnt see that lol.... they can be inaccurate with there information as i have found out before. but if you look closely in this pic (http://www.bikez.com/pictures/large.php?image=http://www.bikez.com/pictures/honda/2007/24489_0_1_4_cbr125r_Image%20credits%20-%20Honda.jpg) it looks like a radiator is there... i may be wrong i admit to not being to clued up when it come to mechanics... hope so tho :Punk:

[Slicksta]

Apparently it is :rockon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUqxQz0hDQ

[breakaway]

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Awesome.

[ManDownUnder]

Why buy a new 125 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 250s?

They're cheap to run... :dodge:

[Slicksta]

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Awesome.

Nice :) smaller bikes are still alot of fun

[xwhatsit]

Why buy a new 125 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 250s?

<hints id="hah_hints"></hints>Why buy a new 600 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 1000s?

[ZeroIndex]

<hints id="hah_hints"></hints>Why buy a new 600 four-stroke, when there is plenty of choice in 1000s?
600's are better for stunting...

[Slicksta]

Why dose everyone need there bike to be able to go 300kph or go from 0-100 in under 3sec for doing the daily commute... unless your in to track days, stunting ect.... Im not saying they are not fun but for practicality just to get from a to b a small bike dose the same job and uses less gas...

[TygerTung]

A 250 is a big heavy pig compared with a 125 and some people just don't like that!

[limbimtimwim]

The CBR125R is coming to New Zealand

[pritch]

I'm thinking about buying a commuter but I don't want a scooter.
The little CBR looks like a motorbike at least... I'd ride one but I think they'll be a bit expensive for what I want.

During what passes for rush hour here I'm not at all averse to using footpaths or hotel driveways or whatever else gets me home. A dirt bike might be more appropriate.

It doesn't feel quite right pulling capers like that on a VFR.

[Ocean1]

A dirt bike might be more appropriate.

Oy 'ave I got a deal for you. :blip:
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[breakaway]

I want to get one of these so I can finally take my CBR to trackday and not worry about crashing it!

[ZeroIndex]

I'm thinking about buying a commuter but I don't want a scooter.
The little CBR looks like a motorbike at least... I'd ride one but I think they'll be a bit expensive for what I want.

During what passes for rush hour here I'm not at all averse to using footpaths or hotel driveways or whatever else gets me home. A dirt bike might be more appropriate.

It doesn't feel quite right pulling capers like that on a VFR.

Honda NXR125 might be the ticket for you if you're looking for an econinomical hooligan commuter bike that can survive complete abuse :headbang: Carver's one was awesome, but he just sold it...

[limbimtimwim]

$5,195.00 including GST

How much negotiating room in there I wonder.

[breakaway]

I want one sooo bad now. Would be awesome for commuting.

[EnzoYug]

I want one sooo bad now. Would be awesome for commuting.

Really? I'd want something that'd actually get me out of the way of Mr Holden and his disregard for red-lights...

Sure it looks pretty but it's like riding an FXR. People say "wow, looks like it can go pretty fast" (plastic makes anything look fast) and then they see you take off.... :( I'd rather commute on a GN250*. After all, the commute isn't about looking good. It's about getting the job done.


*ok, ok. I lie. I would NEVER ride another GN250 :P

[breakaway]

Anyone know how much an FXR retails for?