Router login help.

[The Pastor]

Howdy people.

I have the dsl g604t shit router.

For some reason the default passwords are no longer working.

I need to login to forward a port.

I do NOT want to reset the router as getting all the settings correct is a complete bitch, and I'd have to ring tele-sux-my-ass-while-i-rape-your-bank-account-com and wait 4hrs to talk to someone who has no idea whats going on. Last time all i wanted was the settings for the router, but it took him 1hr to figure it out.

Is there any way to get around router passwords? I'd prefer this convo to be held in PM, but what ever suits.

Running xp if that matters

Do you think someone could of changed the password from default? (i.e., i got haxd?) This happend after that weekend recently where tcom fall over.

Thanks for your help,

Rm

[Gremlin]

The G604T has wireless capability doesn't it? Do you know for sure that the password that you set on it worked, and now it doesn't?

Basically, if someone was connected to your network, then yes, quite possible to change the password, if they knew what they were doing (just the same as you could change the password).

afaik, no way of accessing the password, without having a valid log in into the router. In the future, its best you save a config file of the router (most decent routers have this ability).

[Karma]

I do NOT want to reset the router as getting all the settings correct is a complete bitch, and I'd have to ring tele-sux-my-ass-while-i-rape-your-bank-account-com and wait 4hrs to talk to someone who has no idea whats going on. Last time all i wanted was the settings for the router, but it took him 1hr to figure it out.

They won't know how to bypass the password feature either, standard procedure is to factory reset the router, so no point even calling them.


This happend after that weekend recently where tcom fall over.

Yeh, that won't have anything to do with it either.

Unless you want to try throwing some kinda cracking software at the user/pass dialog box then you've gotta factory reboot it. It'd be quicker to re-enter your port forwards than try to hack into it.

[Gremlin]

They won't know how to bypass the password feature either, standard procedure is to factory reset the router, so no point even calling them.
I've called some of them, and they don't even know the stock manufacturer passwords...

[The Pastor]

The thing is, i havnt changed the password. It should be default.

[Karma]

I've called some of them, and they don't even know the stock manufacturer passwords...


That's the gaydar mate... there's a popup that comes up and says the caller is a pie eating saffa homo, that's the trouble.

[xwhatsit]

I have your router (read my sig ;)), and no, there's no way to reset the password without doing a hard-reset on the router (unless you know the new password of course).

The router has wifi, so what's happened is somebody (maybe your next-door neighbour, or somebody out wardriving) connected to your router, found the default password worked, and changed the password so you can't lock them out in future if they want to connect wirelessly.

Moral of the story: you're a complete tit for leaving the default password on your router.

[Dargor]

yea, your a twit. Its simple enough to connect to your router from the internet and login with default passwords aswell.

[scracha]

yea, your a twit. Its simple enough to connect to your router from the internet and login with default passwords aswell.

I've had my 604T with the default username/pwd for about 3 years. If the Wifi security is set to WPA with a 7 character password then it's not hackable.

As for changing the password from the internet, how is that possible without changing settings as by default it's limited to the local subnet?

[The Pastor]

Ok now im worried, ive done the hard reset, its still not working, i'll try again now.

[The Pastor]

I fixed it, the hard reset takes 10mins, not 30 seconds. (reset button is broken)


Also I remebered I had saved the set upfiles (a must) so I could get back on the net straight away.

SORTED.

[Dargor]

it's not hackable. I wouldnt put money on that, but it'll be secure enough.

how is that possible without changing settings as by default it's limited to the local subnet?
Well the d-link router i had, and many others have vulnerable defaults.

[xwhatsit]

Not with the G604T, it really is limited to the local subnet if you want to access the router configuration.

You probably could crack it, but it is running a reasonably secure version of uC-Linux, not some awful homegrown D-Link-designed OS, so it would take a pretty reasonable effort by some smart people, not your average script kiddie.

[scracha]

A 7 digit WPA (not WEP) key is fine as it's not like you can try thousands of key's per second over wifi.

The 604T isn't a bad unit and I never get callouts for them dying or losing their settings like the 302/502's. Brought mine from the UK and it's been faultless. Not many of them suffer from the power surges that happen a lot around here (the Linksys stuff seems to die at the merest hint of a spike). Copes with my crappy 63Db upstream/downstream (13Db downstream margin yikes!) line attenuation also. Add a decent external antenna and the range is decent. The only thing that $hits itself is the DNS relaying tables seem to get full if you're doing P2P stuff, setting the client PC DNS servers straight to the ISP's seems to work fine.

[The Pastor]

the 604t is good in terms of connection. But the interface is so freeking complicated and i hate it for ever. Dynalink modems are WAY better by a long shot (note havnt tried wireless ones). I love dynalink, i hate having my little 1 pc dynalink sitting there going "you should so use me im better than that d-link" but i can't use it as no one else can connect through it :( :( :(.

I told my dad "DO NOT BUY THE D-LINK" and what does he do, goes and buys it when telecom were giving them away for free!

[scracha]

Complex? Nah mate, you should try some of the SMC stuff. Ye Gads.

[Cajun]

scracha - i don't have problems with the 5 linksys i have put in to places, rock solid and never have any issues that can be related back to the router, the isp yes but not the router,

i personally perfer to putting linksys in to sites, than others

[xwhatsit]

Cajun, Linksys is ace, I agree. Linksys is basically Cisco -- and we all know Cisco has got the goods. In fact I have spent some time modifying my DSL-G604T to have more Cisco-like features :lol:

[econohonda]

:-) Geek talk

[xwhatsit]

:-) Geek talk

Hey! Is that Malcolm? I need to ring you up shortly for some fork seals...

Welcome to KB :D

[Hoon]

I've had my 604T with the default username/pwd for about 3 years. If the Wifi security is set to WPA with a 7 character password then it's not hackable.

You've just been lucky.....and it looks like your luck just ran out. Theres a known weakness with the RC4 algorithm which has been exploited by such tools as Airsnort and WEPCrack so your key is definately "not hackable".

You're lucky the changed password got your attention! But then again maybe you've been paying for someone elses internet access for the last 3 years.

Some local kid probably saw that broken episode about hacking wireless networks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiwlkSKi3PA&mode=related&search=) and decided to try it out on you!

Moral of the story - Change the default router password!

[scracha]

You've just been lucky.....and it looks like your luck just ran out. Theres a known weakness with the RC4 algorithm which has been exploited by such tools as Airsnort and WEPCrack so your key is definately "not hackable".

Moral of the story - Change the default router password!

I've used Airsnort myself and it took under 10 minutes to crack a WEP network. However....

I thought only WEP was hackable (NB: the default encryption Telecon set up on the 604T)? WPA is safe isn't it? Please tell me if it's not.

[inlinefour]

Howdy people.

I have the dsl g604t shit router.

For some reason the default passwords are no longer working.

I need to login to forward a port.

I do NOT want to reset the router as getting all the settings correct is a complete bitch, and I'd have to ring tele-sux-my-ass-while-i-rape-your-bank-account-com and wait 4hrs to talk to someone who has no idea whats going on. Last time all i wanted was the settings for the router, but it took him 1hr to figure it out.

Is there any way to get around router passwords? I'd prefer this convo to be held in PM, but what ever suits.

Running xp if that matters

Do you think someone could of changed the password from default? (i.e., i got haxd?) This happend after that weekend recently where tcom fall over.

Thanks for your help,

Rm

Have only ever had one problem with mine, allbeit a small problem. The way I sorted it was by using the reset button on my router, which I might add is a different one than yours. If you also have a reset button then I suggest you use it and then set up the router again. If you don't have a reset button, then I have no idea...:calm: I know you don't want to use the reset button because getting the settings is too hard? Sounds like you need a d-link as thats something that my one can detect for itself...

Ah, just read that its sorted now, glad I set up a password for the wireless straight away. Hope you have done the same now.

[Hoon]

I thought only WEP was hackable (NB: the default encryption Telecon set up on the 604T)? WPA is safe isn't it? Please tell me if it's not.

Oops sorry thought you were using WEP - must pay more attention!! WPA is hackable by brute force but only something like 50 attempts per sec. I remember hearing something about using some hash table that improves this to 18000 per sec tho? Anyway your 7 char password isn't that big and if it's in the dictionary then thats even worse. Not sure how easy it is to hack this with the tools available and whether its within the realm of your local script kiddie - need to look that up.