Drowning cats guy

[Lias]

I saw something on the late news tonight, about a guy who said on campbell live last night that stray cats should be caught and drowned.

I'm not entirely sure I approve of drowning em, but he did have some very good points. Cats should be registered, all cat owners should be required to have cat proof fences to prevent their cats leaving the section, and cats roaming the street should be taken away like dogs are.

I know a bunch of you are cat lovers, what do you think? Personally I dont mind cats that much, but I positively hate having them come on my property and shit everywhere, or leave half eaten birds on my lawn.

[Curious_AJ]

well, they should be kept from roads at least... but they're roamers by nature, ofcourse they're going to get around no matter what fences are erected...

[98tls]

Anyone that does that shit to animals for those reasons should receive the same.

[yod]

yeah saw it too.....
register cats?? bwaahaahahahaha, like to see them try and bring that one in.....pointless, nigh on impossible and a waste of my tax

the obvious difference between dogs and cats is that, well, y'know, dogs can like, kill people....

[yod]

Anyone that does that shit to animals for those reasons should receive the same.

agreed...

i have no problem with humane pest control but that guy actually said he would take a feral cat to the spca to be put down by injection but he was happy to drown anyone else's.....what a prize wanker....

[MyGSXF]

Last night.. it wasn't just "stray" cats that should be drowned... :(

His neighbours feared for their cats lives!! :shit:

I think it was the SPCA, that made some comment like, drowning was a cruel & inhumane way to put a cat down!! :nono:

He had a large drum, with a little water in it.. (said it needed more water in it) & a cage, & he showed how it was done.. but when asked.. he denied actually having DONE it to any cats.. <_<

The only thing I could see the point to was: there was a bit about keeping cats inside from dawn to dusk.. when cat's like to roam.. :rolleyes:

[Mole_C]

He was such a smug bastard. He wouldn't be looking so smug if he drowned my cat!

His name and address are up on trademe so im sure someone will take revenge

[jafar]

Dogs have owners, Cats have staff .:blip:

As for the idjit on tv3 :bash::finger:

[NotaGoth]

I took in a stray kitten not long ago..... She was the most loveliest little doll I've had... Tried giving her a second chance at life... A loving family and a safe environment... I took her under my wing after hearing locals discussing shooting her and her lil mate.. both were taken into very loving homes.. Sadly she didn't want to stay with me and my partner... We live in an area with ALOT of stray cats... Landlords hubby tried telling my partner to let our dog chase and maul them... Sick prick...

In no way do I agree with drowning them..... I would however support, catching, speying/nuetering of said cats, and releasing them again in order to "control" and prevent cats that have strayed and not returned home from breeding and creating more of a problem ...

[xwhatsit]

Why do we need to register cats? When was the last time you heard of a child getting mauled to death by a cat, for instance?

Shit on your lawn is a problem not just caused by cats. Shall we register birds as well? Dogs sometimes shit on my lawn. Registration certainly didn't prevent it.

Fences and dog capturing exists because dogs have the potential to cause death and serious injury. Domestic cats hardly pose such a threat.

[skidMark]

well, they should be kept from roads at least... but they're roamers by nature, ofcourse they're going to get around no matter what fences are erected...



teeeheheheheheh u said erected!

[janno]

I think one of the most cost effective way the gummint could protect the local wildlife and cut down the feral cat population is by offering free speying and neutering through vets and the SPCA.

Along with a concerted trapping and culling effort aimed at wild cats, which they do have now but of course the little darlings are breeding fast enough to cover the losses.

In a year or two the problem would be reduced significantly.

In Aus it's really noticable that bugger all people have cats compared to here, and it's quite normal for the cats to be permanently inside.

Poor old cats never seem too thrilled, but at least having them in at night cuts down the hunting.

I don't have a problem with culling nuisance cats, but someone who thinks drowning is acceptable is just unbalanced.

[Steam]

Drowning cats is extra-cruel, as it's one of the most painful ways to kill a cat. It's so bad we have a specific law in NZ against drowning cats. You are permitted to kill them in humane ways but drowning is forbidden.

Why?
Cats have a diving reflex, where they go underwater (presumably when they were in the wild they could go for fish or something) and their metabolism changes suddenly so they use less oxygen. Just like those kids who fall in icy water and manage to survive submerged for 20 minutes.
So it takes the cat way longer to die, and the pain is drawn out too, not to mention the terror.

So don't drown cats.
Or I'll come over and punch you in the face.

[MisterD]

the obvious difference between dogs and cats is that, well, y'know, dogs can like, kill people....

Whereas cats just roam the countryside killing native wildlife...we're never going to run out of people are we?

[Swoop]

Having watched the original Campbell Live article, I was thinking at that time "this will cause an uproar!".

Some people would be surprised what their "nice, tame widdle-puddy-tat" gets up to. Especially at night.
Feral cats need a high-speed lead injection.

[yod]

Whereas cats just roam the countryside killing native wildlife...we're never going to run out of people are we?

dude, WE roam the countryside killing native wildlife....

[ManDownUnder]

yeah saw it too.....
register cats?? bwaahaahahahaha, like to see them try and bring that one in.....pointless, nigh on impossible and a waste of my tax

No no no - I reckon they should do it... then insist all the illegal arms get registered as well! Problems solved.

Each is about as easy as the other, and they've been trying the latter for how long? Waste of tax is a good summary of the situation.

[KATWYN]

Why do we need to register cats?

dogs have the potential to cause death and serious injury. Domestic cats hardly pose such a threat.

Well cats aren't innocent :innocent: Dogs don't sneak into peoples homes and pee all over their furniture, a cat bite can cause a nasty infection, a cat claw swipe to the eyes (or anywhere else) can cause irrepairable damage, Pet rabbits, birds and guinea pigs get killed causing emotional trauma to children,the neighbours cat shitting in their garden or elsewhere can cause a pregnant woman to lose her unborn child.....need I go on

Non of which makes it onto the 6.00pm news - unlike dog news

[Fatjim]

Any cat that comes onto my property and
a) keeps me awake with fighting.
b) beats my cat up (yes its a woos)
c) leaves dead things lying around
d) shits or sprays where I don't like it
e) comes inside uninvited.

goes in the wheelie bin.

And as for all this "you kill my cat I'm gonna kill you" bullshit. HA HA HA.

[-df-]

No way to fence in a cat, they like to climb things...all you'd be doing is giving them entertainment.

And if anyone touched my cats I'd be doing what ever they did to them 3 times over. :ar15::mad:

[Fatjim]

BTW, cats are tuff little buggers. I've swung them round and banged their head on things like doors, tables etc, hit them with cricket bats over the head, thrown them as far as I can by the tail and they just get up and walk away. Respect.

[Fatjim]

And if anyone touched my cats I'd be doing what ever they did to them 3 times over. :ar15::mad:



Or I'll come over and punch you in the face.


Man, if he drowned my cat I'd fuckin' kill him - AND YES THIS IS A WRITTEN THREAT!



He wouldn't be looking so smug if he drowned my cat!



Anyone that does that shit to animals for those reasons should receive the same.


Bring it on pussies.

[devnull]

Gotta admit, if a neighbour drowned my cat, his birth certificate would become a worthless document.

I guess the old fart that was on the news has wuss neighbours - nobody has found him head first in his water barrel yet. That'd be poetic justice...

[Paul in NZ]

We have a cat - it's 13 and it likes me (apparently but frankly I think it's just using me) cos i feed it.... I don't like it because it does not feed me, comfort me or do anything other than wreck the furniture, make a mess, kill birds (I like birdies) and give me the sneezes... Its an arrogant sob as well...

Some people think possums are fluffy critters as well - they are not, but I think they got the same PR company that cats did when they evolved... People LIKE cats but ignore what the damn things get up to when they are not working (cat work involves meowing, purring and sitting on laps, sleeping on freshly made beds and that cutesy stuff)...

I like birds in the garden, the bush and all about... Cats kill birds - I don't dislike cats particularly but I'm not all soppy about the damn things either..

Cheers

[-df-]

Any cat that comes onto my property and
a) keeps me awake with fighting.
b) beats my cat up (yes its a woos)
c) leaves dead things lying around
d) shits or sprays where I don't like it
e) comes inside uninvited.

goes in the wheelie bin.

And as for all this "you kill my cat I'm gonna kill you" bullshit. HA HA HA.

See I have no problem with someone letting my cats know not to come back to there place...I'm in the process of scaring of some persons cat from mine, but in a non injuring way (e.g. throwing soft stuff at them etc)...but if you do damage...thats another story

EDIT: only reason I'm doing this is because its started to piss on my house and car.

[u4ea]

Ive had many cats over the years.All of them strays and all of them I had neitered or speyed.The SPCA new me well as I would borrow cages for sick cats or get a discount on the desexing:niceone:.my vet bills were narly.:doh:Fortunatly where I live now there isnt as much of a problem and I have my 3 boys which Ive had for years.Its the same as kids..people who are responsible will do the right thing.I would happily register my cats but as I never colar them for fear of them getting caught up in a tree,it would have to be a microchip.My cats are too well fed and too lazy to bother catching wildlife but in saying that they are still capable:pinch:.I would have no problem keeping them in at night if it was made law but the motley crew(my cats) wouldnt like it as they are far too long in the tooth to be retrained. :oi-grr:

[-df-]

Bring it on pussies.

sweet, I'll grab my 2 pussies and set them lose on ya

[jrandom]

I like cats. I've had lots of them.

There was one hanging around my neighbourhood once, though, that was beating up on my wee kitten and terrorising the neighbour's cat. Poor neighbour had her cat on fucking antidepressants because its behaviour had gone so wacko under the stress.

So I enticed the unspayed tom in question into my backyard with a plate of mince, gave it a pat, shot it in the back of the head with the .22, put it in a rubbish bag and stuffed it in my wheelie bin.

In the end, they're just animals. They should be treated with care and respect, never cruelly, but not anthropomorphised.

[Fatjim]

See I have no problem with someone letting my cats know not to come back to there place...I'm in the process of scaring of some persons cat from mine, but in a non injuring way (e.g. throwing soft stuff at them etc)...but if you do damage...thats another story

EDIT: only reason I'm doing this is because its started to piss on my house and car.

The soft stuff doesn't work. Cats don't scare that way. Their built in defense mechanism deals with soft toys and yelling. Not until you actually scare the shit out of it and it thinks it was lucky to get out alive will it decide not to come back, and even then some of more plucky/stupid ones ignore that as well. I have years of feline psychology experience behind me, believe me I know what I'm talking about.

You give the cat one chance to learn, but you have to "learn" it well. After that it "swims with the fishes".

[cheese]

Fucking sick cunt. He should be locked up.

[Hitcher]

The only real solution to the ecological damage caused by cats is to ban and eradicate. A cat is a natural-born killer, and one that kills for sport as well as food.

I love cats. So do lots of other people, which means that the chances of any politician seeking to curtail feline existance is remote, and therefore it is more than likely that stupid legislation will be enacted to "manage" the problems cats cause.

[Animal]

I've had my own cats come flying back across the neighbours fence soaked to the skin, but I was okay with this because my neighbour had the balls and decency to come over and discuss the issue he had with my cats hunting tree-rats in his yard. I acknowleged his viewpoint and disapproval, explained that cats don't define their boundaries by fences and gates - as we do, but suggested that he turns the hosepipe onto them if he sees them in his yard. He's only had to do this twice, now the little buggers avoid his place like it's diseased. However, if he was going to trap and drown them like the oxygen thief under discussion, I would most certainly fuck him up. There's no courage and decency in his proposed solution.

[Paul in NZ]

but not anthropomorphised.

Cool - I had to look that one up!

[Paul in NZ]

Fucking sick cunt. He should be locked up.

Well he sure highlighted his concern / cause / opinion - sick maybe - clever use of the media - YUP!

[Beemer]

I like cats. I've had lots of them.

There was one hanging around my neighbourhood once, though, that was beating up on my wee kitten and terrorising the neighbour's cat. Poor neighbour had her cat on fucking antidepressants because its behaviour had gone so wacko under the stress.

So I enticed the unspayed tom in question into my backyard with a plate of mince, gave it a pat, shot it in the back of the head with the .22, put it in a rubbish bag and stuffed it in my wheelie bin.

In the end, they're just animals. They should be treated with care and respect, never cruelly, but not anthropomorphised.

I'm a real cat lover but even I have done a similar thing before. We lived in town and this unneutered tom cat was crapping on our back door mat (it would do this about five minutes after we got home!) and attacking our cats. We asked around the neighbourhood and no one knew where it came from and there were other reports of it attacking people's cats so I wasn't prepared to put up with it. We got a trap from the council and baited it. The first night we caught the neighbour's timid cat (which was NEVER seen on our section again, poor thing!) but the following night we got the tom cat. It was the nastiest thing I have ever seen - covered in scars and scabs and obviously not looked after by anyone. The council had it put down because it was so vicious.

When we moved to the country we thought that would be a thing of the past but our former neighbours also had an unneutered tom and it attacked all three of our cats, doing quite a bit of damage (like $1000 in vet bills all-up). They refused to keep it in at night (when it was coming over to our place and attacking our cats on our own doorstep) and I admit I dreamt of catching it and taking it far, far away - I could never kill it myself but I wished it dead every day. Unfortunately the neighbours owned guns that they used to shoot birds and rabbits and I was petrified of them retaliating against our cats so I did nothing. But we did throw a party the day they moved out!

I accept that some cats kill birds but ours rarely do because they are well fed (not that being well fed stops them) and also very lazy! They do catch mice though, so that's a bonus. I have no problem with feral cats being caught and either neutered or euthanised (if they are causing a problem), but I do have a problem with pets being targeted.

My husband doesn't believe this guy actually does kill cats, but I bet he has told his neighbours what he will do if he catches their cats on his property and they act accordingly. I wonder what he would do if anyone did anything cruel to his dog? I bet he would be disgusted, and if he really does drown cats, he deserves to be prosecuted. Nasty old prick!

[Deano]

Why do we need to register cats?

Traceability and identification, and also to see that every registered cat has been desexed (unless you are a regsitered breeder).

I don't condone drowning them as per the old bugger in the article, but in some instances they do cause problems, particularly when there are 20
odd cats on one property.

There should be a limit to the number of cats you can keep on any one property, just like dogs.

I know of a woman who caught toxoplasmosis while gardening, because her nutty old lady neighbour had 20 odd cats defecating about the place - none were desexed.

Toxoplasmosis can cause abortion of foetuses, so it is a concern.

Cats don't cause problems ? They should be regulated by some means.


and therefore it is more than likely that stupid legislation will be enacted to "manage" the problems cats cause.

A simple registration procedure that requires desexing and limiting numbers would be a practicable means to reduce numbers and allow a higher level of control.

[Paul in NZ]

Nasty old prick!

Hey! Thats not illegal is it? Crikey - they would never let me out...

[Hitcher]

A simple registration procedure that requires desexing and limiting numbers would be a practicable means to reduce numbers and allow a higher level of control.

It doesn't work for dogs, that are arguably easier to contain and manage than cats. Monty Python invented the Cat Detector Van 30 years ago (cunningly disguised as a vehicle from the Ministry of Housinge). They thought they were taking the piss.

[Deano]

It doesn't work for dogs, that are arguably easier to contain and manage than cats.

I'm not suggesting containment or managing the movement of the cat itself - but there should be a cat limit per property, and they should be desexed.

How big a dog problem would there be if there was no registration process at all ?

And is it the registration process or lack of enforcement that is contributing to the country's dog problems ?

Funny how Auckland City Council animal control officers can suddenly issue several hundred fines to people in one week after an attack and public outcry, yet the normal number of fines issued on a daily basis is a pittence.

Let's face it - no system is perfect when you have people who aren't interested in complying with the law. At least with a certified number of cats per property, and a requirement to desex, you at least have a basis for taking enforcement action.

My 2c.

[Animal]

I'm a real cat lover but even I have done a similar thing before.

Likewise. I have more respect for cats than I do for a lot of people. Despite this, I have also shot a few that have attacked my pet cats. Never the most pleasant thing to do, but cats that are obviously feral are a problem.

Relying on our government to do anything effective would be asking too much, but rather than trying to legislate the problem away, wouldn't it be great if people were offered a practical (cash) incentive for neutering / spaying their cats? Vets and the SPCA could be heavily subsidised / rewarded for the number of sterilisations they carry out. You'd find that if people had a real incentive, the stray / feral cat problem would diminish rapidly.

Vote for me!

[Animal]

Traceability and identification, and also to see that every registered cat has been desexed (unless you are a regsitered breeder).

Snip

A simple registration procedure that requires desexing and limiting numbers would be a practicable means to reduce numbers and allow a higher level of control.

Agreed. I have had a long and entertaining sequence of purebred Siamese cats, which cost a bit of money in purchase, desexing, and ongoing vet costs, yet their emotional value to me is significantly higher. I'd happily register and microchip them so that if in the even that they got lost, I'd have some hope of them being traced back to me and returned.

I'm drawn to microchipping as a method of registration / identification because I seem to be forever replacing the collars and name tags that my cats seem to lose on a regular basis.

[avgas]

Ha, the first 'cat' forum on the internet that doesn't have pictures.

[Skunk]

Bring it on pussies.
Your avatar is in memory of Uncle B who loved cats - yet you want to kill them?

[Dilligaf]

While I certainly get exasperated with the neighbourhood cats using my garden as their kitty litter (and I bought the Skunk shot but must have the only cats with no sense of smell around here as one bugger sat right next to a big dob of it on the fence), I certainly would not harm one.
But in Australia, you must register and keep your cat restricted the same as a dog. Because they kill so many birds.
I must admit with your whole flightless bird thing when I rang our local council to find out what I could do about neighbours cats coming onto my property, I was surprised that I could do nothing. In Australia, owners could be fined exactly the same as for having a dog roaming freely.
And for those who say that cats are harmless - their shit isn't. Can cause death in foetuses.

[The Pastor]

just shoot wild and stray cats.

[The Pastor]

i HAVE A PROBLEM SOVLER AND HIS NAME IS REVOLVER

[Sanx]

just shoot wild and stray cats

i HAVE A PROBLEM SOVLER AND HIS NAME IS REVOLVER

About the sort of intelligent considered response I'd expect from you...

My partnerand I are owned by two cats. They graciously allow us to live in our house and feed them. The cats are both de-sexed, microchipped. Despite being well-fed and well-pampered, they do both manage to - when they're phenomenally lucky - catch something feathered. Most of the time, the ginger one just curls up on his couch and the fluffy gay-looking one makes do with viciously hunting earthworms. I'm not sure what my response would be to anyone who killed my pets deliberately, but I'd like to think it would be something that carried a pretty hefty jail sentence.

Unless you have a real problem animal, there is no point in killing it anyway. For the majority of stray or feral cats, a good blast from a garden hose does the trick and persuades them that returning is not such a great idea. We had one such feral cat in our house not so long ago. Vicious snarling spitting bundle of fury. I eventually managed to catch it (it bit a hole through the armour of my three-day old Rev'It gloves in doing so), put it in a cage, gave it a thorough soaking and then took it down to my local vet where they performed a quick emasculation and let it go.

Why did they let it go? Easy - killing a feral cat leaves a vacuum into which other feral cats move. By desexing them and letting them go, you introduce a blocker cat into the area; it prevents new feral cats moving in, but can't breed. Many cat rescue places do exactly the same thing as it keeps the population under far better control than simply shooting all the feral cats you can find. Requiring normal house cats to be desexed would work in the long run, but it would be virtually impossible to police and enforce.

[Mully]

I reckon it was all bullshit.

I doubt the old prick had the grapes to do it. All he did was threaten the old biddy next door that he would, and she was so scandalised that she rang Campbell Live (which is known a a hotbed of journalistic integrity), and it was blown up.

Certainly got people talking about Campbell Live, and I bet their website hits are up.

[Animal]

just shoot wild and stray cats.

Oh damn, and I was just about to send you several hundred dollars worth of CAD work... oh, well.:bye:

[007XX]

Oh damn, and I was just about to send you several hundred dollars worth of CAD work... oh, well.:bye:

:2thumbsup Love your work! (as always:hug:) :laugh:

[Fatjim]

Your avatar is in memory of Uncle B who loved cats - yet you want to kill them?

I can't possibly comment.

[The Pastor]

About the sort of intelligent considered response I'd expect from you...

My partnerand I are owned by two cats. They graciously allow us to live in our house and feed them. The cats are both de-sexed, microchipped. Despite being well-fed and well-pampered, they do both manage to - when they're phenomenally lucky - catch something feathered. Most of the time, the ginger one just curls up on his couch and the fluffy gay-looking one makes do with viciously hunting earthworms. I'm not sure what my response would be to anyone who killed my pets deliberately, but I'd like to think it would be something that carried a pretty hefty jail sentence.

Unless you have a real problem animal, there is no point in killing it anyway. For the majority of stray or feral cats, a good blast from a garden hose does the trick and persuades them that returning is not such a great idea. We had one such feral cat in our house not so long ago. Vicious snarling spitting bundle of fury. I eventually managed to catch it (it bit a hole through the armour of my three-day old Rev'It gloves in doing so), put it in a cage, gave it a thorough soaking and then took it down to my local vet where they performed a quick emasculation and let it go.

Why did they let it go? Easy - killing a feral cat leaves a vacuum into which other feral cats move. By desexing them and letting them go, you introduce a blocker cat into the area; it prevents new feral cats moving in, but can't breed. Many cat rescue places do exactly the same thing as it keeps the population under far better control than simply shooting all the feral cats you can find. Requiring normal house cats to be desexed would work in the long run, but it would be virtually impossible to police and enforce.


Oh damn, and I was just about to send you several hundred dollars worth of CAD work... oh, well.:bye:

I don't think you guys have met a wild stray cat, they are nothing like pets and should be shot on sight. My mate works for DOC and they pay him to shoot on sight. You're all a bunch of emo lovin inbreadhippies who don't know dick.

[Animal]

...You're all a bunch of emo lovin inbreadhippies who don't know dick.

That's correct. I'm straight. Do you know dick?

[Paul in NZ]

Trust the aussies to sus it out...

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9703/14/aussie.cats/index.html?iref=newssearch

Nah yeah nah yeah mate... tastes like a raw prwn cobber - say - chuck another moggie on the barbie mate...

[Animal]

I got an excellent rabbit recipe from Swoop (on the firearms thread). It was bloody awesome.

[The Pastor]

cats are a pest, like rabbits but far worse, the kelsi virus worked ok for a few years, lets do the same to the cats.

[The Pastor]

hell why not have a "shoot a wild cat day" make it like a fair type thing in every center around nz, have the goverment give out $1 for every cat killed. sorta like a fox hunt. (obviously not in citys, but rual areas). thats a damn fine idea.

[Joni]

I did not watch the programme for a few reasons, then last night one of my favourite DJ's who is also a cat lover played this mans "interview" on the radio and asked for people to help stop this man. (Go Stables!!!)

This kind of crap really upsets me deaply and makes me question what some people are made off on a moral fibre... then I read this thread and see thats its more than one arse out to shock the world... people can be such arses at times!

[caesius]

I do remember a certain SPCA being pulled up a long time ago over their method of getting rid of stray animals. It consisted of a wet sack and an exhaust...

[Spyke]

i found one of the possum traps good. bait it than wait till the little bugger has finished shitting everywhere and decides he wants a feed and goes to eat the bait, then the cage closes and hes stuck, then take a water gun give him a good fright and let it go. works a treat.

but anything inhumane is wrong to the bones.

[MyGSXF]

Me & my family are all big cat lovers!! My olds had a problem with a neighbours cat coming over & terrorising my cat (who resided at their place at the time) & coming in the catdoor & eating the catfood. :argh:

They borrowed a cage from the local vet & put it inside the catdoor at night. They caught the pesky cat.. took it outside & set the hose on it while it was locked in the cage.. then let it go

Never had a problem with it coming back again!!!! :banana:

[lb99]

See I have no problem with someone letting my cats know not to come back to there place...I'm in the process of scaring of some persons cat from mine, but in a non injuring way (e.g. throwing soft stuff at them etc)...but if you do damage...thats another story

EDIT: only reason I'm doing this is because its started to piss on my house and car.

ever had one piss on your hemet, cause you thought you were entitled to leave the helmet on your own doorstep, or piss on your kids carseat when you park the car with the window open?

an hour under the laundry basket with the lawn sprinkler for company and I never saw him again

[avgas]

Cats are people too.
Just like those unemployed, lazy people.

[Animal]

i found one of the possum traps good. bait it than wait till the little bugger has finished shitting everywhere and decides he wants a feed and goes to eat the bait, then the cage closes and hes stuck, then take a water gun give him a good fright and let it go. works a treat.

but anything inhumane is wrong to the bones.

Well said, that man. I've done the same to cats I've not wanted in my yard, and encouraged my neighbours to do the same to my cats if they were being a nuisance in theirs.

A far better approach than some gun-happy hyper-sensitive possibly premenstrual juvenile Rambo wannabes... ah, fuckit. I've made my point. :2guns:

Ah, this so cracks me up! :lol:

[Animal]

Hmmm... a common trend appearing here. Unwelcome cats, traps, cages, garden sprinklers... And all of them completely successful.

[Street Gerbil]

Drowning stray cats is radical. However declawing and neutering them all is quite a reasonable measure. What's cat's lifespan anyway?

[Dave Lobster]

What's cat's lifespan anyway?

Far longer if you look after then properly.

My aunt has two cats that are approaching the age of 20. Neither are allowed out to trespass. Both are declawed. Both are leading happy lives.

[Toaster]

Dogs have owners, Cats have staff .:blip:

As for the idjit on tv3 :bash::finger:

Agreed. The guy is a complete turd and should be given his own medicine. Thoughtless selfish small minded prick.

[jafar]

Agreed. The guy is a complete turd and should be given his own medicine. Thoughtless selfish small minded prick.

Sounds like a plan , I can get a drum & we can all piss in it, then drown the old git :shit:

[bandit_girl]

I completely agree with you Mole c.

[_Shrek_]

:Oi: if you see the damage that cats do to our wild life i wonder if you would be cat lovers
i like cats if they belong to some one else or dead :bleh:

[iwilde]

Use a shotgun instead of drowning. Quicker and more humane.

[JimO]

i hate cats...so does charles

[flame]

Neither are allowed out to trespass. Both are declawed. Both are leading happy lives.

Im not a cat lover, infact, apart from my work I tend to avoid them. However, declawing is not the making of a 'happy' cat!:nono: equivilant to tail docking etc??? Our practice policy is against it, as are many. I guess it's equivilent to removing all your finger/toenails (including the nail bed itself......sounds painful to me!!), only we don't rely on them half as much a a cat. Your aunt has removed all her cats natural inhibitions! I would suspect they would be better off humanly bopped, and she should replace them with goldfish!:done:

[Tonka]

So don't drown cats.
Or I'll come over and punch you in the face.


Fair enough Steam....:Punk:

[mstriumph]

:sweatdrop
Well cats aren't innocent :innocent: Dogs don't sneak into peoples homes and pee all over their furniture, a cat bite can cause a nasty infection, a cat claw swipe to the eyes (or anywhere else) can cause irrepairable damage, Pet rabbits, birds and guinea pigs get killed causing emotional trauma to children,the neighbours cat shitting in their garden or elsewhere can cause a pregnant woman to lose her unborn child.....need I go on

Non of which makes it onto the 6.00pm news - unlike dog news

same same like people really
some are upfront, honorable, upright - like dogs
some are devious, self-serving, arse-licking and smarmy - like cats:sunny:



*thinks - hope our cat doesn't see this post ............ :sweatdrop*