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Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 20:27
Before i start i just want vtr riders to know that im not being a smart arse.

Im currently on a 05 zx6rr. I currently have no licence due to being pinged at 143. Cheeky cop even got me 4hrs after he recorded my speed and rego. (the car behind me was caining it too). So this copa bust the car that was behind me, then comes and sees me at home later to give me a ticket and take my licence. Anyway im not after sympathy because i knew what i was doing and must live with the concquences. (do the crime, do the time)

I have been thinking that my bike loves going hard and is built more for the track than for the road,(Nothing groundbreaking there). Also i hate riding in sixth gear doing 110 kays, The bike is no fun there, I love ringing the shit out of it to be honnest. I cant afford the money or time to get into track riding, so maybe a change of bike?

Was thinking of a vtr 1000 as i do alot of open road long distance trips, my wife loves riding two up and i quiet liked having a pack rack in the past as they are bloody handy. If i put a pack rack on my zx6 i would proberbly get beaten up, (and rightly so). I also have an old knee injury that dosen't like sports bikes so much after an hr or so.

Im not saying vtr's are slow old person bikes, but are they less encouraging to cain? are they more comfortable on long distance? i assume they are great two up? can you happly sit on 110. I do know they sound bloody cool.

Or do i just have to pull my head in and ride like a nanna, show some self controll?

megageoff76
4th September 2007, 20:38
I dont think it would make any difference if your a habitual speeder mate.
I find that with having a big lazy motor, is that you find your speed creeps up even easier as it never feels as though the motor is working very hard.

Hitcher
4th September 2007, 20:44
Check out skidMark's slowing down thread. And be amazed.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=56398

Pumba
4th September 2007, 20:45
My experience with the Vtwin, they dont go any slower, there is just no need to change gears as often.

No ofence but judging by you attitude you just need to learn to slow down, or do what I did and by a radar detector:laugh:

Ocean1
4th September 2007, 20:46
You're not alone in thinking typical in-line 4 sprotsbikes are boring at legal speeds. I like big V twins for keeping your licence, one of the main criteria for me choosing a Buell. If you haven't ridden a VTR any distance give it a shot, one of the local shops should let you do an extended test ride.

Oh, and pull your head in anyway, nanas enjoy it longer.

PS: Buell XB12S?

NighthawkNZ
4th September 2007, 20:47
or do i just have to pull my head in and ride like a nanna, show some self controll?

You answered your own question there...

Although it may not be as fast at the top end as the ZX6r the VTR is more than capable of riding at speeds of loosing your license... even if you are two up and fully laiden with luggage and as megageoff76 says it creeps up on you because you don't feel the pull... but you look down at your speedo and say shit I doing...

HungusMaximist
4th September 2007, 20:50
Have you considered in giving your bike away?

Grub
4th September 2007, 20:53
I cant afford the money or time to get into track riding,

It'd be cheaper than the fines .... and how much time are you wasting catching the bus when you should be riding?

Romeo
4th September 2007, 21:02
Get a 250, speeding problem solved ;D. At least if the adrenaline gets to you it'll take a while for it to get up to criminal speeds.

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:08
Have you considered in giving your bike away?

no




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Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:11
It'd be cheaper than the fines .... and how much time are you wasting catching the bus when you should be riding?

ive had a one off fine of $600. after set of tyres i wouldnt get much change, so im not that conviced on the cheapness of track riding full time.

07fatboy
4th September 2007, 21:13
Before i start i just want vtr riders to know that im not being a smart arse.

Im currently on a 05 zx6rr. I currently have no licence due to being pinged at 143. Cheeky cop even got me 4hrs after he recorded my speed and rego. (the car behind me was caining it too). So this copa bust the car that was behind me, then comes and sees me at home later to give me a ticket and take my licence. Anyway im not after sympathy because i knew what i was doing and must live with the concquences. (do the crime, do the time)

I have been thinking that my bike loves going hard and is built more for the track than for the road,(Nothing groundbreaking there). Also i hate riding in sixth gear doing 110 kays, The bike is no fun there, I love ringing the shit out of it to be honnest. I cant afford the money or time to get into track riding, so maybe a change of bike?

Was thinking of a vtr 1000 as i do alot of open road long distance trips, my wife loves riding two up and i quiet liked having a pack rack in the past as they are bloody handy. If i put a pack rack on my zx6 i would proberbly get beaten up, (and rightly so). I also have an old knee injury that dosen't like sports bikes so much after an hr or so.

Im not saying vtr's are slow old person bikes, but are they less encouraging to cain? are they more comfortable on long distance? i assume they are great two up? can you happly sit on 110. I do know they sound bloody cool.

Or do i just have to pull my head in and ride like a nanna, show some self controll?

Harry ya barstard SLOW DOWN

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:24
or maybe even getting a cruiser. With reguards to the vtr , i am we aware thay can go hard if you want but what i was getting at was how they like to be ridden. For example when i was 18 or so i had a mini GT1275 that i used to ring the poop out of as it was great fun for a $2000 car at a bit of speed. My next car was a chrysler Valliant Charger with a Hemi 265, extractors etc. I cruised around in the charger way slower than i did in the mini because of the feel and the experiance. Not because it was slower.
Thats kinda what im getting at.

This is the first speeding offence ive had and am trying to gear myself up to not repeat it but the zx6rr just hates doing a hunna on an empty, dry, open road. It's just a fact. im not being imature its just how it is.

NighthawkNZ
4th September 2007, 21:27
This is the first speeding offence ive had and am trying to gear myself up to not repeat it but the zx6rr just hates doing a hunna on an empty, dry, open road. It's just a fact. im not being imature its just how it is.

Does the bike hate it or your hate it????

07fatboy
4th September 2007, 21:29
Dont do that...the torque is addicting.I find i tend to go abit harder to get the same feel as a sprot bike...so in the end you end up going harder

canarlee
4th September 2007, 21:31
buy a hardly then!




bugger, i forgot that you actually want to get to your destination!

puddytat
4th September 2007, 21:35
Get a radar detector bro....& you gotta do some trackdays,nothing like ringin her kneck & I found that it satisfied me enough to slow down a bit on the road...:spanking:

NighthawkNZ
4th September 2007, 21:36
Dont do that...the torque is addicting.I find i tend to go abit harder to get the same feel as a sprot bike...so in the end you end up going harder

and thats what I find the V-Twins (well mine) seems to like. They are big and lazy and you have to work them to wake them up...

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:41
Does the bike hate it or your hate it????

My bike dose, it told me. Can you seriously not see where im comming from?

cowboyz
4th September 2007, 21:47
well I will stick up for you a little bit. I know what you mean. 143k/hr and the 9 is still just ticking over.

For sure, sometimes I like to cruise around the countryside slowly and take in the scenery. Only problem with that idea is "cruise round the contryside slowly" translates to "a menace to society and a danger to all children everywhere"

Criusing at 120-130-140km.hr doesnt feel fast. Doesnt feel dangerous and the bike feels much more comfortable than at 100k.hr. 100k and it feels like you are doing 60 on the open road.

As far as suggestions for bikes go. The ER6 is a nice bike to ride with limited power and it likes to sit on 100km/hr. Might be a little small for 2up riding though.

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:51
buy a hardly then!




bugger, i forgot that you actually want to get to your destination!

i'm only 25 and i dont have the belly for a harley. Also im not allowed a beard because of work. Thats why i was kinda thinking of going maybe more for a touring/sports touring bike instead of a full on sports bike.

although im working on the belly.:drool:

cowboyz
4th September 2007, 21:55
Get a radar detector bro....& you gotta do some trackdays,nothing like ringin her kneck & I found that it satisfied me enough to slow down a bit on the road...:spanking:

Trackdays are fun for sure but I struggle for 2 reasons.


They are either:

1. Damn expensive ($130 for an hour on the track (5x20mins max) when I can go out the back roads which are always open and thrash it out for a while and risk not paying anything for the adventure.

2. Kwakas dont do sponsered trackdays. Suzuki have got a good thing going with their $50 trackdays. Unfortunately kwakas are not invited.

If i could get on the track for $50 /month then it might just see me out from thrashing it out on the road. But the oppourtunity isn't there or it is not finanically viable.

Now other side of the coin (just to keep my reputation in tact) is I went for a ride on sunday and the GPS recorded a top speed of 122km/hr. That was a fun ride but doesn't negate the points above.

NighthawkNZ
4th September 2007, 21:56
Criusing at 120-130-140km.hr doesnt feel fast. Doesnt feel dangerous and the bike feels much more comfortable than at 100k.hr. 100k and it feels like you are doing 60 on the open road.


Yes I know that feeling even on the vtr...

canarlee
4th September 2007, 21:57
lol


mate i got me a sports tourer as such (bandit 1250 half faired) and nope, it dont like going slow.

as said by others, an ER6 type bike or a custom cruiser i think is the only way to really slow down. or maybe a naked? (bike or bird or both lol) something like a hornet 900? its big enough to go 2 up but you get a lot of windblast at too high a speed but still awesome in the bendy bits.

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 21:59
hey cheers. Someone who is honnest about motorcycle riding. Not aimed so much at people on this thread but so many bikers talk as if they have never broken a speed limit in their life. Insted of getting off their high horse they try and attack your charcter.

I never speed in residential areas, near schools, clubs etc. Now and then on the open road i exceed 100 kays. Who honestlty dosent?

All im realy after is a bike with balls that dosent mind cruising at 110 for prolonged periods without making you feel like your doing two thousand revs above idle with 11 thousand more to go to redline. Unfortunitly thats what the ninja is doing!

bell
4th September 2007, 22:02
im not being imature its just how it is.

We're not fooled that easily Harry.

90s
4th September 2007, 22:03
Rising a sports bike then the most fun is riding fast and exploiting the bike. This may or may not constitute dangerous driving, but will likey as not be above legal speeds and you have already paid the price there.

So it sounds you are ready for another type of riding. Touring with the misses, and getting your fun getting places as well as in wringing the hell out of a bike. A sport tourer like my ole gal is quite capable to tearing it up when you fancy, able to do the longer haul (although obviously a 1000 would be better there) two up and relaxed enough to tick over in 6th on the highway without you wanting to tear your hair out.
You don't have to get a harley to ride a more relaxed way and enjoy more than speed along you journey.

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 22:12
Rising a sports bike then the most fun is riding fast and exploiting the bike. This may or may not constitute dangerous driving, but will likey as not be above legal speeds and you have already paid the price there.

So it sounds you are ready for another type of riding. Touring with the misses, and getting your fun getting places as well as in wringing the hell out of a bike. A sport tourer like my ole gal is quite capable to tearing it up when you fancy, able to do the longer haul (although obviously a 1000 would be better there) two up and relaxed enough to tick over in 6th on the highway without you wanting to tear your hair out.
You don't have to get a harley to ride a more relaxed way and enjoy more than speed along you journey.


Thats a good point. Ive been thinking about how i used to ride and why. Ive been riding on and off road bikes for 17 yrs now and ive found since buying my first sports bike (92 ZXR750) im more speed orientated. As for when i was riding earlyer in my life it was for the pure enjoyment of it.

86GSXR
4th September 2007, 22:23
The Daytona hates top gear at 100 k too. What about staying in 4th or 5th on the main roads, that way you'll still get the feel of the mid range, works for me when I'm on the main highways. And if you get a bigger sport cruiser, then do the same. And besides, you don't have to stick to main roads, much better riding to be had on the back roads, and the wife will enjoy them as well. Good luck :yes:

jafar
4th September 2007, 23:00
Thats a good point. Ive been thinking about how i used to ride and why. Ive been riding on and off road bikes for 17 yrs now and ive found since buying my first sports bike (92 ZXR750) im more speed orientated. As for when i was riding earlyer in my life it was for the pure enjoyment of it.

You need to figure out what is important to you. Is giving your sportsbike a good caning the bee all & end all or is their more to bikes than that?
Don't make the assumption that sportstourers or cruisers are slow, they are not.They are very different to ride than the full on sportsbike & have more usable power for road work & carrying a pillion than a sports model,usually have a better seating position as well. They are designed for the road whereas a sports model is designed for the track & road riding is secondary to their main purpose.
Horses for courses as they say.

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 23:46
You need to figure out what is important to you. Is giving your sportsbike a good caning the bee all & end all or is their more to bikes than that?
Don't make the assumption that sportstourers or cruisers are slow, they are not.They are very different to ride than the full on sportsbike & have more usable power for road work & carrying a pillion than a sports model,usually have a better seating position as well. They are designed for the road whereas a sports model is designed for the track & road riding is secondary to their main purpose.
Horses for courses as they say.

Fair call. I think when i get my licence back in 22 days (not that im counting:bye:) ill have to go and test ride a few different styles. I was on a ride to okoririe a few months back and a guy was on a vtr and he was bloody moving. I know they (sports tourers) arnt slow but i think maybe they are better at going slow (100kph) if you know what i mean.

canarlee
4th September 2007, 23:50
but i think maybe they are better at going slow (100kph) if you know what i mean.

wrong!

they are better at going faster for longer distances than sports bikes! more comfortable, generally less windblast, etc.

try a naked bike!

Harry the Barstard
4th September 2007, 23:58
wrong!

they are better at going faster for longer distances than sports bikes! more comfortable, generally less windblast, etc.

try a naked bike!

Bugger, thats it settled then. Im gunna have to get out and test ride heaps of different bikes. Cheers for comments, its always good to get different angles on things. You never know all i may need is a louder pipe to make me think im going faster, and to keep out of top gear.

Cheers anyways

jafar
5th September 2007, 00:45
Bugger, thats it settled then. Im gunna have to get out and test ride heaps of different bikes. Cheers for comments, its always good to get different angles on things. You never know all i may need is a louder pipe to make me think im going faster, and to keep out of top gear.

Cheers anyways

While you have the time have a GOOD think about what you want in a bike.
A naked has a certain appeal & is a practical option for distance riding & a sane(ish) pace. A cruiser may suit you better especially if you intend on taking your lady with you.
Or you could end up with both :argh:

Gremlin
5th September 2007, 01:34
Look at nakeds... it doesn't exactly solve the problem, but trust me, you'll get more jollies out of less speed, and still a blast in the corners. CB900 is good like that...

sportsbikes make mincemeat out of 200+. at 200, I had the cb900 weaving around, and the front light, like it was trying to take off... the most exciting 200 I have done :shit:

Cruisers caaan do your back in, depending how the seating position is, you'll have to try them all to find out (I'm sorry for inflicting this punishment on you :shifty:)

Grub
5th September 2007, 03:33
ive had a one off fine of $600. .

Agreed, but that's only *this* fine. In your own words, this is not a one-off because of the way you want to ride.

NighthawkNZ
5th September 2007, 07:15
Look at nakeds...

I look at naked females all the time... oh you mean bikes... :baby:

DMNTD
5th September 2007, 07:38
Look at nakeds... it doesn't exactly solve the problem, but trust me, you'll get more jollies out of less speed, and still a blast in the corners...

100% truth right there! :yes:

After getting pinged at a horrific speed on my ZX10 I decided to get something that was still fun but something that could do 100kmph "easier".
I decided on the KTM Superduke and hell,no regrets!!
I liked it so much that now I'm trying to sell my '07 ZX10R SE so I can buy the new Superduke R!

Now then...open roads the KTM is quite happy to pootle along at 100-120kmph and you know how fast you're going as opposed to "pootling" on the ZX10 where 200 odd kmph seems like walking. Oh don't get me wrong,it will grunt out to 240+ however it's not as effortless as a big inline 4.
In the corners it's actually faster (if wanted) than the ZX10....I was shocked TBH!
Long distance...divine! No cramps...can see everything especially when there's some lane splitting to be done. :yes:

I've been converted to the upright nekkids and I had always been a yeee haa inline 4 rider.

ceebie13
5th September 2007, 08:20
I've been converted to the upright nekkids and I had always been a yeee haa inline 4 rider.



What he said. Couldn't agree more. After three ZX9's the CB gives me just as much fun (not that I was a hoon on the nine in the first place). In fact it gives me more confidence too. It's heavier for sure but once on the move it's as nimble as a Rod Stewart at a debutante's ball!

Touring and local commutes are second nature too, so big nakeds seem perfect all-rounders. Yes, it will effortlessly propel you at illegal speeds, but this genre of bike isn't about breaking the land speed record..or your neck for that matter! This class of machine is proving more and more popular too apparently.

Pose value is pretty good too with many riders doing double takes... almost as if big muscle bikes had been forgotten about in a sea of sports machines. Blingability is another fun factor. Just make sure you have a deep wallet.

Talking of wallets...new CB is about $14750. (or was when I got mine a year ago) A lot of bike for not a lot of money some would say. Second-hand would be an even better bargain.

kiwifruit
5th September 2007, 08:26
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Radar-detectors/auction-116297696.htm

etc

Ocean1
5th September 2007, 09:04
I've never owned a big 4 cyl sprotbike so you can take my opinion accordingly. However, it's obvious to me that regardless of class some bikes do legal speeds better than others and I simply don't see the point in owning something that's only fun at insane velocities. Couple of suggestions already, the superduke in either of it's incarnations is fun, I suspect any of the hyper-motards would fill the same role. I can add the Aprillia SXV550 to that list and as I suggested earlier the Buell XB12S.

None of these will do the outright top speed of say an R1 or GSXR although they'll still lose your licence with 120K to spare. The point is that they're at least as fast in the tighter stuff, (just as much fun in the twisties and often quicker), and they don't behave like a psychotic maniac that's forgoten it's ritalin at legal highway speeds. The two things that contribute to this are typically a V twin emphisis on torque rather than hp and the geometry of a 250 GP bike. The style and riding position seems secondary, you can choose whatever suits your intended use.

The superduke and Buell are expensive and the Aprillia relatively new. I have tried a VTR but not enough to get a good feel, it certainly didn't "demand" to be ridden at more than 120 though. You really do need to review the budget and do a bit of test riding dude.

Harry the Barstard
5th September 2007, 11:38
well i suppose my budget is 10k ish as my bikes only done 5000kms, has a power comander, white power front folks, brand new pilots and is in mint condition. So pretty much what i can get for the 6 will be my spending money. You guys have given me alot to look at so ill be chasing it up.

Cheers

imdying
5th September 2007, 11:50
You want to swap with my avatar pic? My ZX6R wasn't much different ultimately to my SV1000 as far as how fast you can peddle it, but the 6R was a whole heap more fun to ride. I know where you're coming from though, the SV is a whole heap more fun when just plonking along, lazily rubbing out some great corners, the 6R took a whole heap more dedication and rewarded you duly.

/edit: And twins sound cooler when you're going slow, unlike a four going droooooonnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Solarwind
5th September 2007, 13:12
If you seriously think that buying a less "sporty" bike will make you ride slower... :laugh: I have a Kawasaki ER-5 (unfaired "retro" bike) and I still can't resist caning it at 160kph on SH1 when I think the cops aren't looking :whistle: Maybe you should buy a scooter? :scooter: My point is, it's your wrist that makes you speed, not your bike :)

Solarwind
5th September 2007, 13:34
My point was that a nekkid bike makes it easier to ride slower.

If that's true, then I'd better stick with my ER-5 and not buy that Hayabusa :yes:

Caning at 160kmph? My ZX10 does that in first and does it FAST.

Yeah, but this is an ER-5 I'm talking about. It has a drum brake on the rear, fergawdsake.

My Superduke is bloody quick however it's EASY to ride it at 100kmph

Maybe I'm just addicted to speed. Don't worry, I'm sure an instant-loss-of-license will cure me of that one day.

peasea
5th September 2007, 13:38
My experience with the Vtwin, they dont go any slower, there is just no need to change gears as often.

No ofence but judging by you attitude you just need to learn to slow down, or do what I did and by a radar detector:laugh:


....and a gun.

007XX
5th September 2007, 13:38
My point was that a nekkid bike makes it easier to ride slower.
Caning at 160kmph? My ZX10 does that in first and does it FAST.
My Superduke is bloody quick however it's EASY to ride it at 100kmph


So which one came with the "suicide gear shift" system??...:innocent:

But yes, I'd tend to agree that a naked one helps...

Ewan Oozarmy
5th September 2007, 14:01
My point was that a nekkid bike makes it easier to ride slower.
Caning at 160kmph? My ZX10 does that in first and does it FAST.
My Superduke is bloody quick however it's EASY to ride it at 100kmph


Agreed. Or possibly a fully fared litre IL4 bike makes it easier to ride faster. Whichever.

I used to ride these monsters but switched to Supermotos for 2 reasons:

1. I had 11 points on my license (12=ban) (of course I can still speed on a moto but it's just not as easy or comfortable....)
2. I used the bike to commute through London and just found the whole upright, flickable, wider steering lock, thing with motos worked better for this.

Still dream about another GSXR1000 though.....

klingon
5th September 2007, 16:40
I'll lend you my Volty

Harry the Barstard
5th September 2007, 17:33
100% truth right there! :yes:

After getting pinged at a horrific speed on my ZX10 I decided to get something that was still fun but something that could do 100kmph "easier".
I decided on the KTM Superduke and hell,no regrets!!
I liked it so much that now I'm trying to sell my '07 ZX10R SE so I can buy the new Superduke R!

Now then...open roads the KTM is quite happy to pootle along at 100-120kmph and you know how fast you're going as opposed to "pootling" on the ZX10 where 200 odd kmph seems like walking. Oh don't get me wrong,it will grunt out to 240+ however it's not as effortless as a big inline 4.
In the corners it's actually faster (if wanted) than the ZX10....I was shocked TBH!
Long distance...divine! No cramps...can see everything especially when there's some lane splitting to be done. :yes:

I've been converted to the upright nekkids and I had always been a yeee haa inline 4 rider.

Cheers, thats exactly the sort of thing im after. Do they go alright two up? I wont be doing much but i want the option if you know what i mean.

terbang
5th September 2007, 17:58
I went from a Hayabusa to the current, a Cagiva Navigator which is like a big traillie powered by a punchy TL1000 engine. It'll still do 240Kays but its one hell of a lot of fun on a tight piece of road... I'm sort of thinking KTM's as well for the future.

beyond
5th September 2007, 19:02
If you like speeding and moving fast, buying a naked will not slow you down.
I bought a GSX1400 cos I figured my youthful days of moving quick were over and a sports tourer would be the ticket.

The GSX1400 is the only bike you can buy brand new for $10.00 a CC.
$13995.00!!! They are way underestimated and awesome value for the price.

It wasn't long after I had it that the speeds were creeping up and after the first few rides through twisty roads, I relaised these machines could be tossed around like a sports bike once you set your suspension right and ride smoothly to make up for the lack of ground clearance.

They are an awesome all around machine, great for two up riding, easy to ride hard when you want to with all day comfort. Performance? 2.9 to 3 seconds to 100kmh. Torque just below the Busa but 90% of it available at 2000 rpm so fantastic for road riding and coming out of corners.

I have ridden mine fully pinned (without fairings remember) at 260kmh. A tight fitting set of leathers gives you streamlining, tucking your head well down and having a good streamlined helmet helps immensely as does ear plugs as at those speeds it's like riding into a tornado.

I regularly still see 200-230kmh speeds and have told myself over and over again when I go riding that I will not go over 140kmh but can't help it after a couple of minutes into a ride.

I do however have a top range detector which has saved me heaps of times.
I have actually pulled back riding hard considerable since after my off but still like to move at a reasonable pace. I too must slow down.

I have swapped with others and have ridden ZX14's, GSXR1000's including the latest, 600's, R1's etc and always just love geting back on my bike.

Did I mention that I love my GSX1400? :)

terbang
5th September 2007, 19:18
Did I mention that I love my GSX1400? :)
No, but I agree it is a great bike. I have allways looked at them as a sort of a behemoth tourer. Took Paul's for a wrap one day, mate it feels like a bike half its size, stable and it turned remarkably quick. All with a sensible riding position and stacks of torque. As one who has also (attempted) followed him over the Coro loop on more than one occasion I can vouch for its swift and nimble manner.

DMNTD
5th September 2007, 19:21
...As one who has also (attempted) followed him over the Coro loop on more than one occasion I can vouch for its swift and nimble manner.

I can and will definitely vouch for that! :scooter:

Harry the Barstard
5th September 2007, 19:47
Anyone keen on a 2005 ZX6RR mint condition,5000 kays, power comander, white power forks in kermit green?

MD
5th September 2007, 21:10
My 2cents worth. I've owned a VTR1000 and three 636s (05 and 06 models) and I found the 636s easier to ride at 100-110kph when trying to be legal. The VTR motor wasn't pleasant in that range and would creep up, whereas the 636 hummed comfortable at whatever you set it at and would not creep up on you.
The other advantage was that the 636 would get up and move much better when asked!
Stick with the 636

Harry the Barstard
23rd September 2007, 16:41
Great news,

I just brought an 05 CB900 Hornet. Its everything i wanted. Cheers DMNTD for getting me thinking about the Duke monster. I didnt have enough moey for the duke do i went for the Honda. I test rode heaps of bikes and found the hornet a great bike for a great price. Its awsome two up, suprisingly flickable in the corners and has a less thrash the shit out of me vibe than the 6rr had. Granted different bikes for different people and budgets but im stoked with this new purchase.

I was VERY concerned that i was shedding my sports bike love affair way to eary and getting a more middle aged persons bike too early. (no offence, but you know what i mean) Anyway, all my fears were unfounded and this bike is perfect for what i want to do. Its even kinda fun at legal speeds...(cant believe it).

Its realy put the fun in "just riding" for the enjoyment of it. I cant believe how well it handles for what it is. Only gripes are the windshield (removed on day one) looks like shet and she is pretty quiet.

Project, yay

Just want to thank everyone for their input and just letting you all know my next bike purchase was a complete succsess thanks to some of your input and different angles.

Its bloody raining.....gutted, wanna go for a hoon

tri boy
23rd September 2007, 16:57
Sounds like you made a great choice.:msn-wink:
And summers on the way. Yeeha:Punk:

surfchick
23rd September 2007, 18:04
Fair call. I think when i get my licence back in 22 days (not that im counting:bye:) ill have to go and test ride a few different styles. I was on a ride to okoririe a few months back and a guy was on a vtr and he was bloody moving. I know they (sports tourers) arnt slow but i think maybe they are better at going slow (100kph) if you know what i mean.

it's all in your head au! keep ya good bike, just chose roads with sweepers that cap at 120kph, keep her steady on the straight bits to keep mr plod out ofthe equation-and go back to the sweepers on your well selected road :devil2: problem solved. for free. :) ps. my bike will go 100 in 1st,second, and 4th, but is practically stalling in 5th and 6th. I swear to god it is possible to self-council yourself to ignore your top 3 gears on the straights by recounting the following "it's 600 bucks followed by no license"
"it's 600 bucks followed by no license"
"it's 600 bucks followed by no license"
"it's 600 bucks followed by no license"
"it's 600 bucks followed by no license"
oum oum oum oum

surfchick
23rd September 2007, 18:07
oh and don't ride with friends. they always make one speed if one is "prone" to speeding... ;) ba ha i've had the best ever afternoon talking shite...:):woohoo:

Bytor
23rd September 2007, 23:23
Great news,

I just brought an 05 CB900 Hornet. Its everything i wanted. Cheers DMNTD for getting me thinking about the Duke monster. I didnt have enough moey for the duke do i went for the Honda. I test rode heaps of bikes and found the hornet a great bike for a great price. Its awsome two up, suprisingly flickable in the corners and has a less thrash the shit out of me vibe than the 6rr had. Granted different bikes for different people and budgets but im stoked with this new purchase.

I was VERY concerned that i was shedding my sports bike love affair way to eary and getting a more middle aged persons bike too early. (no offence, but you know what i mean) Anyway, all my fears were unfounded and this bike is perfect for what i want to do. Its even kinda fun at legal speeds...(cant believe it).

Its realy put the fun in "just riding" for the enjoyment of it. I cant believe how well it handles for what it is. Only gripes are the windshield (removed on day one) looks like shet and she is pretty quiet.

Project, yay

Just want to thank everyone for their input and just letting you all know my next bike purchase was a complete succsess thanks to some of your input and different angles.

Its bloody raining.....gutted, wanna go for a hoon


Great choice Harry! I'm in the same situation - need to slow down and get a bike that's more comfortable. Test rode a Hornet on Saturday and was fairly impressed, although it was brand new with 0kms on it so I couldn't fang it, but the potential was there. A couple of annoying things I found - shite mirrors, no clock, dodgy bars and a far too quiet exhaust. The suspension got a little bouncy, but I could live with the adjustments - certainly would slow me down. The one big thing that I liked was I enjoyed the 'trip' and not the race like I would normally do. Tried a VTR1000 after and sure it sounded sweet with the aftermarket cans but I instantly reverted back to the 'race' mentality and the brakes where the worse I've ever had to use. Just want to try an SV1000 nekid and an older FZ1 now to compare.
Enjoy your ride.:niceone:

Harry the Barstard
24th September 2007, 15:26
Great choice Harry! I'm in the same situation - need to slow down and get a bike that's more comfortable. Test rode a Hornet on Saturday and was fairly impressed, although it was brand new with 0kms on it so I couldn't fang it, but the potential was there. A couple of annoying things I found - shite mirrors, no clock, dodgy bars and a far too quiet exhaust. The suspension got a little bouncy, but I could live with the adjustments - certainly would slow me down. The one big thing that I liked was I enjoyed the 'trip' and not the race like I would normally do. Tried a VTR1000 after and sure it sounded sweet with the aftermarket cans but I instantly reverted back to the 'race' mentality and the brakes where the worse I've ever had to use. Just want to try an SV1000 nekid and an older FZ1 now to compare.
Enjoy your ride.:niceone:


Cheers,

yeah the mirrors and bars are shite, they wont last long on the bike. the 2005 on have a clock. you have to push the mode button on the right hand side. The dealer tryed to tell me that they dont have a clock at cyclespot but they do.

I took a days leave from work just to ride all around the place and i am yet to speed. Im not a cockey punk who thinks hes rossi but i just found it hard to do that on the 6rr. Lovin the bike and would recomend to anyone, also went ont the nor westurn and at 100 the wind makes you feel like yr doing 150.

Anyway off to morrinsville via the tahuna rd.

HenryDorsetCase
24th September 2007, 15:40
given you will only be paying $11k or so for your hornet (buy a second hand one!... its a Honda so you should be fine) you will be able to spend money on bits to make it fit your riding better. The best money I spent on mine was suspension upgrade (Ohlins shock and new fork springs) followed by crash knobs and renthal bars.... everything else is fripperies. Do a search on KB for what people have done to theirs, theres some nicely customised ones about.

Harry the Barstard
24th September 2007, 17:58
given you will only be paying $11k or so for your hornet (buy a second hand one!... its a Honda so you should be fine) you will be able to spend money on bits to make it fit your riding better. The best money I spent on mine was suspension upgrade (Ohlins shock and new fork springs) followed by crash knobs and renthal bars.... everything else is fripperies. Do a search on KB for what people have done to theirs, theres some nicely customised ones about.

What size bars did u go for? F