Westfield Albany. Moving bikes.

[mitchilin]

I was at Westfield Albany ,the day before opening last month.There was no parking anywhere ,so had to park way down the road.Saw what I thought was a park,got closer and a little rg150 was in there earlier.I had to go back to my work truck a couple of hours later and walked past where this bike was legally parked and there was sumcun' moving it onto the footpath so he could take the park.He had a stupid grin on his face .I looked at him and said"If that was my bike I'd fucking smack ya."Wiped the grin off his face,but this opens some issues for me.I work for a high profile company that would not like me saying this kind of thing to the Public.Does anyone out think that moving bikes in carparks is acceptable?Do I need Anger Management?

[Toaster]

Does anyone out think that moving bikes in carparks is acceptable?Do I need Anger Management?

I work in Albany and parking is now a nightmare! Obviously they can't design shit in Auckland without screwing up the car parking and not providing anywhere near enough parks.

I would have told the guy to put it back and likley threatened to call or called the cops.... he has no right to touch it, let alone move it and is unlawfully interfering with the bike. No different to finding someone sitting in your convertible and playing with the knobs. No one should touch another persons bike without permission. :spanking:

[Katman]

Nah, I don't think so. If that had been my bike I would have fucking smacked him.:msn-wink:

[mitchilin]

I would have loved to give this person some attention,but because of time constraints westfuck management gave us a week to do a months work.The whole thing was a clusterfuck

[duckonin]

I work in Albany and parking is now a nightmare! Obviously they can't design shit in Auckland without screwing up the car parking and not providing anywhere near enough parks.

I would have told the guy to put it back and likley threatened to call or called the cops.... he has no right to touch it, let alone move it and is unlawfully interfering with the bike. No different to finding someone sitting in your convertible and playing with the knobs. No one should touch another persons bike without permission. :spanking:

:Police: no you don't need anger management, the above is true, you should of called the cops; Now if it had of been my bike and I caught him,I would of ripped his balls out, but If I left my bike unlocked and without a disc lock on it my wife would do it to me.:spanking:

[mitchilin]

I don't mean to be,like a condescending Akl'r but mate.This was in a high stress Aucklander kinda thing.Some of the contractors were having punchups by the end of the night.I did not have time to take a fucking shit.If anyone here worked on this "ongoing project?" add your 2 cents

[skidMark]

if it was my bike...i wouldve waited for him to move it....

then called up a towie afterhe left :)

and wait for him to come back....

with my bike back in the spot...

hey wheres my car?! did you see anything.

oh sorry i wanted the park...so i got it moved was a bit heavy so some people helped me move it...but then a towie said it was blocking a driveway and he took it away....

bwahahahah he wuldnt do it again....

[mitchilin]

As a biker I did what I could do and warned this cunt.I had no time to do anything else.I didn't care about this bike and I think I could not have not cared less about it.But, by simply being a member of a forum,like this,I feel I have much greater social responsibilty towards other bikers.

[R6_kid]

I've moved scooters over (very carefully) at uni, when they hadnt been thoughtful enough to know that other people want to park in the bike park too. Other than that I think you were well within your rights to say what you said.

It's not like you move someones car because it doesnt take up the whole carpark, and if the mall isn't providing a place for motorcycles to park where they aren't parked 'illegally' and aren't taking up more space than they need to then the guys problem is with the Mall Management, not the RG150 that is parked 100% legally.

[Katman]

But, by simply being a member of a forum,like this,I feel I have much greater social responsibilty towards other bikers.

Sorry, you had me right up until then.:msn-wink:

[mitchilin]

I think u have no way of treatment of me anyway.

[mitchilin]

I think u have no way of treatment of me anyway.
sorryiuygylbnknbuh

[Mole_C]

His car was probably still running, jump in it and start driving away. If he starts yelling at you just say you thought he wanted to swap :Oops:

[Rhino]

I would suggest that Toaster is quite correct. IANAL but, if my (old) memory is correct, technically the person could be charged with interfering with a motor vehicle. If convicted, it cost lots, in both money and other ways.

Try getting in to some countries with a conviction on your record :(

PS: If I'd caught anyone attempting to move the 'Wing, it would be deck em first, then ask what the f**k are you up to.:whistle:

[Toaster]

Further to my above post I would have loved to smack the living shit out of the little turd..... but that would be bad..... best leave the beatings to the cops..... "oooops mind ya head as you get in the car lad" (DONK DONK DONK........... DONK)......hehehe.

[peasea]

Get a gun and shoot the fuck.

[Toaster]

Get a gun and shoot the fuck.

preferably in the balls.... make him bleed. :buggerd:

[Swoop]

Cellphone,
Camera,
Photo of the prick doing anything to someone elses ride, and the cagers car with rego in full view...

"WTF do you think you were going to do!?"

[mitchilin]

shit lets see.,.

[discotex]

I've moved scooters over (very carefully) at uni, when they hadnt been thoughtful enough to know that other people want to park in the bike park too. Other than that I think you were well within your rights to say what you said.


Funny how often scooters do that. Drives me nuts in the carpark at work. bikers seem to try to take the minimum space so more bikes can fit in yet the scooters space themselves out so you could spin them around.


I looked at him and said"If that was my bike I'd fucking smack ya."Wiped the grin off his face,but this opens some issues for me.I work for a high profile company that would not like me saying this kind of thing to the Public.Does anyone out think that moving bikes in carparks is acceptable?Do I need Anger Management?

Nice work :Punk:

I agree with the calling the cops sentiment others have expressed but really what are they going to do. "Oh yes sir I'll dispatch a car right away.. We're attending burglaries in less than a week so we've got some spare time for you today..." Not having a go at the police - they've got more important shit to deal with frankly (like writing speeding tickets ;)).

If it was me I'd write the dude's rego down with my cell number and stick it on the bike in case they damaged it in any way.

[McDuck]

If i had the time and i could have stoped (driving with park) I would have sat on him and waitd untill the cop turned up. He was nicking it you see.

[Lteejay]

.....and there was sumcun' moving it onto the footpath so he could take the park..........

What an arsehole. Regardless of whether it was a bike or car, you dont move someone elses vehicle just because your a lazy arse who cant be fucked finding your own carpark.
If that had been my bike :mad: :angry2::bash:

[Grahameeboy]

What an arsehole. Regardless of whether it was a bike or car, you dont move someone elses vehicle just because your a lazy arse who cant be fucked finding your own carpark.
If that had been my bike :mad: :angry2::bash:

If he was a Kiwi I am not surprised but me suspects he was a biker........

Same attitude to mobility parking..........sorry but it is a Kiwi thing with parking in general............sorry.

[vifferman]

I work in Albany and parking is now a nightmare! Obviously they can't design shit in Auckland without screwing up the car parking and not providing anywhere near enough parks.
We checked out Albania Wetfield on Sunday - what a fucking crappy joke the parking is! One skinny driveway in/out, the lanes in the parking lot are all too narrow, the few 'covered' walkways are useless because the covers are too high and angled to assist the rain to blow in...
They had to have some guys directing parking because it's so difficult. Whoever designed the layout is a retard. It would've been better (and more efficient use of land) to have had a multi-tiered parking building under the mall (or adjacent to it). The mall has got some flak for being too much oriented to cars rather than being pedestrian-friendly, but IMHO it's not friendly fullstop.

[LilSel]

If anyone here worked on this "ongoing project?"

behind the scenes yes... 'Power'... def not the easiest mall we've done!!...
don mckinnon dr yeah?

[Tank]

I know the tow company that is working around Albany (I work in the office opp. Westfield). They have a dedicated car patrolling and clamping for about 4 hours a day at the moment - not only at Westfield but also in most of the carparks around it (pack+slave, placemakers, farmers, etc etc) because the tennants are annoyed with their parks being filled with staff from Westfield (who are not allowed to park in there - grrrr).

What would have been terrible is that the bike once moved onto the pavement from being leagally parked then got towed for no fault of the owner.


Guess it shows why we should use locks huh? (says me with no lock).

C

[McDuck]

disk locks are not that much you know.

[Karma]

just let down all the car tyres.

[Disco Dan]

just let down all the car tyres.

Superglue in the locks is a favourite too.... and while your at it, glue the tire valves.

[McDuck]

Superglue in the locks is a favourite too.... and while your at it, glue the tire valves.

milk on the heater intakes, but only if you could beat them in a scrap.

[Macktheknife]

Unlawful tampering with a vehicle, 'apprehend' vigourously, and call the constabulary. If it was my bike, or a bike I knew, take the photo in progress, apprehend vigourously, call for backup/coppers.
'No officer, I don't think it was unreasonable, do you know how many bikes have been stolen in the last month or so? and I finally caught one of the bastards red-handed.'
Alternately, wait until he has finished moving it, while taking photo's, then slap the crap out of him, and make him put it back.
Take more photo's of his car and tell him it will be circulated to a lot of large angry bikers who would take exception to this kind of behaviour.

[vifferman]

Hmmmm.
I just had the misfortune to visit the aforementioned site again. Woonchaknowit - I spot a handy park near the door, and there's a scooter in it.
Right smack in the middle of the park.:bash:

I was SOOOOOO tempted to move it a bit, and prolly would've, were it not for the previous comments. (In fact, were it not for the comments about aggressive towies, I would've done my usual thing and parked on the footpath, or ina "No Farking Parking" area.)
It was actually quite a mission to share the park with this non-sharing, antisocial piece of ChineseCrap without having my bike in such a position as to be potentially blocking its egress or risk damage to my own fine(ly scratched and muntered) machine.

Hmmmm.... what I shouldadone was ligt the scooter around so it was hard against the front of the park, then (no doubt) someone else woulda come along and parked behind it.
A fitting outcome for all.

[Tank]

Hmmmm.
I just had the misfortune to visit the aforementioned site again. Woonchaknowit - I spot a handy park near the door, and there's a scooter in it.
Right smack in the middle of the park.:bash:.

As a newbie to all this - where should you park in a normal carpark (i.e. not motobike zones?

Im guessing if you dont put the bike right in the middle some twat in a car will pull in going too fast not seeing your bike and run into it knocking it over.

What do you guys do?

[Tank]

And as for the guy who you caught moving the bike - here is a plan ...

Whilst hes moving the bike. Open his car door and grab his keys. Smile nicely as you drop them down the nearest drainpipe.

Seems fair - he moved the bike a few feet (across), you moved his keys a few feet (down):2thumbsup

Not sure what you can be charged with (Ive done it twice when I was younger) - but it sure does wind them up.:girlfight:

C

[NSR-Dan]

i would of pulled off the whole citizen arrest thing, start shouting "this cunt is stealing this bike", pulled some fancy martial art grappling crap i learnt when i was a kid and pigged tied him and called the cops and waited until they turned up.

[don rocard]

I would have given him heaps about it.As 422 said if you park in the middle of the space some blind churl will drive into it.I now park on the footpath,stuff the cops.:wari:

[barty5]

We checked out Albania Wetfield on Sunday - what a fucking crappy joke the parking is! One skinny driveway in/out, the lanes in the parking lot are all too narrow, the few 'covered' walkways are useless because the covers are too high and angled to assist the rain to blow in...
They had to have some guys directing parking because it's so difficult. Whoever designed the layout is a retard. It would've been better (and more efficient use of land) to have had a multi-tiered parking building under the mall (or adjacent to it). The mall has got some flak for being too much oriented to cars rather than being pedestrian-friendly, but IMHO it's not friendly fullstop.

have to agree took the family out there last weekend the dam lane are way to narrow and parking spaces are not deep enough i know the ss-v ve is a large car but hell i had to drive with the wheels over the cinter line and had to keep stopin to let cars through cause there wasnt enough room to fit 2 cars past at same time what a cock up with all that space.
and hell no you dont touch some elses bike the mall should have it own security you could have call to deal with it who would have in turn called the cops would have got him bared from comin back to the mall for a while as well.

[Tank]

and hell no you dont touch some elses bike the mall should have it own security you could have call to deal with it who would have in turn called the cops would have got him bared from comin back to the mall for a while as well.


Awesome plan!!!! - Im going to park my bike on the footpath -then call security and tell them I caught my wife moving it. Then she can be barred from the mall and I can afford a better bike!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[vifferman]

As a newbie to all this - where should you park in a normal carpark (i.e. not motobike zones?

Im guessing if you dont put the bike right in the middle some twat in a car will pull in going too fast not seeing your bike and run into it knocking it over.

You're correct - park the bike so it's right in the middle, and back far enough that it can be seen. But a scooter is somewhat different (in my head, at least). Most of them are only glorified bicycles, so it's a waste to take a whole space. :Pokey:

[Swoop]

have to agree took the family out there last weekend the dam lane are way to narrow and parking spaces are not deep enough i know the ss-v ve is a large car but hell i had to drive with the wheels over the cinter line and had to keep stopin to let cars through cause there wasnt enough room to fit 2 cars past at same time what a cock up with all that space.
and hell no you dont touch some elses bike the mall should have it own security you could have call to deal with it who would have in turn called the cops would have got him bared from comin back to the mall for a while as well.
An interesting post. Have you met Hitcher and the BDOTGNZA by any chance?

But a scooter is somewhat different (in my head, at least). Most of them are only glorified bicycles, so it's a waste to take a whole space. :Pokey:
There is definately something in the scooter riders logic about parking. WHY do they seem oblivious to the common sense approach to parking a scooter with other bikes in such a manner as to not block the egress of other bikes?
Every other bike in the place parking north-south, so Mr :scooter: bimbles up and parks east-west.:scratch:
I am considering a funding request for acadedmic research on this phenomenon!

[vifferman]

There is definately something in the scooter riders logic about parking. WHY do they seem oblivious to the common sense approach to parking a scooter with other bikes in such a manner as to not block the egress of other bikes?
Same/same as all the other things most scootersits do. Some scooterists are almost honorary bikers, and are really in to the whole two-wheels brotherhood mumbo. However (BUT!) for some/most a scooter is merely a convenient and cheap means of transport, and they treat it like a glorified bicycle. They don't notice other scooterists/bikers on the road, and therefore no special consideration is given WRT parking or anything else.:blank:

[Spuds1234]

As a newbie to all this - where should you park in a normal carpark (i.e. not motobike zones?

Im guessing if you dont put the bike right in the middle some twat in a car will pull in going too fast not seeing your bike and run into it knocking it over.

What do you guys do?

I park my bike at the back of a park and to the left or right side of the park.

That way the bike can be seen by cars driving in and around the car park, and if another bike comes along they can have the front of the park on the side that Im not in.

Only problem for them is if I leave and their bike is still there.

I would consider moving their bike but I wouldnt due to the fact that if I saw anyone moving my bike for what ever reason they certainly would get an ear full and a whole heap of fucken touch my bike again I'll kill you (even if its a good reason I wouldnt be to happy about someone moving my bike).

[Marmoot]

I think u have no way of treatment of me anyway.

all ur bases r belong to us

[Toaster]

Whoever designed the layout is a retard.

:rockon: Yeah I think common sense and forethought are not prerequitisites for some town planners and developers... its all about profit.

Once the full Albany city is developed, they will need at least two multi-level carparks to handle all the office workers cars, let alone the shoppers who can't find a park.

The current solution is to just clamp everyone or tow them away. :bash:

[Toaster]

Unlawful tampering with a vehicle, 'apprehend' vigourously, and call the constabulary. If it was my bike, or a bike I knew, take the photo in progress, apprehend vigourously, call for backup/coppers.
'No officer, I don't think it was unreasonable, do you know how many bikes have been stolen in the last month or so? and I finally caught one of the bastards red-handed.'
Alternately, wait until he has finished moving it, while taking photo's, then slap the crap out of him, and make him put it back.
Take more photo's of his car and tell him it will be circulated to a lot of large angry bikers who would take exception to this kind of behaviour.

Never punch someone with a closed fist... trust me. :bash::Police:

[vifferman]

The current solution is to just clamp everyone or tow them away. :bash:
Aha!!
The whole thing must've been designed by a towie then, or someone with shares in a towtruck company!

[sunhuntin]

As a newbie to all this - where should you park in a normal carpark (i.e. not motobike zones?

Im guessing if you dont put the bike right in the middle some twat in a car will pull in going too fast not seeing your bike and run into it knocking it over.

What do you guys do?

if i absolutly HAVE to park in town [where the bike parks are really just car parks with an MC painted in the middle] i park nose out, as far forwards as possible and close to the kerb [which ever side that may happen to be on... sitting on the bike, its the left usually] so theres room for scooters to slip in behind me, and also room for someone to park alongside. usually i park a block over from town, where theres a long bike park thats almost never used. does mean a short walk and leaving the bike out of view for a bit, but its easier than fucking around in the middle of town turning around and what not.