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Skyryder
16th September 2007, 20:17
Can anyone tell me why a suspended officer (Rickards) is given a new police car?
I can understand the full pay thing while on suspension but to be given a police vehicle when he is not performing any duties is something else. Or is he working while under suspension??
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463888&ref=rss
Skyryder
Da Bird
16th September 2007, 20:21
Can anyone tell me why a suspended officer (Rickards) is given a new police car?
Skyryder
Um, no I can't. You probably need to go somewhat higher up the food chain than mere Bykey Cop.
Can't imagine he would be doing too many km's in his old one!
BC.
doc
16th September 2007, 20:24
Can anyone tell me why a suspended officer (Rickards) is given a new police car?
I can understand the full pay thing while on suspension but to be given a police vehicle when he is not performing any duties is something else. Or is he working while under suspension??
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463888&ref=rss
SkyryderWhat has he done wrong ? .....Maybe he as an Amway franchise with Teflon. But you can't hold that against him . After what are you going to do with all that spare time. Visit old old friend and remember the good Ole day's. We must have faith in the system. You are innocent until you are proven guilty.
Swoop
16th September 2007, 20:53
Is he on home detention yet??
peasea
16th September 2007, 21:10
Is he on home detention yet??
I can't understand why he hasn't been shot.
Karma
16th September 2007, 21:36
It'll no doubt be part of his contract, wish someone would give me a car and pay me all that dosh...
Nobody told me at the career fair that rape was an actual career :(
Hitcher
16th September 2007, 21:41
Mr Rickards is suspended on full pay. The vehicle is part of his package and will be rotated in accordance with the NZ Police's policy on managers' cars. Just like it says in the article.
Skyryder
17th September 2007, 13:04
Mr Rickards is suspended on full pay. The vehicle is part of his package and will be rotated in accordance with the NZ Police's policy on managers' cars. Just like it says in the article.
Yes I read that bit. But the difference is that other officers are doing their job and the car is a part of the package that enables them to carry out their duties.
Rickards has no duties.............but by giving him the car sounds to me like he has some sympathy from someone. Like I mean if he was not given one who is going to take any notice if he jumps up and down and says I'm entitled to a new car. Watch this cunt get his job back. Like how long is it going to take before someone makes a decision on this for Christ sakes.
Skyryder
Finn
17th September 2007, 13:12
What surprised me is that he is suspended for 3 years. Ah the good ol days when you could just fire people.
terbang
17th September 2007, 13:23
Yeah rickards is suspended after being found not guilty of raping Louise Nicholas, why? Strange thing that because if he was as squeeky clean as he, and others claim, he would have been reinstated immediately on full pay with a car. Instead, he gets a holiday on full pay and the car! Perhaps this is because he is now an embarrassment to the NZ police as they know like the rest of us know, especially in the light of Shollum, Shipton and Dewars demise, that he only got away because of a smart lawyer.
smoky
17th September 2007, 13:32
What has he done wrong ? ...... We must have faith in the system. You are innocent until you are proven guilty.
Personally I don’t know if he’s guilty or not, and yes he’s entitled to be treated as innocent, but;
Given the media interest, the circus that surrounds him at the moment – I would of thought someone would’ve had the balls to say no to ordering a new car for him, who cares if it breaks his employment agreement, let him take the Police to the employment tribunal – see how far he gets. That’s if he cared anyway, he’s already driving around in a 3 year old commodore, courtesy of the taxpayer anyway. (bet it’s a V8 and we’re paying all his gas as well).
If he did take it to employment tribunal and the Police had to give him a new one – the general public would turn their displeasure toward the employment tribunal.
What spineless, pussy bashing, wimp made the decision to give him a new car.
The fact that Rickards can’t see how badly it reflects on the Police shows he’s obviously not fit for the job at that level anyway.
When is someone going to sort the whole thing out and get him out or put him back into a job – what’s the matter with them, useless pratts.
EJT
17th September 2007, 13:56
His employment contract would have had the conditions if he were to be suspended pending investigation. His employers (the police) are bound by the contract. If they didn't think he should get any perks if he were ever to be suspended then they should have thought about that when he signed the contract. I would guarantee they obtained legal advice before making the decision.
Oakie
17th September 2007, 14:12
His employment contract would have had the conditions if he were to be suspended pending investigation. His employers (the police) are bound by the contract. If they didn't think he should get any perks if he were ever to be suspended then they should have thought about that when he signed the contract. I would guarantee they obtained legal advice before making the decision.
Yeah. Them not fulfilling their contract would be taken in isolation and the other court matters would not have a bearing. If it went to the employment court they would have lost and had to front up with a vehicle and then pay compensation and legal fees. Cheaper just to stick to the employment contract.
Don't really know why he's still suspended. 'Bringing the force into disrepute' perhaps? Anyone know the grounds?
Skyryder
17th September 2007, 16:01
Don't really know why he's still suspended. 'Bringing the force into disrepute' perhaps? Anyone know the grounds?
Turning for his trial in his police uniform:spanking: Naughty naughty boy:spanking:
Skyryder
RantyDave
17th September 2007, 16:03
Ah the good ol days when you could just fire people.
Nice to see the shit-arse employment laws finally biting the government in the butt. Perhaps now they'll do something about them ... except, of course, the danger of losing the substantial "slack bastard" voting block may prove to be just too much of a risk for the governing party of helengrad.
Oh well, as you were I guess.
Dave
RantyDave
17th September 2007, 16:12
Don't really know why he's still suspended.
Because other than suspension you have two choices.
1, Bring him back into the force. Because the government don't look stupid enough over the whole thing already. Sure, yeah, let's do that.
2, Sack the cunt. Unfortunately you can't because he's not been found guilty of a sackable offence - merely being an obviously very stupid person to have as a senior policeman is not a sackable offence. Neither is just not being able to do your job, BTW.
Personally I'd be all up for sacking him and just wearing whatever legal shit then rains down - I've not heard of any six figure employment law victories so it would almost certainly prove cheaper. But if you're the government ... with several tens of billions of dollars just kinda knocking around ... then one dodgy git with a new commodore is not exactly going to break the bank. Better just to brush it under the carpet and hope everyone forgets come election time.
I hope John Key hangs them out to be eaten by vultures.
Dave
Scouse
17th September 2007, 16:40
I've not heard of any six figure employment law victories so it would almost certainly prove cheaper. Short memory eh what about John Hawksby I seem to remember a figure of $7 million being bandied about
Hitcher
17th September 2007, 16:48
I seem to remember a figure of $7 million being bandied about
$5.2 million. It was a lot of money in those days. It still is...
Scouse
17th September 2007, 16:55
$5.2 million. It was a lot of money in those days. It still is...Well then its $7 million in todays money
smoky
17th September 2007, 18:10
Yeah. Them not fulfilling their contract would be taken in isolation and the other court matters would not have a bearing. If it went to the employment court they would have lost and had to front up with a vehicle and then pay compensation and legal fees. Cheaper just to stick to the employment contract.
I've had a little experience as both an employment mediator for a union, and as an employer of a lot staff (currently) in the government environment.
You’re correct in theory, but in practice you can introduce all sorts of considerations, there's mediation and then tribunal and appeals...bla bla bla - why would he go thru all that to get an updated car - when he already has one.
The other issue is - when someone is suspended for more than 3 months you can appeal for a mediator to renegotiate his contract, terms and condition such as the car. I’ve done it before.
I think Rickards still has mates in high places
Grahameeboy
17th September 2007, 18:13
Nice to see the shit-arse employment laws finally biting the government in the butt. Perhaps now they'll do something about them ... except, of course, the danger of losing the substantial "slack bastard" voting block may prove to be just too much of a risk for the governing party of helengrad.
Oh well, as you were I guess.
Dave
This is to do with the Polioe Contract of Employment not the Employment Law.
tri boy
18th September 2007, 10:06
I'm too stupid to post a You tube link, but the "real' Chopper Reid has a message for pricks like that copper, (and all sexual offenders) on line.
If someone can post it, it's well worth viewing. Chopper is a scary bloke.
Its listed under Banned Commercials-Violence Against Women.
2 wheel madness
18th September 2007, 11:17
Rickards managed to make his way up the ladder to from a copper in Rotorua to Auckland Police Commissioner with these allegations being known, he was not suspended until the investigation was completed many years after the first mention of the incident(s).
How does a copper with possible rape allegations get so many promotions??? I think it would be fair to say someone in a high place thinks hes alright, even if everyone else thinks hes a piece of crap!
peasea
18th September 2007, 21:31
I'm too stupid to post a You tube link, but the "real' Chopper Reid has a message for pricks like that copper, (and all sexual offenders) on line.
If someone can post it, it's well worth viewing. Chopper is a scary bloke.
Its listed under Banned Commercials-Violence Against Women.
A mate of mine had a T-shirt with "Slavery for women" written on it. He got accosted by two dykes at Auckland International one Saturday. Farkin funny.
Dunno why I put that in here, but oh well.
Skyryder
18th September 2007, 21:52
A mate of mine had a T-shirt with "Slavery for women" written on it. He got accosted by two dykes at Auckland International one Saturday. Farkin funny.
Dunno why I put that in here, but oh well.
Some just go no sense of humour. Tell your mate to get a T shirt.
Dykes......wanted in Holland. :girlfight:
Skyryder
smoky
19th September 2007, 12:46
Some just go no sense of humour. Tell your mate to get a T shirt.
Dykes......wanted in Holland. :girlfight:
Skyryder
I was trying to work out how this fits in the Rickards bashing thread - then I worked it out;
He's the little boy who stuck his finger in the dyke, wasn't he.
Actualy, it was more like a batton
Cr1MiNaL
19th September 2007, 17:31
fukin burecuracy... dirty cops... I've met one.
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