Stalling mid flight

[Finn]

The Repsol has been in storage since Jan. Decided to give it a bit of a run so put some fresh gas in at Gull. Saw "98" on a pump so was filling it up and noticed that it was some sort of bio fuel crap with 10% Ethanol. Anyway, stopped off at Whangamata will the lads and it had trouble starting. Thought about the fuel so topped it up with some normal juice. On the road to Waihi, I was approaching a corner, revs at around 9 and the damn thing just cut out. Was an interesting corner.

So, could it have been the hippie juice or could it be that the battery might not have enough charge to run stuff?

[ArcherWC]

I would have thought if it was the gogo juice, you would have tuning issues first, like missing or backfiring. A cut out like that would normaly be electrical, ie tilt switch or kill switch shorting etc

just my 3 cents

[riffer]

Yuck. Not fun. You might also want to look at the side stand. It's possible the bolt's a bit loose and its moving enough to trip the switch.

[FROSTY]

That twisty thing on the right handlebar--you turn it BACK to go
Nahh seriously mate I'd suspect the battery before the fuel
The symptoms aint right for it to be the fuel--Unless its RELATED to fuel--IE some shit has blocked up your fuel filter

[doc]

The Repsol has been in storage since Jan. Probably Rust. Did it get to Whanga with no problems ?

[Finn]

Probably Rust. Did it get to Whanga with no problems ?

No problems at all. It was after we left Whanga that it was hard to start then stalled.

[Paul in NZ]

Could be a lot of things (yeah like that helps) but if it's sat for a bit, particularly with a 1/2 tank of gas during a time of climate extreme change, condensation can introduce water into the fuel cell OR the pump's tank at the servo could have been contaminated. Tip an egg cup or so of meths into the fuel or drain the float bowls...

[sAsLEX]

drain the float bowls...

If his bike had float bowls Honda need to shoot themselves........

[Paul in NZ]

If his bike had float bowls Honda need to shoot themselves........

Yeah well OK - it was a generic answer.... I suppose fuck all bikes still have carbs eh?

If it's a fly by wire gizmo take it back to the shop and ask for a diagnosis and don't waste time asking on KB...

[sAsLEX]

Yeah well OK - it was a generic answer.... I suppose fuck all bikes still have carbs eh?

If it's a fly by wire gizmo take it back to the shop and ask for a diagnosis and don't waste time asking on KB...

Not really maybe Harleys..... but Euro 3 is killing them all one by one.

Yamaha the only ones with Fly by wire throttle at the moment.

[xwhatsit]

What was that thread... oh... `Honda Quality'?

:lol:

[scumdog]

Fired up the Sporty a couple of weeks ago - first time out for a ride on it in over a year.

Popped and backfired at first but it did run, then as the old fuel in the carb got used up it smoother out (but then it IS an unsophisticated basic machine - apparently.:whistle:. ) ...so given your symptoms I doubt it was fuel - you would have had more warning.

[Finn]

I think Frosty is right. I heard that the fuel injection system (amongst other things) on a modern bike requires good battery juice.

I'll check the battery tonight.

[Usarka]

thanks for the warning about the "hippy fuel" though i didnt realise they'd started using this crap.....

[Paul in NZ]

I think Frosty is right. I heard that the fuel injection system (amongst other things) on a modern bike requires good battery juice.

I'll check the battery tonight.

If the electrical system fails to provide sufficient DC mid flight you have some serious issues.... If it spun easily when starting it should be OK but if the batt was flat when you first started it after it's layoff you could have cooked the rect / reg.... Surely a modern wonderbike should deliver a printout or have a diagnosis port?

[avgas]

Ya battery prob has a loose lead boss - my zxr had the same fault.

[avgas]

thanks for the warning about the "hippy fuel" though i didnt realise they'd started using this crap.....
I wont use anything else now.......way better bang for buck than the sulphur milkshake you get out of marsden.

[Swoop]

So somewhere, on a corner out from Whanga, there is a cbr sitting on the side of the road???

Restart OK, or did you push it back to Auckland?

[Finn]

So somewhere, on a corner out from Whanga, there is a cbr sitting on the side of the road???

Restart OK, or did you push it back to Auckland?

I tried bump starting it while I had some momentum but it wouldn't fire. I pulled over and it started again.

I'll go over it tonight and check a few things out.

[Swoop]

I tried bump starting it while I had some momentum but it wouldn't fire. I pulled over and it started again.
No other indications or hiccups on the way home?

[Paul in NZ]

I tried bump starting it while I had some momentum but it wouldn't fire. I pulled over and it started again.

I'll go over it tonight and check a few things out.

Often thats not a good move - probably OK with a new bike but late 80's to mid 90's bikes didn't have very good protection for the ECU and that can fry them - oh wait - thats italian bikes.. ;-)

Turning the ignition off/on and sometimes the kill switch often 'cycles' or resets the ECU so possibly check connections - odd though... If it died 'pop' it could be electrical rather than spluttering (fuel) but 90% of all fuel problems are electrical....

[breakaway]

I had a similar problem, was riding a bike back for a mate, and we got off the motorway, came to a set of lights, just as the revs dropped below 5000, bike cut out. I tested and the bike isn't actually making any power, meaning I ran the battery flat in the time that I was riding it.

[sAsLEX]

I wont use anything else now.......way better bang for buck than the sulphur milkshake you get out of marsden.

isn't it just diluted sulphur milkshake with 10% hippy juice added?

[avgas]

isn't it just diluted sulphur milkshake with 10% hippy juice added?
10% less diesel is still better than 0%
Ethanol doesnt sound so hippy when you talk about a 6 sec quarter, or an interesting spike for JD.

[sAsLEX]

10% less diesel is still better than 0%
Ethanol doesnt sound so hippy when you talk about a 6 sec quarter, or an interesting spike for JD.

My mates brew there own ethanol to save cash.....