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Slingshot
12th October 2007, 21:40
What an insult to the previous laureates.

Motig
12th October 2007, 22:02
I thought you were joking..................................unfortunat ely your not.

The Pastor
12th October 2007, 22:05
what did he do?

xwhatsit
12th October 2007, 22:15
what did he do?

He invented the intarnets, didn't you know?

:sweatdrop

Mikkel
12th October 2007, 22:18
Hmmm, got a source? The peace price sounds a bit odd - hasn't he only been involved with the climate debate?

Anyway - if he turns out to be the guy who manages to pull america's head out it's ass (on the climate issue) then he certainly deserves praise.

jrandom
12th October 2007, 22:24
CNN probably counts as a reasonably reliable source.

Shrug. If in fact global warming is the issue that the klaxon-sounders make it out to be, and Gore has in fact caused the impact that he's tried to make, then I guess the prize is hardly undeserved.

I make no judgement either way, however.

merv
12th October 2007, 22:27
As for the friggin climate everywhere I went in the North Island this week it seemed to want to rain hard and blow cold wind at us - damn global warming.

peasea
12th October 2007, 22:50
Al Gore is a cock.

karmakillernz
12th October 2007, 23:04
As for the friggin climate everywhere I went in the North Island this week it seemed to want to rain hard and blow cold wind at us - damn global warming.
I think global warming is a misleading term. People hear it and think: Great! I could use a longer summer. It's not just about a rising temperature - it's about all the things that are caused by it (e.g., storms & 'extreme weather', floods, heat-waves, etc.)


Al Gore is a cock.
Yeah, how dare he try and do something for the good of the planet and everyone on it... :rolleyes:

sAsLEX
12th October 2007, 23:19
Yeah, how dare he try and do something for the good of the planet and everyone on it... :rolleyes:

If you believe that was his sole motivation good on ya :2thumbsup

How much would he have bankrolled from that little venture?

Finn
12th October 2007, 23:32
This has got to be a joke. If not, how could we ever take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously again?

The Lone Rider
13th October 2007, 02:38
MANBEARPIG!!! :P

If I am correct and have the right person

MisterD
13th October 2007, 05:34
This has got to be a joke. If not, how could we ever take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously again?

We should stick a couple of tons of Nobel's best invention under the grandstanding twat and light the fuse...

ZeroIndex
13th October 2007, 06:40
I'm super Sereal :killingme

This... is why he got the Nobel Peace Prize!!! He must have got ManBearPig, and saved the world...

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cold comfort
13th October 2007, 07:11
Certainly diminishes the achievements of past recipents-all you need now is a cut and paste power point presentation and a lot of hot air (sic)

jazbug5
13th October 2007, 07:14
Nothing to do with him keeping his 'peace' when Bush stole the first election, then.

Surely not.

The Pastor
13th October 2007, 07:25
Hmmm, got a source? The peace price sounds a bit odd - hasn't he only been involved with the climate debate?

Anyway - if he turns out to be the guy who manages to pull america's head out it's ass (on the climate issue) then he certainly deserves praise.


Errr, whats to say that climate change is a bad thing? last time I checked the climate has never remained static.


CNN probably counts as a reasonably reliable source.

Shrug. If in fact global warming is the issue that the klaxon-sounders make it out to be, and Gore has in fact caused the impact that he's tried to make, then I guess the prize is hardly undeserved.

I make no judgement either way, however.

Im in no way saying his stuff he has "done" is "bad" but he in no way should of gotten the noble - its a too higher award for someone who is just trying to get more votes.


Al Gore is a cock.

:clap:


I think global warming is a misleading term. People hear it and think: Great! I could use a longer summer. It's not just about a rising temperature - it's about all the things that are caused by it (e.g., storms & 'extreme weather', floods, heat-waves, etc.)


Yeah, how dare he try and do something for the good of the planet and everyone on it... :rolleyes:

All hes doing is trying to be president.


If you believe that was his sole motivation good on ya :2thumbsup

How much would he have bankrolled from that little venture?

a lot


This has got to be a joke. If not, how could we ever take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously again?

couldn't of said it better myself. only in America


Certainly diminishes the achievements of past recipents-all you need now is a cut and paste power point presentation and a lot of hot air (sic)


your forgetting the biased movie. and other stuff. gotta have the movie, they make good money.

RantyDave
13th October 2007, 07:31
What an insult to the previous laureates.
I don't think it's a bad thing at all for a couple of reasons:

1, Like it or not it adds a sheen of authenticity to the whole "climate change" thing.
2, He has worked really hard over the last few years to bring the issue to the forefront of the world's press and keep it there.
3, It's not like there's exactly a queue of people doing huge amounts of good right now

If the science round climate change is even halfway right, this stuff is really important. However, if the science is not even halfway right it won't be the first time and I reckon the jury's still out to be honest.

Besides, he gets to say "fuck you, George".

Dave

The Pastor
13th October 2007, 08:00
I don't think it's a bad thing at all for a couple of reasons:

1, Like it or not it adds a sheen of authenticity to the whole "climate change" thing.
2, He has worked really hard over the last few years to bring the issue to the forefront of the world's press and keep it there.
3, It's not like there's exactly a queue of people doing huge amounts of good right now

If the science round climate change is even halfway right, this stuff is really important. However, if the science is not even halfway right it won't be the first time and I reckon the jury's still out to be honest.

Besides, he gets to say "fuck you, George".

Dave
What he is doing is "good" (I personally think its a waste of time, but that is irrelevant), but the noble? I don't think so.

Mikkel
13th October 2007, 08:12
Well whether the climate change is all bad or all good it's likely that it's going to have a significant impact over the next 100 years or so.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter if it'll be BAD(tm) - at the rate we're consuming this planets fossil resources we're going to run out sooner or later. When that happens we'll be in deep shit if we haven't prepared for it properly. I shit you not if I say that on a bad day it could mean an end to society as we know it. And while you might rejoice at the thought of no speeding tickets I'm sure that the guy in the big black 4x4 savours the thought or being able to run you over without consequence. Not that any of this would matter since we'd all be walking/cycling anyway - but I'm sure you get the point.

Maybe we're lucky and it won't happen in our lifetime - but if you look at history you should be able to tell that there's only one thing that is "constant": change will happen - some will adapt and others will perish.

Bullitt
13th October 2007, 08:33
I don't think it's a bad thing at all for a couple of reasons:

1, Like it or not it adds a sheen of authenticity to the whole "climate change" thing.

Why? a politician who knows very little about science (AFAIK) who takes some incorrect conclusions and come up with an incorrect theory which every other politician (who also have no science knowledge) jumps on the band wagon.


2, He has worked really hard over the last few years to bring the issue to the forefront of the world's press and keep it there.

Bringing something to the forfront of everyones minds isnt always a good thing. What if he appeared on TV every day and managed to convice everyone that the world was flat?


3, It's not like there's exactly a queue of people doing huge amounts of good right now

Agreed, and he is included in that.

RIP Augie Auer

kelleyb
13th October 2007, 10:25
Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S7RLO00&show_article=1)

Article from Breitbart.com

Dilligaf
13th October 2007, 11:38
What a joke...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

For those who believe Gore has done a good thing - yeah right. A severe case of do as I say not as I do if there ever were!!!

The Lone Rider
13th October 2007, 12:15
couldn't of said it better myself. only in America


Aint the Nobel prize an award that does not originate in the United States and isn't handed out by an American committee?

Maybe you'd be more accurate to say "Only in Sweden"

Street Gerbil
13th October 2007, 14:29
Well, after the Noble Piss prize was given to creeps like Carter and Arafart, giving it to Goracle seems a bit like a calculated insult. Not that he'll ever see the irony...

tri boy
13th October 2007, 14:49
Peace prize:crazy:
F**ken "COCK HEAD" prize.
Flys himself and six staff around the US in a bloody 737 burning off tons of jet fuel, and then wanks on about global warming.:rolleyes:

Mikkel
13th October 2007, 16:08
A lot of Gore hate going on here. What has the man done that is so bad? I'm just curious. I can only think that it's positive that someone with voice is trying to get all the bloody yanks to see that there might be a consequence of always voting in the dumbasses that promises the lowest petrol prices.

TBQFH NZ could do with someone to try and raise the environmental awareness right here. The only reason that NZ is clean and green is because there are fuck all people... And it seems that the good guys who wouldn't dream of littering, etc are getting fewer and further inbetween as well. Seriously - thermo windows and insulation was invented many years ago and in case noone have noticed this isn't exactly equator. But nah - why bother about that. After all, NZ has mimicked the US well enough that if the shit hits the fan Superman will zoom right in and save it all!

marty
13th October 2007, 16:19
This has got to be a joke. If not, how could we ever take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously again?


especially cause we all took it so seriously before..........

Finn
13th October 2007, 16:22
especially cause we all took it so seriously before..........

It ended for me the moment Mother Theresa took gold. She was one nasty mother.

James Deuce
13th October 2007, 17:27
I don't think it's a bad thing at all for a couple of reasons:

1, Like it or not it adds a sheen of authenticity to the whole "climate change" thing.
2, He has worked really hard over the last few years to bring the issue to the forefront of the world's press and keep it there.
3, It's not like there's exactly a queue of people doing huge amounts of good right now

If the science round climate change is even halfway right, this stuff is really important. However, if the science is not even halfway right it won't be the first time and I reckon the jury's still out to be honest.

Besides, he gets to say "fuck you, George".

Dave

There's always climate change. There were several "anomalies" in "An Inconvenient Truth", not least amongst them is if all the ice on Greenland melts, the world's oceans will rise 20ft.

Not.

I wonder why people have forgotten why it was called Greenland? Because Scandinavians settled and raised cattle there because of the superb green grass.

Maunder Minimum pops along, Gulf Stream gets diverted, POW back to glaciers.

Climate change within the the last Half Millennium, but well prior to the Industrial revolution. Catastrophic for a large farming community. But the world's oceans didn't drop 20ft in sea level, did they?

There's something very fishy about using 4 reported, documented dead Polar Bears floating some way from any ice pack as evidence that Polar Bears are dying of exhaustion due to retreating ice packs. The Polar Bear corpses were all found after huge North Atlantic storms.

Al Gore is a big fat liar. He's admitted as much in the last week. All I have to do to win the Nobel Peace prize is tell a Big Fat Convenient lie and make it look plausible by frowning a lot.

Bill & Al made a good team. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

"I used hyperbole to wake everyone up to the threat of climate change induced by mankind."

Planetary environments and ecologies are NEVER in stasis.

People aren't important to a planet. It doesn't care and it will change the composition of the atmosphere in response to stimuli. The Carbon credit industry is based on a faulty premise. The two worst things for accelerating Global warming are sulphuric acid aerosols (volcanoes like Mt Pinatubo create millions of cubic tons of them) and plain old dihydrogen monoxide in the form of vapour.

Earth's Atmosphere: 79% nitrogen, 20% oxygen, and 1% other gases

To change the composition of the atmosphere the components of the atmosphere have to become compounds. To increase Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide in the atmosphere the nitrogen, oxygen, and "other gases" have to become something else in measurable quantities.

We plain don't know enough to say that WE are heating the atmosphere up, or is some quantum physics effect that could be explained by Unified Field Theory doing it. Or has the Sun been 800C hotter over the last 1000 years and the cumulative effects are only being felt now?

Putting your hand up and saying, "I can demonstrate beyond doubt that Human Beings have heated the planet up significantly in the last 100 years" is just asking for an intellectual kicking. But thanks to the politicisation of the Climate Change arguments, intellectuals and scientists aren't allowed to discuss ideas because their research funding (particularly ecology, meteorology, oceanography - anything to do with charting and measuring global changes vs time) is tied to supporting the argument. Disagree and we'll find someone else to make a hash of your research.

Saying "Fuck You George" isn't worth creating a propaganda machine many totalitarian Governments would be proud of.

It's really simple: Oil is running out (maybe) and the emotive image of communities drowning is being used as a tool to make it OK to lower general standards of living for us serfs.

Climate Change on Planet Earth is real. It's been going on for 4 billion years and it will keep going on once it has scrubbed the over-excreting virus from its surface - US.

Maha
13th October 2007, 17:39
Nothing to do with him keeping his 'peace' when Bush stole the first election, then.

Surely not.


Rearrange the letters in George Bush and you get...He Bugs Gore!....:bash:

Mikkel
13th October 2007, 17:44
So you suggest we'll just keep the flame burning ever higher and keeping the party going? Hmmm - let's see what happens as China get's it shit sorted out and you got 1 billion more people wanting the living standard that we have now.

While I agree that planet earth most likely will be able to sort us out without too much of a worry - it's what that sorting out is going to do to our society that should get your attention.

Also, I'm afraid that without a little exaggeration you won't capture Joe Average's imagination and have him understand that something's gotta give... namely HIM. And to be honest don't bother about worrying about classes in society, they have always been there and always will be. Be happy that we as "serfs" actually have some freedom in how we choose to live our lives. Trust me - a few thousand billionaires darting around in private jets are not going to have any significant environmental impact whatsoever.

With regards to the atmosphere it's not about whether WE heat it up or not. It's a question of how different gasses absorp and store the heat of the sun. Here you have CO2 being a better absorber than Nitrogen and Methane being even better yet - and sure enough water vapour is even better still... So much more reason to be concerned - if we raise the humidity enough things might get out of hand. E.g. Mars has had an atmosphere at one point and Venus has not always been the hellish hot acid planet that it is today.

Sure enough - all of this doesn't matter on the larger scale of things because either the universe will continue to expand or it will contract in a big crunch in the end. Either way, long before this happens the sun will swallow up the earth and everything on it... so yeah, why give a fuck. Let's just eat, shit, drink, root and be happy - however, how long we'll enjoy these privilleges might depend on how we go about enjoying them. :peace:

RantyDave
13th October 2007, 18:04
but the noble? I don't think so.
Nobel. N O B E L. After Alfred Nobel - the inventor of dynamite (a good thing since it was safer than nitro-glycerine).

Some smart people have worked very hard and think there is evidence to suggest that pouring shit into the atmosphere - in the order of millions of tonnes per year - is perhaps going to fuck it over in the long term. Like going out drinking every night only bigger, or perhaps putting a quarter teaspoon of sugar in your petrol tank once a week. Go ahead, try it.

Some other smart people have also worked hard and decided that the atmosphere gets hotter and colder anyway and all we are seeing now is the latest cycle.

Either which way I'm inclined to listen more to smart people who work hard rather than someone who can't even be bothered to correctly spell the name of the scientific award in question.

I see now what we need Al Gore for - I personally thought the whole thing was stating the fucking obvious, but perhaps not.

Dave

RantyDave
13th October 2007, 18:21
Let's just eat, shit, drink, root and be happy
While this is fine, we should consider what people in the future are going to think of us. For instance: if those cunts in the past hadn't royally fucked over the Maori then we wouldn't be left having to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars to make up for it now. Sure, we have a few extinct species to show for our predecessors - the narrow minded dickwads - but it's peanuts compared to the world's supply of oil being gone. Or vast swathes of the planets surface being unable to grow food (let alone the current biofuel obsession, which is bollocks). Or vast chunks of Europe being underwater leading to tens of millions of homeless cloggies. Hmm. Suddenly doesn't seem so bad, does it?

Anyway, the planet will be fine. After all, it's managed to recover from a mass extinction at least once, several ice ages and god alone knows what else. Literally. Hell, we could have a nuclear war and there'd still be plants and cockroaches. It's our ability to live on it that's in doubt.

Dave

Swoop
13th October 2007, 18:27
I wonder if he has a few shares in the global con that is "carbon credit trading"?

Keep up "the sky is falling" routine Al.:yawn:

Street Gerbil
13th October 2007, 18:27
Nobel. N O B E L. After Alfred Nobel - the inventor of dynamite (a good thing since it was safer than nitro-glycerine).
[...]
Dave

Dave, I think you are wrong. Nobel Prize is an award given to the best and the brightest among scientists and artists for "Outstanding contributions in physics, chemistry, literature, peace, and physiology or medicine, and economics" (Wikipedia).

The way I see it, *NOBLE PISS* Prize is a potful of products of metabolism of European "nobility" given to world's biggest assholes in order to celebrate their asshattery (Arafart) or piss on Americans (Carter and Goracle).

RantyDave
13th October 2007, 19:20
The way I see it, *NOBLE PISS* Prize is a potful of products of metabolism of European "nobility" given to world's biggest assholes
No no. The Noble Piss prize is given to whoever brings the most beer to a party.

Dave

oldrider
13th October 2007, 19:34
Chicken Little's must be in the majority where the Nobel's live!

I guess the sky is falling faster now.

Gullible bastards. Gores a bloody :tugger: (IMHO) John.

Street Gerbil
13th October 2007, 19:43
Gullible bastards
They are anything but gullible. They just got huge axes and an infinite supply of grinding stones.

karmakillernz
13th October 2007, 19:49
How much would he have bankrolled from that little venture?
Personally, I don't care how much he's benefiting from it. He has spent the last 30+ years promoting environmental awareness. Better he make money from helping the environment rather than destroying it.


All hes doing is trying to be president.
Although he hasn't stated whether he'll run or not, I would be thrilled if he did. It would make a nice change to have a president with some common sense (or any sense at all for that matter) running the place.

Bykmad
13th October 2007, 20:02
What a joke..Al Gore couldnt even beat George W Bush to the White House. If Gorge W Bush is a loser, what does that make Al Gore?????????

jazbug5
13th October 2007, 20:13
Newsflash: Al Gore won the election that brought GB to power.


What a joke..Al Gore couldnt even beat George W Bush to the White House. If Gorge W Bush is a loser, what does that make Al Gore?????????

karmakillernz
13th October 2007, 20:23
Newsflash: Al Gore won the election that brought GB to power.
That's right. When you have enough friends in high places (as in GWB's case), then the number of votes doesn't really count for much.

peasea
13th October 2007, 22:09
Rearrange the letters in George Bush and you get...He Bugs Gore!....:bash:


Rearrange the letters in Gore and you get Ogre.

Just an observation.

Street Gerbil
13th October 2007, 23:10
Rearrange the letters in Gore and you get Ogre.

Just an observation.

Moreover, apparently in Russian "Gore" means "trouble" or "tragedy".

Mikkel
13th October 2007, 23:49
The way I see it, *NOBLE PISS* Prize is a potful of products of metabolism of European "nobility" given to world's biggest assholes in order to celebrate their asshattery (Arafart) or piss on Americans (Carter and Goracle).

Surely you have got to be kidding on that... If not I suggest you consult an encyclopedia (online of not).

And if anything the Da Vinci Code showed us that anagrams is something to be taken serious!


While this is fine, we should consider what people in the future are going to think of us. For instance: if those cunts in the past hadn't royally fucked over the Maori then we wouldn't be left having to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars to make up for it now. Sure, we have a few extinct species to show for our predecessors - the narrow minded dickwads - but it's peanuts compared to the world's supply of oil being gone. Or vast swathes of the planets surface being unable to grow food (let alone the current biofuel obsession, which is bollocks). Or vast chunks of Europe being underwater leading to tens of millions of homeless cloggies. Hmm. Suddenly doesn't seem so bad, does it?

While I agree with you I suggest you reread what I wrote and consult one definition or the other of "sarcasm".
That being said, I (and I'm not from around here so don't call me a bigot cheers) think that the Maoris should consider themselves extremely lucky that NZ wasn't colonised 100 years earlier - things would have been very different then. E.g. the british empire had abolished slavery and there were humanitarian movements.
On the other hand the pakeha should be thankful that they have a Maori culture to draw from!

Biggles41
14th October 2007, 01:07
Personally, I don't care how much he's benefiting from it. He has spent the last 30+ years promoting environmental awareness. Better he make money from helping the environment rather than destroying it.


Although he hasn't stated whether he'll run or not, I would be thrilled if he did. It would make a nice change to have a president with some common sense (or any sense at all for that matter) running the place.

Al Gore is a descendant of Edward I, he is also a cousin of
former US President Richard Nixon... He is a descendant of
Roman Emperors Louis II, Charles II and Louis I and is
therefore also a direct descendant of Charlemagne, the eighth
century Emperor. The problem is, Gore's Charlemagne links also
make him a cousin of George W. Bush.

And don't we remember Bill Clinton running off in the latter
days of his presidency to recieve something called the
Charmagne medal of honour?

Why?

Charlemagne is the man who opened the west is George bush and
Bill Clinton the people closing the west signing the death
warrant on the middle class?

Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off
the throne - and has kinship with every member of Britain's
royal family, the house of Windsor.

He is the 13th cousin of Britain's Queen Mother and of her
daughter Queen Elizabeth, and is the 13th cousin once removed
of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles.

Bush's family tree can be documented as far back as the early
15th century. He has a direct descent from Henry VIII's sister
Mary Tudor who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. He is also descended from Charles II of England.

The strange thing is He and Barbara Bush are related to the
same British Monarch.

Do you see a pattern emerging here? they are all the same.

Sorry Rambling on a bit here but the point I'm trying to make
is the bloodlines are so thick, why would any body on this
planet want to believe these bunch of inbreds contantly spewing
forth utter bullshit?

Type HAARP into Google and do some research because that
probably has a lot to do with it amongst other things we are
not allowed to know about.

RantyDave
14th October 2007, 02:13
While I agree with you I suggest you reread what I wrote and consult one definition or the other of "sarcasm".
Sorry, it's getting difficult to tell round here at the moment.

I ... think that the Maoris should consider themselves extremely lucky that NZ wasn't colonised 100 years earlier ... e.g. the british empire had abolished slavery and there were humanitarian movements.
You mean like the horrible mess they made of the Aborigines as practically the first thing they did in Australia? Or the very "Empire" like rule over India? And this same empire shows up in New Zealand and finally decides to not totally fuck over the natives as their opening move?

They had calmed down a lot by the time they showed up here (in any numbers, anyway).

Dave

denill
14th October 2007, 06:48
Amazing how some totally accept the doom and gloom predictions of global warming effects made by people who can’t tell us with any accuracy what the weather will be tomorrow? :doh:

Maha
14th October 2007, 08:27
Rearrange the letters in Gore and you get Ogre.

Just an observation.

Maybe Hall and Oats did a song about him years ago....:niceone:...bling sent!

Robert Taylor
14th October 2007, 09:27
This has got to be a joke. If not, how could we ever take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously again?

EXACTLY. I hope this doesnt help Hilary Clinton.

Street Gerbil
14th October 2007, 15:11
Surely you have got to be kidding on that... If not I suggest you consult an encyclopedia (online of not).
Are you suggesting that there is no encyclopedia entry for the Noble Piss Prize?
I guess I'll have to write it myself. Nothing is ever easy...