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car
26th October 2007, 16:11
Two hundred bucks!

And what was the heinous crime that I committed, you're wondering? What foul act or public endangerment could they have caught me for, bang to rights?

Well the ticket says "USING A VEHICLE WHILE NOT DISPLAYING A CURRENT LICENSE LABEL IN THE MANNER REQUIRED."

Thank you, you bean-counting, pencil-pushing shits. My vehicle is licensed, and WoF'd, and your computers know that damned well. But, yes, you're right, that bit of paper that I forgot to mount on my motorcycle makes me a public menace.

Not even a warning or a producer, just a straight $200 bloody fine. Bastards.

homer
26th October 2007, 16:14
where does it have to be placed ....
are you talking a car or bike
as far as i know on a bike it does not have to be displayed
just attached somewhere

was it the rego or wof ...both?

The Pastor
26th October 2007, 16:14
welcome to NZ. your not a kiwi unless youve been shafted up the arse by the traffic police.

Nasty
26th October 2007, 16:15
Two hundred bucks!

And what was the heinous crime that I committed, you're wondering? What foul act or public endangerment could they have caught me for, bang to rights?

Well the ticket says "USING A VEHICLE WHILE NOT DISPLAYING A CURRENT LICENSE LABEL IN THE MANNER REQUIRED."

Thank you, you bean-counting, pencil-pushing shits. My vehicle is licensed, and WoF'd, and your computers know that damned well. But, yes, you're right, that bit of paper that I forgot to mount on my motorcycle makes me a public menace.

Not even a warning or a producer, just a straight $200 bloody fine. Bastards.


and because you were already licensed you should be able to get off it. Check out with the council that charged you how to go about it.

idleidolidyll
26th October 2007, 16:17
yes, welcome to the club

your $200 tax will go directly to the IRD and since it's such a great earner, the cops will b3e back out again tomorrow even as all those really fucken dangerous drivers switch lanes without signaling, run red lights, cut people off and generally create mayhem in our towns and cities.

car
26th October 2007, 16:20
welcome to NZ. your not a kiwi unless youve been shafted up the arse by the traffic police.

The irony here is that I've had cause to talk to the trafffic police, with sirens and red-n-blues, twice in the year that I've been here, and both times they've been helpful, friendly and, ultimately, let me away with a warning. I've been sitting here reading about other people's luck with traffic cops and thinking "what are these people talking about?"

This wasn't a cop -- this was a traffic warden.

idleidolidyll
26th October 2007, 16:23
you're either a saint or you're gonna find out soon enough

Moxy
26th October 2007, 16:23
Well the ticket says "USING A VEHICLE WHILE NOT DISPLAYING A CURRENT LICENSE LABEL IN THE MANNER REQUIRED."


edit: oops my traffic warden question had already been answered :pinch:

MSTRS
26th October 2007, 16:30
This wasn't a cop -- this was a traffic warden.

There's your problem. Won't stick if you prove you're regd.

pritch
26th October 2007, 19:12
Go and see the Council staff. You will have to degrade yourself in front of some supercilious arsehole of a minion but WTF!

It is $200 after all.

Grub
26th October 2007, 19:38
your $200 tax will go directly to the IRD and since it's such a great earner,

{sigh} .... same old scratched record played on the wrong turntable ... yet again.

It's the local body who issue these ... and it's not even the Council, its Parking Enforcement Services which if you dig deep enough, you might find is a provate contractor.

So lets get off the cops = revenue bandwagon ... just for once huh?

Grub
26th October 2007, 19:39
There's your problem. Won't stick if you prove you're regd.

Yup it does .... unless you want to try your luck in front of a Justice. The offence is "failing to DISPLAY ..." not failing to HAVE

Street Gerbil
26th October 2007, 21:02
Two hundred bucks!
[...]But, yes, you're right, that bit of paper that I forgot to mount on my motorcycle makes me a public menace.

Sorry, mate, I feel for you, but dura lex sed lex...

MSTRS
26th October 2007, 21:08
Yup it does .... unless you want to try your luck in front of a Justice. The offence is "failing to DISPLAY ..." not failing to HAVE

And if it was on the bike and the Nazi Warden just didn't look?? Not unheard of, you know. I've seen them on face of the # plate, behind it, on the swingarm, on the screen....

car
26th October 2007, 22:14
Sorry, mate, I feel for you, but dura lex sed lex...

I know, I know, but lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.

;)

It's registered until mid 2008. If I remember rightly, the reason I didn't put the new rego on it as soon as the postie stuck it in my slot was that the bike was down at TSS, who were repairing the $1600 worth of damage done to it by the bloody shipping company when they dropped it off the back of the truck. So I put it in my desk drawer, thinking "must put that on when I get the bike back."

sAsLEX
26th October 2007, 23:16
Yup it does .... unless you want to try your luck in front of a Justice. The offence is "failing to DISPLAY ..." not failing to HAVE

Just stick it back in an awkward place to see, ie behind the plate, that is still visible if you crouch funny take some photos and write in saying they musn't of checked properly.

xwhatsit
26th October 2007, 23:24
And if it was on the bike and the Nazi Warden just didn't look?? Not unheard of, you know. I've seen them on face of the # plate, behind it, on the swingarm, on the screen....
He's right, you know...

I know, I know, but lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.
Ah, that lovely non sequitur...

Car: repeat after me -- `I was wrong before. In fact I did remember to attach it -- it has always been attached to the swingarm/windscreen/number plate and the warden simply was mistaken and failed to see it. See, here's a photo to prove it. Can I have my $200 back now?'

Drum
26th October 2007, 23:28
Just stick it back in an awkward place to see, ie behind the plate, that is still visible if you crouch funny take some photos and write in saying they musn't of checked properly.

Bingo. Did it myself with the Welly wardens. Got off the tax.

Mikkel
27th October 2007, 01:05
If you didn't get any demerit points please don't complain!

But yeah, there are a few tickets out there that doesn't make any sense...

car
27th October 2007, 01:09
Car: repeat after me -- `I was wrong before. In fact I did remember to attach it -- it has always been attached to the swingarm/windscreen/number plate and the warden simply was mistaken and failed to see it. See, here's a photo to prove it. Can I have my $200 back now?'

Ah, yes, a cunning plan. And for once, it doesn't involve turnips.

If it doesn't work, there's always plan B: www.platemates.co.nz...

Should I get the new plate holder before or after I photograph the rego peaking out from behind it?

car
27th October 2007, 01:13
If you didn't get any demerit points please don't complain!

But yeah, there are a few tickets out there that doesn't make any sense...

As a freshly migrated Pom, I'm well within my whinging quota, thank you very much.

Mikkel
27th October 2007, 01:37
As a freshly migrated Pom, I'm well within my whinging quota, thank you very much.

You'll get over it... (HTFU) ;)

idleidolidyll
27th October 2007, 05:59
{sigh} .... same old scratched record played on the wrong turntable ... yet again.

It's the local body who issue these ... and it's not even the Council, its Parking Enforcement Services which if you dig deep enough, you might find is a provate contractor.

So lets get off the cops = revenue bandwagon ... just for once huh?

which only goes to underline what a great earner it all is

thanks for your support

idleidolidyll
27th October 2007, 06:02
If you didn't get any demerit points please don't complain!

But yeah, there are a few tickets out there that doesn't make any sense...

that's good advice.

years ago i used to travel from auckland to levin and back regularly. One day a cop gave me a speeding ticket just before waiouru and his advice to me was to put $10 into a jar every time I drove through because professional reps are always going to incur speeding tax anyway.

the points are a different issue and if the laws get too militant i can see a lot more people doing runners from the police (with some more of those chased to their deaths by cops desperate to have their own 'legal' car race)

car
28th November 2007, 12:28
Man, I was angry, eh?

I called them the next day, and tried to speak to someone about it, was told that the ticket hadn't been entered into their system yet. They said I should write a letter, include photos, so that they could compare with the photos that the warden might or might not have taken of the bike.

I forgot about it at that point, other things on, and then a couple of weeks (?) later I decided to just walk over there with the ticket and the documentation. I decided on the way over not to try and bullshit my way out of it (reasoning that the truth was believable and reasonable and unlikely to land me in any shit or trap me in any lies) and when I got there they asked me to write a note to go with the photocopy they took of the docs and leave it with them.

Three days later, a letter in the post telling me that they'd looked over the case and decided to let me off. Result.

Needless to say, all of my vehicles are now displaying the correct rego and WoF labels. Lesson learned.

vifferman
28th November 2007, 12:42
Hmmmmm....
Wife got a ticket last week for no licence label, and it had us really puzzled: did we licence it on-line, and have it lost in the post? Did I mix up the old label and new, and throw away the wrong one? :spudwhat: And I couldn't remember.
So, I rushed down to the PO, filled out the form, and took it up to the counter. "OH - your car's already licenced!"
Hmmmm....
So, I looked and hunted and couldn't find anything.
Rang the LTNZSA or whatever they're called now, and they said they'd send a letter saying it was licenced.
But, I looked and hunted and searched, and found out that it had been paid on the 25th of September. But where was the receipt? And the label?
Then the letter arrived.
And then I found the label and receipt in my bike bag.

So yesterday I photocopied the lot, wrote a letter telling them I was mentally defective and fucked up, and now we're waiting to see what happens. I'm expecting the worst, so we can add to this month's family collection of tickets and fines (so far $1400...)

car
28th November 2007, 12:47
So yesterday I photocopied the lot, wrote a letter telling them I was mentally defective and fucked up, and now we're waiting to see what happens. I'm expecting the worst, so we can add to this month's family collection of tickets and fines (so far $1400...)

Ouch!

I actually went round, with my cap in hand (I have a cap specifically designed for wringing 'tween hands at such occaisions) but that was no use because the "appeals department" don't talk to you face to face.

Anyway, good luck with that, hope you get the same result.

ManDownUnder
28th November 2007, 13:52
Sorry, mate, I feel for you, but dura lex sed lex...


I know, I know, but lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.

;)


Agreed entirely - (what the hell did you say???)

car
28th November 2007, 14:22
Agreed entirely - (what the hell did you say???)

It's complete nonsense, a traditional filler used in publishing to bulk out pages with realistic looking text. My first job was as a programmer for a publishing company, got to read and write a lot of fake copy.

Oh, look, wikipedia to the rescue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum

Skyryder
28th November 2007, 14:47
I'll give most people doubt but traffic and parking wardens not a chance. They are the vultures of the city. Where's there's an event on for any reason they will be out in force. These fuckers actually enjoy pissing people off.

Skyryder

EJK
28th November 2007, 15:22
Not even a warning or a producer, just a straight $200 bloody fine. Bastards.

Two hundred? :yawn:

Today I paid my $400 fine (for not displaying the L Plate)
$400 for a piece of a plastic stuff? now THAT is not justice is it?

$400 = 20 X Queen Elisabeth II... Imagine that in your head lol


Two hundred? :yawn:

Oh, I'm not proud of that either :angry2:

spudchucka
28th November 2007, 15:33
Word is that the whole traffic enforcement regime is getting a make over sometime soon.

Fines will be down, demerits will be up.

For instance the current $400 + 25 demerits for driver licence breaches will apparently become $150 + 35 demerits. Better for the pocket but it will cost you your licence after 3 times.