Rear-ended

[selectedgrub]

Any advice out there.

Thanks!

[yungatart]

It is her fault!
You do not need a reason to stop suddenly in the middle of the road...she was following too close and was unable to stop in half the clear distance ahead...her problem entirely

[Matt_TG]

.. however it had no warrant. Perhaps the brake problem could have been identified at a WOF check, even with a WOF your bike needs to be in roadworthy condition. Simply put the bike was not fit to be on the road in the first instance. If you weren't on the road she wouldn't have damage to her car.

Why'd you just throw her details away? That doesn't always make issues disappear mate. Good luck.

[Str8 Jacket]

MATE! why did you throw her details away? Sounds like she may be at fault.... If you remember her rego I suggest that you go to the post shop and get them!

[selectedgrub]

.. however it had no warrant. Perhaps the brake problem could have been identified at a WOF check, even with a WOF your bike needs to be in roadworthy condition. Simply put the bike was not fit to be on the road in the first instance. If you weren't on the road she wouldn't have damage to her car.

Why'd you just throw her details away? That doesn't always make issues disappear mate. Good luck.

I am not your mate, never will be and don't want to be.

It had no warrant cause I just got the thing going.

Why did you reply anyway. Just to make my anger boil more, How do you know my bike is not road worthy, And how do you get it road worthy without testing it before a warrant.

Please, I don't want scorn, So your comment is a Nil like you.

Thanks for the other CONSTRUCTIVE comments

[selectedgrub]

MATE! why did you throw her details away? Sounds like she may be at fault.... If you remember her rego I suggest that you go to the post shop and get them!

Hey yeah thanks for advice
I found them back up the road, what luck it was still there.

I was just angry, I guess smashing my lid into the road wasn't a good move either.

I was gunna wait for advice and no doubt she will ring me adamant it's my fault to make me pay.

[Str8 Jacket]

Hey yeah thanks for advice
I found them back up the road, what luck it was still there.

I was just angry, I guess smashing my lid into the road wasn't a good move either.

I was gunna wait for advice and no doubt she will ring me adamant it's my fault to make me pay.

Maybe you should ring the cops and report the accident then? May help youin the long run? I hope that you didnt hurt yourself?

[Matt_TG]

lol cruiser boy. Fun times on the internet. Nevermind, I'm off for a ride on my warranted and registered bike. Have fun arguing.

[Patrick]

I am not your mate, never will be and don't want to be.

It had no warrant cause I just got the thing going.

Why did you reply anyway. Just to make my anger boil more, How do you know my bike is not road worthy, And how do you get it road worthy without testing it before a warrant.

Please, I don't want scorn, So your comment is a Nil like you.

Thanks for the other CONSTRUCTIVE comments

If she contacts the cops, expect a ticket for no wof or reg.

She could argue you pulled out in front of her. Failing to give way to other vehicle not turning is another $150.

Her failing to stop short, if that was argued, is $150.

You will get a visit soon, is my guess.....but then again, if she has thrown your details away too, call it a draw?

[boomer]

You'd rightly get booked for havin no rego, wof and by the sounds of it, no licence.
She'd be at fault ordinarily, however the crash shouldn't have happened.. or rather wouldn't have if you'd got a bike that was road worthy.


MY ADVICE... which you asked for ;) ..... Seek anger management... Sounds to me like you've got an anger problem.

thanks for the laugh ! :lol:

[Mom]

So I pull out of a side street and the rear brake jams on. Virtualy came to a stop in the middle of the road 20mtrs from the intersection and was rear ended by cage.

Driver she says I pulled out in front of her and we both have no mortage with a insurance co.

Also says why did I stop in the middle of the road.

Contained my anger when she says it's going be expensive and it's my fault.

I gave her my details and told her to ring me monday.
I chucked her details away.

Shall I tell her to look after her shit and I look after mine (She got a smashed headlight and scratched bumper and my guards fucked and 1 indicator.)

Just got the ride on the road and got no warrant and rego's on hold.

Any advice out there.

Thanks!


Anyone that collides with you from behind is at fault!

I worry about the de-registered, no warrant bike, and the rear brake jams on comment. Dont ride it till it is safe and legal.

If she does make contact with you, you need to decide if you want to persue it. I can assure you her insurance company will not take kindly to the state your bike was in at the time of the incident. You may even find yourself facing a bill for the repairs to her car!

Stay off the road till the bike is sorted!

[selectedgrub]

Yes I have got anger problems.

But my bike is not a piece of shit, and I resent anyone implying it.

I spent hours of work into it, and I love it like you guys must love yours.

Edit- Yeah bring on the Red bling. Please leave your name by it too

[Str8 Jacket]

Yes I have got anger problems.

But my bike is not a piece of shit, and I resent anyone implying it.

I spent hours of work into it, and I love it like you guys must love yours.

Dude! Stressing over this wont change anything. Whatever is going to happen will. I suggest you open a beer immediately!

[The Pastor]

if neither of you have insurance good luck in getting money dude.

Not having a wof will make it hard as well, esp if it was a brake failure that caused the accident.

the law says if somone rear ends you its their fault, but if you were at a give way sign, it may be differnt.

good luck with getting ur bike back on the road, it sux when stuff happens thats not your fault.

[Mom]

I suggest you open a beer immediately!

Of course you would say that... wine is better! :hug:

[selectedgrub]

FYI My ride...

[Str8 Jacket]

FYI My ride...

Hey thats pretty cool mate!

[Jantar]

... How do you know my bike is not road worthy,


So I pull out of a side street and the rear brake jams on.

Seems to me that your bike being unroadworthy was the primary cause of the accident. The other driver being unable to stop is the secondary cause.

The best outcome you can hope for is that you each meet your own costs. If it goes to a legal question the fact that your bike had no rego or wof will mean that you will pay for everything, even though you were the victim.

[boomer]

Seems to me that your bike being unroadworthy was the primary cause of the accident. The other driver being unable to stop is the secondary cause.

The best outcome you can hope for is that you each meet your own costs. If it goes to a legal question the fact that your bike had no rego or wof will mean that you will pay for everything, even though you were the victim.

are you a lawyer too huh??!! well blow me.

[Zuki Bandit]

FYI My ride...
Thats a groovy lookin ride dude!

[vespawarrior]

if they go on about no rego and no Wof tell them you cant get a rego without a wof, and you were on the way to the wof station - you are allowed to ride to a wof station if it has run out

[xwhatsit]

I am not your mate, never will be and don't want to be.

It had no warrant cause I just got the thing going.

Why did you reply anyway. Just to make my anger boil more, How do you know my bike is not road worthy, And how do you get it road worthy without testing it before a warrant.

Please, I don't want scorn, So your comment is a Nil like you.

Thanks for the other CONSTRUCTIVE comments

It is constructive. That's how the law would see it. I won't pass judgement on whether it's ethically/morally correct, but that's just how it would be seen if you went to court.

By the way, bare metal tank looks wicked :niceone:

Basically, anybody following behind you has to follow at a safe distance so they can stop in time. If you ever hit anybody up the arse, you're at fault. However there are one or two exceptions to that, and I think you've entered a grey area where those exceptions apply. If somebody pulls into your lane or pulls in front of you so your following distance is reduced before you can adjust, then you're not at fault if you rear-end them. So if you pulled in front of her so there wasn't much room in-between, then it's your fault.

I think if you went to court you'd be fucked because of the un-roadworthy condition anyway.

Hope the repairs to your bike aren't too hefty.

[NotaGoth]

Yes I have got anger problems.

But my bike is not a piece of shit, and I resent anyone implying it.

I spent hours of work into it, and I love it like you guys must love yours.

Edit- Yeah bring on the Red bling. Please leave your name by it too

No one was implying that your bike is a piece of shit. They were just pointing out that FACTS. No rego, no wof, and your brakes "jammed" on. Despite the fact that she hit you, the no rego no wof thing "IS" questionable. And definately doesn't work in your favour.

I'm sorry to hear about your accident none the less, and I hope you get things sorted, with the best outcome.

:mellow:

[pzkpfw]

Of course you would say that... wine is better! :hug:

He's had some.

[Mikkel]

If you pulled out from a give way sign and got rear-ended you're at blame by default!
If it wasn't at a give way sign and you're turning and she's going straight through, then you still have to give way.

The road code states that if you are to give way you're not allowed to pull out if it causes any motorists, that you're at to give way to, to change their speed or direction (i.e. braking or taking evasive action). Unless she was speeding excessively and you can prove that, then my guess is you have no chance of being found without fault.

As for being found at fault for rear-ending someone - I very much doubt you'd get away cleanly with slamming on your brakes for no other reason than to teach that "tailgating MOFO" a lesson and thus causing a crash.

As for the other parts:

No WOF - NOT OK! (and if this caused the situation to arise I don't think she could ever been found at fault.)
No Rego - NOT OK!

Best of luck with it, learn to contain that anger and go about it like a man.
Nice bike btw! :niceone:

"Life sucks, get a fucking helmet!" (And if you threw yours down in anger, you might need to replace it - just some friendly advice.)

[Bass]

I thought that you were allowed to operate an unwarrented vehicle for the "express purpose of obtaining a warrent."
I KNOW that you can't register the vehicle unless it is warrented.
If he was taking it for a test ride immediately prior to obtaining a warrent, for the express purpose of obtaining a warrent and can somehow prove it, does that not get him off the hook for both warrent and rego?

[Swoop]

You are not doing yourself any favours by posting this here...

[Max Preload]

I spent hours of work into it, and I love it like you guys must love yours.

Obviously without checking the brakes properly in the driveway or similar. I love my bike enough to ensure essentials like brakes are reliably operational before venturing onto the road.

[Max Preload]

I thought that you were allowed to operate an unwarranted vehicle for the "express purpose of obtaining a warrant"

That's correct.


If he was taking it for a test ride immediately prior to obtaining a warrent, for the express purpose of obtaining a warrant and can somehow prove it, does that not get him off the hook for both warrent and rego?

No - the exemption is only for the purpose of taking it to a place of repair or inspection, not for a test ride. And given this particular silly fuckers shithead attitude, he'd never be believed anyway.

[Pancakes]

Sounds like if it went to court you'd lose it again then her lawyer could finish you off by claiming you have a tendancy to be rash? They don't care what your bike is etc they see no WOF or rego and brake locked on (how does your brake lock on? You should have spent some of those hours of love on places that count?) If you don't want comments don't post in an open internmet forum, you must have real issues if Matt TG's comment got you so pissed off. He offered help and said he wanted things to go well for you. Throwning your helmet into the ground? dick.

[Max Preload]

...and brake locked on (how does your brake lock on?.

I'm guessing drum brake, worn shoes, worn cam going over centre... moron not checking it... :bleh:

[Pancakes]

Thats what I mean, I know they can but the hours of care and love to the bike argument is going to fall over real fast in court a.

[Max Preload]

Yep.

Got to hand it to him though - he might not be smart, but he sure is angry! <_<

[rwh]

The other thing that occurs to me is that if the brakes came on without the use of the pedal, then there's a reasonable chance the brake light didn't come on either - and I've heard that used as an exception to the 'following vehicle is always at fault' rule.

Richard

[fredie]

what about pedestrians that have no brake lights:rolleyes::whistle::slap:

[fredie]

how about just keep a good distance no matter what the vechele in fron is doing