Odd question

[kave]

Now I enjoy a steak as much as anyone, and have no problems wearing leather, but I was wondering if there was any way a vegan could race motorbikes in new zealand. Are there any non-leather racing outfits that someone would be allowed to race in, or does the inferiority of man-made products mean that hippies are being excluded from competitive racing?

[Maha]

Now I enjoy a steak as much as anyone, and have no problems wearing leather, but I was wondering if there was any way a vegan could race motorbikes in new zealand. Are there any non-leather racing outfits that someone would be allowed to race in, or does the inferiority of man-made products mean that hippies are being excluded from competitive racing?

Nothing wrong with a Hemp Suit......

[Nasty]

a short answer would be no!

[Clivoris]

What a bloody interesting question. If I have a medical dispensation because of migraines, can I race without a helmet?

[Nasty]

What a bloody interesting question. If I have a medical dispensation because of migraines, can I race without a helmet?

hehehe ... a short answer would be ... No ... you can not contract out of the law.

(thats what i was told anyways)

[98tls]

Absolutly Nandoor.........grow the dreds as long as you can stand the stench then whack em off, roll them up and use as chain,Cordura might fit the bill for you.

[Conquiztador]

Depends of what racing you are talking about:

Motocross: Yes, leathers not compulsory

Speedway: Yes, leathers not compulsory

Trials: Yes, leathers not compulsory

Enduro: Yes, leathers not compulsory

Freestyle: Yes, leathers not compulsory


That leaves Road Racing. Something I have never done. But surely with todays technology there is materials that are approved to race in that are lighter then leathers??

[hospitalfood]

it is actually illegal for a hippie or vegan to own a motorcycle, soon it will be illegal for them to leave the house.
in ten years time people will be tested at birth for the hippie/vegan gene, positive test results will induce public hanging.

as Syd said "never trust a hippie"

[madmal64]

Oh is there a market for this?:eek5:
Is it something I should be looking into?:dodge:
How many vegan bikers wanna go racing?:crazy:

[cowpoos]

fucking pack of dumb shits....why is it that a vegan can't wear motorcycle leathers?? just because they don't eat meat or animal products doesn't mean they can't wear leathers?? they ain't eating their leathers!!! lol

BTW...there is a vegan on KB that race's motorbikes in leathers...including leather boots!!
and another one that rides on the road all the time...thinks he's okay at wheelies...and his father in law truck company cart's cattle and sheep to the works all the time...how canb he live with himself?? I wonder!!

[saltydog]

Wouldn't the hippie tan a snapper skin or seek out an organic emu to make his/her race suit out of? But then again, I smell a rat?!

[Mom]

Nothing wrong with a Hemp Suit......

Once upon a time I investigated growing hemp commercially....is a very durable fibre....hmmmmmm mix with a bit of kevlar......the mind boggles :cool:



it is actually illegal for a hippie or vegan to own a motorcycle, soon it will be illegal for them to leave the house.
in ten years time people will be tested at birth for the hippie/vegan gene, positive test results will induce public hanging.

as Syd said "never trust a hippie"

I dont know mate...........Maha man seems to be on to something......:devil2:

[kave]

fucking pack of dumb shits....why is it that a vegan can't wear motorcycle leathers?? just because they don't eat meat or animal products doesn't mean they can't wear leathers?? they ain't eating their leathers!!! lol

BTW...there is a vegan on KB that race's motorbikes in leathers...including leather boots!!
and another one that rides on the road all the time...thinks he's okay at wheelies...and his father in law truck company cart's cattle and sheep to the works all the time...how canb he live with himself?? I wonder!!

There are degrees of veganism, but most who consider themselves as vegans would avoid using leather.


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1. Someone who does not eat meat, fish, dairy products or any foods containing animal fats or extracts, such as eggs, cheese and honey, often also avoiding using wool, leather and other animal-based substances.

[Headbanger]

......I can see those that don't enjoy eating the flesh of animals would have a problem draping the skin over themselves.

Just goes to show, Ya can't get rid of faulty genes, You would think this sort of fluffy thinking would have been wiped out right back at the start, when mankind had no choice but to kill animals for food and shelter.

Now the spoilt fucks are trying to stop others from wearing a fur coat.....

[saltydog]

There are degrees of veganism, but most who consider themselves as vegans would avoid using leather.

Talk about limiting yourself, what do these guys actually eat?
Nuts and grains?
Fark the bike suits made of whatever, give them a decent feed and let them race in their levis.

[Motu]

I am a vegan,and a hippy - I have no problem wearing leather,and have raced in leathers.I have no problem with my lifestyle choices - but obviously some others do.You want to discuss this in private - make a fucking appointment in person.

[Headbanger]

I am a vegan,and a hippy - I have no problem wearing leather,and have raced in leathers.I have no problem with my lifestyle choices - but obviously some others do.You want to discuss this in private - make a fucking appointment in person.


Muhahahahahahaha...,.Hooked a hippy.

Someone throw some washing powder on him:2thumbsup



Though he is a bit aggro for a hippy......:girlfight:

[saltydog]

Motu I respect your life choices along with a billion other beings out there.
I just love bacon and eggs too much.
:rolleyes:

[Sully60]

Talk about limiting yourself, what do these guys actually eat?
Nuts and grains?
Fark the bike suits made of whatever, give them a decent feed and let them race in their levis.

Going for the inbuilt elastomer angle, interesting.
I wonder what damage an denim clad, overweight, bouncing vegan would do to the BP on Taupo Quay?

[Conquiztador]

Hey U guys... Was this really about hippies and veggies? I was thinking the question was more to do about what other options then leathers there is to race in?

But then again I am not always on the same planet. Has something to do with those flashes of colours that keep on coming back to haunt me...

[98tls]

Now I enjoy a steak as much as anyone, and have no problems wearing leather, but I was wondering if there was any way a vegan could race motorbikes in new zealand. Are there any non-leather racing outfits that someone would be allowed to race in, or does the inferiority of man-made products mean that hippies are being excluded from competitive racing? Seems thats settled then............so whats your opinion on herpes? Its just i have these blisters and the mrs says "you shouldnt spend so much time with your face in the carpet" i do black out alot but<_<

[karmakillernz]

I have no problem with my lifestyle choices - but obviously some others do.You want to discuss this in private - make a fucking appointment in person.

I've often found that people can actually get almost offended when you tell them you're a vegetarian or vegan - as if it goes against everything they believe in. Even if they brought up the subject, they seem to end up on the attack in the end. :blink:

I just put it down to mad cow... ;)

[Headbanger]

I've often found that people can actually get almost offended when you tell them you're a vegetarian or vegan - as if it goes against everything they believe in. Even if they brought up the subject, they seem to end up on the attack in the end. :blink:

I just put it down to mad cow... ;)

We fear what we don't understand......

[Conquiztador]

I don't understand you. But fear...:rofl:
hahahahaha...

[Headbanger]

It was but a joke, perhaps too subtle.

I'll have to make it more blatantly obvious in future.....Just like yours

[Boob Johnson]

it is actually illegal for a hippie or vegan to own a motorcycle, soon it will be illegal for them to leave the house.
in ten years time people will be tested at birth for the hippie/vegan gene, positive test results will induce public hanging.

as Syd said "never trust a hippie"LMFAO!!!


Hospital Food for President :clap:




I've often found that people can actually get almost offended when you tell them you're a vegetarian or vegan - as if it goes against everything they believe in. Even if they brought up the subject, they seem to end up on the attack in the end. :blink:

I just put it down to mad cow... ;)LMFAO!!! Nice one.

Great thread btw, loving (and my two big fuck off steaks I had last night) :bleh:



I am a vegan,and a hippy - I have no problem wearing leather,and have raced in leathers.I have no problem with my lifestyle choices - but obviously some others do.You want to discuss this in private - make a fucking appointment in person.
Yeah he's a bit aggressive for a hippy I suspect. One of these wannabe hippies id say. My parents were hippies when I was a kid, everyone was all chilled out, peace, love & vegetables n all that, not "if you don't like the fact im a vege eating freak come over here n say that & ill punch ya lights out" type thing :laugh:

[Conquiztador]

It was but a joke, perhaps too subtle.

I'll have to make it more blatantly obvious in future.....Just like yours

Hmmm.... I was not joking...

[Headbanger]

Hmmm.... I was not joking...

Ok, You were trying to be clever, either way it was a fail. My post went over your head, sorry about that, as noted I'll keep it simple and add smilies in future to help with your comprehension.

[Motu]

If you were there in the scene in the '70's,you would know what a real hippy is.....we weren't luvvy duvvy,we had a shit load of fun,and we didn't back down...from nuthin'.We were anti establishment....always,for all time.I didn't sell out for my cause of mayhem for all.

I don't know why people have to defend themselves against vegetarians and vegans....surely it should be us that picks on them? Kinda like gun threads in a US forum - one post anti gun,and it goes on for 7 pages in defense of guns....who's got the problem?????

[saltydog]

Kinda like gun threads in a US forum - one post anti gun,and it goes on for 7 pages in defense of guns....who's got the problem?????

Theres always got to be one. And with a message no less.
What-ever-Trevor.
Like that first bike in your gallery, was that from the 70's as well?

[Boob Johnson]

If you were there in the scene in the '70's,you would know what a real hippy is.....we weren't luvvy duvvy,we had a shit load of fun,and we didn't back down...from nuthin'.We were anti establishment....always,for all time.I didn't sell out for my cause of mayhem for all.

I don't know why people have to defend themselves against vegetarians and vegans....surely it should be us that picks on them? Kinda like gun threads in a US forum - one post anti gun,and it goes on for 7 pages in defense of guns....who's got the problem?????I was born in the very early 70's & was surrounded by hippies growing up (dunno if my long hair meant I was one :laugh:) but yeah they were all luvvy duvvy actually, certainly all my parent hippy friends were, all very chilled out. Anti est. for sure but certainly none of this "I don't back down for no one". You sound like a burn out man, not a true hippy.

[Headbanger]

I grew up in the 70's, I was surrounded by bikers......

Thinking about it now, I'm thinking thats pretty damn cool.

[Ixion]

I was born in the very early 70's & was surrounded by hippies growing up (dunno if my long hair meant I was one :laugh:) but yeah they were all luvvy duvvy actually, certainly all my parent hippy friends were, all very chilled out. Anti est. for sure but certainly none of this "I don't back down for no one". You sound like a burn out man, not a true hippy.

Then you were born 20 years too late to have seen anything of the real hippie movement, and speak of that whereof you know not.

Mr Motu is (or was) a genuine hippie all right.

And the hippie movement didn't back down. Remember this was the age of civil rights of the demonstrations at Berkley, anti Vietnam war protests , sit ins, when civil rights was invented

I have seen a hundred or so hippies stage a sit in in the middle of Princes Street outside the University. (sitting in the road blocking it) And police move in to break them up with batons. Whereupon a tight wedge of more hippies charged the police. University students now are timid compliant and subservient to the Man. We weren't .

I remember the University capping bike rides when hundreds (many hundreds) of bikes would ride through the grounds and buildings of every school and government building we could find. Literally, through the buildings, down the corridors. The police tried to prevent it and break us up, but they were too much outnumbered.

I think it was your parents who were the wannabes.

[Boob Johnson]

blah blah blah, I took too much acid & have blown my brains out
Yeah no kidding old man. Don't act like you know me or my parents old timer :rolleyes:

[Motu]

And it just wasn't ''hippies'' - the was a whole group of young people who weren't having anything to do with what the ''short back and sides,rugby racing and beer,6 o'clock swill,tea and scones'' generation had planned out for them.They ranged from university types to kids who dropped out of high school,to bikies,the motorcycle gangs.Anyone who objected to the Keith Holyoak ideal New Zealander was in the same cause.

So I was a Hippy Biker,I had long hair and dirty clothes,and I rode a dirty noisy motorcycle.We could join one group or the other,accepted all the same.And that's what we are talking about here isn't it? A hippy vegan who rides a motorcycle and races it wearing leather?

Like I said - I don't have a problem with my lifestyle choices,my mind is at ease with no conflict over this.So why does...um,whatzhisname who started this thread have a problem with what someone else does,or thinks?

[Ixion]

Yeah no kidding old man. Don't act like you know me or my parents old timer

By your words I know you. Better than you know Mr Motu or I , since we have had many more years to observe and measure such as you. Don't presume to insult others if you do not wish to be repaid in like kind. And when you do, and are, don't whine. That is one of the lessons you must learn as ylou grow up.

[Boob Johnson]

By your words I know you.Bit past your bedtime old man, your starting to dribble :tugger:

[Ixion]

No, it is customary for adults to relax with a glass of wine, once the children have their nappies changed and are put to bed. Once your parents have settled you we'll open a bottle.

[Ixion]

grow a fucking brain you old cunt

Oh dear. I do not think the nappy will be sufficient. I am *so* sorry for your mother. And the washing machine! It seems that the shit doesn't just come from your arse. I wonder if Treasures do gags?

[Mikkel]

Much more interesting regarding vegans, not ingesting animal produce:

"Spit or swallow?"

And if veganism isn't stupid enough, go look up fruitarians and breatharians... I promise it'll be a laugh!

[slowpoke]

Like I said - I don't have a problem with my lifestyle choices,my mind is at ease with no conflict over this.So why does...um,whatzhisname who started this thread have a problem with what someone else does,or thinks?


By your words I know you. Better than you know Mr Motu or I , since we have had many more years to observe and measure such as you. Don't presume to insult others if you do not wish to be repaid in like kind. And when you do, and are, don't whine. That is one of the lessons you must learn as ylou grow up.

Well said gentlemen. I use the word "gentlemen" quite literally because you've responded far more politely than was deserved by a previous poster. Isn't it funny how some supposedly civilsed societies poor scorn on our mature bretheren and other less civilised peoples value their experience and views on life.....it kinda shows how far we haven't come I guess.

As for the hippy thing....they changed the world, challenging the establishment, living an alternative lifestyle. What do we do? Buckle and conform, sign lil' petitions, whinge on an internet forum...real alternative thinkers us (Tui ad)

The same goes for the Vegan/Vegetarian thing. In this day and age there is no justifiable reason why other living creatures should die to give us food. We have the techology and ability to live without killing animals yet we chose to do it anyway, simply because we like the taste. We quibble over killing whales/dolphins/dogs/horses yet we happily chop up cows, sheep, pigs...what's the difference? It's natural to hunt/kill etc you say? Bullshit, we are supposed to be an advanced society and it just shows again how far we haven't come.

Nup, I'm not a vegetarian....but I wish I had the strength to be one...and I take my hat off to all those vegans/vegetarians out there 'cos they are made of sterner stuff than most of us are.

[Mikkel]

The same goes for the Vegan/Vegetarian thing. In this day and age there is no justifiable reason why other living creatures should die to give us food. We have the techology and ability to live without killing animals yet we chose to do it anyway, simply because we like the taste. We quibble over killing whales/dolphins/dogs/horses yet we happily chop up cows, sheep, pigs...what's the difference? It's natural to hunt/kill etc you say? Bullshit, we are supposed to be an advanced society and it just shows again how far we haven't come.

I strongly believe that plants have feelings too. They certainly have a life - that can not be contested. Still, I don't see that many people talking about plant rights and mourning the willful murder of plants to accomodate the ravenous hunger of evil mankind.


Nup, I'm not a vegetarian....but I wish I had the strength to be one...and I take my hat off to all those vegans/vegetarians out there 'cos they are made of sterner stuff than most of us are.

Tui anyone?

Vegetarianism is all ok in my book, vegans etc. as well. However, don't come and pretend that these lifestyle choices are anything but a LUXURY that we have the freedom to undertake because of international trade and economic strength! I love the ones that are hardline vegetarians, with a moral highground, but still eat fish - because it's not really meat, it's fish... How convenient.

If we was stranded on a remote island I'd consume even you to survive - and I might even wait until you died by yourself.

[Boob Johnson]

I think it was your parents who were the wannabes.
When you start crapping on about who was a real hippie & who wasn't (especially about people you know not) you come across as a silly old cunt. I stand by my previous words :moon:

[Headbanger]

By your words I know you. Better than you know Mr Motu or I , since we have had many more years to observe and measure such as you. Don't presume to insult others if you do not wish to be repaid in like kind. And when you do, and are, don't whine. That is one of the lessons you must learn as you grow up.

ah, You must be from the olden days, when peoples shit didn't stink.

[Conquiztador]

Ok, You were trying to be clever, either way it was a fail. My post went over your head, sorry about that, as noted I'll keep it simple and add smilies in future to help with your comprehension.

The "We fear what we don't understand......" post? No, did not go over my head. It sort of did not take off. But I do get the impression that you are afraid of many things. Ahhh... Now I get it! You are reaching out! You want a hug?

[Grahameeboy]

fucking pack of dumb shits....why is it that a vegan can't wear motorcycle leathers?? just because they don't eat meat or animal products doesn't mean they can't wear leathers?? they ain't eating their leathers!!! lol

BTW...there is a vegan on KB that race's motorbikes in leathers...including leather boots!!
and another one that rides on the road all the time...thinks he's okay at wheelies...and his father in law truck company cart's cattle and sheep to the works all the time...how canb he live with himself?? I wonder!!

Simple, he is not a Vegan

[cowpoos]

Simple, he is not a Vegan
what???????????????????

[Grahameeboy]

what???????????????????

I know it's a shock.....but think how he feels??

[klingon]

Yay for hippies! :love:

[JMemonic]

Ok I see this thread going way off the track from the original question, there are various schools of though on how far a person has to go to be a Vego or Vegan, the Hare Krishna religion precludes the use of any animal products unless the animal died naturally, so in most cases leather would be out, then as Mikkel pointed out there are those who do not consider fish as a taboo flesh to eat, then there is the ultimate Vegans who throw scorn on even the Krishna's over their use of milk

It all comes down to a persons individual belief on whether leather is a product that they can use, if one went to the extreme it would not even be question as the individual would not even use modern transport.

A persons lifestyle choices no matter what they are does not increase or decrease their value, why do some folks seem to think its a big issue if one person chooses not to eat animal flesh, are they in some way harming the rest of society? I know there are the extremists out there but you pick any subject and you will find this type of activity not just eating choices.

Me I chose not to eat red meat, I eat chicken only as I am allergic to fish, I do wear leather products, in fact I carve leather as a hobby, it my personal choice.

[The Stranger]

Now I enjoy a steak as much as anyone, and have no problems wearing leather, but I was wondering if there was any way a vegan could race motorbikes in new zealand. Are there any non-leather racing outfits that someone would be allowed to race in, or does the inferiority of man-made products mean that hippies are being excluded from competitive racing?

Don't racing vegans then have a bigger problem? What fuel are they going to use, surely not fuel derived from old dinosaurs?

[cowpoos]

I know it's a shock.....but think how he feels??
who...what are you talking about?

[Grahameeboy]

who...what are you talking about?

Your vegan mates.............

[cowpoos]

I dunno...what your talking about graham?? please explain...I'm genuwinly lost here?

[_intense_]

fucking pack of dumb shits....why is it that a vegan can't wear motorcycle leathers?? just because they don't eat meat or animal products doesn't mean they can't wear leathers?? they ain't eating their leathers!!! lol

BTW...there is a vegan on KB that race's motorbikes in leathers...including leather boots!!
and another one that rides on the road all the time...thinks he's okay at wheelies...and his father in law truck company cart's cattle and sheep to the works all the time...how canb he live with himself?? I wonder!!

mmmmmm... outburst.

nice one, bling$ henceforth!

[cowpoos]

I'm all about outbursts dude!! in ever shape or form!! ;)