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Phil W
24th November 2007, 10:23
Not been on this forum long. Only a few posts (suppose that makes me less of a biker in some peoples eyes eh?).
But the racist bullshit on this site saddens and appalls me. So I've decided to piss off and not bother with KB. Now this site certainly does not need me, I dont need it. I certainly dont need to suffer the offensive rubbish that often gets posted here.
I've been riding 25 years and rode in many countries with all kinds of people. Some of them I've liked, some not. But I've never needed to measure thier worth by the colour of thier skin or cultural beliefs.
I have found that thier is always a certain element in the biker community who believe that the 'white power" thing makes them real bikers. Probably grew up reading Easyrider or Outlaw Biker magazines. Often found them to be unfortunates, tend to look for easy targets to blame thier own inadequacies on.
Others I have met simply hold a huge sense of entitlement and believe all the toys should belong to them and only they should make the rules.
This forum seems to have an abundance of the above, some idiot even managed to get in some racist idiocy in a post about people doing roadworks outside his house recently.
Anyway, no one forces any of us to be here and I'm exercising my judgement.
If anyone wants to talk about the above my names Phil, I ride a BMW R1200C. I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

Disco Dan
24th November 2007, 10:26
We just dont like Gingers.

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 10:27
Have you ever been on a KB ride? The skin colours are an eye opener, if you really think 'we' are racist. The same applies to the Jap/Harley/Brit thing

Pex Adams
24th November 2007, 10:29
Have I missed something, I've been a member on this site for 2 years and never read anything close to racism, which I'm sure the moderators would take care of fairly promptly if there was.
As for White power blarblar.. I'm sorry Phil but your not in Kansas anymore!:wacko:

paturoa
24th November 2007, 10:31
....and I'm exercising my judgement......

Sounds like you are pre-judging me too.

Disco Dan
24th November 2007, 10:34
99% of the time its all in good fun...

See attached pic titled: "Fa Fa"

imdying
24th November 2007, 10:35
Niggers niggers niggers :D :rofl:

SpankMe
24th November 2007, 10:36
oh dear. Another forum/net noob who thinks he has grasped the thoughts of thousands by reading a few select posts.

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 10:36
And while where having rant...

What about all the Homophobia ?.....

...Come on people, "JUST BUY A HONDA" !!!! you know you want to :msn-wink:

TLMAN
24th November 2007, 10:36
Have I missed something, I've been a member on this site for 2 years and never read anything close to racism, which I'm sure the moderators would take care of fairly promptly if there was.

Same here.

Back it up with some quotes from posts so we can understand a little better Phil W......

Pex Adams
24th November 2007, 10:38
And while where having rant...

What about all the Homophobia ?.....

...Come on people, "JUST BUY A HONDA" !!!! you know you want to :msn-wink:

Opp's I nearly heard myself calling you a Homo then... Oh wait I can say that on here:spanking::spanking::spanking:

Disco Dan
24th November 2007, 10:39
Niggers niggers niggers :D :rofl:

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"itchy trigger finger niggers"

zeocen
24th November 2007, 10:48
Every KB ride I've been old has had white, black, purple, yellow, even multicoloured (gijoe hoho) riders. We seem to get on in harmony, we also seem to know when a dig is just light hearted banter on the forums.

But then again, if you frequented this site a bit more often and went on some rides before voicing your opinion, you'd probably know this too.

So yeah, that does make you less of a biker to me.

Cya!

boomer
24th November 2007, 10:48
Dig dat shit niggaz


It's 'cos i'm white innit?

RC1
24th November 2007, 10:49
have been called racist by people who dont really know me , but people who do know me know a lot of my friends are "coloured", my 1st child is nuian, my other 3 are maori, why does this make me a racist ??

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 10:50
Opp's I nearly heard myself calling you a Homo then... Oh wait I can say that on here:spanking::spanking::spanking:

I was gonna respond with a witty retort, but alas, Ive realised

1. I aint got one in me at the mo (homo... got one in me... get it get it)
2. This post, as well as pointless and innacurate, is in the Rant and Rave forum meaning it aint counting towards my post count and Im still shy of that elusive 100th post...

Go damm, now im angry, Im being called a Homo,,,, Argh Im feeling inadequate, I must lash out....
:mad:




..."Disco ya big Whitey POM coont"

Virago
24th November 2007, 10:50
...See you around.

Bye bye...:bye:

boomer
24th November 2007, 10:52
Bye bye...:bye:

I thought you'd never leave... SEE YA !


:wari::wari::wari::banana::banana::banana: :wari: :wari: :wari:

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 10:52
Dig dat shit niggaz

It's 'cos i'm white innit?



I..."Disco ya big Whitey POM coont"


Ah look.... theres two of em !!! :girlfight:

roogazza
24th November 2007, 10:53
bye bye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zeocen
24th November 2007, 10:53
have been called racist by people who dont really know me , but people who do know me know a lot of my friends are "coloured", my 1st child is nuian, my other 3 are maori, why does this make me a racist ??

Because its 3 to 1 you racist bastard! Give the nuian a chance !

Pex Adams
24th November 2007, 10:54
Go damm, now im angry, Im being called a Homo,,,, Argh Im feeling inadequate, I must lash out....
:mad:




..."Disco ya big Whitey POM coont"

It's ok honey, let it all out... Its only a Homo Honda your riding, one day you'll have something decent.

gijoe1313
24th November 2007, 10:55
I'm an equal opportunity bigot, I hate everyone equally! No faves! :lol:

Must suck being a whitey, means you can't even so much think of a racist thought before being stuck with some stupid Bradford type bylaw! :rofl:

So, where all dem white women at? (injoke with zeocen, something to do with his girlfriend and an asian guy getting some payback for decades of asian girly abuse! :lol:)

Virago
24th November 2007, 10:57
I thought you'd never leave... SEE YA !


:wari::wari::wari::banana::banana::banana: :wari: :wari: :wari:


I'm baaaackkkkk....! :bleh:

Scouse
24th November 2007, 10:57
I'm not rasist some colourd people even live down my street

boomer
24th November 2007, 10:57
Ah look.... theres two of em !!! :girlfight:

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of ghey honduh men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my white, black or green brothers.

SpankMe
24th November 2007, 10:59
So, where all dem white women at?

Fuck dat boring shit, gimme the black and yellow meat :buggerd:

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 10:59
So, where all dem white women at?

...In the Chow mein ? you tell us.... :whistle:

:rofl:

99TLS
24th November 2007, 11:02
I'm not rasist some colourd people even live down my street

arent those just judder bars??:dodge:

boomer
24th November 2007, 11:08
arent those just judder bars??:dodge:

oi.. i resemble that comment Honkie!

kro
24th November 2007, 11:09
It's a pity that these racist remarks have coloured your first impressions of Kiwbiker mate. I have seen a bit of shit round here, but mainly by drop kicks whose posts I just skip over now, and don't read.

The face to face world has no moderators dude, people say what's on their mind, and if its offensive enough, they get a fist to the face for it. Same applies here I think. I would rather a racist was racist on the forum, and did not try to hide it, at least that way we know what the person is like.
Championing the "cause" of the minorities is possibly the most futile act when attempted over the internet. Do it in person, and you will make a difference.

Patrick
24th November 2007, 11:11
Hey Phil, you've only been here for a month!!! Examples would help, but I can't help thinking...

Do ya know the difference between humour and racism?

Those that make some of the racist comments... do you know what ethnicity they actually are??????? You might be totally surprised..... Some of the worst racist jokes are actually said by those whose race is that which the piss is being taken out on... A bit like Billy T JAMES... and he is a legend!!!

Do what you gotta... some good folk on here...

(Some not so good too... but hey, that is what the "ignore" function is for, if ya want...).

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 11:17
path of the righteous

...Began in 1963 and ended in 2003 with the death of "Bobby Hatfield" and bought us crowd favourites like "Unchained Melody"

:bleh:

RC1
24th November 2007, 11:21
...Began in 1963 and ended in 2003 with the death of "Bobby Hatfield" and bought us crowd favourites like "Unchained Melody"

:bleh:

yaeh that really fills the floor that one :laugh::laugh:

imdying
24th November 2007, 11:23
QUIT TALKING BLAAAAACK

Mom
24th November 2007, 11:25
If anyone wants to talk about the above my names Phil, I ride a BMW R1200C. I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

Good on you Phil, this sounds like a really good time for you to leave the forum. Heaven help us poor racist contributors, who hide behind a nickname. If you had stuck around for a bit longer you would discover that there are many of us here that "know" one another, and shock horror! even know peoples real names :eek5:

BTW curiosity makes me want to know something........Your bike is black right?

boomer
24th November 2007, 11:30
......Your bike is black right?


Duh... !!!!

like theres any OTHER colour?!

Skyryder
24th November 2007, 11:36
Not been on this forum long. Only a few posts (suppose that makes me less of a biker in some peoples eyes eh?).
But the racist bullshit on this site saddens and appalls me. So I've decided to piss off and not bother with KB. Now this site certainly does not need me, I dont need it. I certainly dont need to suffer the offensive rubbish that often gets posted here.
I've been riding 25 years and rode in many countries with all kinds of people. Some of them I've liked, some not. But I've never needed to measure thier worth by the colour of thier skin or cultural beliefs.
I have found that thier is always a certain element in the biker community who believe that the 'white power" thing makes them real bikers. Probably grew up reading Easyrider or Outlaw Biker magazines. Often found them to be unfortunates, tend to look for easy targets to blame thier own inadequacies on.
Others I have met simply hold a huge sense of entitlement and believe all the toys should belong to them and only they should make the rules.
This forum seems to have an abundance of the above, some idiot even managed to get in some racist idiocy in a post about people doing roadworks outside his house recently.
Anyway, no one forces any of us to be here and I'm exercising my judgement.
If anyone wants to talk about the above my names Phil, I ride a BMW R1200C. I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

That's a pity Phill W. I can't speak for others but on here I'll slag all and sundry for whatever reason but out on the road I'll give them the shirt on my back if it will them get home safely. That's the beauty about this site we are all Jekle and Hydes well some are. Most are just plain nice both here and 'there.'

Skyryder

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 11:39
T. Most are just plain nice both here and 'there.'


You speak for yourself, whiteboy...

James Deuce
24th November 2007, 11:40
And while where having rant...

What about all the Homophobia ?.....

...Come on people, "JUST BUY A HONDA" !!!! you know you want to :msn-wink:

I'm thinking of going Gay for one of these:
<img src=http://thekneeslider.com/images/hondacb1100f.jpg>

Headbanger
24th November 2007, 11:40
Kill all da white peeeple, Den we be freee.

gijoe1313
24th November 2007, 11:44
Aiyah, wo bu zhidao ni shuo sheme! Sumimasen shitsurei shimasu, bokku wa wakarimasen!

I'm a 3rd generation kiwi asian fella, but I've only been mistaken for chinese twice in my life - I look more Hori/Hawaiian/Indonesian/etc. :lol:

Hells teeth, I remember getting told off by a Samoan woman for ignoring her when she was speaking to me ... only I didn't know since it was in Samoan! :scratch:

In Japan, I've been approached for directions by japanese people! :slap: Funny though, one time I actually knew the place they wanted and gave them instructions "migi, hidari, straighto!" :rofl: never twigged to them that I wasn't a slant eyed nipper! :eek: (I was tempted to yell out "Remember Nanking you muddaf**kers!!?")

but yeah, KB is a bastion of un-PCness, thank gawd fer that!

Skyryder
24th November 2007, 11:46
You speak for yourself, whiteboy...



I think I did. Me white? Not in the summer time. I can pass for an Arab. have you seen my hooter? Honky Honky Honky. Now that's a hoot. Bloody icons wont work again.

Skyryder

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 11:48
(I was tempted to yell out "Remember Nanking you muddaf**kers!!?")


Tempting eh....Tiannamen Square....Tibet...
teehee

James Deuce
24th November 2007, 11:48
(I was tempted to yell out "Remember Nanking you muddaf**kers!!?")


Bahahahahahahaaa

<img src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/data/179/gijoe.jpg>

yungatart
24th November 2007, 11:50
I'm not racist....






I just don't like darkies.....








Who does?

James Deuce
24th November 2007, 11:51
Said Billy T's 14th cousin, twice removed.

Laava
24th November 2007, 12:22
Wow! 4 pages in less than 2 hrs!
:blink:

pzkpfw
24th November 2007, 12:30
I'm thinking of going Gay for one of these:
(pic of a Honda cb1100f)

Funnily enough, that looks like a bathroom...



I'm a 3rd generation kiwi asian fella,....

My favourite Raybon Kan line: he's told "go back where you came from!", and he's like "piss off, I'm not going back to Masterton!"

tri boy
24th November 2007, 12:40
I'm white most of the time.
Red when I'm sunburnt.
Yellow/Green when I'm sick.
Black and Blue when Kanny beats me up.
So I can say what I like.:bleh:

Stick around ya weido. This place rocks.:2thumbsup

Conquiztador
24th November 2007, 12:42
Not been on this forum long. Only a few posts (suppose that makes me less of a biker in some peoples eyes eh?).
But the racist bullshit on this site saddens and appalls me. So I've decided to piss off and not bother with KB. Now this site certainly does not need me, I dont need it. I certainly dont need to suffer the offensive rubbish that often gets posted here.

Judgemental. A month and a few posts. And you know it all. I been here 1/2 a year and I know shit. But I can here vent whatever I like. And as real bikers do they tell me straight. No other way. You sound like a Commuter to me...(do the search)


I've been riding 25 years and rode in many countries with all kinds of people.

Right. And you have never wondered why you always had the need to move on? Perhaps you sort of did not fit in...


I have found that thier is always a certain element in the biker community who believe that the 'white power" thing makes them real bikers. Probably grew up reading Easyrider or Outlaw Biker magazines. Often found them to be unfortunates, tend to look for easy targets to blame thier own inadequacies on.

I love those magz. And 50 others. Yes there is "White Power" in NZ. But so is there "Black Power" (not the gang!!) All to their own. A biker is a biker (Not to be confused with a Commuter, do the search) I help them all, I have a beer with them all. The ones I like are the ones who have clear opinions. I care not what they are. As long as they stand for them. The only thing that gets me is bikers who think they are a class above...


I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

You are missing the point dear Phil W. Mum and dad gave you the name they wanted you to have. They had no idea who you were gonna grow up to be. That name does not represent me today. Conquiztador does. It is me. But perhaps Phil W is what you are?

No you wont. I bet on that we do not move in the same circles. You would have left before I even got there. And I am early...


EDIT: One more thing: Ignorent. You have not even bothered to read the rules for KB. You posted in wrong forum!! That should tell us all we need to know!!

merv
24th November 2007, 13:02
I guess we won't miss Phil then. He didn't post much anyway.

As for the racists, I'm buggered if I know who he was talking about.

JMemonic
24th November 2007, 13:05
If you had said un- pc I would have said thankfully, as to racist where ? in the joke section ha f'in ha.

Good bye, enjoy life and might I suggest looking for a multi religion pc tree hugging bike form in future on the internet that is moderated to heck and back is as dull as watching grass grow, good luck in finding it.

Flatcap
24th November 2007, 13:05
Usually, if I don't like a party, I go home. I tend not to give other party-goers a lecture on why I think the party sucks....

Conquiztador
24th November 2007, 13:08
Usually, if I don't like a party, I go home. I tend not to give other party-goers a lecture on why I think the party sucks....

Dangerous too...

Finn
24th November 2007, 13:08
There's black people on KB? That explains were my post count went.

alley cat
24th November 2007, 13:28
I dont like nips. Does that make me a racist?
Too bad, they should learn to drive:ar15:
Sorry phyills.

Katman
24th November 2007, 13:36
I'm not racist but I once beat up a black cunt who was.:msn-wink:

mstriumph
24th November 2007, 13:40
Not been on this forum long. Only a few posts (suppose that makes me less of a biker in some peoples eyes eh?).
But the racist bullshit on this site saddens and appalls me. So I've decided to piss off and not bother with KB. Now this site certainly does not need me, I dont need it. I certainly dont need to suffer the offensive rubbish that often gets posted here.
I've been riding 25 years and rode in many countries with all kinds of people. Some of them I've liked, some not. But I've never needed to measure thier worth by the colour of thier skin or cultural beliefs.
I have found that thier is always a certain element in the biker community who believe that the 'white power" thing makes them real bikers. Probably grew up reading Easyrider or Outlaw Biker magazines. Often found them to be unfortunates, tend to look for easy targets to blame thier own inadequacies on.
Others I have met simply hold a huge sense of entitlement and believe all the toys should belong to them and only they should make the rules.
This forum seems to have an abundance of the above, some idiot even managed to get in some racist idiocy in a post about people doing roadworks outside his house recently.
Anyway, no one forces any of us to be here and I'm exercising my judgement.
If anyone wants to talk about the above my names Phil, I ride a BMW R1200C. I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

after the self-satisfied, santimonious, judgemental, RACIST crapola you have spouted above .... NOT IF I SEE YOU FIRST, FELLA :cool:

i'm fussy about those with whom i ride and associate

scorpious
24th November 2007, 13:42
hey phill,
Are you "white" or "black"?

I have never had any of my maori friends get offended by one of my black jokes, Never.
Its always some other politically correct white moron who overhears that gets angry.why the hell would a light colored person get offended by a maori joke?
phill mate, get a life!
:finger:

mynameis
24th November 2007, 13:47
I think the fella got offended by Finns posts:

Um this one (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1308588&postcount=1)

Or maybe this one (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1308608&postcount=6)

But then again he's just a miserable white man :D

candor
24th November 2007, 14:09
Aah thankyou, my name is. Link near made me cry. Its like good british 1970's tv, or enid blyton's return. I hope no-one here (still) reports Finn/KB to the human rights commission. Initial post was double racism, everyone's useless. Apologies all round?

nadroj
24th November 2007, 14:13
Good troll...

Jantar
24th November 2007, 14:23
Many years ago a wise teacher was very tough on any of his pupils who wrote anything racist. His test of whether or not an item was racist was to remove the word/s that mentioned race, and replace it/them with person or people. If the substance of the statement didn't change, then it was racist. If it did change, then it was either fact or honest opinion.

As an example of how this test is applied here is a sample that mynameis reffered to:
However, speaking of coconuts a majority of the people currently working outside my house are coconuts so you could be right. If we replace the word "coconuts" with "people" the sentence becomes meaningless, so the sentence is not racist. It is probably derogatory though, but that is another argument.

scracha
24th November 2007, 15:01
names Phil, I ride a BMW R1200C. I dont hide my identity or what I believe behind some nickname or forum title.
See you around.

You don't hide behind a nickname but only give out your first name. I'll get an infraction for this but fuck off.

Dave-
24th November 2007, 15:09
I haven't seen anything racist on KB....perhaps this isnt a good thing but I dont feel threatened when posting on here, I dont see why this would change if I had a different tone of skin

(im not white, im opaque)

fireball
24th November 2007, 15:17
mr high and mighty phil macrackin come down off your little pedistool that you no doubt hauled your white fat ass onto and take a look at the real world......

stop blowing smoke up your own ass you are the one discriminating against us all labeling us as racists

you are in the wrong not us so shut up and fuck off.

Blue Thunder
24th November 2007, 15:19
Hey Phill,
Who gives a Fat rats arse what color people are its what is inside that matters.
The world would be a truly boring place if every one was the same
Making an assumtion that we are racist on this site is a crock of shit:2guns:
Assume= makes an arse out of you and me.
There are a lot of true great people hear maybe you should have taken the time to get to know a few of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck where ever you may go:cold:

carver
24th November 2007, 15:29
And while where having rant...

What about all the Homophobia ?.....

...Come on people, "JUST BUY A HONDA" !!!! you know you want to :msn-wink:

sidewinder and i have been victims of homophobia on this site

and were not even gay!

sidewinder has a KKK flag on his avatar

Mikkel
24th November 2007, 15:40
There's black people on KB? That explains were my post count went.

You must spread... :lol:

Luckylegs
24th November 2007, 15:48
sidewinder and i have been victims of homophobia on this site

and were not even gay!

sidewinder has a KKK flag on his avatar

Does this mean you are now ????




...See the spelling and grammar nazi's were right, pronunciation does matter !!!

Toaster
24th November 2007, 15:49
oh dear. Another forum/net noob who thinks he has grasped the thoughts of thousands by reading a few select posts.

Exactly. Someone set an intelligence test to join please.

Conquiztador
24th November 2007, 15:55
Exactly. Someone set an intelligence test to join please.

Thanks. Bling 2 U. That just made me think of a thread...

Mikkel
24th November 2007, 16:02
The best thing about racism is the jokes... :niceone:

What do you get if you cross an african and an arab?
A thief who can't be arsed to steal!

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 16:04
mr high and mighty phil macrackin come down off your little pedistool that you no doubt hauled your white fat ass onto and take a look at the real world......

stop blowing smoke up your own ass you are the one discriminating against us all labeling us as racists

you are in the wrong not us so shut up and fuck off.

Oi, you! You're 'one of those'...so you're not allowed to give your opinion. And I can say that cos I'm black.:bleh::innocent:

fireball
24th November 2007, 16:17
Oi, you! You're 'one of those'...so you're not allowed to give your opinion. And I can say that cos I'm black.:bleh::innocent:

oh shit, i knew something was wrong.....

*mental note to self buy a honda*

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 16:20
oh shit, i knew something was wrong.....



Nothing wrong with being black....

martybabe
24th November 2007, 16:22
Have you ever been on a KB ride? The skin colours are an eye opener, if you really think 'we' are racist. The same applies to the Jap/Harley/Brit thing
Oi who you calling a Brit thing:gob:

fireball
24th November 2007, 16:23
Nothing wrong with being black....

you know what they say about once you go black.........


.....yellow looks better!

MSTRS
24th November 2007, 16:46
you know what they say about once you go black.........


.....yellow looks better!

Yeah, that's only cos the bruises are fading.

westie
24th November 2007, 17:02
I have a white bike does that make me racist. Probably.

So where is this p hil, starts up a thread and then bails.

merv
24th November 2007, 17:05
I have a white bike does that make me racist. Probably.


Probably not the bike, but being a bogan Westie might make you that way :laugh:.

James Deuce
24th November 2007, 17:06
So where is this p hil, starts up a thread and then bails.
No man goes before his time - unless the boss leaves early.

martybabe
24th November 2007, 17:25
:blink: Ah the race issue once again,I've never quite got it.If you put an eachway bet on,why does it cost twice as much as a 'to win' bet.And why do ya'll keep talkin about the colour of the horses? Don't understand this thread.:laugh:

James Deuce
24th November 2007, 17:27
:blink: Ah the race issue once again,I've never quite got it.If you put an eachway bet on,why does it cost twice as much as a 'to win' bet.And why do ya'll keep talkin about the colour of the horses? Don't understand this thread.:laugh:
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

martybabe
24th November 2007, 17:37
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

you have offended my socks sir,I shall not return to this thread until I've grown up!:banana::scratch:

inlinefour
24th November 2007, 17:41
yeah, KB is a bastion of un-PCness, thank gawd fer that!

This above comment should be nominated for quote of the year.

As for the original individual who started the thread, do you have a sense of humour? As I suspect that if you did, you would be laughing along with the rest of us. Hell, I'm also a mongrel breed, can't be arsed going into detail on exactly what. Sorry you don't like the site, many of us do, although I would like to think that if there was racism here, it would be dealt with appropriately. So feel free to leave, other wise welcome, lets start talking about motorcycles. :calm:

Fatjim
24th November 2007, 18:20
I didn't realize there was anybody on this site that wasn't white.

Also, you DRIVE a beemer, which means I only notice you while your slowing me down.

Grahameeboy
24th November 2007, 18:28
I didn't realize there was anybody on this site that wasn't white.

Also, you DRIVE a beemer, which means I only notice you while your slowing me down.

Ironically BMW = Black Mans Wheels...........just a London thing at a time when BMW's were popular with Black guys........cars not bikes of course

sinned
24th November 2007, 20:28
I'm thinking of going Gay for one of these:
<img src=http://thekneeslider.com/images/hondacb1100f.jpg>

That model will be even harder to find than a racist on KB.

HTFU
24th November 2007, 20:47
If this site was run by racists and based in the Southern States of the US what would the "K B" stand for ? :dodge:

gijoe1313
24th November 2007, 21:07
If this site was run by racists and based in the Southern States of the US what would the "K B" stand for ? :dodge:

Kike Biatches with a side slapper of Dago and Wop? How about some Paki and Chink mixed in with the Nigga and Euro-slut trash! :shit: No flies on this homie! The jews and those Polacks need to be gassed along with the muddafuggin dicktard USA (Ultimate Stupid Ar*eh*les), those Frogs and Ragheads with the Pajama wearing fratboys can also take a flying faceplant in a pile of Afrikaan turd!

And don't mention the Jocks, Geordies and Micks that are infesting our shores! Sheese!

Now before people say "That gijoe1313 is a paragon of bigotry and poo-mouth sayings"

check this out!

http://www.rsdb.org/ :gob:

HTFU
24th November 2007, 21:14
Kike Biatches with a side slapper of Dago and Wop?

Nope, bro what is it you teach?

Bren
24th November 2007, 21:21
Bloody hell, whats this place coming too....racist slurs all over the place.....I might post a pathetic post sayin im sick of racial slurs.....nah,,,,dont think I will....shit its too much fun reading what some other sucker is postin bout racial slurs......That just made my day Nigga!

Oh, I can be racist as I have a jappa sister in law and 2 jappa niece/nephews , a tongan brother in law and a couple of maori nieces....our family is one big melting pot, and my kids being the honkies are the minority!

McJim
24th November 2007, 21:31
Well I'm not a racist at least....I'm a xenophobe so you can all just go and take a flying fuck to yersel's!

Culloden was all your fault!

:rofl:

skidMark
24th November 2007, 21:37
oh dear. Another forum/net noob who thinks he has grasped the thoughts of thousands by reading a few select posts.


whatzat.....???? the guy with a what 18kish bike? cant get away from a 3k spraycan paint zxr.....

i thought u were better than that spanky lol

Kittyhawk
24th November 2007, 22:15
I AM racist....get over it...

What do I hate?

Onions, pitbulls, and people who think they are up themselfs...we are all human and have the same bodily functions.

gijoe1313
24th November 2007, 23:04
Nope, bro what is it you teach?

I ain't your bro, jiggaboo! :lol: I be preaching the twin gospel of hate and intolerance to your less than human man!

I long for the days of burnings at the stake, the heady hedonistic release of emotions via an old fashioned pitchfork and torch crowd!

Yea, mote it be!

Let the foundations of ignorance, crass malevolence and violence enshrine our mis-enlightened souls!

So shall it be, KB! :shifty:

* Note that pisstaking and jocular quips bandied here can still be taken the wrong way even with asides and qualification!

** Didn't some of your ancestors call mine a slant-eyed chink, chinese japanese you wear nappies? :lol:

gijoe1313
24th November 2007, 23:07
Well I'm not a racist at least....I'm a xenophobe so you can all just go and take a flying fuck to yersel's!

Culloden was all your fault!

:rofl:

A fluffy duck? Heavens to betsy! Sugar Honey Ice Tea! And in regards to Culloden, izzat where the word cull came from? :scratch: We all know the only good Scots is one thrown off a sea facing cliff! (oh...waitaminute, thats a Scotch on the rocks)

fredie
24th November 2007, 23:16
yes i agree with phil . we aussies cant take the racsist comments from kiwis anymore:spanking::beer::lol:

westie
25th November 2007, 01:14
Gotta behave myself. lol

westie
25th November 2007, 01:22
I AM racist....get over it...
...we are all human and have the same bodily functions.

Sweet as I'm done...ah same?

Skyryder
25th November 2007, 06:29
I don't race on the track............I'm not a racist.

Skyryder

Dafe
25th November 2007, 06:47
Another one of Phil's Politically Correct posts. :Pokey:

The Lone Rider
25th November 2007, 09:41
never read anything close to racism

I have seen several posts with asian bashing, and black bashing.

Colapop
25th November 2007, 09:47
i BASH EVERYBODY EQUALLY

MSTRS
25th November 2007, 11:58
I have seen several posts with asian bashing, and black bashing.

Usually the ones where it is claimed a red Italian is the best bike....:lol:

oldrider
25th November 2007, 13:12
Goodbye Phil, please keep moving, don't turn around, hope you find a life somewhere. :weird: Anywhere but here! :oi-grr: Cheers John.

janno
25th November 2007, 14:17
i BASH EVERYBODY EQUALLY

I've had a Colapop bash - it was nice and huggy :grouphug:. . .

Headbanger
25th November 2007, 14:19
If everyone reading this thread who feels even slightly insulted by this judgmental pole smoker went and gave him negative bling surely we could set some sort of record?

Currently he has been awarded 6 bits of green for that post, Must have been labour voters.

SpeedyGirl
25th November 2007, 14:20
i BASH EVERYBODY EQUALLY


I've had a Colapop bash - it was nice and huggy :grouphug:. . .


Where's mine Col?????:angry2: I want that kinda white boy lovin:crazy:

pzkpfw
25th November 2007, 14:50
Currently he has been awarded 6 bits of green for that post, Must have been labour voters.

Bloody Aussies.

scracha
25th November 2007, 15:21
I have seen several posts with asian bashing, and black bashing.

And I've seen several posts with Scottish, Irish, Australian, ginger, male and female bashing. What's your point?

Myself, I prefer ripping the pish out of the yokels...aka. Kiwi bashing.

McJim
25th November 2007, 16:18
Usually the ones where it is claimed a red Italian is the best bike....:lol:

Whaddya mean 'claimed'? That's a fact that is! :rofl:

Zuki Bandit
25th November 2007, 16:19
Racism? There aint no god damn cotton picikin racism on ere mate!:nono:

Colapop
25th November 2007, 16:37
Where's mine Col?????:angry2: I want that kinda white boy lovin:crazy:
You know I gots the loving for you Queenie... :hug:

mynameis
25th November 2007, 17:58
Looks like Mr Phil W the digger has gone into hibernation. :whistle: Doo bee doo bee dooo..

Lollies..typical aye.

davereid
25th November 2007, 18:56
Who cares ?

Real life is racist.
Its also sexist.
Fat chicks lose, so do fat bald men.

The japs eat whales. We think they are special. We eat beef. The indians think they are special.

Boo Hoo.

Ian Smith said The Right Hon. Mr. Mugabe was a monkey who would destroy his country.

Maybe he was right. Or maybe he was just being horrible to monkeys.

ElCoyote
25th November 2007, 19:15
I'm thinking of going Gay for one of these:
<img src=http://thekneeslider.com/images/hondacb1100f.jpg>

If you're thinking, you probably already are:whocares:

dogsnbikes
25th November 2007, 19:17
Looks like Mr Phil W the digger has gone into hibernation.
.

he must work for the council :laugh:

Watch it guys he's the parking warden:Police::bleh:

Mom
25th November 2007, 19:24
Usually the ones where it is claimed a red Italian is the best bike....:lol:

Just read your post again. Thought you said Red Indian!..........man, now that is racist! Where I originate we would call them Inuit!

Are we there yet?

Phil has left the house :crybaby:

smoky
25th November 2007, 19:51
Racism on KB – of course there is, just like in any community you get a cross section of people.

It does piss me off every now and then – most of it is passive, the perpetrator is to stupid or ignorant to realise they’re being offensive, a bit like poor ol’ Don Brash.

But there’s plenty of good stuff to read and join in with – and most of the people I’ve met outweigh the dickheads

fredie
25th November 2007, 21:56
i am racsist towards dickhead moron driving:oi-grr:and cops that make up storys:Police:<_<

martybabe
25th November 2007, 22:11
:scratch::scratch:THIS BLOODY THREAD HAS BEEN GOIN ON SO LONG I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I BLOODY HATE ANYMORE. serious topic though.:banana::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::kick::spud bn:

imdying
26th November 2007, 07:27
If everyone reading this thread who feels even slightly insulted by this judgmental pole smoker went and gave him negative bling surely we could set some sort of record?

Currently he has been awarded 6 bits of green for that post, Must have been labour voters.

8 reds so far, muwhahahahah :devil2:

Crisis management
26th November 2007, 07:49
Well I'm not a racist at least....I'm a xenophobe so you can all just go and take a flying fuck to yersel's!

Culloden was all your fault!

:rofl:

Fuck off Jimmy, we frasers were on your side that time! :Pokey:


(can't say the same for some other minor incidents tho)

MSTRS
26th November 2007, 07:50
Just read your post again. Thought you said Red Indian!..........man, now that is racist! Where I originate we would call them Inuit!
Are we there yet?


How did we get to Burt's ol'banger?? Now, that was a bike that was raciest...

nodrog
26th November 2007, 07:58
i'm not a racist, i even own a colour TV.

SimJen
26th November 2007, 08:19
Racism on KB, can't say I've ever seen it?? I've seen the odd witty banter!
I'm definately not a racist, in fact I just dislike some people! Like the little scrote that keeps doing skids down the road from me (leaving diesel on the road).
Your allowed to like/dislike its a free world, wether it be races, sexual orientation or ginga's!

PuppetMaster
26th November 2007, 08:41
:scratch::scratch:THIS BLOODY THREAD HAS BEEN GOIN ON SO LONG I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I BLOODY HATE ANYMORE


I think it was this man.....

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/MPs/MPs/7/3/3/48MP30691-Bradford-Sue.htm

.

DMNTD
26th November 2007, 08:45
Well I've got a Samoan kid,couple of Maori kids and a couple of Honky kids...and my bike has White Power suspension :doh:

Krusti
26th November 2007, 08:49
Well I've got a Samoan kid,couple of Maori kids and a couple of Honky kids...and my bike has White Power suspension :doh:
And does that suspension work? :clap:

BarBender
26th November 2007, 08:51
Well I've got a Samoan kid,couple of Maori kids and a couple of Honky kids...and my bike has White Power suspension :doh:

I got me a white woman! Farken Mandingo strikes again!

DMNTD
26th November 2007, 08:53
And does that suspension work? :clap:
Unlike me...yes :niceone:



I got me a white woman!
Good man...what did they say about a big melting pot?

Usarka
26th November 2007, 08:55
Good man...what did they say about big melting pot?

ummm, heat the knives up really hot first?

DMNTD
26th November 2007, 08:56
ummm, heat the knives up really hot first?

...and don't use mum's ivory handled knives :pinch:

BarBender
26th November 2007, 09:00
Unlike me...yes :niceone:



Good man...what did they say about a big melting pot?

Big enough to take the world and all its got.

Storm
26th November 2007, 10:00
Reminds me of a poem I saw written by an african kid

When I born, I black
when I grow up I black
when I go in sun, I black
when I scared , I black
when I sick, I black
and when I die, I still black

And you white fellow
when you born, you pink
when you grow up , you white
when you go in sun, you red
when you cold, you blue
when you scared, you yellow
when you sick, you green
and when you die, you grey

And you calling ME coloured?

deeknow
26th November 2007, 21:06
"itchy trigger finger niggers"

Jesus, Human Traffic was such a GREAT movie

Usarka
26th November 2007, 21:10
Jesus, Human Traffic was such a GREAT movie

meh just seemed like i was looking at old home movies...... :wacko:

McJim
26th November 2007, 21:12
Cool - this thread lives! There are some great Racists on KB....White trash and his bros are great at racing...Shaun Harris is a legend at racing....Kickaha races too...KB is full of great racists....We should be proud o' them all.

Bren
26th November 2007, 21:19
The bottom line is racisim is about being different....i love being different (but not in a tutti-fruity way)

Im different to everybody, there is only one like me (and thank fuck for that cos I couldnt handle another asshole like me!)

Finn
26th November 2007, 21:21
there is only one like me

Pity it's not like this with the Maoris. :cool:

Usarka
26th November 2007, 21:22
Who would fix the roads :whistle:

AllanB
26th November 2007, 21:24
Classic thread, truely classic

Finn
26th November 2007, 21:24
Who would fix the roads :whistle:

The Islanders, just like they've always done. They work hard too.

mdooher
26th November 2007, 21:32
Don't know what he is on about either... as long as he isn't a spic, niger, wop, daigo, bong, jungle bunny, pom, yarpie, nargie, nip, towel head, yank, coon, cager, fudge packer, solo mum, white trash, black scum, or one of those biker trash he has nothing to worry about

Disco Dan
26th November 2007, 21:53
Don't know what he is on about either... as long as he isn't a spic, niger, wop, daigo, bong, jungle bunny, pom, yarpie, nargie, nip, towel head, yank, coon, cager, fudge packer, solo mum, white trash, black scum, or one of those biker trash he has nothing to worry about

You forgot GINGERS ! :laugh:

Bren
26th November 2007, 22:12
me, im positively 100% REDNECK

martybabe
26th November 2007, 22:13
You forgot GINGERS ! :laugh:


:laugh: Disco mate, your often to be found waggin a finger at dem gingers,bad experience with a strawberry blonde perchance? my son says carrots smell of wee,must correct him sometime.:laugh:

98tls
26th November 2007, 22:16
me, im positively 100% REDNECK :2guns:bullshit,i can read ya posts.

avgas
26th November 2007, 22:24
Since when weren't Honda's fair game?
:spanking:
I go for 2 weeks and come back to this shit.....
Oh wait hang on - how many pakeha's do we have here......same shit different colour

Boob Johnson
26th November 2007, 23:21
Q: Why are there no Maori's on Star Trek?









A: Cause they don't work in the future either :laugh:











We'll miss ya Phil :violin:

Hillbilly
27th November 2007, 02:51
Let's see, I'm part Abbo, and I can't remember any racist posts.

Hillbilly
27th November 2007, 02:53
Q: Why are there no Maori's on Star Trek?

A: Cause they don't work in the future either :laugh:

We'll miss ya Phil :violin:

Thats as bad as:

Q: Why don't you offer Aborigines a tip?


A: 'Cos better housing doesn't interest them!

martybabe
27th November 2007, 06:34
Don't know what he is on about either... as long as he isn't a spic, niger, wop, daigo, bong, jungle bunny, pom, yarpie, nargie, nip, towel head, yank, coon, cager, fudge packer, solo mum, white trash, black scum, or one of those biker trash he has nothing to worry about

:yes: He He,good list mate I couldn't have thought of that many breeds o mankind,yeah stick it to em,:gob: Eh hang on,it says poms in that list, what the feck :bash:Your all racist pigs on KB, I'm gonna start a racism thread then piss orf on me holidays whilst ya spit and cuss at each other for weeks. Oh hang on think some tossers already donit init.
What about nicaraguans eh, ginger nicaraguans,we all laugh at em slappin each others chubbys on breakfast tv every mornin but would you want em livin in your street?:nono:
Long live KB, you couldn't write this stuff in the uk,the thought police would pop a cap in your arse.:2thumbsup:chase: :Police:

MSTRS
27th November 2007, 08:27
I suppose coconuts are ok then?

SpankMe
27th November 2007, 08:46
Q: Why are there no Maori's on Star Trek?

A: Cause they don't work in the future either :laugh:

They worked in the past thou, albeit as a clone army for the empire.

Usarka
27th November 2007, 08:52
That was a long time ago......


They're still sorting out the treaty claims.

imdying
27th November 2007, 09:24
Don't know what he is on about either... as long as he isn't a spic, niger, wop, daigo, bong, jungle bunny, pom, yarpie, nargie, nip, towel head, yank, coon, cager, fudge packer, solo mum, white trash, black scum, or one of those biker trash he has nothing to worry about

You missed kike (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kike).

Al
27th November 2007, 09:57
Only advice suitable is from our old mate, Chopper: "HARDEN THE F&*K UP"

Al

Fatjim
27th November 2007, 14:14
Has anybody mentioned that wealth of info http://www.rsdb.org/

Bren
27th November 2007, 14:37
Has anybody mentioned that wealth of info http://www.rsdb.org/


i believe it has been mentioned...some good ones in there....but I like to keep things simple....so they will always be gooks, nips, niggas etc to me...

Tank
27th November 2007, 15:46
Has anybody mentioned that wealth of info http://www.rsdb.org/

FatJim - thanks so much for the link.

There were dozens of perfectly good racial insults there that I had never even seen before.

Im heading down to South Auckland tonight (not on MY bike obviously) to try them out - and if any of those coconut / nig-nogs have a problem with it Ill be sure to give them Phils Ws number.

Boob Johnson
27th November 2007, 17:39
Only advice suitable is from our old mate, Chopper: "HARDEN THE F&*K UP"

Al
And for those that haven't seen "Chopper Reid"


For your viewing pleasure....



Hard the fuck up Phil W :bleh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

Lias
27th November 2007, 18:46
I fucking hate Spics, Dotheads, Honkeys, Japs, Wops, Kikes, Wetbacks, Gooks, Chinks, Camel Jockeys, and The French...

BUT I LOVE NIGGERS!

Me thinks the OP would shit a brick at Tshirt hell lol.

terbang
23rd March 2008, 01:24
Niggers niggers niggers :D :rofl:

Racism is the highest form of ignorance. Dress it up how you wish with a little humour, but it still just boils down to ignorance. Real easy to sit behind yer keyboard there mr tough guy on a motorcycle forum. however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?

98tls
23rd March 2008, 01:36
Racism is the highest form of ignorance. Dress it up how you wish with a little humour, but it still just boils down to ignorance. Real easy to sit behind yer keyboard there mr tough guy on a motorcycle forum. however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?

Racism=ignorance well fuck me ive read some shit on here but thats the winner,get off your daughter and wise up.Ask whoever you got to post up that shit to read it back to you and take a week or two to work it out.

terbang
23rd March 2008, 01:43
And the next form of ignorance...


Racism=ignorance well fuck me ive read some shit on here but thats the winner,get off your daughter and wise up.Ask whoever you got to post up that shit to read it back to you and take a week or two to work it out.

98tls
23rd March 2008, 01:55
And the next form of ignorance... Predictable has nothing on you,although your good for a chuckle as the keyboard will never hide the fact that you really believe that shit.

terbang
23rd March 2008, 02:13
as the keyboard will never hide the fact that you really believe that shit. UH..? Chuckle..!
Ignorance and poor literacy go hand in hand perhaps.

Yup, real predictable when it comes to racial comments, for many reasons, I hate it. Just as Lias is on the other end of the spectrum. But he puts up a fair debate, and thats good too. So what were you trying to say? Or were you just snarling for the sake of it? Some do I guess.?
I wasn't hiding behind any keyboard, I was blatantly, in your faces telling this forum my views about the ignorance of racism. Clearly different to yours but just something I must have gathered from a few years as an expatriot, thats all.
So whats your point, your view and reasoning (If you can say so sensibly without all the vitriol) as to why racism could not be seen as ignorance? You need to balance all your previous diatribe with some sort of reasoning. If you are capable of putting up a reasoned arguement, then I'm interested to hear...

scorpious
24th March 2008, 12:33
Racism is the highest form of ignorance. Dress it up how you wish with a little humour, but it still just boils down to ignorance. Real easy to sit behind yer keyboard there mr tough guy on a motorcycle forum. however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?

and I think I know a guy who needs to read a light joke and get over it:argue:

Quasievil
24th March 2008, 12:59
:jerry::jerry::jerry:


nice thread.


I hate racists for the record especially if they ride Hondas

Toaster
24th March 2008, 13:06
"Racist" is a badly misused term. We are all one race.... the human race.

There are no 'races' within that. Merely different nationalities and cultures separated initially by geography and inherent isolation pre modern travel. The genetic variance in DNA between e.g. black vs white people is nearly nothing.

Edbear
24th March 2008, 13:11
"Racist" is a badly misused term. We are all one race.... the human race...

I bags coming last...:yeah:

Skyryder
24th March 2008, 14:56
So who has never laughed at an Irish joke?


Humour puts someone or something down that's what we laugh at.


Skyryder

McJim
24th March 2008, 15:11
"Racist" is a badly misused term. We are all one race.... the human race.

There are no 'races' within that. Merely different nationalities and cultures separated initially by geography and inherent isolation pre modern travel. The genetic variance in DNA between e.g. black vs white people is nearly nothing.

We could get speciest then...there's only 1% diference between us and chimpanzees for example...In fact we share more than 70% of our DNA with (wait for it) Watermelons (thought that would show you some context)

Funny to see this thread dredged out of the depths and the dust blown off.

SixPackBack
24th March 2008, 15:17
We could get speciest then...there's only 1% diference between us and chimpanzees for example...In fact we share more than 70% of our DNA with (wait for it) Watermelons (thought that would show you some context)

Funny to see this thread dredged out of the depths and the dust blown off.


It could be said Dipshit, scorpious and skidmark [for instant] have at the most a single functioning neuron each, and hence share significantly more DNA with said watermelon.

Conquiztador
24th March 2008, 15:36
Any good reason why this one is not in PD??????

roadracingoldfart
24th March 2008, 19:24
So does that mean that when the lazy little apprentice at work calls me "white trash" then its wrong for me to answer him with "what did you say brown boy"?.
:msn-wink: :niceone:

Finn
24th March 2008, 19:36
"Racist" is a badly misused term. We are all one race.... the human race.

There are no 'races' within that. Merely different nationalities and cultures separated initially by geography and inherent isolation pre modern travel. The genetic variance in DNA between e.g. black vs white people is nearly nothing.

You should write speeches for Miss World.

Finn
24th March 2008, 19:40
however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?

Yeah, sand niggers can get really nasty.

Usarka
24th March 2008, 19:43
kbs full of it


there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.

325rocket
24th March 2008, 19:57
Yeah, sand niggers can get really nasty.

hey i take offence to that!!! im part Lebanese …

...we prefer camel jockey

Mikkel
24th March 2008, 20:03
Racism is good for two things:

1. Exposing idiots.
2. Ethnic african humour (black is derogatory remember...)

Institutionalised racism as has been seen in some places is a very scary thing though.


Racism is the highest form of ignorance. Dress it up how you wish with a little humour, but it still just boils down to ignorance. Real easy to sit behind yer keyboard there mr tough guy on a motorcycle forum. however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?

For what it is worth I can assure you imdying is not a racist. He does not discriminate - he hates all people equally. :yes:
That's at least what he has said to me. He's a good fella btw.

Jantar
24th March 2008, 20:06
Any good reason why this one is not in PD??????
Yes there is. Racism is a valid concern for many people, so the thread stays. Maybe we have been overly lenient on some of the posts, so I'll look into that part.

terbang
24th March 2008, 21:39
There are some symbols that have emerged over time to represent various things. Some good and some not so good. For instance the Swastika or hooked cross of Nazi germany needs no real explanaition of what it stood for. Just as the term Nigger or Kaffir are verbal representations used on people who were opressed/discriminated upon throughout our recent hostory. They are symbols of something that we have moved on from. Whether it be used (disguised) with jest or whatever, they are symbols/words that the world just doesn't tolerate anymore. People can fiddle with technical and literal terms of race, but we all know what racism is about, something that has happened in the past and still happens today. Even In our own country.
My Brother (through adoption) is Maori, has definatly been on the recieving end of it and I have also worked as an expatriot for quite a few years now. So I have seen it and also been on the recieving end of it too. Its very ugly indeed. So do I think racism (the generally accepted term) is ignorance. You betcha..! And I challenge anyone to try to convince me that it could be a form of enlightenment (as one angry contributer here has hinted). For what its worth, I have seen just as many knuckle draggers in my own country (NZ) as in the third world. So, in my view, jumping on to this forum, one about racism or any other and just blatantly typing Nigger, mildly disguised with black humour, (though many a true word said in jest) is not an acceptable form of debate or humour.

Mikkel
24th March 2008, 22:04
There are some symbols that have emerged over time to represent various things. Some good and some not so good. For instance the Swastika or hooked cross of Nazi germany needs no real explanaition of what it stood for.

Actually the swastika needs a real explanations since it is originally a hiduistic symbol for sun (IIRC). As such it is a symbol that has a different original meaning than what most people place upon the symbol.

Just because some guy called Adolf thought it looked mighty cool and used it as his trademark doesn't mean that a symbol that has been around for thousands of years should be banned or restricted.

Ultimately, since it is impossible to ban idiocy - racism is here to stay. Banning and/or criminalising is not going to make the problem go away or become less of a problem. But I guess once the thought police has embedded microchips in all of our brains we might get rid of it - I *so* looking forward to that.

Skyryder
24th March 2008, 22:32
Actually the swastika needs a real explanations since it is originally a hiduistic symbol for sun (IIRC). As such it is a symbol that has a different original meaning than what most people place upon the symbol.

Just because some guy called Adolf thought it looked mighty cool and used it as his trademark doesn't mean that a symbol that has been around for thousands of years should be banned or restricted.

Ultimately, since it is impossible to ban idiocy - racism is here to stay. Banning and/or criminalising is not going to make the problem go away or become less of a problem. But I guess once the thought police has embedded microchips in all of our brains we might get rid of it - I *so* looking forward to that.

I take your point on symbalism but like words whose meaning change over time so do the image that a symbal portrays. Try telling a Jew that the swastika is a benign image that is found in Bhuddist images or for than matter a Frenchman who can remember the German occupation.

In actual fact there are two types of swastikas both having their arms in opposite directions. Portrayed together the meaning is of good and evil. Goebbels I think it was Goebbels, picked the swastika that represents evil. sorta right choice.


The first racist joke was about Neanderthalls or perhaps it was about homo sapiens. I should make one up but since the emergence of this thread I have decided that the neanderthall species is no longer extinct and some one might red rep me.:girlfight:

Skyryder

EFFBEE
24th March 2008, 22:39
I am the last to support the cause of political correctness - but there are a lot of people still alive today who stopped swastika brandishing nasties like Adolph from gaining world domination at great personal expense. I think we should respect these people and cast the swastika into the filing cabinet for another few decades. Also I reckon religious bigots are worse than ( or often are) racists. Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Hindu bigots are all the same - just different colours!

Mikkel
24th March 2008, 22:58
I take your point on symbalism but like words whose meaning change over time so do the image that a symbal portrays. Try telling a Jew that the swastika is a benign image that is found in Bhuddist images or for than matter a Frenchman who can remember the German occupation.

Or a german national who isn't too proud of the achievements made by the national socialistic labour party...

terbang
24th March 2008, 23:38
Actually the swastika needs a real explanations since it is originally a hiduistic symbol for sun (IIRC). As such it is a symbol that has a different original meaning than what most people place upon the symbol.

Just because some guy called Adolf thought it looked mighty cool and used it as his trademark doesn't mean that a symbol that has been around for thousands of years should be banned or restricted.

Ultimately, since it is impossible to ban idiocy - racism is here to stay. Banning and/or criminalising is not going to make the problem go away or become less of a problem. But I guess once the thought police has embedded microchips in all of our brains we might get rid of it - I *so* looking forward to that.

We can all twist things how we like I guess and yes the hooked cross has been around for ages. Everybody knows that. Why do they know it? Because as I said, in our recent history (and memories), it has come to symbolise something that happened of a very very bad nature. Nazi Germany. Walk down the main drag of most cities on NZ wearing one on your arm or waving a flag bearing a swastica on it and I'm sure you will feel the love..! Also try telling otherwise to those who fought for the freedom we enjoy to be able to debate such here today. And yes it is still banned in some parts of Europe.
Such a defeatist attitude you have there. Of course we can make change by having our say and by not condoning things that we don't like, disagree with or percieve as evil. Don't forget, we actually do have that freedom here in NZ. Sheesh, Im glad our WW2 soldiers (including my old man) didn't show such apathy.

revvinkevin
25th March 2008, 09:32
Do you know what makes me laugh..................racism is the least of the issues here. In his first few sentences Phil says he's off.:scooter:

The next few posts are basically saying goodbye and good riddance to the man.:bye:

Hello........................he's gone.:whocares:

13 pages of responses to a bloke who won't read the posts.:confused:

Maybe he should have targeted gross stupidity as an issue:done:


:yawn::yawn::yawn:

Mikkel
25th March 2008, 10:26
Such a defeatist attitude you have there. Of course we can make change by having our say and by not condoning things that we don't like, disagree with or percieve as evil. Don't forget, we actually do have that freedom here in NZ. Sheesh, Im glad our WW2 soldiers (including my old man) didn't show such apathy.

No mate, not defeatist - just realistic.

While I neither support nor condone racism or any other kind of discrimination I accept that some people will use their freedom of speech and thought to express such sentiments. And I accept that people expressing such sentiments will nearly always be very vocal - and if they aren't there will be someone who takes great offense and in that way help them get the airtime that they crave.

I can not remember who said this originally - but it goes something like: "While I may not agree with what you say, I would still sacrifice my life to ensure your right to say it!" Freedom is the only thing in this world that holds any real value! And freedom was not won in the WW2 - we might have defended it, but freedom was won by the people who instated public education, newspapers, the printing press and all sorts of other non-violent achievements. Sadly these achievements are not being utilised to their full effect these days. And in some places they have been turned into devices for indoctrination allowing goverments to slowly but surely to take our rights and freedoms away from us. The most scary thing is we're begging them to do it...

Teflon
25th March 2008, 20:24
Maybe there is. I don't blame them..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEyT1B7lXzM&feature=related

Take a look around, all these shit skins impregnating their woman.. it's fucking up the white gene pool..

scorpious
30th March 2008, 16:30
these two comments should put an end to this dicussion,


99% of the time its all in good fun...


and for that last 1%,

originally posted by chopper:
"HARDEN THE F&*K UP"

oldrider
30th March 2008, 21:30
Racism can not harm you :oi-grr: unless you yourself, authorize it to do do so! :yes:

Age old nursery rhyme: "Sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me" :shifty:

Eagles song "Get over it" :headbang: probably says it best! :niceone: John.

Steam
30th March 2008, 21:33
Racism can not harm you unless you yourself, authorize it to do do so!

Age old nursery rhyme: "Sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me"

John.

You mean here on KB, or out in the real world?

James Deuce
30th March 2008, 21:47
Hey! Look who woke up from his absinthe coma!

Mikkel
30th March 2008, 22:04
Racism can not harm you :oi-grr: unless you yourself, authorize it to do do so! :yes:

Age old nursery rhyme: "Sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me" :shifty:

Eagles song "Get over it" :headbang: probably says it best! :niceone: John.

I'm sure that the afro-american man burning on a cross in Mississippi will be fucking gutted that he authorised that ordeal...

Or, perhaps that wasn't what you meant?

Steam
30th March 2008, 22:10
I'm sure that the afro-american man burning on a cross in Mississippi will be fucking gutted that he authorised that ordeal...

Or, perhaps that wasn't what you meant?

I think he was talking about just here on KB, where nothing is exchanged but words. He's an Old Rider, but he's not that senile yet.

DEATH_INC.
30th March 2008, 22:12
We just dont like Gingers.
Get bent!!! :bleh:

Mikkel
30th March 2008, 22:27
I think he was talking about just here on KB, where nothing is exchanged but words. He's an Old Rider, but he's not that senile yet.

Well, it seems that more than words are exchanged in relation to this forum.

John didn't specify that he only meant on KB anyway...

But yes, I did take it beyond reason to provoke.

In a sense I agree with his post - we actively choose to be offended when we get offended. :yes:

98tls
30th March 2008, 22:27
We can all twist things how we like I guess and yes the hooked cross has been around for ages. Everybody knows that. Why do they know it? Because as I said, in our recent history (and memories), it has come to symbolise something that happened of a very very bad nature. Nazi Germany. Walk down the main drag of most cities on NZ wearing one on your arm or waving a flag bearing a swastica on it and I'm sure you will feel the love..! Also try telling otherwise to those who fought for the freedom we enjoy to be able to debate such here today. And yes it is still banned in some parts of Europe.
Such a defeatist attitude you have there. Of course we can make change by having our say and by not condoning things that we don't like, disagree with or percieve as evil. Don't forget, we actually do have that freedom here in NZ. Sheesh, Im glad our WW2 soldiers (including my old man) didn't show such apathy. I always find it strange theres so much focus on the "hooked cross" as you guys term it,its true origins ive yet to see posted correctly in this thread but yet far worse crimes against humanity commited only years earlier with a just as recognisable flag seem to go unnoticed/unmentioned.Speaking of those that gave the ultimate sacrifice i imagine if by the snap of a finger we could bring them back for a day no matter what there origins they would shake there heads in disbelief and return to the void.

98tls
30th March 2008, 22:30
I'm sure that the afro-american man burning on a cross in Mississippi will be fucking gutted that he authorised that ordeal...

Or, perhaps that wasn't what you meant? Knowing him as i do i can assure you your wrong.

Steam
30th March 2008, 22:35
... but yet far worse crimes against humanity commited only years earlier with a just as recognisable flag seem to go unnoticed/unmentioned.
You mean the civil war in Russia? About fifteen million people died in that. It's amazing nobody knows about it these days.

Mikkel
30th March 2008, 22:49
Knowing him as i do i can assure you your wrong.

Who, the guy in Mississippi? I thought there was more than one... :crazy:

And yes, I did it again...

98tls
30th March 2008, 23:18
You mean the civil war in Russia? About fifteen million people died in that. It's amazing nobody knows about it these days. Civil war in Russia? Numbers are right but it wasnt a civil war.If you read Hitlers rantings aside from insanity a case can be made for his actions,i cannot however find anything but insanity to describe Stalins.

98tls
30th March 2008, 23:38
Who, the guy in Mississippi? I thought there was more than one... :crazy:

And yes, I did it again...
Turn the TV off and pull the curtains back,while your at it turn your baseball cap round the other way..........as much as you would like to think so this is not Algeria and you are not or never will be a Legionnaire

Mekk
31st March 2008, 01:10
Most racism is caused by misunderstanding. Most of the offence caused by it is also misunderstanding.

scorpious
31st March 2008, 08:40
You mean the civil war in Russia? About fifteen million people died in that. It's amazing nobody knows about it these days.

There was a civil war in russia?

Usarka
31st March 2008, 08:42
i saw an advert on the telly that told me that african americans are superior at sport because of their genes. and if non-african americans want to be good like them they should buy some ??? brand clothes......

Mikkel
31st March 2008, 11:29
Turn the TV off and pull the curtains back,while your at it turn your baseball cap round the other way..........as much as you would like to think so this is not Algeria and you are not or never will be a Legionnaire

Who needs a TV when you've got a computer? I think I spend perhaps 2 hours at the telly a week...

Curtains are rarely drawn at our house.

I don't own a baseball cap and haven't worn one for more than 15 years.

Thank god about the Algeria thing, I was starting to get worried. And no, I would never want to be a legionnaire - they speak french for starters...

Now if you will allow me one question - what was your post about? I sure as hell didn't get it...

Finn
31st March 2008, 11:55
Racism and stereotypes are no laughing matter.

Ixion
31st March 2008, 12:47
Civil war in Russia? Numbers are right but it wasnt a civil war.If you read Hitlers rantings aside from insanity a case can be made for his actions,i cannot however find anything but insanity to describe Stalins.


Well, the Reds certainly called it a civil war. Officially , "Civil War and Military Intervention of 1917-1922".

I guess the Cossacks and Poles probably would have called it The War of Liberation or such like. Except that they lost, so they were all killed and didn't get to call it anything.

Stalin wasn't a player, Lenin and Trotsky back then. And Generals Denekin and Alexseev on the White side (and Yudenich later, in Estonia) And, I guess, in theory, the Tsar.

15 million is the generally accepted figure for total deaths (pogroms, purges, battles, starvation, disease)

idb
31st March 2008, 14:10
How civil can a war be?
"Excuse me"...*BANG*!!!!

oldrider
31st March 2008, 14:36
I'm sure that the afro-american man burning on a cross in Mississippi will be fucking gutted that he authorised that ordeal...

Or, perhaps that wasn't what you meant?

The thread title says what I mean, reading posts on KB cant hurt you unless you allow it too! :oi-grr: John.

Finn
31st March 2008, 15:00
The thread title says what I mean, reading posts on KB cant hurt you unless you allow it too! :oi-grr: John.

Yeah, I'm white and proud!

scumdog
31st March 2008, 15:03
How civil can a war be?
"Excuse me"...*BANG*!!!!

That might it!

A lot of 'excuse me's' 'thank you's' and 'sorry's between the loud bangs and flying shrapnel and bullets thudding home.....

Coyote
31st March 2008, 15:05
Yeah, I'm white and proud!
B, b, but you're a white male? Aren't we the source of all evil? That's the impression I've got from Feminazi's and Ironically Racist Blacks :confused:

98tls
31st March 2008, 16:57
Well, the Reds certainly called it a civil war. Officially , "Civil War and Military Intervention of 1917-1922".

I guess the Cossacks and Poles probably would have called it The War of Liberation or such like. Except that they lost, so they were all killed and didn't get to call it anything.

Stalin wasn't a player, Lenin and Trotsky back then. And Generals Denekin and Alexseev on the White side (and Yudenich later, in Estonia) And, I guess, in theory, the Tsar.

15 million is the generally accepted figure for total deaths (pogroms, purges, battles, starvation, disease) Was actually meaning "the great terror" of the 30s,thousands of executions and millons sent off to the gulag labour camps which resulted in death anyway.Stalin saw it as ridding the party of enemies but it didnt help much when Hitler invaded.

James Deuce
31st March 2008, 17:13
15 Million deaths. 5 million Ukranians alone. Stalin wasn't his name, it was his party nickname. His real surname was Ossetian for Garbage.

2up3dom
31st March 2008, 17:34
Yeah, I'm white and proud!

yea me too sad to say i got the tramp stamp as well doesnt mean im racists to just everyone thats not white as i know some white people who could be classed as "niggas" we are al racist or biasd in our own way whether it be religion, race or creed or even style of bike we ride and class as a bike and not a scooter lol each to their own i say go forth and multiply

Rogue
31st March 2008, 17:42
Racist my arse :nono:

I say

NUKE THE GAY WHALES :innocent:

mstriumph
31st March 2008, 17:51
just think

this thread has been going on since november 2007 now and, despite all the queries and requests for clarification aimed at him the original poster, Phil W, hasn't posted another thing since ....................

it seems to me that THAT makes this a dummy-spit - devisive, spiteful and totally unspecific mud-slinging............ 'cause if it were intended to improve the site, or help explore and rectify what he percieves as wrong, he'd have hung around to explain his point of view

soooooooooooo - you don't need US Phil W??
well, guess what .... :lol:

- and, if you are still listening, it's nothing to do with the colour of your skin, what you ride or whether you are male, female or otherwisely-engaged ....

it's cause you are a coward,
unwilling to stand behind what you've dished out and be accountable for your twaddle.

you have a nice day now ;)

James Deuce
31st March 2008, 18:16
Obviously a Marxist-Leninist with Stalinist leanings. We should burn him!

Finn
31st March 2008, 19:17
Obviously a Marxist-Leninist with Stalinist leanings. We should burn him!

No, I think he was just a sooty.

imdying
1st April 2008, 11:18
Racism is the highest form of ignorance. Dress it up how you wish with a little humour, but it still just boils down to ignorance. Real easy to sit behind yer keyboard there mr tough guy on a motorcycle forum. however I know a few fellas in this part of the country who would take a keen interest in hearing you say that to their faces. Would you be up to it?Why, too pussy too take me on yourself :Pokey::rolleyes:


For what it is worth I can assure you imdying is not a racist. He does not discriminate - he hates all people equally. :yes:
That's at least what he has said to me. He's a good fella btw.Fuck yeah, just came back LA.... I've moved on from niggers, Mexicans are my new group that's cool to hate :rofl:

vifferman
1st April 2008, 11:24
No, I think he was just a sooty.
He would be after he was burned.

James Deuce
1st April 2008, 18:00
No, I think he was just a sooty.

That's funny because we've just got two new team leaders at work. One Indian, one of European extraction. I've been calling them Sooty & Sweep.

Conquiztador
1st April 2008, 19:50
In Sweden, my brother was working for the city cleaning the streets. They would also work at the ferry terminal and clean around at the terminal. A new guy that was black had just started with them. The ferries came from Finland and the new black guy was keen to make an impression on the Finnish girls.

So he asked my brother who speaks finnish to teach him something to say to the girls.

Sure, my brother said. Tell them that they are really nice looking in Finnish. Here, say this; "Taa ei ole valkosen miehen hommaa"

The black guy was really happy. When the next ferry came in he was sweeping the floor and said the sentence. The girls all laughed, and he was happy. It was working...

What he really was saying while sweeping the floor was: "This is not a job for a white man"...

Finn
1st April 2008, 21:41
In Sweden, my brother was working for the city cleaning the streets. They would also work at the ferry terminal and clean around at the terminal. A new guy that was black had just started with them. The ferries came from Finland and the new black guy was keen to make an impression on the Finnish girls.

So he asked my brother who speaks finnish to teach him something to say to the girls.

Sure, my brother said. Tell them that they are really nice looking in Finnish. Here, say this; "Taa ei ole valkosen miehen hommaa"

The black guy was really happy. When the next ferry came in he was sweeping the floor and said the sentence. The girls all laughed, and he was happy. It was working...

What he really was saying while sweeping the floor was: "This is not a job for a white man"...

There is no such thing as a good looking Finnish girl. They are like kiwi girls but with hair. Finland is the Ohio of Scandinavia.

However, socialism has turned Sweden into a new age Africa. It used to be a lovely place full of prosperity, now it's a melting pot of shit. Rampant crime, a failed social system and a fucked economy. Good one lefties.

scorpious
2nd April 2008, 17:34
In Sweden, my brother was working for the city cleaning the streets. They would also work at the ferry terminal and clean around at the terminal. A new guy that was black had just started with them. The ferries came from Finland and the new black guy was keen to make an impression on the Finnish girls.

So he asked my brother who speaks finnish to teach him something to say to the girls.

Sure, my brother said. Tell them that they are really nice looking in Finnish. Here, say this; "Taa ei ole valkosen miehen hommaa"

The black guy was really happy. When the next ferry came in he was sweeping the floor and said the sentence. The girls all laughed, and he was happy. It was working...

What he really was saying while sweeping the floor was: "This is not a job for a white man"...


hahahahahahaha :first:
I want to shake your brothers hand lol

alley cat
3rd April 2008, 08:48
Racisim is just another form of discrimination. If you can stand the heat etc.....
Its no worse than sexism or homophobia, and these are perfectly acceptable to entire countries.
What we all need is race pride.:headbang:

Str8 Jacket
3rd April 2008, 08:51
What we all need is race pride.:headbang:

Is that like Gay pride? Will there be a parade?

Finn
3rd April 2008, 08:54
Is that like Gay pride? Will there be a parade?

Or bitch pride? Go sister, go sister!!! :Punk:

alley cat
3rd April 2008, 09:00
Is that like Gay pride? Will there be a parade?

There bloody should be.
Its shouldnt be a dirty thing to say im white and proud.
Its no different to bein a proud maori, and they have mana so why dont we?

fire eyes
3rd April 2008, 09:01
:love: the loooooooove boat .. soon we'll be making another runnnnnnnnn .. the loooooove boat .. promises something .. for .. everyoneeeeeeeee

Mikkel
3rd April 2008, 09:10
What we all need is race pride.:headbang:

So yeah let's all put our hands together for the neo-nazis. :crazy:

Fuck off! Pride in what you are through no achievement of your own is BULLSHIT! Pride in what you do, what you choose and what you are because of that I can accept to some degree.

What is racism if NOT racial pride? What is religious fanatism if not religious pride? What is sexism if not pride in a certain way of sexual observance?

What we need is a small amount of respect and humility - that might actually get us somewhere.

That's my most respectful and humble opinion for what it is worth.

fire eyes
3rd April 2008, 09:23
:calm: Just some food for thought my fellow lovely Kiwi Bikers.

The Four Agreements

1. Be Impeccable With Your Word
Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

2. Don't Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering.

3. Don't Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

4. Always Do Your Best
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret.

ManDownUnder
3rd April 2008, 09:32
What is racism if NOT racial pride? What is religious fanatism if not religious pride? What is sexism if not pride in a certain way of sexual observance?

Not having a go - but I personally see a significant difference.

I see racism as derogatory, and exclusive, Putting someone up or giving them advantage based on race (i.e. excluding those potential benefits to others).

Racial pride - having pride in one's race) is an intrinsic thing - having a sense and understanding of your own history, and that of your race - the pool of people from which you come, and the culture you more than likely enjoy.

I see that pride as something to share for anyone so interested. If they're not then no problem. It's celebrating differences (GOD that sounds cheesy) rather than starting fights because of them

James Deuce
3rd April 2008, 09:53
That's not race MDU, that's culture you are describing.

MisterD
3rd April 2008, 09:55
That's not race MDU, that's culture you are describing.

S'right. I'm pretty much ambivalent about race, tribe is where it's at.

James Deuce
3rd April 2008, 09:56
I knew you Mods were tribal.

MisterD
3rd April 2008, 10:10
I knew you Mods were trouble.


:eek: Heh heh heh...

Mikkel
3rd April 2008, 10:13
The Four Agreements

1. Be Impeccable With Your Word

2. Don't Take Anything Personally

3. Don't Make Assumptions

4. Always Do Your Best


5. Don't do today what you can postpone until tomorrow.
5a. Exception: Why wait for the weekend - get drunk today!


Racial pride - having pride in one's race) is an intrinsic thing - having a sense and understanding of your own history, and that of your race - the pool of people from which you come, and the culture you more than likely enjoy.

History is what was done - real actions of consequence. There's a difference between a) taking a small amount of pride in the fact that your ancestors laid down their lives to ensure a principle such as freedom of speech or put their backs into building a rich society and b) saying "I'm and proud of it". Pride stems from a feeling of being superior - at least that is the only pride I have encountered so far. But hey, fuck me, I'm just a young and stupid foreigner...

ManDownUnder
3rd April 2008, 10:18
Pride stems from a feeling of being superior - at least that is the only pride I have encountered so far

OK - that's where we seem to differ. To me pride isn't a feeling of being superior, it's a feeling of internal strength and satisfaction. It doesn't mean I'm better than anyone else (that'd be "smug" in my books).

Looked it up and it sounds like you may referring to definition 2 below (interestingly it's one I don't ascribe to... hence my commentary above... which I will lay bare for completness' sake).

I'm more then #1, #3 and #4 (from www.dictionary.com)


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</OBJECT><NOSCRIPT minmax_bound="true"></NOSCRIPT> Audio Help (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/audio.html)/praʊd/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[proud]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciationadjective, -er, -est, adverb </P>–adjective <TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">1.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable to oneself (often fol. by of, an infinitive, or a clause). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">2.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">having, proceeding from, or showing a high opinion of one's own dignity, importance, or superiority. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">3.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">having or showing self-respect or self-esteem. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">4.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">highly gratifying to the feelings or self-esteem: It was a proud day for him when his son entered college. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">5.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">highly honorable or creditable: a proud achievement. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">6.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">stately, majestic, or magnificent: proud cities. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">7.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">of lofty dignity or distinction: a proud name; proud nobles. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">8.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">Chiefly South Midland and Southern U.S. pleased; happy: I'm proud to meet you. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">9.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">full of vigor and spirit: a proud young stallion. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent minmax_bound="true"><TBODY minmax_bound="true"><TR minmax_bound="true"><TD class=dn vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">10.</TD><TD vAlign=top minmax_bound="true">Obsolete. brave. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=brave) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

MisterD
3rd April 2008, 10:20
Pride stems from a feeling of being superior - at least that is the only pride I have encountered so far. But hey, fuck me, I'm just a young and stupid foreigner...

There's a lot of difference between "a feeling of being superior" and having the pride to be able to look any bugger in the eye and not feel that they are in any way better than you....

ManDownUnder
3rd April 2008, 10:20
That's not race MDU, that's culture you are describing.

Agreed, but culture is associated with/by a defined group. The group may be defined by race, employment, religious or other commonalities.

James Deuce
3rd April 2008, 10:26
Agreed, but culture is associated with/by a defined group. The group may be defined by race, employment, religious or other commonalities.
You're picking race as the major defining aspect. It's the least important. It's just a visual clue that increasingly leads to incorrect conclusions.