New paintjob suggestions for NC30 [Archive]

motorbyclist

12th December 2007, 17:06

So while bogging/fibreglassing my fairings today i realised i'm going to have to sand 80% of my fairings and repaint the whole thing

so i'm thinking of getting a different paintjob for the 89 vfr400r nc30

currently got "original" style
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/data/500/medium/DSCF0156.JPG
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=77417&d=1195641962

i'm thinking of painting her up "repsol"
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/2005-Honda-CBR1000RR-Repsol.jpg
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/RC211V.jpg

or maybe a bit easier/cheaper would be to do the new honda style
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2003%5C06%5C24%5Cbikepics-51797-800.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4126/redleftfrontfm6.jpg

http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/04RC51.jpg

got any suggestions/opinions?

i don't want a totally black bike as the last one i had was seemingly invisible to cagers, but maybe black with white wings would be good....

i could always go chrome:D
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/chromebike07.jpg
blinding the cagers that aren't already blind:laugh:

James Deuce

12th December 2007, 17:16

Get rid of the blue screen and keep it stock.

It's a classic if it's original.

Paint it and it's just another pair of tart's drawers.

imdying

12th December 2007, 17:28

With that particular model, I tend to agree.

motorbyclist

12th December 2007, 17:32

Get rid of the blue screen and keep it stock.

It's a classic if it's original.

Paint it and it's just another pair of tart's drawers.

oh yeah, i need a new screen; anyone know where i can buy them cheap?

i'm tempted to leave it original, but at the same time i'm young and want bright racy colours, stripes and flames - cause they make it go faster:bleh:

the bike isn't going to be sold to anyone other than insurance, and then i'd probably buy it back off them, so selling her isn't an issue if people would pay more for a classic nc30

limbimtimwim

12th December 2007, 18:33

oh yeah, i need a new screen; anyone know where i can buy them cheap?I got a smoked screen for my '35 from this guy: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=220556 . I am quite happy with it and the guy who sold it. Perhaps he can get you a clear one?

I'm with Jim, it's already a race replica paint job.

Romeo

12th December 2007, 18:54

Morcs

12th December 2007, 19:22

Pure white looks good. attached is pics of the 2 paint jobs I did myself on my old nc30.

Pwalo

13th December 2007, 06:46

It looks fine with the standard paint job - very RC30ish. Other wise I like the CBR250 paint scheme. Nice and understated.

Pumba

13th December 2007, 11:08

With a NC30 I would be keeping with its standard colour sceme, but hey its your bike do whatever the hell you want, you dont need our permission

more_fasterer

13th December 2007, 11:48

Repsol would look blardy hot IMO but would probably be a bit expensive! The black/white Honda paintjob underneath it would look mint too.

I got a smoked screen for my '35 from this guy: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=220556 . I am quite happy with it and the guy who sold it. Perhaps he can get you a clear one?

I wasn't very impressed with the smoked screen I got from this guy, it was deformed by the lip so it was far from optically correct; it was also quite brittle which I thought was bizarre as it was quite thick.
I replaced it with a Tyga one which is more expensive, but thin, optically correct and strong. And it only took 3 days to get here.

xwhatsit

13th December 2007, 14:14

Keep it original! It's got major biker-cred like that :D Very famous bike, quite desirable even overseas, where they are much rarer (we get all the Japanese dregs in shipping containers; they have to import them themselves at great expense).

motorbyclist

13th December 2007, 18:30

well, i want something new as the old look is very dated. frankly i don't care if it's classic or not - i want me to think it looks cool

gone with the RVT job, will paint the rims black to match cause frankly the white rims, while they do look good, are impossible to get/keep clean

question though: would silver "work" on the vfr? maybe i should use white instead?
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/04RC51.jpg

Coyote

13th December 2007, 18:57

I'm thinking of doing mine up like the 1098 Tricolore

Coyote

13th December 2007, 18:59

gone with the RVT job, will paint the rims black to match cause frankly the white rims, while they do look good, are impossible to get/keep clean

Haha, mine are black and they're a bitch to keep clean too. Road grime makes them a matt brown colour, and they only stay clean for a week.

EJK

13th December 2007, 19:05

haha think outside of the box! paint one like Ducati! :lol:

<img src="http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/Ducati%201098%20S%20Tricolor%2007%20%202.JPG">

Coyote

13th December 2007, 19:08

haha think outside of the box! paint one like Ducati! :lol:

I'm thinking of doing mine up like the 1098 Tricolore
Did you see my post? Or is this a case of great minds thinking alike?

EJK

13th December 2007, 19:11

:gob: to be honest, I didn't read that post lol

So I say "minds thinking alike" lol

Motorbiclist: DO IT! :laugh:

deanohit

14th December 2007, 07:50

Heres what one looks like with the tyga tail and modern paint:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/photos/a-131398352/p-56213444/k-61507.htm =)

Coyote

14th December 2007, 08:17

Heres what one looks like with the tyga tail and modern paint:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/photos/a-131398352/p-56213444/k-61507.htm =)
That's not a TYGA tail. That points up far too high and it's a more basic shape. TYGA have a fair bit more detail in their bodywork.

Plus it's a NC24, the frame is piddly and the rear wheel is mounted with 4 bolts.

Something doesn't look right with it's paint too... the wings have sharp corners, VFR and Honda are at different angles and the VFR logo looks weird, an original style one would look much better. I like the RVF front though.

imdying

14th December 2007, 09:00

Wow, that is super ugly. I too like the RVF front on it though :)

Tail makes me want to puke... having said that, I'd have like mine raised 40mm on the SV... should've stolen a K3S subframe, but waaaaay too late for that now :rofl:

motorbyclist

14th December 2007, 18:04

Coyote

14th December 2007, 18:39

that's a nc 24 or whatever came beofre the nc30 by the looks of it.... but it's a bit of a mongrel with the tail and shit

i'm thinking of using a deep metallic red, but i'm also thinking of a matt finish on either the wings or red only...

or go do that black/white honda bike with silver wings on matt black or matt red base.....
Indeed it is the NC24. NC21 came before that. All NC's have roughly the same engine though they did increase the redline in the NC30, but Koba's bike (an NC21) is just as quick off the mark as mine (though mine is a bit worse for wear internally which such high k's. Only 20km shy of 70,000km right now).

A simple, solid colour with VFR graphics looks good. That's what my VFR was like, gloss black with light grey stickers. Since then it's been through some shit. Tail is primered waiting for me to get the time to paint it, planning to do the same for the front and sides. At least it wasn't all stock paintwork so I'm not too hung up about ruining it. I'll just make it more awesome instead.

I'm not joking about painting up my bike in Ducati Tricolore style, that would look wicked if I did it right :p

motorbyclist

15th December 2007, 14:16

I'm not joking about painting up my bike in Ducati Tricolore style, that would look wicked if I did it right :p

yeah i reckon it would actually, just i dunno about painting the honda like a ducati....

my nc30 is around 55000 km on the clock plus 2000 while my speedo cable was snapped plus any other ks i dunno about, and she still goes like a rocket:2thumbsup. those engines are bloody bombproof.
(and i knew it went nc 21 24 30 35, just i wasn't 100%)

it's interesting the amount of bog/paint on my plastic tail fairings - this thing has been crashed atleast 4 times with that tail on there, and at some point 2 or 3 paintjobs ago the painters didn't remove the vinyls and painted over them! now i'm pulling out vinyls and having to sand back several coats of paint all over the rear, which is taking AGES. plus some idiot used fbireglass to fix cracks from behind rather than welding (actually i am using structural epoxy on the inside not knowing what the plastic type is, and bog on the outside for scratches etc)

and the dark blue on the tank it turns out is just vinyl with a lot of clearcoat on it.... it's a shame me nor my uncle realised this untill after we bogged up the dent, partially covering the blue vinyl :doh: (and man he did an amazing job with it too)

front is fibreglass we bought when we got the vfr as a do-up project, cept now it's got alot of bog and structural epoxy in it

still open for paint suggestions as i'm still preparing the tail/tank and am yet to cover everything in primer.... hoping to have the new subframe on the vfr by tuesday night and get it to the shop so we can mask up the new job on wednesday

and omg; straight subframe for an nc30 plus sidestand for $41 plus $12 shipping:wari:

EJK

15th December 2007, 14:26

how about a painjob like this?

Serious question here, How much would this kind of paint job cost?

motorbyclist

15th December 2007, 15:36

how about a painjob like this?

Serious question here, How much would this kind of paint job cost?

well that's not my style, but talking to my uncle i asked the same questions:

Q. How long does it normally take to properly prep fairings
A. sometimes as long as 40 hours if the bike needs as much work as yours

Q. holy crap, and painting?
A. depends on masking/artworks, but a fair while again

Q. then what about cars?
A. bikes take alot longer than cars cause cars are flat and fast/easy. bikes are countoured and very fiddly, making bogging/sanding/masking/spraying all the more difficult

Q. so how much would this cost if i wasn't doing all the labour?
A. if i was hiring you out for 30-40 hours just to bog/prep/prime/sand it how much do you think it would cost?

Q. got a mate who want's a matt blue finish all over his gsx250, how much if he has it all smooth and ready for priming?
A. if it was properly prepared and just one colour he's looking at about $240 per panel

Q. so this stuff can cost thousands?
A. sure does

Q. a guy offered another mate a full set of plastic fairings for an '89 cbr400 with factory paint for $1600
A. fucking buy it - that is a bargain, would be largely vinyls on a base coat of paint

i imagine custom artwork would cost shitloads more

ad i've already spent almost 30 hours and still have to remove a "vfr400r" vinyl set onto the bottom layer of paint and then do the tank.... apparently another problem with bikes is that you can break the fairings if you stiff up with an orbital, plus nothing is flat

Coyote

15th December 2007, 15:59

yeah i reckon it would actually, just i dunno about painting the honda like a ducati....

still open for paint suggestions as i'm still preparing the tail/tank and am yet to cover everything in primer.... hoping to have the new subframe on the vfr by tuesday night and get it to the shop so we can mask up the new job on wednesday

and omg; straight subframe for an nc30 plus sidestand for $41 plus $12 shipping:wari:
Well I'll just have to find out if it is a disaster or not won't I? :p I'm still considering going stock, or leaving it gloss black, but there's no imagination there.

Have a look at www.tyga-performance.com if you haven't already been there. There's tonnes of inspirational images, some done by them and they have a gallery of other peoples rides with their kit on them.

What's this about a subframe? Mine is bent, I'd be keen for a stock one (would get a TYGA one if I didn't take my girlfriend on the back all the time).

sAsLEX

15th December 2007, 16:00

haha think outside of the box! paint one like Ducati! :lol:

<img src="http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/Ducati%201098%20S%20Tricolor%2007%20%202.JPG">

You mean in Castrol Colours? Do a Slight replica?!

motorbyclist

15th December 2007, 16:10

Well I'll just have to find out if it is a disaster or not won't I? :p I'm still considering going stock, or leaving it gloss black, but there's no imagination there.

Have a look at www.tyga-performance.com if you haven't already been there. There's tonnes of inspirational images, some done by them and they have a gallery of other peoples rides with their kit on them.

What's this about a subframe? Mine is bent, I'd be keen for a stock one (would get a TYGA one if I didn't take my girlfriend on the back all the time).

yeah tyga has wite a few good jobs on there - google image search shows quite a few repsol jobs too

squiggles found me a straight subframe on trademe which i then one for $41 plus $12 dirt cheap shipping from napier to auckland, and might sell the sidestand it came with to a mate who lost his leaning too far

$53 all up - i'm stoked (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=130458496)

absolute bargain, and for the first time in my ownership the bike will be more-or-less straight :D

hopefully she'll travel in a straight line again too:sweatdrop

Coyote

15th December 2007, 16:13

squiggles found me a straight subframe on trademe which i then one for $41 plus $12 dirt cheap shipping from napier to auckland, and might sell the sidestand it came with to a mate who lost his leaning too far

$53 all up - i'm stoked (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=130458496)

absolute bargain, and for the first time in my ownership the bike will be more-or-less straight :D

hopefully she'll travel in a straight line again too:sweatdrop
Gah, why didn't I see that?!

Ah well. I'm pretty keen on finding a CBR400RR one instead and try make that fit, then get a TYGA tail. That way I get a TYGA tail with a pillion seat :2thumbsup

How much do custon vinyls cost?

Coyote

15th December 2007, 16:17

You mean in Castrol Colours? Do a Slight replica?!
Several people have already done that. Still, I'm pretty keen to do that, I've always loved the VTR1000 SP in those colours

motorbyclist

15th December 2007, 17:33

How much do custon vinyls cost?

depends on th graphic, the size, where/how you get them and if they're standard or custom, and unless you apply them yourself the shape of the bike will affect labour costs aswell

when i was signwriting we had a job for some honda race bikes, already painted red, and we were to cover it in sponsors and some black honda wings. took a full 8 hour day per bike to get all that done, would've been a bit easier if they had given us a bike to mount the fairings to to line up the wings. dunno what the cost was

vinyl can be good compared to paint in that very little work (money) is required. just paint a base colour and go from there - but unless you've got the right stuff for the job you can't paint or clear over it cause it shrinks and stones will easily damage it - and it's a right bastard to apply to non-flat surfaces, especially bike fairings

you can generally get sets of graphics off trademe (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Frames-bodywork/auction-131544081.htm) or go to signwriter and get them made up for cheaper

you can get some good reflective scotchlite vinyls though to make yourself more visible - i put some on my helmet, might put some on the bike

Several people have already done that. Still, I'm pretty keen to do that, I've always loved the VTR1000 SP in those colours

damn that does look nice

breakaway

16th December 2007, 19:33

oh yeah, i need a new screen; anyone know where i can buy them cheap?

i'm tempted to leave it original, but at the same time i'm young and want bright racy colours, stripes and flames - cause they make it go faster:bleh:

the bike isn't going to be sold to anyone other than insurance, and then i'd probably buy it back off them, so selling her isn't an issue if people would pay more for a classic nc30

I paid ~$30 incl shipping for my screen from eBay after my little incident.

motorbyclist

16th December 2007, 21:11

I paid ~$30 incl shipping for my screen from eBay after my little incident.

might have a look

<img src="http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Honda-VTR-02.jpg">

arj127

22nd December 2007, 06:58

still open for paint suggestions as i'm still preparing the tail/tank and am yet to cover everything in primer.... hoping to have the new subframe on the vfr by tuesday night and get it to the shop so we can mask up the new job on wednesday

Don't forget about the newish 2K paint that LJ Smits sells. Its damn easy to work with and will leave a flat shiny as surface straight off the gun without the need for cutting/buffing. I painted my previous bike about a year or so ago, and couldn't make my mind up on met green or met blue. The colour looks awesome out in the sun. I painted the wheels a light metallic gunmetal grey colour.

arj127

22nd December 2007, 07:00

see http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=61108

motorbyclist

30th January 2008, 15:11

ok guys, it's been a while due to work and other commitments, but tomorrow i'm finally going to be buying some paint and hopefully throwing on the first coat

but still unsure of what i want :(

that ducati tricolour looks really good now cause it'll be cheap and easy.....

what to do?!

Fatjim

30th January 2008, 15:36

Check out the rothmans scheme PB or superbikes (I can't remeber which) did to their long termer fireblade. That was pretty much the best scheme I'd ever seen on a road bike.

JustTrix400

1st February 2008, 22:28

Wow I am doing up a 1989 VFR as well. I am getting the following paint scheme on mine. I have a bee fetish, no Im not a bee keeper, I just like yellow as its a real safety color plus my current bike is yellow like a bee as well.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/burgesst66/trix_mockup21.jpg

motorbyclist

1st February 2008, 23:14

that looks interesting... post up some pics once you're done:)

thursday i ordered the paint (holy crap that shit is expensive), then promptly changed my mind but too late now:doh:

will take my rims into work and sandblast them cause it's either that or another go with caustic soda. some of the tar/gravel/brake dust on there is harder than the paint is! i haven't tried sanding yet, but it's way too fiddly so that's a weapon of last resort

would try to get away with just the heavy etching on the old paint, but that bloody road grime in some places is that bad the only way i could remove it was with a screwdriver

so sand blast it is:D

then put tyres back on, paint rims, take rims home, put on bike, bring bike out to shop, mask everything up, spray first colour, hopefully have vinyls ready so i can get round to second and 3rd colours and maybe be near finished by this friday

(painting with tyres deflated and masked to avoid damage to the paint trying to get the tyre back on)

slydesigns

2nd February 2008, 14:13

motorbyclist

2nd February 2008, 18:13

Don't listen to ANYONE one here that says "not to paint it its a classic". The bikes yours, if they want to left stock because its a classic they should buy it. Otherwise, make the damn thing your own, any style YOU wish. Its YOUR money and YOUR ass that rides it, no one elses. Its like someone saying you shouldn,t get a tat because THEY don't like them, you can't take them off and the "perfect" girl won't like them... who cares what they think!

DON'T buy a vinyl kit off the net. Get one made, they can also do a mask set for spraying in a proper computer cuttable masking vinyl. This is particularly useful for making up sponsor style logos for spraying on the bellypan etc. I know because I'm a signwriter and currently heavily customising my NC29 CBR400RR.

Check out www.tygaperformance.com for some radical NC30/NC35 paint ideas.

yeah i didn't want it to be a classic seeing as i don't intend to sell and really who gives a shit? just makes it look retro and thoroughly unimpressive unless the person admiring it actually knows they're looking at an "original, stock standard NC30 in race replica colours"

actually, i was going to leave it scratched until i drop it again, but the old man feels i need to be "punished".... all i care is that it stays reliable and continues to outcorner nearly any other bike out there (anyone can go fast in a straight line, it's the corners that count)

i had a look around tyga, and it really was good to see

and yes i'm getting some masking vinyls sorted. i used to work part time at a signwriters while i was at high school, so know what they're capable of, though never got a chance to use masking vinyls myself.

got any protips for the use of masking vinyl? how much should i be prepared to pay for just the tank decal in masking vinyl? and how much for what may eventuate in two metres of the stuff (wings for the sides of the bike and a bit more on the tail)

slydesigns

4th February 2008, 22:23

The stuff I'm using is the same stuff I use to make my airbrush masks when I'm doing a helmet. Its called ORAMASK from ORACAL. Its about $12.50/m and comes on a 1220mm x 45m roll, so as you can see... its damn cheap. Its semi transparent so you can vaguely see whats under the mask... useful for ding layered masks like logos or 3d effects and masking where you want to lift off a section, spray, them replace the mask before applying another colour.

If you go to a site called www.brandsoftheworld.com you can obtain the corporate honda wing logos already vectorized in an .eps format to supply to a signwriter to cut. Saves you alot in setup fees. All they have to do is load up the .eps, resize and cut. Unless your lucky like me and have your own cutters and printers to indulge in your habit.

I'm doing the fullsize wings on each side, the belly honda logo in the body colour on the carbon bellypan, my company logos and a couple of sponsors for mt project, all in the masking, as well as a helmet to match. Most of mine are reverse weeded masks as the green will be going down first, then the mask and the black wing. So I need extra material on the edge to form a decent border to apply the masking tape to with out encrouching on the cutout mask. I'm planning on 4m x 1220mm of masking.

motorbyclist

4th February 2008, 23:27

sounds good... the signshop i am planning to use already has the honda files (as an ex-employee i'd know), but having it all pre-prepared will definetley be good for the wallet

i was planning on using the mask for the honda graphic on the tank and the honda "wings" on the side of the bike, plus some high-visibility reflective vinyl (got a few metres lying around in the shed) for the other graphics

was going to paint the wings/tank decals first, apply the mask over the top, spray the other colours, remove mask and then clear coat (2pac). then reflective vinyl lettering over the clear (obviously)

any problems with this you can forsee? my uncle doesn't seem to use masking vinyls very often so all the warnings/tips you have/a second opinion would be good

oh, and when are you cutting your mask out?:blip:

slydesigns

5th February 2008, 21:41

When Customs finally releases my 12kg box of TYGA goodness. Hoping it will be at home by Friday. Wave Brakes and HEL green braided lines are already in, as is the Shift-i system. Steering damper is being rebuilt on Thursday and green and black Pazzo levers and green chain, then its kit masking and painting time!

Just remember the crappy short lifespan on reflective vinyl, even the flashest Avery and 3M brands, as well as the mess it leaves behind. They can be removed by peeling them off then heating the mess left behind and hitting it with a piece of masking tape.

On the other hand... if you clear the reflective into the paint, it will last longer BUT could also curl up as the clear wicks under the film before its cured.

Basically... reflective sucks butt. Try a background vinyl layer behind the reflective, to aid removal and replacement later. Like a thin black background outline or something.

Normally the mask is pulled up before the paints fully cured to avoid cracking and produce a smoother line. This wont be possible with multiple paint layers. You may have to LIGHTLY run a blade along the mask edge on the paint side to aid releasing of the mask material. The light line left by the blade will be filled by the clear coats. Try a tab or two taped to the centre of the masks to help lift them as well. Tab them before you begin painting but AFTER you have applied the mask.

motorbyclist

7th February 2008, 13:25

.............................

why'd you delete the post?

motorbyclist

7th February 2008, 17:44

right, here's the mask i intend to use, note the tank decal will be rotated slightly to match the rest of the bike

now i've got all the mask in a file at 1:1 scale, i've just got to get the vinyl cut:banana:

slydesigns

7th February 2008, 18:00

Why aren't you using a stretched version of the actual Honda wing, front part included, like the late model Fireblades do? You've only got the swept back part and not the leading edge of the wing.

motorbyclist

7th February 2008, 20:15

Why aren't you using a stretched version of the actual Honda wing, front part included, like the late model Fireblades do? You've only got the swept back part and not the leading edge of the wing.

because i don't want it to look like every other fireblade and "custom" painted honda:bleh:

nah was going more for the rvt sp look (the RC51) (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/04RC51.jpg)

having just the swept back part was deliberate, after a bit of playing on photoshop

just wait till you see the colour scheme (even i'm curious as to how it'll come out:laugh:)

motorbyclist

8th February 2008, 08:36

motorbyclist

8th February 2008, 11:39

ok, modified the drawing a bit and got it all vectorised and took it to the shop where it's all ready to go, just needs vinyl. shop was closing early today, so will be cut monday when i show up with 2 metres of 610mm wide vinyl

:D

if anyone wants the vector file for the bike wings just email me

slydesigns

8th February 2008, 14:46

Your right... I mucked around on Photoshop and Illustrator last night and just couldn't get the whole wing to fit AND look right in the VFR. I forgot how upright they look. Your version is pretty much all I could get to fit and look the part as well. The TYGA fairings on mine are markedly more swept allowing for the full wing as well as the bellypan being full carbon and not painted meaning the wing couldn't go as low as yours. The NC30 should look pretty trick, looking forward to the final pics.

motorbyclist

11th February 2008, 17:09

DISASTER:weep:

so today i got the vinyl cut and weeded/apped it, then went to find uncle had already finished painting the wheels and was about to start the first base coat on the fairings. while he sprayed that i sanded the tank down and all was looking good for a "done by the weekend to ride down to paeroa" finish

but as soon as that first base coat started to dry, it also boiled up and went all crazy on us. it even munted the otherwise spotless 2 pot primer, which on the mudguard was an expoy primer so wtf

long story short, i'm currently sanding down all the fairings, again, thanks to whatever paint the last guy to paint it used reacting with the new base coat through the primer. sanded right through the old paint to find some crazy paint under that again too:mad:

waste of paint and waste of primer and waste of time!

Zuki Bandit

11th February 2008, 18:10

Bit of photoshopping, what do ya reckon? A bit loud but the colours are complimentry.

deanohit

11th February 2008, 19:35

waste of paint and waste of primer and waste of time!
Bummer man, love the look of the graphics you've chosen though!

Bit of photoshopping, what do ya reckon? A bit loud but the colours are complimentry.
Dude, what are you on?! :blink:
Maybe a more full yellow, like the color of the smilies would match a purple that dark better.

motorbyclist

12th February 2008, 23:53

Bit of photoshopping, what do ya reckon? A bit loud but the colours are complimentry.

lol yeah one of my mates already offered a similar suggestion

motorbyclist

13th February 2008, 13:02

this bike is going to take a while to paint. damn cracks keep coming back through the paint....

just went from maybe done by the weekend, to "lucky to be done by the time uni starts, at which point i wont have time to do it anymore and need to have the bike on the road again"

fuck

really don't want a half finished bike.....

sealer would help, but from what i hear the paint will crazy in 6 months time if i don't do it properly the first time

maybe if i can just get the tank back on i can ride it naked for a while....

Squiggles

13th February 2008, 15:17

Using a different paint type to the original? like enamel instead of laquer? Heard that'll f it up if you dont get the old stuff completely 100% off

motorbyclist

13th February 2008, 17:08

Using a different paint type to the original? like enamel instead of laquer? Heard that'll f it up if you dont get the old stuff completely 100% off

exactly what is happening now, but i believe the old stuff was enamel, new stuff laquer (but then i'm no paint expert, just sand/mask the thing and make pretty pictures)

i don't really want to strip the entire effing bike back to bare fibreglass/plastic/metal, especially considering the primer and prep work so far invested in the current finish

uncle currently doing his thing to fix it, but doing it inbetween paying customers...

basically at the family dinner thing tonight i'll there'll be some discussion about simply putting it in as an official job and paying him to finish the damn thing before next weekend

motorbyclist

14th February 2008, 10:25

basically at the family dinner thing tonight i'll there'll be some discussion about simply putting it in as an official job and paying him to finish the damn thing before next weekend

ok, now i'm now a paying customer; i'll be lucky to see it done by uni start but atleast it's a possibility

motorbyclist

17th February 2008, 00:43

masking mostly done :D

still deciding exactly what's happening on the front there, but i like what i've got so far (likely to put "wing" on both lights, but might get lazy)

Squiggles

17th February 2008, 20:27

(likely to put "wing" on both lights, but might get lazy)

i reckon it might be mint being unsymmetrical, just like the rest of the fairings :rolleyes:

motorbyclist

18th February 2008, 23:58

ok, got the front decided on:banana:

gotta love MSpaint's jpeg compression - i realised i had the wrong shade of red on the body only after saving, so can't fix it:first:

motorbyclist

19th February 2008, 22:57

:crybaby:

long story short, this afternoon my little brother decided to pull his dirtbike out for a blat

in doing so he not only knocked my front mudguard to the ground, but ran over it:angry2:

and to think i wasn't going to have to go back to the shop till it was all finally finshed:buggerd: - i've only just got my fingerprints back and now i'm back to sanding:(

lesson learnt: either bolt it onto the bike, or be prepared to have it ruined

slydesigns

19th February 2008, 23:08

If it helps, I have a spare TYGA RC211V replica front fender for an NC30/NC29 if you need it. Its brand new factory primered and ready to go. I forgot I have an NSR front end on my NC29 when I ordered my kit, so had to have a new NSR style one sent over. They didn't want to old one back so its surplus.

Check their website for an image of the fender.

motorbyclist

14th May 2008, 23:08

right, so once uni started i managed to get a complete set of original fairings including tank for $600, and so had little incentive nor time to go work on the paintjob

then i had a bit break off on the highway, and since then have been riding with a slightly mis-colour-matched panel all held on with duct tape

but today....

:D

:D

:D

after several months of uni preventing me from doing any work my painted fairings magically appeared on my parent's dining room table today

sure the red bit by the screen should be black, and the there is a bit of dust one part of the tail, but i'm just happy it's done:2thumbsup

this weekend will be reassembly

yod

14th May 2008, 23:10

:drool:

niiiiice mate....that'll look the shizzle on the bike!!!

Ripperjon

16th May 2008, 20:16

Nice. I like it.:done:

fridayflash

16th May 2008, 20:37

motorbyclist

16th May 2008, 22:46

i reckon original is best,and best for resale but it comes down to personal taste as well. have you seen new vfr800 in interceptor colour shceme?

post pic plz:)

slydesigns

17th May 2008, 08:47

Come on... you know you want to show us all...
let me know if you want any logos made up for it to finish it off, i'll hook you up a stupidly cheap deal seeing as this has been a hard road for you, but now its done, and I've followed it from the start.

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 16:57

:D

now i just need to figure out what graphics (if any) i want where and she'll be mint!

pics too come soon, including my airbox mod, right after i've ridden it :D

HenryDorsetCase

18th May 2008, 17:25

I am thinking seriously about either Freddie Spencer's 1983 motogp colour scheme (first year he won the world championship on the NS500), or the 1985/1986 RS750R paintjob (V4 world TTF1 championship...) both dead sexy.

RS750R (yes thats Wayne Gardner on a pitbike)

http://www.classicracer.com/ft2.htm

NS500R

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 20:42

ok, so the airbox mod comprised of ditching the soundproofing and drilling a few holes in that plastic flap to allow the bike to breath some fresh air. removing the whole flap apparently creates an air ram from the snorkel, and someone seems to have already tried and decided it was a bad idea lol (no fuel pump/pressure to handle a pressurized airbox)

if it causes problems i will be able to easily revert it

initial testing shows no noticable air-ram effects up to 140kph, dunno how it behaves above that

either way, removing the soundproofing was an awesome idea and engine response and acceleration seem to have improved

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 20:48

got a new horn from a mate. he reckons it's 140Db.

at first i thought it was broken as it wouldn't go.... then i found i had a broken wire on my bike... then it still wouldn't go, just made this clunking noise...

started the bike and whaddaya know it works, and makes the headlights dim while it's going! suffice to say it's pretty bloody loud

also pictured is the radiator guard i made some time ago. the old one i had before the crash last year was mounted on the fairing and had a hole worn in it from the front wheel under braking. this one so far it mint (looked mint when it was still shiny too)

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 20:54

here you can see the old subframe and the mess a previous owner had made of it fitting an aftermarket reg/rec. this probably had a part to play in the bending of that frame and the groans it made with pillions

i got an intact subframe off trademe for $40, tidied it up, painted and fitted. tried to mount the reg/rec above the battery but upon arrival at the "test" ATNR i found it to be farking hot! since moved it securely to the frame where it keeps cool.

yes it is secure, yes it is fully grounded

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 21:00

and now she's almost done :D

a bit of pissing around with bolts etc held it up, and then she really needed a clean, but she's mint!

i'm a little concerned about some overspray that got into the tank that no doubt it dissolving into my petrol, but the stuff costs so much i don't want to dump all that gas for fresh stuff:( maybe if i ride it lots the paint solute will be reasonably dilute:D

thinking of graphics....

maybe just the "HONDA" on tail (red) and front (silver), with the "VFR400R" on the tail (silver) and a big silver HONDA across the belly....

mark247

18th May 2008, 21:08

Throw the normal 400R decal on the back and the V4 power decal on the side, they look good i reckon...

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 21:16

dunno how those would fit in the the current paint...

plus i need to get the seats re-covered

xwhatsit

18th May 2008, 21:28

What the hell? Where does the fuel go? There's a giant air-filter in the way!

PirateJafa

18th May 2008, 21:41

My god that looks like one damn nice bike.

Again. :D

I still think that it would look better streetfightered. :shutup:

PirateEdit: Holy shit he stoleded my horn! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=95893&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1211100467)

motorbyclist

18th May 2008, 21:58

What the hell? Where does the fuel go? There's a giant air-filter in the way!

LOL - in that bike, EVERYTHING is in the way:
front sparkplugs? front radiator plus fairings.
oil filter? bottom radiator, fairings, mind you don't burn yourself reaching between two header pipes.
air filter? loosen tail fairings, remove seat, tank, open airbox.

good thing she hardly ever needs any maintenance

My god that looks like one damn nice bike.

Again. :D

I still think that it would look better streetfightered. :shutup:

PirateEdit: Holy shit he stoleded my horn! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=95893&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1211100467)

haha yeah she does look good streetfightered but i'd need to hide alot of wiring from the rain

and that's what you get for inviting a westie to your flat :bleh:

PirateJafa

18th May 2008, 22:05

haha yeah she does look good streetfightered but i'd need to hide alot of wiring from the rain

and that's what you get for inviting a westie to your flat :bleh:

Enough duct tape will cure any ill.

Swoop

19th May 2008, 09:52

post pic plz:)
This is the Interceptor RWB (red white blue) scheme.

F'ing sexy!

HungusMaximist

24th May 2008, 08:19

dunno how those would fit in the the current paint...

plus i need to get the seats re-covered

Fark, you farken copy cat Andrew! :bleh:

But seriously it looks REALLY GOOD, I am guessing you did most of the work yourself? :msn-wink:

I looks good in the photos so it better look good in the FLESH!

Oh yea, you know my new rear seat with the stripes? I got it done for $40.00 bucks from a dude in Sandringham and it's not gonna get any cheaper!

I gotta dig out his address and number but I reckon he's the dude to go to!

motorbyclist

24th May 2008, 13:34

Fark, you farken copy cat Andrew! :bleh:

i'll have you know i've been planning/working on this since the beginning of the year, so it is infact you who are the copy-cat;)

:first::bleh:

n0regret5

25th May 2008, 14:53

that particular colour scheme is rare now..i'd keep it as it (getting rid of the fugly blue screen) as it may appeal to someone down the line after an NC30..

motorbyclist

25th May 2008, 15:32

LOL too late for that now

but i've got original plastics and a spare tank all in the replica colours anyway

slydesigns

25th May 2008, 21:56

Dude, I doubt you bought it to collect it, restore it to original and sell it to make heaps of money, right? You've painted it and made it yours, now ride the pants off it, laugh your ass off and enjoy. Let the others that keep talking crap about resale and keeping things original go buy one to restore.

more_fasterer

26th May 2008, 12:36

Throw the normal 400R decal on the back and the V4 power decal on the side, they look good i reckon...

Wot e' said. Paint looks great dude, nicely done.

ok, so the airbox mod comprised of ditching the soundproofing and drilling a few holes in that plastic flap to allow the bike to breath some fresh air. removing the whole flap apparently creates an air ram from the snorkel, and someone seems to have already tried and decided it was a bad idea lol (no fuel pump/pressure to handle a pressurized airbox)

if it causes problems i will be able to easily revert it

initial testing shows no noticable air-ram effects up to 140kph, dunno how it behaves above that

either way, removing the soundproofing was an awesome idea and engine response and acceleration seem to have improved

I've cut the flap away and removed the snorkel, and haven't noticed any problem with it leaning out at high speed. But then I am running bigger jets (120F / 122R) than normal, and most of the HRC carb kit.

motorbyclist

26th May 2008, 21:31

I've cut the flap away and removed the snorkel, and haven't noticed any problem with it leaning out at high speed. But then I am running bigger jets (120F / 122R) than normal, and most of the HRC carb kit.

yeah i did some reading prior to making the mod and that seems to be the thing to do

but i don't want to cut off a perfectly good snorkel as of just yet

more_fasterer

27th May 2008, 11:51

The snorkel just pulls out.

Morcs

27th May 2008, 12:50

vifferman

27th May 2008, 13:17

I've cut the flap away and removed the snorkel, and haven't noticed any problem with it leaning out at high speed.
It seems to be a common mod for lotsa models of bikes. I tried disabling the flapper valve on the VFR800, and I reckon it made the bike run worse below 5k RPM. I tried it on the VTR, and didn't notice any difference. The only bike that it did make a difference on was the VF500, where the snorkel intake is at the rear of the airbox lid. I thought I had some issues when running into a headwind where the bike seemed to have a lean surge, so I turned the airbox lid around, which made the intake noise slightly louder and the bike seem to run better. However, one day I rode over the Kaimais with the snorkel at the front, and the carbs iced up - the only time it had ever done that (and I rode it through two winters in Chch, including when it was snowing). So, I put it back to stock. Obviously, the thing was designed to suck slightly warmer air from the space above the engine.

motorbyclist

30th May 2008, 00:06

So how much does a decent paint job take and how much do they cost?

was thinking about the tl in black. I dont want car painters pulling my bike apart as they wouldnt have a clue, and reflections over charge.

i spent well over $700 in paint, but that was largely in part to it all being mettalics and 2pac clear and a bit of epoxy primer etcetc

realistically, with the repairs, 3 colour job, plus rims, masking vinyls etc etc, and my bike being less than co-operative when fitting/removing fairings, my job would be over $2k easily

single colour on undamaged parts, however, would be a fair bit cheaper

i'm no expert, and i suspect a signwriter could do a very nice job indeed using vinyl over a base colour for a relatively lower price