Cage intentionally trying to kill me

[delusionz]

I was on the motorway heading out west a few nights ago and I had a cage tailgating me right up my ass so I sped up to 120 to try and clear myself from him and he sped up and kept tailgating me so I pulled over to let him past and then got back in the right lane behind him and almost to teach me a lesson as if 110 was too slow for him he slowed me down to 40kph on purpose with a line of cars behind me probably thinking 'what the fuck?' I waited for the left lanes to clear and pulled to the very left lane to get away weary that this guy was going to try something funny and just as I suspected the guy tried to swerve into me but having slowed down to 40kph he caught me at a speed where the acceleration of my 250cc was the greatest I managed to get out of there and the guy was still coming for me so I maxed out my bike in fear of my life and took and an earlier exit, went through some back roads and lost him. I turned off my head lights and stopped for a while, and then took some back roads to my destination..... WHAT THE HELL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought they're all out to kill us was literal.... It was some white legacy wagon with a rego plate starting with C I didn't remember the rest because I was so freaked out by Mr road rage...

[McJim]

Front and rear facing 9mm fully automatic machine pistols and a rocket launcher.

Problem solved.

[terbang]

Shame you didn't get a number...

[Katman]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

[discotex]

I never thought they're all out to kill us was literal.... It was some white legacy wagon with a rego plate starting with C I didn't remember the rest because I was so freaked out by Mr road rage...

It's that time of year. Everyone goes into "me first" mode more than usual. Kinda funny given what xmas is meant to be about.

I hit a similar fucktard on the way to work last week. Changed two lanes in peak hour traffic with a trailer right ontop of me.

I gassed it to get out of his way and to repay me (as I clearly did something wrong NOT) he decided to imitate ram me. Came within a foot of my rear.

Mr Fucktard got followed off the motorway and politely warned that next time he'd probably lose his mirror instead of a warning. He started arguing back and went to get unbuckle his seatbelt then thought better of it so I figured the point was made :)

I'm able to contain myself with the retards who don't see you etc but anyone who intentionally does shit like that rarks me up bigtime.

[vifferman]

Here - free Xmas gift for you - a handy assortment of punctuation marks. Feel free to sprinkle them liberally around your posts.

No, no need to thank me - that's what Xmas is all about! :third:

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[sprag]

I was on the motorway heading out west a few nights ago and I had a cage tailgating me right up my ass so I sped up to 120 to try and clear myself from him and he sped up and kept tailgating me so I pulled over to let him past and then got back in the right lane behind him and almost to teach me a lesson as if 110 was too slow for him he slowed me down to 40kph on purpose with a line of cars behind me probably thinking 'what the fuck?' I waited for the left lanes to clear and pulled to the very left lane to get away weary that this guy was going to try something funny and just as I suspected the guy tried to swerve into me but having slowed down to 40kph he caught me at a speed where the acceleration of my 250cc was the greatest I managed to get out of there and the guy was still coming for me so I maxed out my bike in fear of my life and took and an earlier exit, went through some back roads and lost him. I turned off my head lights and stopped for a while, and then took some back roads to my destination..... WHAT THE HELL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought they're all out to kill us was literal.... It was some white legacy wagon with a rego plate starting with C I didn't remember the rest because I was so freaked out by Mr road rage...

doesn't it just fuck you off, be ok if you could get away but on a 250 it can be hard, The ones that bugs me is the boy racer that pull up beside you on the motorway and just sit right next to you blocking you from other lanes unless you speed up or slow right down, then they get pissed off if you do get ahead of them and sit on your arse, and it always ends up that there are chicks in the car or there mates and they are just showing off.

[MotoKuzzi]

I was on the motorway heading out west a few nights ago and I had a cage tailgating me right up my ass so I sped up to 120 to try and clear myself from him and he sped up and kept tailgating me so I pulled over to let him past and then got back in the right lane behind him and almost to teach me a lesson as if 110 was too slow for him he slowed me down to 40kph on purpose with a line of cars behind me probably thinking 'what the fuck?' I waited for the left lanes to clear and pulled to the very left lane to get away weary that this guy was going to try something funny and just as I suspected the guy tried to swerve into me but having slowed down to 40kph he caught me at a speed where the acceleration of my 250cc was the greatest I managed to get out of there and the guy was still coming for me so I maxed out my bike in fear of my life and took and an earlier exit, went through some back roads and lost him. I turned off my head lights and stopped for a while, and then took some back roads to my destination..... WHAT THE HELL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought they're all out to kill us was literal.... It was some white legacy wagon with a rego plate starting with C I didn't remember the rest because I was so freaked out by Mr road rage...

Not excusing anything the wanker did, but did you do anything to piss him off prior to the tailgating ? :gob:

[jtzzr]

That kind of shit sucks , Fuck em kill em all:ar15::ar15::ar15:, but really shame you didn`t get a rego , Glad you`re OK

[delusionz]

Not excusing anything the wanker did, but did you do anything to piss him off prior to the tailgating ? :gob:

Never even seen the car in my life...

[devnull]

Wankers like that really need to be dragged out of their cage and have the crap beaten out of them...

Yet another argument for handguns instead of horns... If they feared for their own safety, they might think twice

[Ragingrob]

Honestly some people out there ay?!?! WTF??!?! Like Macster and his gf were on way home after the uni club ride, sitting in the offramp calmly when some teens decided they wanted to get off and pulled right across, he swerved and they JUST missed him. Biker and cage stopped at lights and the fucking cage full of teens were laughing at him. WTF. They don't even realise the danger at all. It'll be all fun and games 'till one/all of them end up in jail/the coffin before they understand the concept of life and losers.

[sunhuntin]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

and how the fuck does biker attitude apply here? delusionz was doing everything right... trying to get away. does he deserve to be hit for that?

[sprag]

Honestly some people out there ay?!?! WTF??!?! Like Macster and his gf were on way home after the uni club ride, sitting in the offramp calmly when some teens decided they wanted to get off and pulled right across, he swerved and they JUST missed him. Biker and cage stopped at lights and the fucking cage full of teens were laughing at him. WTF. They don't even realise the danger at all. It'll be all fun and games 'till one/all of them end up in jail/the coffin before they understand the concept of life and losers.

Argh, dicks, ban everyone apart from bikes, or give us our own roads :)

[99TLS]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

take your hand off it fuckwit :tugger:

[Swoop]

and how the fuck does biker attitude apply here? delusionz was doing everything right... trying to get away. does he deserve to be hit for that?
Do you realise that you are quoting the mentally handicapped?
Ignore him.

[PrincessBandit]

and how the fuck does biker attitude apply here? delusionz was doing everything right... trying to get away. does he deserve to be hit for that?

I think the point was NOT that delusionz was doing anything to piss the guy off, but perhaps he is paying for the antics of other riders who have somehow managed to get certain cagers worked up over anyone on two wheels. And I also think that the :tugger: behind the wheel of that car was an exceptionally sick example of road rage. My suspicions are that he (I am assuming it was a he) could well have done the same sort of shit to a little girl cage driver. I had a similar experience years ago driving my car and the guy chasing me through residential streets thought it was hilarious, could see him laughing in my rear vision mirror; I was terrified. Fuckwit. But back to my point, i don't think anyone is saying delusionz necessarily did anything to bring this upon himself.

[TOTO]

Oh my god , I have a story from today too. Traffic lights, me and my mate staying on traffic lights waiting for green on our bikes behind 5 cars. Then a girl puld right behind us from a side street and she didnt see that there is no enough space for her dum cage to get in da lane so half her ass is in the other direction lane. Anyway , green comes , my friend and I depart on our bikes and we are in a chess formation ( by the book). after 200 meters she overtakes us both at speed by going into the oncoming traffic about 30 cm from me - we were doing 60k ish in a 50k area and she must have been on 70 - dumb cow. lucky, I say LUCKY that there was no oncoming car ahead of her because if there was I'm sure she would have swerved and hit us. I got so so so angry , I swear on the traffic lights (after 700m) when she stoped I unloaded my best colourful language I could find but:angry2::angry2::angry2:, I still didnt feel any satisfactory. She just stood there and looked at me like she could see trough me. I so wanted to dent her dum cage but didn't do is coz I was afraid someone will take my rego and I'll have trouble with police. But FFS man what can I do in a situation like that - I literaly coud brake all ger windows and hit her car with an AX 70 times before I would have stoped. Any sugestion how I can cope with road rage inside me without actually hurting anyone or damajing property ?

Advice apprechiated.

[PrincessBandit]

just to add, someone once told me on another thread just to accept that all cagers will hate me and want to run-me-off-the-road type of thing just because I'm on a bike. I reckon there are cagers out there who just hate everyone no matter what mode of transport the objects of their hate are driving/riding.

[TOTO]

never heard of this one but I think may be true.

[discotex]

Any sugestion how I can cope with road rage inside me without actually hurting anyone or damajing property ?

Advice apprechiated.

Fucked if I know mate. Any time someone threatens your life you're bound to get upset about it.

I can forgive bad driving as ignorance and plain stupidity but deliberatly using their cars as weapons fucks me off as much as someone waving a loaded gun around at a party would. Not doing something about it feels worse.


just to add, someone once told me on another thread just to accept that all cagers will hate me and want to run-me-off-the-road type of thing just because I'm on a bike. I reckon there are cagers out there who just hate everyone no matter what mode of transport the objects of their hate are driving/riding.

Yep. There's plenty of those people out there. They'll snap the mirror off a merc just because it's an expensive car or tip your bike over because it's better than they'll ever have.

There's plenty of haters out there. Just stay away wherever possible and let them self destruct.

[Ixion]

just to add, someone once told me on another thread just to accept that all cagers will hate me and want to run-me-off-the-road type of thing just because I'm on a bike. I reckon there are cagers out there who just hate everyone no matter what mode of transport the objects of their hate are driving/riding.

Well, not ALL cagers. But there are nutters out there and they do drive cages. And, unfortunately, cages do not come with big labels on saying "This one's bike aware"; "this one's friendly but stupid"; or , "BEWARE: Homocidal nutter". So, you must assume the worst and take it that any given cage may be driven by Mr H Nutter. On his bad day. When he hasn't taken his pills.

[delusionz]

I hope this thread keeps people on their wits about road rage. I never expected it, I've never had anyone intentionally aim their vehicle at me before. Definitely a whole new experience for me and it was very real too, I thought a good chase like that belongs in the movies...

[delusionz]

Well, not ALL cagers. But there are nutters out there and they do drive cages. And, unfortunately, cages do not come with big labels on saying "This one's bike aware"; "this one's friendly but stupid"; or , "BEWARE: Homocidal nutter". So, you must assume the worst and take it that any given cage may be driven by Mr H Nutter. On his bad day. When he hasn't taken his pills.

Hehe, But I do tend to trust vehicles which display an "*Italian flag* I'd rather be riding my DUCATI" bumper sticker :D

[Jorja]

What Frosty told me was to ALWAYS ride like everybody and everything is out to kill ME.
Hes alive after 30 years of riding so He must have a point

[Fub@r]

I so wanted to dent her dum cage but didn't do is coz I was afraid someone will take my rego and I'll have trouble with police.

I wouldn't worry too much about someone taking your rego. I booted the arse out of a guys car earlier this month after he physically nudged me in the leg. Never heard a peep.

Spoke to a copper I know about the incident, as far as he was concerned any biker that is willing to risk injury to himself on a bike to boot a car the car driver must have really done something moronic :)

[TOTO]

I wouldn't worry too much about someone taking your rego. I booted the arse out of a guys car earlier this month after he physically nudged me in the leg. Never heard a peep.

Spoke to a copper I know about the incident, as far as he was concerned any biker that is willing to risk injury to himself on a bike to boot a car the car driver must have really done something moronic :)

unfortunate that sometimes it has to get to this. I guess there is a first time for everything, hope not to get to that stage dou :confused:*TOTO being hopeful*

[EnzoYug]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

Bullshit.
Sorry Katman, but it's never as black and white as that. Yes people who ride motorcycles like assholes will leave a bad impression - yet there are plenty of asshole cage drivers out there and I don't try and take off the wing mirrors of each that I meet.

In a similar fashion it is only the most close minded of car drivers who will decide that all motorcyclists are the same and each deserves to be run off the road.

It sounds like you'd love to hijack this horrible experience for the good of your own campaign but please, don't. That's like saying that violent video games make kids take guns to a mall and shoot people. At the end of the day the guy in the car was a nutcase - and you can't change that.

that's all.

[zxcvbnm]

They don't even need a cage now. Last week I had a nutter on foot run at me and try to push me off in a 50km zone.

I almost stopped to show him how hard the armor is on my gloves.

[FilthyLuka]

They don't even need a cage now. Last week I had a nutter on foot run at me and try to push me off in a 50km zone.

I almost stopped to show him how hard the armor is on my gloves.

Shoulda done it, that armour is pretty hard ;)

There are always some nutters, its best to ride with your eyes wide open. It may sound stupid, but what i've found helps alot, if someone is behind you, glance at your mirror and take a look at the driver. You will be suprised how often you can avoid stupidity like dumb arse road rage drivers just by looking at them.

For example: going into work to pick something up this evening,

Look in wing mirror, see blonde lass in a familia driving pretty close, move aside at the lights and let her pull up beside, just wanted to look at the bike, sweet, not a problem (made me blush though :shutup: )

On the way back, look in wing mirror, angry dude, got the hard death stare going and following a bit close... Fuck this, time for a tiki tour, pull of on a side street, take a left and a left and then back onto remuera road.

No shame in running i reckon.

[McJim]

Any sugestion how I can cope with road rage inside me without actually hurting anyone or damajing property ?

Advice apprechiated.

Get some good quality porn and get about an hour of tugging in there - should be right as rain after that :yes:

[Boob Johnson]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.
Omg man!!! Are you seriously THAT in need of attention? The slightest indiscretion whether right of wrong of the biker & you're on your (self appointed) soap box? Is this what we are to expect from Katman each time a similar post arises? Give it a rest man, for the love of God!

[FilthyLuka]

for the love of God!

'parrently he gives it away to everyone for free...


I KNOW!

[Boob Johnson]

Wankers like that really need to be dragged out of their cage and have the crap beaten out of them...

Yet another argument for handguns instead of horns... If they feared for their own safety, they might think twice
Although I don't agree with the gun part you're totally right. If they feared for their OWN safety they WOULD think twice.


So many seemingly normal law abiding citizens having sporadic fits of God knows what that see's them using a one and a half tonne piece of METAL as a deadly weapon, it really is quite bazaar when you think about it. It reverts us into some sort of prime evil state at the stomp of a peddle. The same goes for a truck vs car or any other vehicle smaller than we are currently operating, there is a part of the brain that tells you that the other vehicle is of no real physical threat to you personally & a prime evil primate emerges beating its testosterone laden chest.

[Mikkel]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

I'm not on the "katman hate" wagon mate, but I think you stepped over the line there!

Mental idiots are out there and it doesn't matter if you're on your bike or in your car... You just might pay more attention to them while on two wheels.

But yeah, I don't know how I would react if I had anyone being that much of an asshole and then got an impression that they were laughing about putting my life at risk... I just might make an exception...

[Katman]

I'm not on the "katman hate" wagon mate, but I think you stepped over the line there!



I don't think I've even come close to the line.

While I'll accept that there's some fucked up drivers out there who seem to have no excuse other than they were dropped on their head as a baby, by far the greatest cause of animosity that a lot of car drivers have towards motorcyclists is due to the number of times they've seen motorcyclists squeezing through gaps and collecting wing mirrors along the way, cutting across in front of cars mid corner, lane splitting at warp factor 9 and a myriad of other antics that go towards making us look like a bunch of clowns.

If there were only cars on the road I'd say "go for gold, lets have one big demolition derby and the last car left rolling is the winner".

Trouble is, we're on motorcycles - and motorcycles don't feature very well in demolition derbies.

[owner]

hey katman, Im on the wagon where do you get off !. My bike is better than yours end of story no comebacks!

[Usarka]

I'm sorry it's all my fault.

I filtered past a car at the lights and took off reasonably quickly to clear the traffic. My actions no doubt caused this person to try to kill you.

My deepest and sincerist apologies.

[UberRhys]

Fucked if I know mate. Any time someone threatens your life you're bound to get upset about it.


There's plenty of haters out there. Just stay away wherever possible and let them self destruct.

Thats gold, nice action and Merry Christmas...lol

[TOTO]

Get some good quality porn and get about an hour of tugging in there - should be right as rain after that :yes:

the problem is its very hard to turn the pages of a magazine on the treaffic lights because of the padded gloves, let alone watch a nice movie on the ipod coz I cant press the buttons properly:lol:. On top of that the gloves don't feel very good on my "social agenda":( so its not gonna help much I reakon. Maybe if I have a nice sexy pic :drool:attached to my bike key that will help:banana:. Good thinkind there:2thumbsup McJim.

[Mikkel]

I don't think I've even come close to the line.

While I'll accept that there's some fucked up drivers out there who seem to have no excuse other than they were dropped on their head as a baby, by far the greatest cause of animosity that a lot of car drivers have towards motorcyclists is due to the number of times they've seen motorcyclists squeezing through gaps and collecting wing mirrors along the way, cutting across in front of cars mid corner, lane splitting at warp factor 9 and a myriad of other antics that go towards making us look like a bunch of clowns.

If there were only cars on the road I'd say "go for gold, lets have one big demolition derby and the last car left rolling is the winner".

Trouble is, we're on motorcycles - and motorcycles don't feature very well in demolition derbies.

While I agree that the behaviour of some bikers is bound to cause other motorists concern, grief and anger I don't buy it for a second that this is the cause of people trying intentionally to hit motorcycles!

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have never in my life wanted for anyone (car or bike) to crash no matter how much of an idiot they have behaved like. There's been occassions where I've thought that they should never again be allowed behind a wheel or a set of handlebars - but there is a certain difference between those two attitudes.

It happens that people in road rage gets out of their cars and start an altercation - but it's very rare that the same people actually drive into eachother on purpose.
I think the blame for this disturbing behaviour is more likely grounded in people growing up with less and less appreciation and respect for other beings. Sometimes it can be drug fueled aggression (steroids, P, speed, etc) and some people are just psychopaths regardless...

[Katman]

While I agree that the behaviour of some bikers is bound to cause other motorists concern, grief and anger I don't buy it for a second that this is the cause of people trying intentionally to hit motorcycles!



Unfortunately Mikkel, I have to say you're quite wrong. An imbalanced car driver who has had their wing mirror recently removed by a motorcyclist riding like a clown is the very sort to intentionally swerve toward an overtaking motorcycle or tailgate a motorcycle in an effort to intimidate them. I'm sure most don't plan to actually hit the motorcycle but if they can cause the motorcycle to have an accident and yet not be directly implicated then they will quite happily go down that path.

[Mikkel]

Unfortunately Mikkel, I have to say you're quite wrong. An imbalanced car driver who has had their wing mirror recently removed by a motorcyclist riding like a clown is the very sort to intentionally swerve toward an overtaking motorcycle or tailgate a motorcycle in an effort to intimidate them. I'm sure most don't plan to actually hit the motorcycle but if they can cause the motorcycle to have an accident and yet not be directly implicated then they will quite happily go down that path.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me.
However, if you're going to use absolutes like right and wrong, please make sure you chuck in a couple of references to one authority or another that will back your claim. Otherwise you're just voicing your own opinion - and we all know what opinions are like...

Furthermore, I think you should pay more attention to what you're writing. My point was along the lines that a balanced being wouldn't intentionally try to harrass another motorist just because they had been bahving like a dick. There will always be a cause for people being imbalanced (dropped on the head as a kid, drugs, psychological issues, etc.) and if they are indeed imbalanced they shouldn't be allowed to operate a motorvehicle to begin with.

[devnull]

Spot on Mikkel...

Sounds like it sucks to live on planet Katman though... think I'll stick to Earth

[Pixie]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

Oh,so it's ok then

Thanks for the clarification,Krapman

[sprag]

but i half agree with katman, I am not saying every cage driver is out to get me or anyone else, but people do sterotype everyone else.
Its not only bikes, I see an L plate with an asian at the wheel in a car and I run a mile because I think they are bad drivers because of what has happen in the past, now this person could be the best learner driver ever but because I have had a few run in with others that were not so good I will keep out of there way (both on a bike and in a car) infact i get rather mad at them.

Now if you have some boy racer or mad as holden/ford driver in there V8 and you lane split in front of them to close to there pride and joy or you over take them/cut them off etc then they get pissed, they may go after you, now lets say you loose this "mad man" then what happens to the next biker that comes along who might play by all the rules, this mad man is going to see red because of what happen in the past, and just to show he is still a man he might do some really dumb things to the new rider.

Now I am not saying this happens 100 percent of the time, it may only happen .25% of the time, but it does happen, everyone gets pissed off at someone on the road, I know i have yelled a few times in my helmet at people cutting me off etc.

There are a few really bad riders out there (however they think they are hot shit) that give others a bad name, all that has to happen is 1 of those bad riders f**ks off someone and the next rider can get a nasty suprise.

[Dutchee]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have never in my life wanted for anyone (car or bike) to crash no matter how much of an idiot they have behaved like. There's been occassions where I've thought that they should never again be allowed behind a wheel or a set of handlebars - but there is a certain difference between those two attitudes.

I've wished death by accident on one person. There might have been more than one person in the car, so then it would've been death to the bloody lot of them. I'll never know if my wish came true, but it'd be nice to think so.
Scenario: riding down the hill toward Orewa from up north. It was raining, traffic sucked big time, so we were splitting - quietly riding along. I was in front of my husband (on his bike). As we came to the last corner (something like Old North Road is on the right, just before the bridge), a cage decided he was pissed off that we were moving and they weren't so he decided to force me onto the other side of the road.
I wasn't happy about that as it was a blind corner and I was petrified someone would be coming the other way. Neither of us could see oncoming traffic, he must've been hoping I'd be flattened.
I was worried as he'd pulled that stunt on me, what was he going to do about hubby behind me. Luckily we were going to my olds, so I could stop and get the heart rate back to normal after that.
Only reason could think of was the fact that we were moving and cars weren't. Who's fault is that? Stoopid bloody cagers - more bikes means less traffic hold ups and on January 1/2, expect queues of traffic and allow time for it.
Prior to coming up to this guy there was no sign saying he was a psychopath.

[Mikkel]

I hear what you guys are saying - I just don't agree that a sane and well balanced person would ever indulge into this kind of behaviour.

And fair enough to wish death upon someone in the heat of the moment (adrenaline can make anyone loose their humanity truth be told) - but if you still wish death upon them after you've gotten your heart rate under control and regained your sense and normal perspective then... meh!

That being said I have certainly had my cases of having a bad wish to lay someone out because of their idiotic driving behaviour on several occasions. I just hope they learn the lesson eventually without anyone getting hurt (and yes, I am both blonde and naivé!).

[delusionz]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

My only problem is that Katman hasn't clarified whether he was talking about my antics or the antics of motorcyclists in general or a handful of motorcyclists that ruin it for the rest...

He's just left that up to assumption just to stirr everyone up and move people away from my point that some accidents may not be accidents at all and to look out for these fuckwits... I think the fuckwits are the cagers trying to hit bikers, not the bikers who have every right to be upset when their life is threatened by other motorists additional to being unprotected and riding on a hard surface.

[PrincessBandit]

sorry delusionz, but I don't see how you can think Katman was pointing the finger at you on this occasion. I didn't read anything in your post to indicate that you were doing anything stupid (unless it was prior to your account of the tailgating and omitted for obvious reasons). Therefore common sense would suggest that his reference to "certain" riders does not necessarily indicate a personal poke at you.

[sprag]

sorry delusionz, but I don't see how you can think Katman was pointing the finger at you on this occasion. I didn't read anything in your post to indicate that you were doing anything stupid (unless it was prior to your account of the tailgating and omitted for obvious reasons). Therefore common sense would suggest that his reference to "certain" riders does not necessarily indicate a personal poke at you.

Slaps Princessbandit and runs off,
It was nice to meet you yesterday :P

[Racer X]

Just out of interest, was the car a fairly new, blue hatchback? - Possibly VW

[delusionz]

sorry delusionz, but I don't see how you can think Katman was pointing the finger at you on this occasion. I didn't read anything in your post to indicate that you were doing anything stupid (unless it was prior to your account of the tailgating and omitted for obvious reasons). Therefore common sense would suggest that his reference to "certain" riders does not necessarily indicate a personal poke at you.

My bad, guess I take it personally too much when my threads turn to shit :P

[PrincessBandit]

Slaps Princessbandit and runs off,
It was nice to meet you yesterday :P

I can take a slap or two. Was nice to meet you too, along with Donor and gijoe1313. Hopefully more rides on the cards some time with you guys!

[sprag]

I can take a slap or two. Was nice to meet you too, along with Donor and gijoe1313. Hopefully more rides on the cards some time with you guys!

With your speeding and getting your knee down at 180K's i dont think so women LOL

Ok, soooooooooooooo kidding PrincessBandit is a good rider :whistle:

[mstriumph]

As I have been saying, this is the sort of shit that certain motorcyclists have imposed upon us all by their fuckwit antics. IT IS TIME FOR AN ATTITUDE CHANGE. Believe me, if it comes down to car drivers versus motorcyclists - THE MOTORCYCLIST WILL LOSE.

erm :confused: you wouldn't have happened to be driving ''some white legacy wagon with a rego plate starting with C .......on the motorway heading out west a few nights ago '' tailgating a kb'er on a 250cc ....??

hmmmm?

[Swoop]

An imbalanced car driver who has had their wing mirror recently removed by a motorcyclist is the very sort to intentionally swerve toward an overtaking motorcycle or tailgate a motorcycle in an effort to intimidate them.
Good to know. If a mirrorectomy has been performed and the cager is now looking twice for bikes... good.
IF said cager is missing a mirror and actively/agressively attempts to intimidate a bike, this means that they have still not learnt their lesson and so we now proceed to stage two of the proceedure...

[Katman]

Good to know. If a mirrorectomy has been performed and the cager is now looking twice for bikes... good.
IF said cager is missing a mirror and actively/agressively attempts to intimidate a bike, this means that they have still not learnt their lesson and so we now proceed to stage two of the proceedure...

And that is precisely the bullshit attitude we need to get rid of.

[Swoop]

And that is precisely the bullshit attitude we need to get rid of.
It's here to stay, sonny.

Fear is an active ingredient of the learning process.

Best you head back to the politically correct, tree-hugging niceness of the imaginary world.

EDIT: The reply, where you quoted this post, was very quickly deleted katman...

[devnull]

And that is precisely the bullshit attitude we need to get rid of.

Yeah, because it's not like cagers pull the same shit with other cagers, or attack truck drivers with hammers, it it? :tugger:

Someone attempting to kill me is likely to piss me off... greatly!