From basic handling to full in 3 months (approx)

[Tank]

Wahoo !!!:2thumbsup on Friday I passed my full - only a few months after I passed my basic handling.

So now I am fully licensed and can enjoy the open road at open road speeds without having to watch for smokey - not to mention that the M50 looks a hell of a lot nicer without the "L" plates.

And no more having to give the full story whenever I pulled up and was asked "is that a 250" - ummmm no. The last comment was from the testing officer who looked at me then the bike and back to me and went "you're kidding right!".

Still I passed and look forward to getting some more miles under the bike.

Thanks to all for all their help - esp the guys at the Wednesday night mentor rides - Id still be on my learners if it wasnt for you guys!

[TOTO]

Wahoo !!!:2thumbsup on Friday I passed my full - only a few months after I passed my basic handling.

So now I am fully licensed and can enjoy the open road at open road speeds without having to watch for smokey - not to mention that the M50 looks a hell of a lot nicer without the "L" plates.

And no more having to give the full story whenever I pulled up and was asked "is that a 250" - ummmm no. The last comment was from the testing officer who looked at me then the bike and back to me and went "you're kidding right!".

Still I passed and look forward to getting some more miles under the bike.

Thanks to all for all their help - esp the guys at the Wednesday night mentor rides - Id still be on my learners if it wasnt for you guys!


Can we by any chance get the whole story from you not being on 250 to just 3 months for passing the full? bloody great , but please share your secret. dont just tease us :corn:

[Drum]

Congrats on getting your full. Take it easy out there because a piece of paper won't keep you safe. We all still have so much to learn.

[Luckylegs]

Wahoo !!!:2thumbsup on Friday I passed my full - only a few months after I passed my basic handling.

Holy Crap Batman, how'd he do that then...

I dont know Robin, Im sure this must be some kind of mistake, perhaps another sinister plot by the Joker to make the good people of Gotham believe they can get a full license quicker than is actually possible....

[Edbear]

Goodonyer! Congrats!

(Now if we could just get a few more of the young ones around here to have the same maturity and get their licences...:yes:)

[99TLS]

well done, as for l plate my neighbour has one on his 2008 harley(1530cc ?) looks :weep:

[Tank]

Can we by any chance get the whole story from you not being on 250 to just 3 months for passing the full? bloody great , but please share your secret. dont just tease us :corn:


Holy Crap Batman, how'd he do that then...

I dont know Robin, Im sure this must be some kind of mistake, perhaps another sinister plot by the Joker to make the good people of Gotham believe they can get a full license quicker than is actually possible....

pretty easy actually - this is from the thread I posted a while back:
I thought that I would drop a note to all outlining my experience applying for dispensation from the graduated licensing system.

I am currently on my learners (have been for 2.5 months), have a reasonably clean licence (although far from perfect), I am aged mid thirties and was looking for a cruiser.

I had a really good call with the people at LTNZ who were REALLY helpful. I got some additional info from them that will help others who are thinking of applying.

1. If you are a young -un don’t bother unless you are really big or tall, they have too many young people in accidents, and as such look at these a lot harder – you really have to have a good reason – otherwise you will be declined.

2. If you are looking for a bike with a “Z” in the model you will be declined regardless of age, reason, whatever – so don’t even try.

I wrote in saying a 250 on the open road was silly. They wrote back asking me how much time I spend in 100kph zones, why can’t I use a car (that I had previously), and what am I looking for, and what experience do I have (being that I have been riding 2.5 months).

I emailed them my answers (see below):

Make, Model and registration of current bike?
I ride a Suzuki GN250 registration #ABC!@#

Make, Model and registration of the bike I am looking to purchase?
I have not as yet identified the exact bike that I wish to purchase as I am unable to test ride them on my current licence. I have however spoken to numerous suppliers and biking mentors about this and they are unanimous in their recommendation of a mid-size cruiser bike. I have no intention of purchasing a sports bike or the like. Examples would be a Suzuki C50 or M50.

If I am successful in this application is it possible to get dispensation to test ride before having the licence ‘linked’ to the specific bike I am approved to purchase?

What travel options did I have prior to my class 6 licence and why cannot I use this now?
Prior to my class 6 licence I had a car of my own, but I have since sold this (Ferrari #ABC!@#). As such my bike is my only form of transport.

My wife has a car (another Ferrari #ABC!@#) but she uses this for her work and the children, and this is rarely available to me. There is also a Nissan registered to my name (a Porsche #ABC!@#) – however this is my sons and he no longer lives at home. As such I have no access to this car either.

Photo of me on my current bike:

Please find following.

[insert pic of Brad Pitt]

Photo of me on the bike that I wish to purchase?
I am unable to provide this immediately as this bike has not as yet been identified. I could either find the bike I wish to purchase and send you a picture for your approval, or I could take a picture of each of the bikes that could be on my ‘shopping list’ – please let me know which you would prefer.

Evidence of riding experience?
I had passed my learners whilst on the UK approximately 7 years ago (I cannot find a copy sorry). In New Zealand I ride every day as this is my primary form of transport. I also attend a mentor group where more experience riders provide training Wednesday evenings for approximately 2.5 hours (BIG UPS TO BIG DOG AND CO). For clarification this is not a group that just rides around town – we have a dedicated area (large carpark) where we have lessons / training on items such as emergency braking, counter steering, bike maintenance, riding in wet, general safety etc).

Other than that – I am a daily rider, with the majority of my riding done on the open road.

Estimated amount of time I ride on open road (100kph zones) and reasons why?
I ride in 100 KPH zones almost every day. To and from my office does not generally require riding in 100KPH zones, but all most other actions do.
Examples:
• I ride on the Northern Motorway (and over the harbour bridge) for meetings / training / shopping approximately twice a week. (as an aside such a small bike on the harbour bridge is dangerous when windy)
• I rode in Rodney district approximately 4 times a week for at least an hour to meet friends etc.
• I ride 5 hours return approximately every 3rd weekend to Cambridge and back to visit family (I cannot take the car as my immediate family generally do not come down for this.)
• We live at the very top of the East Coast Bays – as such a large percentage of ‘general life’ trips require riding on the motorway




They confirmed that I will be granted dispensation in the following:
• I will be given dispensation for date XX to test ride bikes upto 800cc as long as it does not have a “Z” in the model.
• Once I have selected a bike I will be given dispensation for that bike only
• I am then allowed to sit my full licence (ONE TIME ONLY) – if I pass I no longer have to have learners or restricted restrictions – I go directly to my full licence - Do no pass go, do not collect $200 – sweeeeet
o However if I fail I have to remain under the constraints of the learners / restricted with the exception of the larger bike dispensation.

All in all they were very helpful, professional and a pleasure to deal with. They are not fools, so I would not try to ‘get one past them’, but, if you have a serious and reasonable case to put forward they are extremely helpful.

- Tank
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[Tank]

Congrats on getting your full. Take it easy out there because a piece of paper won't keep you safe. We all still have so much to learn.

Understood - I know that its not telling me that I'm a riding god - but it allows me the freedom to go 100km (as I did anyway) and not have to rush home for 10pm (esp. when I have been out having a few beers - I hate having to rush when 1/2 pissed).














the beer comment was a joke for all the PC nana's

[Disco Dan]

or just ride around on wrong license on a big bike with "Z" on both sides and hope.

Worked so far for past 2 years. :whistle:

License next month though.. :niceone:

[EnzoYug]

Holy Crap Batman, how'd he do that then...

I dont know Robin, Im sure this must be some kind of mistake, perhaps another sinister plot by the Joker to make the good people of Gotham believe they can get a full license quicker than is actually possible....


He's old, articulate, and did a course... good job on 'working' the system! Hu-Rah!
(old being 25+ :P)

[Drum]

I don't get the "Z" part. Why can't you ride a bike with a Z in the model?

[Luckylegs]

pretty easy actually - this is from the thread I posted a while back:......

Very Interesting read, well done "Young" :whistle: man.

[Luckylegs]

I don't get the "Z" part. Why can't you ride a bike with a Z in the model?

...Cos Zed's dead baby... Zed's dead

[sAsLEX]

They confirmed that I will be granted dispensation in the following:
• I will be given dispensation for date XX to test ride bikes upto 800cc as long as it does not have a “Z” in the model.



CBR600RR
GSXR750
749
675

lol they are so naive!

[Tank]

He's old, articulate, and did a course... good job on 'working' the system! Hu-Rah!
(old being 25+ :P)


Enough with the Old comments - Im only 37 FFS!!!!! :baby:

BTW - I didnt do a course - thats not a requirement.

[Tank]

CBR600RR
GSXR750
749
675

lol they are so naive!

I gave the "Z" as an indicator - they have a full list of bikes there (ie - they knew the full model number of my bike - not just M50. And they have "X"'s against the ones that they think will assist in killing you.

So they are probally not as niave as I made out. Sorry to disapoint!

[Badger8]

Awesome to hear you got the full Tank. :niceone:

Hoping to follow in the dispensation footsteps before too long myself... Just gotta scratch up some dosh first, may as well keep adding to experience and age till i can actually afford to act on it should i get one :)

[Big Dog]

Good work Mr Tank.

[skidMark]

I don't get the "Z" part. Why can't you ride a bike with a Z in the model?


they have a thing against ninjas, if it has ninja in it it's considered FAST and they will not allow it. as tank said in an earlier post the Z was just an example of many of thier "black list"....hmmm pun at tank ? lol

and yet they approved my mate to have a 2004 gsxr600....but would not allow him a zx6r kawasaki....a less powerful bike.

0arbreaka.....R.I.P.......<<<<< the result.

and no i'm not taking the piss about ninja etc. things being "fast"

stupid guys in suits that are 60 and know nothing. fucking idiots.

[jade]

Im looking into getting a dispensation to skip my restricted test and go straight to my full
Reason being that Ive never upgraded from my learners cuz Im happy with my 2 stroke 250's on the road..
But now Im moving oversea's I'd like to get my full before I go
Have been riding for 5 + years as only form of transport... Im hoping theyll let me get away with this,
Tank, who is it I need to write to ???

[Tank]

Im looking into getting a dispensation to skip my restricted test and go straight to my full
Reason being that Ive never upgraded from my learners cuz Im happy with my 2 stroke 250's on the road..
But now Im moving oversea's I'd like to get my full before I go
Have been riding for 5 + years as only form of transport... Im hoping theyll let me get away with this,
Tank, who is it I need to write to ???

Pop into any AA center and pick up a dispensation form. Takes 20 business days.

[gtr boy]

gunna try as well ........................

[90s]

and yet they approved my mate to have a 2004 gsxr600....but would not allow him a zx6r kawasaki....a less powerful bike.

0arbreaka.....R.I.P.......<<<<< the result.

Skid I don't think the 'old blokes' can take culpability from this - do you really think that having a gixxer not a zx6r has any bearing there?

Bikes on the no list have a history of being in more accidents. No one needs to ride a super-sports. A dispensation is about allowing people to ride for a purpose, which they have to articulate. That the system allows people to make a case which will be assessed on an individual basis is something we should be grateful for. Its better than most countrues. But the system can only protect us all to a degree.