argh $%*(

[ital916]

Haha for all you peeps looking for a bin story this ain't it. Kinda like a life lesson/success story. Had a brown pants moment today, i'd classify it as a category 5 brown pants moment, one where your anus tightens so much it collapses in on itself and creates a black hole!

Anyway, was riding with some mates today, cruisin to mission bay. They were well ahed as I'm a nana and as I'm a super noob was taking it easy. They went thorugh a corner as a pretty fast speed so i was like sweet deals can't be bad, but still My entry speed was round fifty k. Yes i know, i'm a daredevil :bleh:. What i didn't know was this should have been posted as a fucking 15k corner cos it tightened up instantly.

I ride pretty defensively and i should have predicted a tightening corner but i didn't, put it down to being a noob. Anyway i was about to do what all noobs do, i touched the front brake. NOOOO i remembered all the good people i have met kicking my ass over making that mistake last time, so i went for gold and found out that no my bike will not fall over even though it sure as hell feels like it. I basically had to plant it on it's side. JUST! made the corner without going over the centre line...lucky no oncoming traffic. Anyway that has got to be the most scary *and yes in some way exhilarating moment of my life*. A lesson learned and one that shall not be repeated that in suburbia the roads can do all sorts of weird shit!

So from now on, on top of my defensive riding i will add another layer of defensiveness lol.

Thats bout it. Ride safe all.


Now to wash my riding pants lol jokes

[TOTO]

had the same moment today but I DID slamon the front brake and almost ran off the road on an 25 k corner. Was explained aferwords what you just said, so hopefull today was the last time. thatnks for sharing:niceone:

[quickbuck]

Okay Drider87,
Firstly well done on the save. Top effort for discovering that fear can be turned into excitement.

Now, as for working out if a corner is going to tighten or not, have you been taught about vanishing points?

[xwhatsit]

You don't have to worry about the bike falling over -- centrifugal force will hold it up. In fact that's why you lean, so the bike doesn't fall over the other side. I used to have the same sensation, but it was easily fixed by looking all the way through the corner. This means your head is flat, so your inner ear doesn't tell your brain you're about to fall over.

You did the right thing. If you ever get that arse-clenching feeling, just do what you did again -- grab a little bit of throttle (when you have no throttle, the bike will also feel like it's about to fall into the corner) so the bike steadies out, and the bike will take you through, no sweat. If your pegs start scraping, then you should be a little more worried, but I bet you're nowhere near getting them down yet.

[homer]

oh i saw dri rider and even i thought of another bin story

Thought about the book

[homer]

Haha for all you peeps looking for a bin story this ain't it. Kinda like a life lesson/success story. Had a brown pants moment today, i'd classify it as a category 5 brown pants moment, one where your anus tightens so much it collapses in on itself and creates a black hole!

Anyway, was riding with some mates today, cruisin to mission bay. They were well ahed as I'm a nana and as I'm a super noob was taking it easy. They went thorugh a corner as a pretty fast speed so i was like sweet deals can't be bad, but still My entry speed was round fifty k. Yes i know, i'm a daredevil :bleh:. What i didn't know was this should have been posted as a fucking 15k corner cos it tightened up instantly.

I ride pretty defensively and i should have predicted a tightening corner but i didn't, put it down to being a noob. Anyway i was about to do what all noobs do, i touched the front brake. NOOOO i remembered all the good people i have met kicking my ass over making that mistake last time, so i went for gold and found out that no my bike will not fall over even though it sure as hell feels like it. I basically had to plant it on it's side. JUST! made the corner without going over the centre line...lucky no oncoming traffic. Anyway that has got to be the most scary *and yes in some way exhilarating moment of my life*. A lesson learned and one that shall not be repeated that in suburbia the roads can do all sorts of weird shit!

So from now on, on top of my defensive riding i will add another layer of defensiveness lol.

Thats bout it. Ride safe all.


Now to wash my riding pants lol jokes

Even i do it go for the front

know i shouldnt and still do occasionally

so what your saying is that you didnt bin this time but you had a lot of potential of binning
As for the brown pants . i dont get it anymore
i just ride and everything fucks off before i get there
when it dosnt ill let you know

[quickbuck]

This means your head is flat, so your inner ear doesn't tell your brain you're about to fall over.

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Oh, yeah, and that.
Drider take a look at the fast guys, even if the bike is cranked over all the way to the clip-ons their eyes are still level, and looking at the exit of the bend.

As for pegs down, if you do that, then it is time to start moving the bum off the seat a little, and put yourself under the bike.
Well, you actually should do this way before you start to grind stuff away. Both in riding progression, and before the corner.

[EJK]

Haha for all you peeps looking for a bin story this ain't it. Kinda like a life lesson/success story. Had a brown pants moment today, i'd classify it as a category 5 brown pants moment, one where your anus tightens so much it collapses in on itself and creates a black hole!

......................

way exhilarating moment of my life*. A lesson learned and one that shall not be repeated that in suburbia the roads can do all sorts of weird shit!

So from now on, on top of my defensive riding i will add another layer of defensiveness lol.

Thats bout it. Ride safe all.


Now to wash my riding pants lol jokes

Yep, I think everyone here (or most) had similar experience :yes:

One day when I had a bike, I was feeling all boosted up and was ready for anything.

So I find a corner. It was a 90 degree Right turn corner. I thought "Lets go for it BABY!!!!!!!!!!" and accel I went.

I leaned. Well..... I was going too fast... When I realised that I was going too fast, I slammed on brakes (Both). Rear skidding, going a bit sideways at 50kph.

By this time I was under steering and heading towards the kerb (Footpath).
A second later, I heard "BANG!!!!" and up in the air I was like a MX Freestyle biker (Well kinda :sweatdrop:...)

Luckily I did not drop the bike nor crashed into a pedestrian. Honestly, if there was a pedestrian walking at that place, that moment, I would have killed/ seriously injured a person.


From that day when I find a corner, I shouted to myself "BRAKE B$@&*!!!!!"

[Jiminy]

Thanks for sharing. Geez, I've done the 'front brake thing' so many times already :(, so far without consequences. Time to learn good practice...

[Macstar]

One day when I had a bike, I was feeling all boosted up and was ready for anything"

Once I had a bike!!! Shit man - where's your bike? What's the latest?

[Renegade]

reading the title of your thread i thought awe man, not again, your lucky day huh

[ital916]

The only bin i've ever had due to me being a noob was the same situation, looks like i learned from it. Haha nice homer...yes i could have binned but i didn't! The thought of macstar ripping my head off deterred me lol

[vifferman]

Meh.
I brake in corners if I feel like it.
Like them others said - look through the corner, not at it.
This is the most important thing to learn as a noob! The bike will go where you are looking. This applies to everything, not just corners.
When you're riding along in a straight line, and there's an object (pothole, piece of wood, patch of oil, squashed possum) in your path, if you stare at it, you will run it over.
So, if a corner appears to be too tight, you panic, look at the corner, and where you think you will end up, and ride off the road. If instead, you come into the corner, looking through the corner and ahead for the exit point, it doesn't matter if it tightens up (as long as you aren't going insanely fast). Of course, there's always time to give the road surface a quick scan to look for dead possums and stuff, then fix your gaze ahead of you. :niceone:

[MSTRS]

A 15kph corner in suburbia? I don't think so.
With a bit of experience, you will be able to approximately double a posted corner speed safely. It takes a LOT of skill to triple that speed. And good tyres.
However, good on you for remembering the 'no heavy frontal braking' thing and leaning harder to compensate your road speed.

[xwhatsit]

A 15kph corner in suburbia? I don't think so.
I think he might be talking about these corners. Right at the end of Tamaki Drive, you can turn left onto.... Cliff Rd? You go up this steep hill, then you can either carry on straight ahead, over some speed bumps, or turn right.

If you turn right there's immediately this really cool right/left combination, heading up hill, with terrific camber. Both seem about 90 degrees. Really tight, too. Not hard to get your pegs scraping there without getting anywhere near 50kph (the limit), as the compression because of the slope/camber gets you as well. If they put up a sign I'd guess it would be 15-25kph. It really is that tight, but it's easy to see that before you get there; but Drider sounds like he isn't looking ahead very far at all.

Near the beginning of the St Heliers GP, that :D A neat string of urban corners that are lots of fun dead on 50kph.

[ital916]

I make a point of looking ahead through corners xerxes, if only i could remember the route then i would be able to show you guys, but yeah it was tight. I will learn from this, im guessing if the vanishing point is very close it's getting tighter?

[MSTRS]

.... im guessing if the vanishing point is very close it's getting tighter?

No. Only that it is tight. If the VP 'moves' towards you, it's getting tighter.
And it does sound like you are not looking far enough ahead. In a really tight corner, your focal point should be beyond the VP. Or recognise the signs and slow down earlier. Spotting a potential problem before your reaction time is used up avoids bins.

[quickbuck]

Like he said.

[ital916]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

[xwhatsit]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

No, not really -- it's something all motorcyclists have to learn at the beginning. Takes a little while before you pick up the knack of doing it automatically but you'll get it.

Yep, keep looking as far ahead as you possibly can. When you can see more road ahead, look further.

[discotex]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

Woohoo it's not another "I binned it thread" :yes:

You had me worried for a second there.

Physics usually dictates that braking on a corner is a BAD move. You seem to have learned that one from before so good on you.

Just to ram it home... If a rider brakes without losing grip then they could have just leaned over more (exactly what you did). If they lean more and bin as a result then braking wouldn't have helped as they were in far too hot anyway.

As long as there's lean angle left always use that. Better yet, brake more than you think you need to while upright, apex late, then get back on the power earlier.

And remember that riding with mates better than you who don't take your skill level into account will get your into a world of trouble.

[Padmei]

Yeah but what about corners that are blind? I have been around a couple of left hand blind corners onthe same road relatively slowly but each time underestimate the tightness of them & end up on the other side of the road.

Both times there was no oncoming traffic but had there been I would have been toast. I understand about hitting the right apex etc but what about when theyre blind?
Any help appreciated

[Grub]

Yeah but what about corners that are blind? I have been around a couple of left hand blind corners onthe same road relatively slowly but each time underestimate the tightness of them & end up on the other side of the road.

One of my defences for that is not to commit to a corner's apex until I can see the exit line. What that means in practice is holding outside of the apex and tipping in late, that almost always results in the "classic racing line" where you are then able to apply power progressively before you have clipped the apex.