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Deviant Esq
12th January 2008, 08:19
Okay, we all know about the 250 market being terribly over priced, given that most are nearly 20 years old, but I think this one takes the cake as most over priced I've seen.

Trademe Link here. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135381140.htm?key=87005)

How's $10,495 sound for a 1990 FZR250?! :eek5:

Words fail me. Someone go 'deal to' that dealer...

Edit: Although the price now reads $5495 it did initially read $10,495, hence my post.

MidnightMike
12th January 2008, 08:32
I think its the wrong price they've put on, since it says 'The original R1', and an fzr250 is far from that.

disenfranchised
12th January 2008, 08:34
They must be expecting people to pay around $5k for the "Carbon Fibre muffler, Titanium Headers"

Ohh...it's started a trend...here's another one here (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135021369.htm?key=105125)

HornetBoy
12th January 2008, 08:39
HA surely thats a stuff up 10k has got to be the most expnsive 250 around even more than one of those 07/08 ninjas:blink:

Meanie
12th January 2008, 08:43
F**k I went in there to look to look for a 250 for Mrs Meanie and most of thier 250 range was around 5 to 6 grand :oi-grr: So I promptly told them I could buy a brand new Kawasaki GPX for six thousand with a two year warranty

dave_a
12th January 2008, 08:49
They must be expecting people to pay around $5k for the "Carbon Fibre muffler, Titanium Headers"

Ohh...it's started a trend...here's another one here (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135021369.htm?key=105125)


Doesnt suprise me that place is a complete rip off I will never go back there, Plus there service has alot left to be desired aswell

Deviant Esq
12th January 2008, 08:55
I think its the wrong price they've put on, since it says 'The original R1', and an fzr250 is far from that.
That's what's worse - I don't think there's any mistake in the price, just more sales hype. They know the R1 didn't come out until 1998... they're just trying to say this is the predecessor to the R1. Which it isn't, the FZR1000 is. Small bikes are trying to look like their bigger brothers, not the other way around! Besides, you can buy R1s off dealers for less than what they're asking! They're listed in the same page as that mighty FZR250.

I wonder how much that bike actually owes them? Can't be more than $1500 landed and complied etc. I wonder if they'd register it for you at over $10k, or if you'd still have to pay it over and above?

imdying
12th January 2008, 09:28
They've an R1 advertisted for the same money with the same description, probably just an honest mistake.

dave_a
12th January 2008, 09:33
talked to him it was a misprint 5495 is the price

Deviant Esq
12th January 2008, 09:42
talked to him it was a misprint 5495 is the price
That makes more sense, even though that's still too much for a 20 year old 250 IMO. I was going to email the seller saying that about half his asking price might be more appropriate, but yeah.

Awfully convenient "misprint" though, if you ask me. ;)

onearmedbandit
12th January 2008, 10:17
Why? They know that they could never sell that bike for that much, and they know it would've damaged their reputation by letting it slip. Misprints in advertising do happen, I know as I have spent over 10yrs advertising vehicles. Never forget the time I let an 3yr old XR8 Falcon be advertised for $3995!

The Pastor
12th January 2008, 10:21
I have a nice 250 for sale :)

imdying
12th January 2008, 10:41
It's not like we're talking about Red Baron :rofl:

HornetBoy
12th January 2008, 15:05
It's not like we're talking about Red Baron :rofl:

YEA ! :oi-grr: they are absolutely shocking ,their ninjas are so highly priced its not funny,makes me glad i dont live in auckland

homer
12th January 2008, 15:24
um the trade me ad says 5495 asking price

so its tidy bike if you got it for say 5300

Yes 250 are over priced
especially when you pay 5 or 6 k
and you can get a 750 of similar age at the same money or cheaper

but hey
do u want to get a market like the car market
youll be selling 5 year old bikes and getting about 4k for them with like 20 000 km on the clock
yeah really cheap for everyone ,but trades will be shot
be happy the prices stay up ,its better in the long run

James Deuce
12th January 2008, 15:34
The only people keeping the price inflated are the people paying the price. If informed by someone you have asked for advice, that a 20 year old bike isn't worth $6k, don't go and pay $6k for it the next day. Simple.

gunnyrob
12th January 2008, 16:50
ooo ooo oooh! If you look really quickly there's a 1999 Tiger going for 10 million in the dirt bike section....

Deviant Esq
12th January 2008, 17:32
um the trade me ad says 5495 asking price
Ah, they must've changed it. Initially it said $10,495.

Still, there's a CB250 Hornet there for $8999, and I don't think that one's a misprint. Red Baron, funnily enough. ;)

Maffoo
12th January 2008, 21:53
i was shocked at the prices of 250cc bikes when i first starting looking for one

hows $2000 for a 1989 GN250? i saw that sell !!
its not around now, was on trademe ... i nearly fell off my seat


& you can definitely get a bigger bike for the same or less money than a 250
a 1988 750 katana in awesome nick sold recently on TM for $1800

(i like old bikes in case you cant tell)

in the end, i bought a basketcase & rebuilt it
it may still owe me 2 grand but its mint & i have a whole spare bike for parts :D

James Deuce
12th January 2008, 21:58
in the end, i bought a basketcase & rebuilt it
it may still owe me 2 grand but its mint & i have a whole spare bike for parts :D
I reckon that's the way to do it and you get way more out of your 250 experience doing that. My first road bike was dragged out from under a house and on the road for $700 total.

disenfranchised
10th February 2008, 10:42
It's getting worse
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-138671763.htm?key=243308

And this being a private sale too, not just a greedy dealer.
Shame on them!

Deviant Esq
10th February 2008, 10:53
The RS250s are usually much pricier than the other 250s on the market, but that's pretty excessive even for one of those.

babyblade250rr
10th February 2008, 11:06
well 250's have always been ridiculously over priced due to demand and manufacturers not making any new 250's sports bikes however with the new zxr250 available i suspect this is about to change the Hyobag won't be the only option for sports

jcupit69
10th February 2008, 11:07
Ya, the rs on trade me for 12g or what eve it is he wants is a joke. They are good but not that good!!!! If he gets that for his expect to see mine on their soon after! (Jokes, id never sell mine)
I payed $7500 for mine, and considering there are 95 zxr's on trademe for $1500 less, the extra performance and feel is worth it if youve got the $$$.
One advantage of getting a good 250 is that they generally hold their value if you look after them. So if you pay 5g for a 94 zxr now, after your 2 years, if you look after it you should be able to sell it for about that, and that gives you a nice nest egg for a bigger bike. The new bikes will lose abit of money, cus buying new always does and they dont have as much performance as the old ones, but theres a whole other forum for that, the new 1s have thier place and so do the old ones....riders choise.
Granted thow i REALLY resent paying more for a 250 than i would for a half decent 600 of 750 :oi-grr: but hey the market is what it is

Forest
10th February 2008, 15:31
It's getting worse
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-138671763.htm?key=243308

And this being a private sale too, not just a greedy dealer.
Shame on them!

I thought they stopped making RS250 bikes around 2002-2003?

Perhaps they're becoming collectible.

jcupit69
10th February 2008, 16:26
I thought they stopped making RS250 bikes around 2002-2003?

Perhaps they're becoming collectible.

Final run was 2003...they're reasonable collectable, due to the reputation, performance, last and best of the 250 2strokes (i recan best 250 period, but im biased), there racing pedegry yada yada yada, but there not made of gold like this guy seems to think, lol, i still cant believe the asking price and i ride 1!!!!

delusionz
10th February 2008, 23:41
Hence I just sold my 250cc as it was too tiny for my 6'0 frame. The inline four screamers are good fit especially the ZXR but I seriously cant be fucked paying anymore than 3k for some 20 year old bike thats been crashed just as many times and raped day in day out cause they have no power to get you anywhere fast and even if I did pay 3k look what I'd be stuck with, looking like a fool on the side of the road when it fucks out.

IMO FUCK 250cc, I'm just going to drive a car until I get my full class 6 license as I feel If I have to ride a slow uncomfortable piece of shit anyways it might aswell give me protection and music and a place to put my beers.

JMemonic
11th February 2008, 00:17
I suspect there are a couple of issues in this market, part of which is a total lack of range in the new bike market, if you take a look at the current offerings the is sod all choice unless of course you want a cruiser styled bike.

Slicksta
11th February 2008, 02:33
Okay, we all know about the 250 market being terribly over priced, given that most are nearly 20 years old, but I think this one takes the cake as most over priced I've seen.

Trademe Link here. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135381140.htm?key=87005)

How's $10,495 sound for a 1990 FZR250?! :eek5:

Words fail me. Someone go 'deal to' that dealer...

Edit: Although the price now reads $5495 it did initially read $10,495, hence my post.

Shite that is rather alot! Even for 6g i only payed 5grand for my lil CBF 250 brand new and that has a 2 year unlimited millage warranty, Granted its not a screaming 4 cylinder, but its not 18 years old either.

R6chick
11th February 2008, 05:41
Hence I just sold my 250cc as it was too tiny for my 6'0 frame. The inline four screamers are good fit especially the ZXR but I seriously cant be fucked paying anymore than 3k for some 20 year old bike thats been crashed just as many times and raped day in day out cause they have no power to get you anywhere fast and even if I did pay 3k look what I'd be stuck with, looking like a fool on the side of the road when it fucks out.

IMO FUCK 250cc, I'm just going to drive a car until I get my full class 6 license as I feel If I have to ride a slow uncomfortable piece of shit anyways it might aswell give me protection and music and a place to put my beers.

true, true, (my partner has just got his restricted and doesn't want to buy a 250 so he is wating it out aswell).
I just sold my 87' GSXR250, for $3200 i should be ashamed!!
but F*&^% I payed $3800 for it 3 years ago (being new to the road bike scene) (I felt ripped off after i brought it too!!) and only put 3 thousand not so screaming kz on it in that time. and it is a mint example believe it or not.

SVboy
11th February 2008, 07:04
Jeez Ryan,no wonder you are hanging on to the mighty suzuki-it is an appreciating asset!

Mikkel
11th February 2008, 09:00
Well, considering how many of the 250 ccm sportsbikes get's abused, neglected and thrown down the road - the few mint ones should start to become even more valuable over the next 5 years.
If nothing else the at least as collectibles.

And sure, they aren't super fast or anything - but I'd still say they're good fun!


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