F***in fairing Bolts!

[sAsLEX]

CBR600RR5

Middle fairing there is three bolts to remove to removee the cowl that sits just behind/outside the radiator....... but f**k me if it doesn't want to come off!

The bolts go into a rubber nut/grommety type thing, which is fantastically inaccessible and they tend to just spin rather than undo.

Tried levering up the bolt with a screwdriver as I unscrew it, but nup that doesn't seem to work.

Tried getting a pair of pliers in on the one nut/grommety thing I can access but nup thats not working.



Any ideas on how to undo these bolts! Without spendin money this is!

[MSTRS]

Put the appropriate fitting for the (screw head?) fastening in a power drill. Kinetic energy (or lack of) should get the bolt moving before the rubber grommet does. Now it's loose there shouldn't be a problem.

[owner]

pull the ram air covers off to get better access, lift the front up and back till the front pops then twist them out, or have you got a t bar allen key on the bolts in question? and push VERY hard on them and wind them out failing that post up on 600rr.net bound to be answers there. bike maintance whats that?

[MVnut]

And when it's apart you may be able to make some modifications so it's easier next time.

[sAsLEX]

And when it's apart you may be able to make some modifications so it's easier next time.

Yip you got that right, just trying to take all the other covers off so it might/should come off in one big piece :mellow: maybe? Well I am trying it......

and I keep smashing my head on the light in the dining room that I realise I now need to fix as well!

[owner]

Do you think the well nuts have come apart? little rubber grommets with a thread in them if so your gonna have to get behind them. tryed an impact driver?

[boomer]

press a spare finger/thumb against the back of the grommet then un tighten.

failing that.. sell it and buy a Suzuki; they don't have any problems in taking things off.. in fact they come of by themselves ;)

[sAsLEX]

Do you think the well nuts have come apart? little rubber grommets with a thread in them if so your gonna have to get behind them. tryed an impact driver?

No idea mate, got everything undone now and just trying to wriggle the airduct covers out of the airbox/tank cover and then the whole front should come off!

Else I might just use the tried and trusted Suzuki fairing removal method and go throw it into a fence somewhere!:devil2:

[sAsLEX]

Fuck me why are these airduct cover tabs so fuckin awkward to get out?

USed the power drill to "melt" out one sides top bolt which worked fine, except the hammer drill was hardly the scalpel required for this task and semi-stripped the bolt on the other side, so I can get the right hand side off now but not the left! Bloody Honda not wanting to fall apart.......

[Ixion]

Gas axe.

I hate the horrible cheap nasty bodgy way that fairings are mounted on bikes. I've NEVER seen one that is engineeringly half decent.

[sAsLEX]

I've NEVER seen one that is engineeringly half decent.

I like DZUS I think they are, which is weird as two of the say million bolts of the fairings are this type and work as designed every time!

[MVnut]

[QUOTE=Ixion;1398675]Gas axe.



Your nickname's not 'Torchy" is it ??

[sAsLEX]

Fairings off, thank fuck, now why did I take it off again?.........


So whats the best bet to replace these shitty things with
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Considering they come through the outer black fairing and into the silver bit
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Was thinking something like this which is elsewhere on the fairing, but mounting the backing might be a little difficult.....
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[sAsLEX]

Well fuck me, these stupid nuts are killing me, I got the fairing off so now I can get a decent grip on the nut/rubber thing, but even with a pair of vice grips as tight as a really tight thing (the fuckin more ridiculous by the second nut is circular not octagonal or whatever) but the bolt is so tight the nut is just spinning in the vice grips......... if I ever meet the designer who used these I will insert them through his eyes!

[boomer]

when and if you get it out, remember not to tighten up so much .. they work fine till some ham fisted queer guy with a bent eye has a play and over tightens 'em or you grind the head of when you slide your baby.


wd40 the fookah and let it soak then sell the bike and buy a yamaha.

[dino3310]

must be a knack or a tool for the job,cunty little thing i'm fustrated just thinking about it.TriBoy on line he might know how to get the little fucker.

[Bikernereid]

Leave the Suzukis alone you are the HONDA owner who can't get his shit together and sort out his bike!!


No idea mate, got everything undone now and just trying to wriggle the airduct covers out of the airbox/tank cover and then the whole front should come off!

Else I might just use the tried and trusted Suzuki fairing removal method and go throw it into a fence somewhere!:devil2:

[marty]

messers boeing and beechcraft uses 1000's of these to hold interiors on in their aircraft. the secret is 1. the screw type, and 2. how tight they are done up.

cut the rubber off around the nut with a razor blade. that's all that's stopping it coming through the hole. it sounds like someone has used the wrong pitch screw and cross threaded it.

of you want some replacements, let me know. i should have some stainless phillips head stainless screws for them too.

otherwise, you could use a rivnut (need an insert tool), or an anchor nut (need a tool to fit) or dzus fastner (need tools to fit receptacle/dzus)

[sAsLEX]

when and if you get it out

Well the nut was not spinning..... so off with the fucker..... except my pliers weren't quite up to the job...... but a pair of poly grips squeezing the pliers got through it in the end!
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So it will likely be Dzus fasteners if I can find some somewhere tomorrow....... where in North Shore? RipCO?

But there is one left to come out that isnt accessible with the pliers/poly grip combo..........

[sAsLEX]

ah fuckit...... last bolt wasnt able to be access by the pliers and after soaking overnight with crc it still wasn't budging so had to cut it off with the angle grinder....... note to self next time use something large and mettalic as a heat sink to avoid melting your pristine fairings! Was only a small bit which isn't too bad but will require some plastic welding now as it is through the hole for fastening the fairing.........


Caldwells on William Pickering seem like the best place to get DZUS fasteners but they weren't open today..........

[sAsLEX]

Well must thank Great Grandma for the hankies I got for Christmas, they were just the thing to wipe melting plastic off my soldering iron! The small issue of melted fairing bolt hole has now been rectified.

NOw all there is left to do this weekend is clean the chain and the front sprocket, clean the bike, put the bike back together, change the oil, find/break something else to do......