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Japtwin
17th February 2008, 20:12
coming back from Paeroa races today, great day by the way, came across a radar cop in probably the lamest place I have ever seen. Busy twisty road with few passing lanes but one of good length ideally placed on virtually the only straight. Guess where the cop is? Parked half way along the passing lane for christ sake! Thanks mate. So after law abiding citizens sit behind traffic for kms they get to said passing lane, let rip briefly to clear traffic and give others a similar chance to pass and hey presto, fined. What a dick.
p.s. confess its the principle that irks as wasn't exactly crawling back from Paeroa:yes:

JimO
17th February 2008, 20:34
didnt you know speed kills...crash at 100ks and you will be fine...crash at 101ks and you will die

cowboyz
17th February 2008, 20:49
dont be silly. 101 and its like you havent got a smoker. it takes 104 to kill you.

Mom
17th February 2008, 20:54
We saw two cops today on the way back from Paeroa. One on the Ngatea straights, he gave us the loveliest flash of his headlights.

The other one was just north of Oteha Valley Road, parked up and pointing his gun thing at us...we pootled past him (thanks to the car oncoming that gave the heads up)

Coyote
17th February 2008, 20:56
dont be silly. 101 and its like you havent got a smoker. it takes 104 to kill you.
Good analogy that advert isn't it? :rolleyes:

Ooo, I have a better one though, 100k is like playing Russian roulette with no bullets, each k over adds a bullet to the clip

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 21:02
Was his plate CBL700? That wanker was being a cock this morning sitting about 1 meter off my rear tire at 100 clicks and wouldnt back off till I dropped to about 40 kmhr so then he flicks on his reds and blues and ducks up the inside of a corner

Grahameeboy
17th February 2008, 21:04
Was his plate CBL700? That wanker was being a cock this morning sitting about 1 meter off my rear tire at 100 clicks and wouldnt back off till I dropped to about 40 kmhr so then he flicks on his reds and blues and ducks up the inside of a corner

Why didn't you just pull over and wave him past.

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 21:20
Why didn't you just pull over and wave him past.

Why the fuck should I ?

Is he gods gift to the world and allowed to cruise at above 100? No.

If he needed to get past a quick flick of his red and blues, I keep an eye on whats behind me, would of have moved me. But rather he thought it was important to tailgate me so his tiny penis would appear bigger to his mate in the passenger seat.

Littleman
17th February 2008, 21:23
Speed kills! Speed kills! (that right I'm mocking the people who mock that 'speed kills').

Oh sorry 'its the way we're speeding' or 'its not the speed but the manner in which we're riding'..... yeah yeah whatever.

Throw what euphemisms at it as you wish.

What? Can transcend physics laws?....common sense? So you can controll all the variables on the road?

Surely a push bike is more dangerous...

i. You share a lane with a cage and have to deal with the opposing traffic.

ii. Minimal protective gear.

iii. Tired, using excertion, less attention on the road and surroundings.

iv. No mirrors.

v. Not keeping with the flow of traffic(ie slower)

vi. Less rubber on the road.

Whats the difference.....

hmmmmm let me think.... no don't help... I can do it....

Speed?

I appreciate as bike riders a significant amount of us enjoy the blast of acceleration that bikes can give but surely such self serving statements from bikers show a lack of awareness and contribute to our finite period on the road.

Just be candid with yourself. Hey, speeds good fun but naughty!!!

Coyote
17th February 2008, 21:28
Speed kills over 9000 innocent babies each year in this country

Badger8
17th February 2008, 21:32
Good analogy that advert isn't it? :rolleyes:

Ooo, I have a better one though, 100k is like playing Russian roulette with no bullets, each k over adds a bullet to the clip

So it takes a 40 bullet revolver to lose your license. Need a mighty big one to lose your life :shifty:

(Not that i am encouraging speeding at all... you nawty little monkeys :spanking:)

xwhatsit
17th February 2008, 21:34
Speed kills over 9000 innocent babies each year in this country

But what about the baby seals? Why won't anybody think of the baby seals?

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 21:35
Good analogy that advert isn't it? :rolleyes:

Ooo, I have a better one though, 100k is like playing Russian roulette with no bullets, each k over adds a bullet to the clip

Keep the gun clean and well maintained and the heavier cylinders with the rounds in them should settle at the bottom leaving you safe!


So what they are saying is as long as you maintain your bike well you can speed?

HenryDorsetCase
17th February 2008, 21:51
Speed kills! Speed kills! (that right I'm mocking the people who mock that 'speed kills').

Oh sorry 'its the way we're speeding' or 'its not the speed but the manner in which we're riding'..... yeah yeah whatever.

Throw what euphemisms at it as you wish.

What? Can transcend physics laws?....common sense? So you can controll all the variables on the road?

Surely a push bike is more dangerous...

i. You share a lane with a cage and have to deal with the opposing traffic.

ii. Minimal protective gear.

iii. Tired, using excertion, less attention on the road and surroundings.

iv. No mirrors.

v. Not keeping with the flow of traffic(ie slower)

vi. Less rubber on the road.

Whats the difference.....

hmmmmm let me think.... no don't help... I can do it....

Speed?

I appreciate as bike riders a significant amount of us enjoy the blast of acceleration that bikes can give but surely such self serving statements from bikers show a lack of awareness and contribute to our finite period on the road.

Just be candid with yourself. Hey, speeds good fun but naughty!!!

best troll of the week so far, but a long way off the upside down forks or the tosser Skidmark one about going 180 kph round a 55k corner with knee on the ground.

I give it a B: could do better.

HenryDorsetCase
17th February 2008, 21:54
But what about the baby seals? Why won't anybody think of the baby seals?

you heard about the eskimo who took his snowmobile into the repair shop because it had something wrong with it? and the guy says "Itll take me a while to look it over" and the eskimo says "Hey no problem, I'll go for a walk" and while he is out walking sees an icecream shop, and when he gets back to the snowmobile shop the guy says "Oh, yup, you've blown a seal" and the eskimo goes "No way, Ive just eaten an icecream"

those baby seals you mean?

EnzoYug
17th February 2008, 23:22
Speed kills whales and baby foxes. I can prove it with a whiteboard and just 10 minutes of your time.
YAWN.

Crashing 'at speed' kills. Not speed. Otherwise we'd all get off those aeroplanes we love so much very very dead. Anyway, its a tired argument - I give it 1 gold star for originality.

Hitcher
18th February 2008, 07:54
The cop was just doing his job to the best of his ability within the scope of Police Standing Orders and the kit he was given. If you've got a problem with this, take it up with the law makers.

Swoop
18th February 2008, 08:00
Was his plate CBL700? That wanker was being a cock this morning sitting about 1 meter off my rear tire at 100 clicks and wouldnt back off till I dropped to about 40 kmhr
You should have flicked the spare bolt, that you keep in your steering head, over your shoulder onto his windscreen.
You do keep a spare bolt there, don't you?

like playing Russian roulette with no bullets, each k over adds a bullet to the clip
I heard about a chap who played that game... with an auto!:pinch::rolleyes:
Duh!

Okey Dokey
18th February 2008, 08:00
Getting back to the original post (and no disrespect intended to baby seals etc), that is a rotten spot for the cop to sit.

Time and again one can get caught behind a dawdler who ALWAYS floors it when there is a straight or a passing lane. Would a good cop accept there was a reason for going past if there was an evident line of traffic built up? Or would he assume everybody was a speeder except the first car?

I don't like to spend any more time than I need to on the opposite side of the road, so I blip up to maybe 120 to go by and then drop back to cruising speed. Do traffic cops want you to overtake at only 100, thus spending more time on the wrong side of the road? At that speed on a passing lane, there may be a lot of people behind you screaming and moaning, seeing their chance to get by slowpoke vanish.

CookMySock
18th February 2008, 08:11
Why didn't you just pull over and wave him past.If the pigs want people out of the way they should use the proper procedure, and not use some bullshit stand-over technique. If they use their lights I'm instantly clear of their path regardless, so USE THEM, BOYS.

What biker needs a passing lane anyway ?

DB

Mikkel
18th February 2008, 08:13
I agree, the spots where they choose to enforce are quite often very inappropriate.
And yes, it's fucking annoying with the passing lanes that nothing happens because the people in the left lane speeds up to 110 km/h and the guys in the right lane won't exceed 115 km/h... :rolleyes: -Mind you, that's not just the polices fault!


Good analogy that advert isn't it? :rolleyes:

Ooo, I have a better one though, 100k is like playing Russian roulette with no bullets, each k over adds a bullet to the clip

In a revolver the "magazine" is called the drum... A clip is for an automatic - good luck with the Russian Roulette - mind if I go last? ;)


Why the fuck should I ?

Is he gods gift to the world and allowed to cruise at above 100? No.

If he needed to get past a quick flick of his red and blues, I keep an eye on whats behind me, would of have moved me. But rather he thought it was important to tailgate me so his tiny penis would appear bigger to his mate in the passenger seat.

I'd be very very tempted to loose some speed and then just fucking slam on the brakes. Wouldn't look good if he bumped you! I think it just might make the headlines...

slopster
18th February 2008, 08:14
It says on the police website that they can't put speed cameras withen 250m of a passing lane. It doesn't say whether they can do it with a radar trap. You should have got his plate and complained. Heres the link:
http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2007/speed-enforcement-guide/

Big Dave
18th February 2008, 08:18
The cop was just doing his job to the best of his ability within the scope of Police Standing Orders and the kit he was given. If you've got a problem with this, take it up with the law makers.

The one I saw near Ngatea was doing a good job.

Completely out in the open and in full visibility - standing outside his car even - with little chance of catching anyone with half a brain - yet he was reminding everyone what was up.

Patch
18th February 2008, 08:40
It says on the police website that they can't put speed cameras withen 250m of a passing lane. It doesn't say whether they can do it with a radar trap. You should have got his plate and complained. Heres the link:
http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2007/speed-enforcement-guide/
On our way home their was a red Mitis parked halfway along one of the passing lanes :shifty:

I've seen them parked:
over broken yellow lines
on the footpath outside my daughter's school
on private property in the suburbs
- point is they'll park wherever they think is going to be the most productive. Its a business.



A big thanks to all those speeding peeps who helped clear the roads for our uneventful trip home - keep up the donations :2thumbsup

Grahameeboy
18th February 2008, 09:09
Why the fuck should I ?

Is he gods gift to the world and allowed to cruise at above 100? No.

If he needed to get past a quick flick of his red and blues, I keep an eye on whats behind me, would of have moved me. But rather he thought it was important to tailgate me so his tiny penis would appear bigger to his mate in the passenger seat.

So you let his tiny penis appear bigger then...

To me pulling over and waving him past would have cured his large penis problem.

Biggles08
18th February 2008, 09:11
Surely a push bike is more dangerous...


Actually it is...When I was in hospital for my last accident cause by someone doing exactly the opposite of speed...parked on the road :blink:, I said to the nurse that they must get a lot of motorcyclist's there - she said "We get a lot more cyclists actually!"

I was surprised but it makes sense when you think about it for all the reasons you listed. There was a bloke next to me actually who had been hit by a car...pulled out without looking (the car). He had a cage on his neck to support his spine/neck! Nice one!

I take your point littleman, however, the manner in which we are brainwashed into a dumbed down statement such as 'speed kills' actually does more damage than good. It tends to belittle all the 'real' problems that our roads throw up everyday. Everyone is only ever focused on "speeding" and this is really a symptom to a bigger problem which is the bad choices drivers make on the road ie excessive speed in the WRONG situation. EDUCATION is the REAL answer to the REAL problem...not sweeping statements such as "speed kills" with sweeping consequences for all...I want more responsibility placed back on the drivers to make mature choices, AND police to have the same responsibility to making choices for themselves as to whether in any given situation, a speeding ticket is going to make our roads safer or just make someone a bit more of a muppet!

Grahameeboy
18th February 2008, 09:11
If the pigs want people out of the way they should use the proper procedure, and not use some bullshit stand-over technique. If they use their lights I'm instantly clear of their path regardless, so USE THEM, BOYS.

What biker needs a passing lane anyway ?

DB

Ah well each to their own I guess.

Just seems crazy to allow a stubborn principle when being followed so closely (albeit it wrong) is the main hazard.

Coyote
18th February 2008, 09:19
Keep the gun clean and well maintained and the heavier cylinders with the rounds in them should settle at the bottom leaving you safe!


So what they are saying is as long as you maintain your bike well you can speed?
What I was saying that for every k you go, it's like having an extra bullet. The more k's over, the more certainty that you're going to get a bullet to the head.

It was along the lines of the current anti-speeding radio ad likening speeding to being a beekeeper. For those that haven't heard it, they say each few k over is like loosing a bit of protective clothing or his smoker and at 110k he's in the buff surrounded by bees. So at 99k, would it be like I have a flamethrower instead of a smoker? Cause each k under I should be exponentially safer shouldn't I?

Coyote
18th February 2008, 09:24
In a revolver the "magazine" is called the drum... A clip is for an automatic - good luck with the Russian Roulette - mind if I go last? ;)

I did a quick google to try and find the word I was looking for, but I just got all this NRA propaganda.

Does not knowing about guns not make me a man?

MSTRS
18th February 2008, 09:49
Getting back to the original post (and no disrespect intended to baby seals etc), that is a rotten spot for the cop to sit.

Time and again one can get caught behind a dawdler who ALWAYS floors it when there is a straight or a passing lane. Would a good cop accept there was a reason for going past if there was an evident line of traffic built up? Or would he assume everybody was a speeder except the first car?

I don't like to spend any more time than I need to on the opposite side of the road, so I blip up to maybe 120 to go by and then drop back to cruising speed. Do traffic cops want you to overtake at only 100, thus spending more time on the wrong side of the road? At that speed on a passing lane, there may be a lot of people behind you screaming and moaning, seeing their chance to get by slowpoke vanish.
Totally agree. And sitting in such a place only adds fuel to the revenue gathering side of the debate. Very few would believe that road safety is the reason in these situations. Same as sitting (obscured) at the bottom of a straight-run hill.
However, I would hazard a guess that even within the HP, it is a smallish percentage that employ these tactics, and that these Hitlers are disliked for it by their colleagues. Reflects on the whole dept and the public only see the HP as a whole.
Bad form and should not be encouraged when the real message is lost because of it.

Hitcher
18th February 2008, 09:53
Not disagreeing. But if I was an HP officer on a quota or some other form of incentivisation, I would be looking for barrels in which to shoot fish, rather than being *fair* or *reasonable* in my enforcement endeavours.

Swoop
18th February 2008, 10:07
In a revolver the "magazine" is called the drum...
It is actually the "cylinder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver)".

Mikkel
18th February 2008, 10:07
Actually it is...When I was in hospital for my last accident cause by someone doing exactly the opposite of speed...parked on the road :blink:, I said to the nurse that they must get a lot of motorcyclist's there - she said "We get a lot more cyclists actually!"

Ah, one of my favorite little gripes. Well, there are a lot more cyclists than motorcyclists on the roads. Of course they're likely to receive more injured bicycles...

Like when we bought our Legacy someone said that the Legacy was the most stolen car in the country. No fucking wonder Sherlock - about 10-25% of ALL cars on the NZ roads are Legacies it seems. Unless they were hard to steal and drove like shit (they are neither btw) they would of course get stolen all the time.

Size of population: N
Probability that X is gonna happen every Y seconds: P
Rate at which X is going to happen per Y seconds: F = P*N
Statistics 101. :rolleys:


I did a quick google to try and find the word I was looking for, but I just got all this NRA propaganda.

Does not knowing about guns not make me a man?

Not at all, not at all - just less of a gun nerd ;)
Just thought that it was hilarious that you were using it as an argument against the 100 is ok - 101 will kill you. When indeed, with an automatic - unless your aim is terrible - you'd kill yourself at 101. :yes:

Mikkel
18th February 2008, 10:08
It is actually the "cylinder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver)".

I stand corrected. A drum is what's on a Tommy gun - 100 rounds IIRC.

Coyote
18th February 2008, 10:12
Not at all, not at all - just less of a gun nerd ;)
Just thought that it was hilarious that you were using it as an argument against the 100 is ok - 101 will kill you. When indeed, with an automatic - unless your aim is terrible - you'd kill yourself at 101. :yes:
Better not let my friends know that and just keep on going 'aha, yep, sure, awesome'.

Well, if that's the case, I was right in the first place. 101k will kill unlike 100

madbikeboy
18th February 2008, 10:13
[QUOTE=Biggles08;1431844]Actually it is...When I was in hospital for my last accident cause by someone doing exactly the opposite of speed...parked on the road :blink:, I said to the nurse that they must get a lot of motorcyclist's there - she said "We get a lot more cyclists actually!"


I'm a cyclist as well, rode this morning before work, got a few really stupid close calls (normally motorists cutting it too fine). Ive been knocked of a few times. Motorcycling is safe in comparison. Plus, Bruce Lee wearing lycra would still pushed around. When you're wearing leathers and armour, drivers are suddenly intimidated. I'm cycling much less, and riding my Gixer much more. I haven't broken a bone since I gave up cycling seriously.

savage rider
18th February 2008, 10:30
i had a cop pull me up last week ,with no rego on my bike , who let me go them proceded to tell me he didnt rego his bike ether , Shock:blink:
he said the regos in Nz are too high and he couldnt blame people for not bothering to rego there bikes , bloody amazing i thought , need more like him .

skidMark
18th February 2008, 10:35
Or you could just not speed.

Ive followed a KB ride back from coromandel...pulled into kopu and you lot were there.

Next thing you were all riding like mad pricks at speeds of 160+ passing cars down the coro straights.

Made bikers look like pricks...50 bikes all doing it.

And we wonder why cops crack down on us.

We have created this image for ourselves.

MSTRS
18th February 2008, 10:43
Or you could just not speed.
bleat...waffle...gurgle...

Piss off. This is not about speed. It is about inappropriate targetting methods. Read the thread properly.

Mikkel
18th February 2008, 10:54
Or you could just not speed.

...

We have created this image for ourselves.

Working hard at earning that nomination are we? ;)

skidMark
18th February 2008, 11:35
Piss off. This is not about speed. It is about inappropriate targetting methods. Read the thread properly.

Speeding is speeding, it's illegal.

The police officers job is to enforce it.

Just because it's a passing lane it doesn't mean you can break the speed limit even momunterally

Ixion
18th February 2008, 11:56
Strictly speaking, it is not.

The Constable's Oath reads :



“I, [name], do swear that I will well and truly serve our Sovereign Lady the Queen in the Police, without favour or affection, malice or ill will, until I am legally discharged; that I will see and cause Her Majesty’s peace to be kept and preserved; that I will prevent to the best of my power all offences against the peace; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law. So help me God”


To prevent offences against the (Her Majesty's) peace. Part of which is maintaining the Rule of Law, without which the Queen's Peace cannot be. But that does not imply that a constable must take action against all and every technical offence. A distinction relied on most heavily by the government at various times . I particularly remember the debates about the "smacking bill"; and an occasion when Dear Leader was probably technically guilty of forgery.

Ocean1
18th February 2008, 12:18
Not disagreeing. But if I was an HP officer on a quota or some other form of incentivisation, I would be looking for barrels in which to shoot fish, rather than being *fair* or *reasonable* in my enforcement endeavours.

Y'know, I remember the indignant uproar caused by a new enforcement tactic years ago. The one involving parking 100m down the road from the pub at closing time and "randomly" testing passing motorists.

The righteous outrage, faithfully magnified by a diligent press, was immediately successful in curbing this unethical and cynical entrapment of the drinking public.

Maybe the press is less magnanimously faithful wrt the reporting of officers feeling the collar of those involved in semi-ballistic vehicular passing manoeuvres.

clint640
18th February 2008, 13:28
[QUOTE=Biggles08;1431844]Actually it is...When I was in hospital for my last accident cause by someone doing exactly the opposite of speed...parked on the road :blink:, I said to the nurse that they must get a lot of motorcyclist's there - she said "We get a lot more cyclists actually!"

I'm a cyclist as well, rode this morning before work, got a few really stupid close calls (normally motorists cutting it too fine). Ive been knocked of a few times. Motorcycling is safe in comparison.

Dead right, An Australian study found that on a per kilometer travelled basis, the good ol' treadly is something like 17 times more dangerous than a motorcycle. By the same criteria walking is far worse than the pushbike, & most hazardous of all is going by horse!

Cheers
Clint

The Joka
18th February 2008, 13:42
I live with a copper and he hates the guys that are out to be BASTARDS, pulling over people that are simply frustrated!

He says: "I would rather pull over the guy for traveling under 70kms then the guy doing under 120km, a lot of crashes are caused by driver frustration." :headbang:

So they are not all bad, agree with him that anything over 120 is excessive, and it isn't illegal to travel over 70km in a 100km zone, but you can still pull'em over and warn them.

HOWEVER I have been pulled over by the copper in Ngatea and he not a nice man - Very arrogant! must need a pint :apint: or a root :spanking:

pritch
18th February 2008, 14:35
Keep the gun clean and well maintained and the heavier cylinders with the rounds in them should settle at the bottom leaving you safe!

Good one. How to get your name in the Darwin awards :rofl:

jahrasti
18th February 2008, 15:32
What if this was the only place that the bloke could get out to either side of the road safely. Mabee he thought it was the safest place to operate the Laser. How do we know he wasn't useing discretion and chosing cars that are obviously speeding? Mabee he was on a two for one Sunday deal for his quota?
Oh wait I am jumping to conclusions.<_<

swbarnett
18th February 2008, 16:11
Speed kills!
The only time speed kills is if you spell it L.S.D


What? Can transcend physics laws?
We do not transcend physical laws, we just understand them better than anyone that touts the "speed kills" rhetoric.

Sanx
18th February 2008, 16:40
The only time speed kills is if you spell it L.S.D

Slightly off-topic, but LSD (or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide) is a hallucinogenic of the ergoline group. It bears no relation to alpha-methylphenethylamine ... commonly referred to as 'Speed'.

R6_kid
18th February 2008, 16:46
I'll tell you what's rediculous... the 'Redeemed' GSXR1000K3/4 rider who was 1m off my bumper at 100kmh hoping to get in front of me when there was no room for him in front of him.

And the other twat on a cruiser who pulled out of a carpark on me forcing me to take evasive action so that his shiney shit heap didn't become part of the paintwork on my front bumper.

As it would happen, I was checking my rear view mirrors to see what the GSXR was doing as we were coming into a 50kmh zone when the cruiser pulled out in front of me - now who do you think they would have blamed if i'd taken either of them out?

Wise up.

sAsLEX
18th February 2008, 16:58
You should have flicked the spare bolt, that you keep in your steering head, over your shoulder onto his windscreen.
You do keep a spare bolt there, don't you?

New bike not yet fitted


now who do you think they would have blamed if i'd taken either of them out?


The cops obviously!

discotex
18th February 2008, 17:03
What if this was the only place that the bloke could get out to either side of the road safely. Mabee he thought it was the safest place to operate the Laser.

Very good point. Maybe this was the only place he could safely see to do a u-turn to pursue someone without killing yet another biker.

Sure it's bad sportsmanship but if you can't pass safely on the passing lane at 110km/h whinge about the wanker that speeds up after going 70km/h before it. Can't blame the cop for going after the easy tickets.

R6_kid
18th February 2008, 17:03
The cops obviously!

Yeh i suppose. But rather than bitching they could be suggesting better ways of policing... like being in a position to target bad driving as opposed to people being in a bit of a hurry when it comes to a passing lane.

cowboyz
18th February 2008, 19:03
What I was saying that for every k you go, it's like having an extra bullet. The more k's over, the more certainty that you're going to get a bullet to the head.

It was along the lines of the current anti-speeding radio ad likening speeding to being a beekeeper. For those that haven't heard it, they say each few k over is like loosing a bit of protective clothing or his smoker and at 110k he's in the buff surrounded by bees. So at 99k, would it be like I have a flamethrower instead of a smoker? Cause each k under I should be exponentially safer shouldn't I?

that sounds cool. If I promise to ride round at 99, where do I pick up my flamethrower. Riding at 99 with a flamethrower seems ALOT more interesting than riding at 120 naked.


Or you could just not speed.



snipped soem shit..


Speeding is speeding, it's illegal.

The police officers job is to enforce it.

Just because it's a passing lane it doesn't mean you can break the speed limit even momunterally

skiddy. Put down the keyboard. take a step back. go get a job and then up your meds. FFS, I should get more red rep to hand out with the amount of hypocritical shit that comes out of your mouth.

swbarnett
19th February 2008, 10:35
Slightly off-topic, but LSD (or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide) is a hallucinogenic of the ergoline group. It bears no relation to alpha-methylphenethylamine ... commonly referred to as 'Speed'.
Shows what I know about drugs.:doh:

My point still stands though.

steveb64
19th February 2008, 17:48
coming back from Paeroa races today, great day by the way, came across a radar cop in probably the lamest place I have ever seen. Busy twisty road with few passing lanes but one of good length ideally placed on virtually the only straight. Guess where the cop is? Parked half way along the passing lane for christ sake! Thanks mate. So after law abiding citizens sit behind traffic for kms they get to said passing lane, let rip briefly to clear traffic and give others a similar chance to pass and hey presto, fined. What a dick.
p.s. confess its the principle that irks as wasn't exactly crawling back from Paeroa:yes:

Yep. Saw the fecker. Luckily, managed to get speed back below 110 in time. Must have pissed off all the others behind me, as I was first out into pass mode after being stuck behind a 80k special.


Getting back to the original post (and no disrespect intended to baby seals etc), that is a rotten spot for the cop to sit.

Time and again one can get caught behind a dawdler who ALWAYS floors it when there is a straight or a passing lane. Would a good cop accept there was a reason for going past if there was an evident line of traffic built up? Or would he assume everybody was a speeder except the first car?

I don't like to spend any more time than I need to on the opposite side of the road, so I blip up to maybe 120 to go by and then drop back to cruising speed. Do traffic cops want you to overtake at only 100, thus spending more time on the wrong side of the road? At that speed on a passing lane, there may be a lot of people behind you screaming and moaning, seeing their chance to get by slowpoke vanish.

Yep. You're getting the idea. Even if you're on a regular 2 way bit of road, and running out of room - you're STILL not allowed to go past 100. At least - they'll give you a ticket if you do - and probably another one for dangerous or careless use...


On our way home their was a red Mitis parked halfway along one of the passing lanes :shifty:


I've seen them parked:
over broken yellow lines
on the footpath outside my daughter's school
on private property in the suburbs
- point is they'll park wherever they think is going to be the most productive. Its a business.



A big thanks to all those speeding peeps who helped clear the roads for our uneventful trip home - keep up the donations :2thumbsup

Saw the van too - still in the passing lane. At least it didn't flash at me... And I was halfway past another car...


Shows what I know about drugs.:doh:

My point still stands though.

Yep - Speed is spelled "P". :whistle: :D

Gremlin
19th February 2008, 17:57
On our way home their was a red Mitis parked halfway along one of the passing lanes :shifty:
Yeh, I saw that one... Got a heads up, looked for it, and signalled the cages as well... hopefully he didn't get any of them around me... Nasty place, there hadn't been any passing for a while, and as usual, the moron at the front sped up.

RT527
19th February 2008, 17:58
FFs people there is No QUOTA!!!!!





They allowed to get as many as they want now....go figure.




Think they need to spend more time on the slow drivers as much as the speeders .

Speed doesnt kill, its the sudden stop or the piece of metal through the head, yup that will do it....in the words of one bright spark cop...." Yup think thats the cause of death right there" I said ya think.....

BiK3RChiK
19th February 2008, 18:18
Yeh, I saw that one... Got a heads up, looked for it, and signalled the cages as well... hopefully he didn't get any of them around me... Nasty place, there hadn't been any passing for a while, and as usual, the moron at the front sped up.

Pisses ya off don't it? Haha, a cop did this to my hubby and he smoked him! LOL

steveb64
19th February 2008, 19:01
FFs people there is No QUOTA!!!!!





They allowed to get as many as they want now....go figure.




Think they need to spend more time on the slow drivers as much as the speeders .

Speed doesnt kill, its the sudden stop or the piece of metal through the head, yup that will do it....in the words of one bright spark cop...." Yup think thats the cause of death right there" I said ya think.....

Yeah right. :p Sure there is. It's just not called a 'Quota'. More like 'Minimum performance standard' or summat similar. ...and they always WERE allowed to get as many as they want... :msn-wink: Just not as few as we would like... :(

BUT - I do agree with you on the other points! :niceone:

scumdog
19th February 2008, 21:22
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

oldrider
19th February 2008, 21:39
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

Yep scummy that will do! (you have a Southern discretionary quota)

You have our permission to take the rest of the month off.

Go to a bike rally or something.

Call it a citizens decision, Helen will understand :yes: it's election year! :yawn: John.

SixPackBack
19th February 2008, 21:40
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

Guess you keep your job, but seriously is that likely to get you promoted?

The quota 'thing' is a f%cken confusing conversation starter.:mellow:

Sanx
19th February 2008, 21:52
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

I dunno what your quota is meant to be - but if the point of your post is to intimate there aren't quotas, please can you let that bloke at the top know ... Howard Broad's already admitted they exist - just not using the word 'quota'.

Seeing cops continually harp on about how quotas / performance targets / customer contacts / [insert management bullshit here] are merely a figment of the public's imagination is getting really tiring.

steveb64
19th February 2008, 23:29
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

Yep. Chasing a car thief whilst dressed in only a truncheon has got to be worth another 50! That should take you up to 55 - so, quite a good effort really! :msn-wink:

spudchucka
20th February 2008, 04:46
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

I haven't written a single ticket in over 14 months.:woohoo:

jahrasti
20th February 2008, 06:14
I haven't written a single ticket in over 14 months.:woohoo:

Bullshit! I thought all cops wrote out tickets for speeding and didn't concentrate on "real crime".:Police:

gtr boy
20th February 2008, 06:44
If the pigs want people out of the way they should use the proper procedure, and not use some bullshit stand-over technique. If they use their lights I'm instantly clear of their path regardless, so USE THEM, BOYS.

What biker needs a passing lane anyway ?

DB
too true ,not needed at all,cages need im

Patrick
20th February 2008, 11:38
Speed kills over 9000 innocent babies each year in this country

Sparrows don't count......


On our way home their was a red Mitis parked halfway along one of the passing lanes :shifty:

I've seen them parked:
over broken yellow lines
on the footpath outside my daughter's school
on private property in the suburbs

Exemption lights... They can park in the middle of the road side on as far as I am concerned if they are outside my kids school (Rural country area).


Y'know, I remember the indignant uproar caused by a new enforcement tactic years ago. The one involving parking 100m down the road from the pub at closing time and "randomly" testing passing motorists.

The righteous outrage, faithfully magnified by a diligent press, was immediately successful in curbing this unethical and cynical entrapment of the drinking public.

Maybe the press is less magnanimously faithful wrt the reporting of officers feeling the collar of those involved in semi-ballistic vehicular passing manoeuvres.

Sorted now... "Anywhere, any time, any place."


Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

That's good... haven't done any since September 07...

MSTRS
20th February 2008, 12:24
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

So everyone that lives in Southland has been pinged by you??? Plus one of them was a recidivist....:msn-wink:

Hitcher
20th February 2008, 12:30
Plus one of them was a recidivist

A couple of those knocked on my front door the other night wanting to save my soul.

MSTRS
20th February 2008, 12:53
A couple of those knocked on my front door the other night wanting to save my soul.

Let's hope that was your quota for the year...

avgas
20th February 2008, 15:29
Was his plate CBL700? That wanker was being a cock this morning sitting about 1 meter off my rear tire at 100 clicks and wouldnt back off till I dropped to about 40 kmhr so then he flicks on his reds and blues and ducks up the inside of a corner
Really? I would have slammed on the breaks stating that the bike felt strange.
That way the carrot up his arse might come out his nose
FYI this is not cop bashing, its moron clubbing

Pex Adams
20th February 2008, 15:40
Will somebody please tell me what my quota is meant to be?:confused:

Written out about 5 tickets so far this month - is that enough??

I hope they were for Dump ass campervans, and dickheads not allowing others to pass, while they travel at 60km/p on the open road...

Now right there is the true menace's to society!

sAsLEX
20th February 2008, 15:55
I haven't written a single ticket in over 14 months.:woohoo:

Are you HP?

Ixion
20th February 2008, 16:01
No, they paid cash for him. Got a special discount , on account of he was fairly shop-soiled.

spudchucka
20th February 2008, 19:22
Bullshit! I thought all cops wrote out tickets for speeding and didn't concentrate on "real crime".:Police:

Not bullshit. Lots of people think lots of shit about cops that is totally incorrect, you're obviously one of them. My focus is on burglaries, car crime and serious crime. This doesn't prevent me from writing tickets, I choose not to, unless the offence is one that I feel warrants immediate intervention.

spudchucka
20th February 2008, 19:22
Are you HP?

Wash your mouth out, you rude horrible man!!!

Japtwin
20th February 2008, 19:52
Good on him got no problem w that eh.

sAsLEX
20th February 2008, 19:56
Wash your mouth out, you rude horrible man!!!

So your performance will not be being rated on tickets/contacts/blah the same way the snakes are.

Not many people have issues with the boys in the orange cars....... its the yellow and undercover cops at the end of passing lanes......

Keep up the good work.

SixPackBack
20th February 2008, 19:59
Are you HP?

Probably a mermaid:whistle:

spudchucka
20th February 2008, 20:06
So your performance will not be being rated on tickets/contacts/blah the same way the snakes are.

I sure hope not because if it is then I'm already in deep shit.

Luker
20th February 2008, 21:33
Speed kills over 9000 innocent babies each year in this country

Dont know what stats you are looking at, more around 350-400.

9000 a year would be like 24 peeps a day.... =/

:gob: Hope not, sounds like alot of paperwork for the Police and LTNZ.

Year-to-date
As at 20 Feb 2008 62
Same time last year 53
Last 12 months
As at 20 Feb 2008 432
Same time last year 387
Month-to-date
As at 20 Feb 2008 27
Same time last year 14

Coyote
21st February 2008, 12:52
Sparrows don't count......

Yes they do!

Dont know what stats you are looking at, more around 350-400.
lolol (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Over_9000)

Patrick
21st February 2008, 15:33
Yes they do!

lolol (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Over_9000)

my bad... no fingers but three toes... or is it four?

mxracer_nz
21st February 2008, 17:24
Not bullshit. Lots of people think lots of shit about cops that is totally incorrect, you're obviously one of them. My focus is on burglaries, car crime and serious crime. This doesn't prevent me from writing tickets, I choose not to, unless the offence is one that I feel warrants immediate intervention.

Iam also one of the people who think lots of shit about cops because most are pieces of s**t. I guess your the one of the 10 that are trying to do sum good and my hats off to you. Its really starting to piss me off how many cops they assign to hide with there radar guns, the last time i read the death toll hasnt changed much so its obsivily not doing jack, i also think they pump out all these adverts and road signs on speed kills just to justify the amount of tickets being issued because its a huge income for the government.

avgas
22nd February 2008, 07:28
Iam also one of the people who think lots of shit about cops because most are pieces of s**t. I guess your the one of the 10 that are trying to do sum good and my hats off to you. Its really starting to piss me off how many cops they assign to hide with there radar guns, the last time i read the death toll hasnt changed much so its obsivily not doing jack, i also think they pump out all these adverts and road signs on speed kills just to justify the amount of tickets being issued because its a huge income for the government.
Correct me if i'm wrong but you come across as rather young and naive about how messed up the world is.
I miss that time now :headbang:
For that reason i wont tell you to relax - in fact keep it up.
Cos the world is a f'ing depressing place when you get to the core of it all.