1Tonne jackets on trademe

[Mr Triple]

Any body had anything to do with these jackets, seem cheap @$135 but are they any good?

[MIXONE]

As in all things you get what you pay for.Can you remember the ad that went something along the lines of 'Got a fifty dollar head?Get a fifty dollar helmet"

[Mr Triple]

As in all things you get what you pay for.Can you remember the ad that went something along the lines of 'Got a fifty dollar head?Get a fifty dollar helmet"

Yep understand that,but it said RRP$499 didnt know weather they bought a big shipment in or something.But I know what you mean thats why I thought I would just ask if anyone has had anything to with them.

[sefer]

It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one too :) Quoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...

I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.

Anyway, back to what you asked. Unless someone has owned one, or you can have a look you can't really know. Ignore the "RRP" on anything you can't find in stores or at least someone else selling online, if they are the only importer they set the rrp, so really it means nothing. Quite a few trademe importers/seller try that one on.

[Nasty]

Any body had anything to do with these jackets, seem cheap @$135 but are they any good?

Mine should arrive today ... will let you know.

[NighthawkNZ]

It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one too :) Quoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...

I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.

I know we do the same with our products sometimes putting the price up to sell them (makes people think they are a better product than they are) and some times dropping the price...

Not only since we import we know the true price of the product... and what people are sell them at... :shock:

[Steam]

I bought a REALLY cheap helmet the other day on Trademe, and it was REALLY flimsy and light and useless. It had all the NZ safety stickers on it but I returned it and got my money back. I reckon they were fake stickers.

[BiK3RChiK]

It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one too :) Quoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...

I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.

Anyway, back to what you asked. Unless someone has owned one, or you can have a look you can't really know. Ignore the "RRP" on anything you can't find in stores or at least someone else selling online, if they are the only importer they set the rrp, so really it means nothing. Quite a few trademe importers/seller try that one on.

Reverse psychology - works almost every time...

I like to try gear on before I buy, so I almost never buy clothing on-line. That would include helmets and the like. I find that if the fit isn't right it just too much hassle when you have to return stuff, so now I tend to just look in the shops. Having said that, shop around!

M

[BiK3RChiK]

I bought a REALLY cheap helmet the other day on Trademe, and it was REALLY flimsy and light and useless. It had all the NZ safety stickers on it but I returned it and got my money back. I reckon they were fake stickers.

Heh! To me, a helmet is probably the most important piece of motorbike gear. I would never buy on on-line. Go and try the ones on in your local motorcycle dealership! How otherwise are you going to know it will fit and be comfortable and safe?

Just my 0.02,

M

[huck farley]

Heh! To me, a helmet is probably the most important piece of motorbike gear. I would never buy on on-line. Go and try the ones on in your local motorcycle dealership! How otherwise are you going to know it will fit and be comfortable and safe?

Just my 0.02,

M

I hear what your saying. Brian Bernard told a group of us who attended a training day at Manfield a couple of years ago now. That $10 heads fit perfectly in $10 helmets. How very true. We spend thousands on a bike. Then go and buy a El cheapo skid lid. Don't make sense to me. I agree always try a helmet before you buy one. Never buy from on auction.

Getting back on track If you have a return policy with the people selling the Jackets then go for it. As the Pakistanis, Indians and the Chinese are making 90% of jackets we wear now. And some of the leather and craftsmanship is as good as anything the big boys like Alpine-stars are bringing in. If the truth's known they will have probably be made in the countries I have mentioned. So bikers are only paying for the name at huge inflated prices..

[Mr Triple]

I hear what your saying. Brian Bernard told a group of us who attended a training day at Manfield a couple of years ago now. That $10 heads fit perfectly in $10 helmets. How very true. We spend thousands on a bike. Then go and buy a El cheapo skid lid. Don't make sense to me. I agree always try a helmet before you buy one. Never buy from on auction.

Getting back on track If you have a return policy with the people selling the Jackets then go for it. As the Pakistanis, Indians and the Chinese are making 90% of jackets we wear now. And some of the leather and craftsmanship is as good as anything the big boys like Alpine-stars are bringing in. If the truth's known they will have probably be made in the countries I have mentioned. So bikers are only paying for the name at huge inflated prices..

You are right just got an e-mail back from the seller. They are made in Pakistan... but also they only have soft armor and I would like hard.

[Quasievil]

being in the Business (as you all know) and having visited the countries where most of our gear is made I understand VERY well the price vs Quality issue on leathers, I can say alot about this matter but wont as Its sounds like bad mouthing a competitor (however we arent in the bottom end of the market) but I will say this, you simply CANNOT make a quality jacket with QUALITY components for this sought of money, something must give, either the leather, the stitching, the armour, or a combination of any or all of the above, I will say that I prefer none of you to find out which ones have been missed out as you will only find out after a crash.
If you want cheap, you get cheap, if you want qulaity protection, spend the money, if you want quality protection and have no money talk to me I have lots of bits and bobs lying around that I will be happy to sell cheap to you.
I hope I didnt come across negative, but safety is my business

[Quasievil]

So bikers are only paying for the name at huge inflated prices..


Youre on the money there, the quality out of the above countries (bar China in my view) is very good. The Pakistan Leather is the best however assumming its A grade cowhide which in this subject it wouldnt be Im sure,
For your info we get most of our leather ex South Africa and Australia for various reasons.
Interestingly Alpinestar has alot of gear made in these countries also, but that shouldnt matter because the general quality standards will be audited
by the brand (how good the quality standards are though is another subject)

[Nasty]

being in the Business (as you all know) and having visited the countries where most of our gear is made I understand VERY well the price vs Quality issue on leathers,....
If you want cheap, you get cheap, if you want qulaity protection, spend the money, if you want quality protection and have no money talk to me I have lots of bits and bobs lying around that I will be happy to sell cheap to you.
I hope I didnt come across negative, but safety is my business

I could not agree more .. the gear I am buying from 1tonne is due to weight loss .. and I am not prepared to spend a fortune on temporary gear when I know I have still a way to go ... hopefully not too far!

[vifferman]

Can you remember the ad that went something along the lines of 'Got a fifty dollar head?Get a fifty dollar helmet"
Yes. That one in fact, was started by Bell Helmets when their sales were dropping because their helmets were so much dearer than others at the time (in the '70s, I think), especially when the first of the injection-moulded helmets were coming on the market. Of course, they were MUCH cheaper to produce than Bell's hand-laid fibreglass shells.
In my case, a $50 helmet would be overcapitalising my head by about $40.

[pritch]

Heh! To me, a helmet is probably the most important piece of motorbike gear. I would never buy on on-line.


I would. If the seller was reputable, and the helmet was a known brand, and if I know that the particular model fits well.

There are people on KB who have imported hats from the USA and have had a good experience. As long as you know what you're doing you should be fine, and there are big savings to be made. If you know what you're doing...

[pritch]

Can you remember the ad that went something along the lines of 'Got a fifty dollar head?Get a fifty dollar helmet"

That's inflation for you.

A guy said to me once, "Do you know where I can get a really cheap helmet?"
I replied, "If you've got a $10 head wear a $10 helmet."
He said, "It's not for me, it's for the wife." :laugh:

[MIXONE]

So he wanted $5 change then:rolleyes:

[Steam]

A guy said to me once, "Do you know where I can get a really cheap helmet?"
I replied, "If you've got a $10 head wear a $10 helmet."
He said, "It's not for me, it's for the wife." :laugh:

Ahahaha! I said that in a post a couple of months ago, genuinely. Except not with the wife, but a girlfriend.
:doh:

[Coyote]

My first road bike helmet was the cheapest I could find (HJC CS-10, $160) and it got at least 5 hard knocks (may have forgotten a few more). Eventually it got stolen rather than replaced. How much is my head worth then?

[BiK3RChiK]

I could not agree more .. the gear I am buying from 1tonne is due to weight loss .. and I am not prepared to spend a fortune on temporary gear when I know I have still a way to go ... hopefully not too far!

Ahh... I see now. Well done on the weight loss. Too many obese people in this country! If you need 'temporary gear' I'd suggest you still try it on before buying or are you able to borrow some for a while? Ill fitting gear could be dangerous..

Just my 0.02

M

[Nasty]

Ahh... I see now. Well done on the weight loss. Too many obese people in this country! If you need 'temporary gear' I'd suggest you still try it on before buying or are you able to borrow some for a while? Ill fitting gear could be dangerous..

Just my 0.02

M

2cents notes - I don't wear ill fitting gear ... it is guaranteed if you read his material .. so he will send a new size if you need it.

[BiK3RChiK]

My first road bike helmet was the cheapest I could find (HJC CS-10, $160) and it got at least 5 hard knocks (may have forgotten a few more). Eventually it got stolen rather than replaced. How much is my head worth then?

Hahaha I wonder if it split open on their first bin?:shit:

M

[HungusMaximist]

It's good to have friends who works at shops and is able to get you dealer prices. :bleh:

[Nasty]

My 1tonne arrived today .. it fits really well ... and is really lovely.

[Grub]

I bought a REALLY cheap helmet the other day on Trademe, and it was REALLY flimsy and light and useless. It had all the NZ safety stickers on it but I returned it and got my money back. I reckon they were fake stickers.

I hope you took pics and sent them to one of the crown agencies? That's playing with peoples lives.

[natnat]

Hi. I sell the 1Tonne motorcycle apparel and out of 300+ sales of jackets and pants I have only had 2 return becuse of damage. This is an excellant record. I have even had motorcycle shops asking to sell my motorcycle apparel but I say "No" because I want to make my apparel the best value for money in NZ. If the shops add on thier bit, they wouldn't be the best value for money. This apparel is as good, and in a lot of cases better than anything you would buy from a bike shop. I am very proud of my products. Cheers.

[Radar]

My 1tonne arrived today .. it fits really well ... and is really lovely.

My 1Tonne jacket and pants arrived last week and they are really good - for the price they are excellent. Compared to the DriRider $180 - $190 jackets I have seen in the shops, the 1Tonne has vents and 600 denier thickness (Cordura) whereas DriRider has no vents and 500 denier. The 1Tonne jackets will zip connect to the pants in the back. The jackets have reflective striping - that works - and has all the pockets, velcro, zips and snaps that you would want. The jacket has some gray and white which I like instead of the solid black most other jackets have.

1Tonne did send me gloves but I had to return them since they were too small - in the end I bought 3XL gloves in Lower Hutt, but for most people the 1Tonne XL or XXL gloves should fit. The gloves are super and = ones that cost $160 or more in the shops. BTW, I normally take XL or XXL gloves but I wanted to put in Thinsulate thermal liners for those cold winter days.

As with anything on Trademe, read the comments. If the jackets were crappola you would see negative comments but all comments are ++.

[edit] Forgot to say that I have not worn the gear in the rain but the Cordura is supposed to be waterproof and breathable.

[Quasievil]

As with anything on Trademe, read the comments. If the jackets were crappola you would see negative comments but all comments are ++.

Maybe no one has crashed yet?:dodge:

Sorry mate, you get what you pay for. I know how to buy and sell gear that cheap to but I have a caring nature for my fellow bikers, so dont cut corners.
And its not sour grapes because Im not in the cheap low quality market, nor will ever be, but I repeat you get what you pay for.

[Radar]

Maybe no one has crashed yet?:dodge:

Sorry mate, you get what you pay for. I know how to buy and sell gear that cheap to but I have a caring nature for my fellow bikers, so dont cut corners.
And its not sour grapes because Im not in the cheap low quality market, nor will ever be, but I repeat you get what you pay for.


Maybe, maybe not.

Ask me in 6 - 12 months how I like the jacket and if I would have wanted to pay another $100 or so for DriRider (etc) jacket and pants.

[Sparky Bills]

Its funny....
People buy this cheap stuff and expect it to actually keep the water out and protect you if you come off. Which is the reason we actually wear "Saftey" gear isnt it.
If we cant garrentee that it will protect you, then whats the point??

You cant honestly buy a $135 jacket and realisticly think it will last in a crash.

[TheRich]

It would be good to have good gear but... I am just starting out getting a bike, license, gear, helmet, etc. It adds up quickly when you have to get it all.
I have a rather tight budget and am pritty much looking at using a bike for commuting for a start, thats why I'm looking at the 1tonne stuff.
I want to get all the right stuff but dont have $1000 to spend on gear unfortunately.

[Quasievil]

It would be good to have good gear but... I am just starting out getting a bike, license, gear, helmet, etc. It adds up quickly when you have to get it all.
I have a rather tight budget and am pritty much looking at using a bike for commuting for a start, thats why I'm looking at the 1tonne stuff.
I want to get all the right stuff but dont have $1000 to spend on gear unfortunately.

I understand that its expensive, but thats why many Kiwi bikers on a small budget talk to me because we have a range of clearout gear which we are selling for a huge discount, this is the same spec that has been crashed by kiwibikers 55 times (that I know of) with all gear still being completely serviceable.
so talk to us and we will sought out a suitable deal for you:apint:

[TheRich]

Yeah I checked out the website and your clearance stuff does seem quite good priced.
Funnily enough I was also talking to someone today who said the brand was good :yes:

[speights_bud]

Hmm, the only experience I've had with bike gear letting me down was with a one piece suit of 'spool' leathers, i was being a bit of a clown coming through splash at Manfield and lost the back end, and slid down the track for a while, i got up and finished the session but after getting back to the pits found both seams down the bum side of my thigh's had torn open about 6 inches each side, i was a little surprised to find that the gear was only single stitched in those places! i would have expected better from a well known brand. i had them and some other bits from previous spills stitched back up and returned the owner i'd borrowed them from (SketchyRacer):niceone:

[1tonne]

Maybe no one has crashed yet?:dodge:

Sorry mate, you get what you pay for. I know how to buy and sell gear that cheap to but I have a caring nature for my fellow bikers, so dont cut corners.
And its not sour grapes because Im not in the cheap low quality market, nor will ever be, but I repeat you get what you pay for.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/playnice.gif

Trust me Quasimoto. I know that you are getting your products for a very similar price to me and the quality is also on an even keel. The only difference is you put a very high markup on yours but I am not in the market of ripping people off. You have said that "you simply CANNOT make a quality jacket with QUALITY components for this sought of money". This is a lie as you are selling leather jackets for only $150.00. Are these cheap crap as well? The fact that you can sell a leather jacket at $150.00 shows me also that you get your products for a similar price to me. If not, I would say you might even get them cheaper.
Also we have had people report about crashes and they were very happy with the way our gear handled it.
:Playnice:

[Steam]

It's a vendor war!:jerry:87681

[Quasievil]

All I have said and I continue to maintain low price will not equal a high quality garment, if you disagree fine but you might consider this as a law in economics.
I dont think I have actually bagged your product at all, but low cost products does equate low quality irrespective of its a car or a hair dryer
Im not really interested in a slagging war with you, and I will try not to bag your product or brand
At the end of the day good on you for having a go (I mean that) however I will answer you as below.


Trust me Quasimoto. I know that you are getting your products for a very similar price to me and the quality is also on an even keel.

Not even remotely are they in the same bracket at any level, sorry



The only difference is you put a very high markup on yours but I am not in the market of ripping people off. You have said that "you simply CANNOT make a quality jacket with QUALITY components for this sought of money".

You are not privy to this information so you do not know, however I will tell you my jacket cost is twice your average selling price.
i could however buy Jackets landed in New Zealand from your supplier for USD$55 and your pants for USD$43, but as I say, there is no connection between low quality and the QUASiMOTO brand.
Moshin, one tonne and lifestyle imports products are freely available from Pakistan mostly through trading houses like SHOO industries who collect products from various makers around Sailkot and represent them internationally and these items have found themselves in the Market here in NZ represented mostly on trademe, which only cause me concern from the safety perspective as the garments are not made to a high standard, Period.


This is a lie as you are selling leather jackets for only $150.00.

Im not a lier thanks

Only clearout items from the 2006 range are at $150.00 and sold at below costs


Are these cheap crap as well?

No




The fact that you can sell a leather jacket at $150.00 shows me also that you get your products for a similar price to me. If not, I would say you might even get them cheaper.


As above, clearout only, you will also note we do not pin a false retail price tag onto the items to lure customers thinking they are a higher quality item, Im not aware of your products being represented at retail level.




Also we have had people report about crashes and they were very happy with the way our gear handled it.


Thats good.



the Fact in the real world is Quality actually does cost money (real money) high quality cannot be made for low cost it simply doesnt work like that.
I understand that you have a market position and thats good, however we are at different levels on the quality and price scale and thats about the end of it really.

Good Luck with your business and there is no grudge from us at all.

[1tonne]

My 1Tonne jacket and pants arrived last week and they are really good - for the price they are excellent. Compared to the DriRider $180 - $190 jackets I have seen in the shops, the 1Tonne has vents and 600 denier thickness (Cordura) whereas DriRider has no vents and 500 denier. The 1Tonne jackets will zip connect to the pants in the back. The jackets have reflective striping - that works - and has all the pockets, velcro, zips and snaps that you would want. The jacket has some gray and white which I like instead of the solid black most other jackets have.

The gloves are super and = ones that cost $160 or more in the shops. As with anything on Trademe, read the comments. If the jackets were crappola you would see negative comments but all comments are ++.

Thanks Radar. Always pleased to hear from happy customers.:first:

[1tonne]

My 1tonne arrived today .. it fits really well ... and is really lovely.

Thanks Nasty. Glad to hear you like our products. We aim to bring you the best quality at the best prices. We now have really high quality boots at a great price if you are interested. Thanks once again.:2thumbsup

[Str8 Jacket]

Thanks Nasty. Glad to hear you like our products. We aim to bring you the best quality at the best prices. We now have really high quality boots at a great price if you are interested. Thanks once again.:2thumbsup

What is the price range of your boots?

[1tonne]

We have some really high quality touring boots for $135.00 and some Race boots that look absolutely awesome (even I was shocked at how good the quality was) for $190.00. To have a look check out Trademe. You will be impressed with these. Thanks:2thumbsup

[Maverick]

We have some really high quality touring boots for $135.00 and some Race boots that look absolutely awesome (even I was shocked at how good the quality was) for $190.00. To have a look check out Trademe. You will be impressed with these. Thanks:2thumbsup

Do they have a completely waterproof lining?

[1tonne]

Hi. The racing boots have a PU Lamination done to the leather which helps to waterproof them. The touring boots have a PU Lamination as well as a Ressia Membrane which means they are 100% waterproof. I hope this helps.

[MohsinBikeWear]

I think it's really important for people to do their home work when it comes to riding gear and safety. Don't let someone tell you certian gear is not up to it...find out for yourself. Ask heaps of questions and get to know what makes a good product and compare brands on those bases. This is a great forum for asking heaps of questions and finding out the facts. It's disappointing some feel they have to have their five cents worth when they have no knowledge of the product. It's funny as you don't see the manufacturers and distributors for Alpine Star, Dianese etc jumping on here telling everyone "you get what you pay for" as I think they give consumers a little more credit!!

[Virago]

...It's disappointing some feel they have to have their five cents worth when they have no knowledge of the product. It's funny as you don't see the manufacturers and distributors for Alpine Star, Dianese etc jumping on here telling everyone "you get what you pay for" as I think they give consumers a little more credit!!

Indeed. But the continuing sniping and bickering does none of you any credit.

[1tonne]

I think it's really important for people to do their home work when it comes to riding gear and safety. Don't let someone tell you certian gear is not up to it...find out for yourself. Ask heaps of questions and get to know what makes a good product and compare brands on those bases. This is a great forum for asking heaps of questions and finding out the facts. It's disappointing some feel they have to have their five cents worth when they have no knowledge of the product. It's funny as you don't see the manufacturers and distributors for Alpine Star, Dianese etc jumping on here telling everyone "you get what you pay for" as I think they give consumers a little more credit!!
Thanks Mohsin. I agree with you. People shouldn't be giving thier opinion without seeing the quality of the product first. I have see yours and I think they look great. Cheers

[Quasievil]

Indeed. But the continuing sniping and bickering does none of you any credit.

lol, whos sniping and bickering, this an open debate about quality vs cost and that quality components cost, because they do.
good Luck to Moshin and 1Tonne, its a hard road I know (been there)

[Maha]

I think it's really important for people to do their home work when it comes to riding gear and safety. Don't let someone tell you certian gear is not up to it...find out for yourself. Ask heaps of questions and get to know what makes a good product and compare brands on those bases. This is a great forum for asking heaps of questions and finding out the facts. It's disappointing some feel they have to have their five cents worth when they have no knowledge of the product. It's funny as you don't see the manufacturers and distributors for Alpine Star, Dianese etc jumping on here telling everyone "you get what you pay for" as I think they give consumers a little more credit!!


Indeed, there will always be the 'competition' out there and its up to the individual to choose what is best for him/her to buy. Personally, I like to try before I by so buying online aint an option for me, but it suits others.
Here another option....and this gear is outstanding
Get over yourselves guys, theres plenty of room for everyone.
Im fucking good at what i do but im not the be all and end all of my trade.

http://www.motorcyclegear.co.nz/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=355&cat=Road+%3A+Boots%2FSocks+%3A+Sidi

[sinned]

I am a bit old fashioned (or just old) and my choice will be to buy from a supplier who has been around more than single digit posts, has proven gear, is trusted in our community, has done the research, and is a serious motorcycle rider.

[toebug]

Its funny....
People buy this cheap stuff and expect it to actually keep the water out and protect you if you come off. Which is the reason we actually wear "Saftey" gear isnt it.
If we cant garrentee that it will protect you, then whats the point??

You cant honestly buy a $135 jacket and realisticly think it will last in a crash.

Completely disagree.

I bought my fieldsheer jacket off trademe for $90 and it is a kevlar jacket. Keeps the water out well enough and I have put it down the road! Slid for 20m the kevlar melted together as it should have, no stiching has come apart the jacket is still in good condition and has hrad armour, and its been 2 years next month since that bin and this is still my only jacket.

Cheap doesnt always mean its shit, some of us importers can do good deals and pass on the savings we get.

[Teflon]

I have a problem with fucking zips (big gut) on jackets.. do the 1Tonne jackets have big chunky, quality zips?

Cheers

[Sparky Bills]

You keep saying the word Quality... But what are the boots and jackets actually made of??
What type of stitching do they have etc?

Alpinestars is HIGH quality. They use REAL leather even!

Are your boots REAL leather? If so, what type?
Are the liners properly sealed?

Saying they are a good quality garments doesnt make it so, unless they are made with good quality materials.

[bert_is_evil]

You keep saying the word Quality... But what are the boots and jackets actually made of??
What type of stitching do they have etc?

Alpinestars is HIGH quality. They use REAL leather even!

Are your boots REAL leather? If so, what type?
Are the liners properly sealed?

Saying they are a good quality garments doesnt make it so, unless they are made with good quality materials.

Sidi boots aren't made of leather, they are pretty good I think...

[1tonne]

I have a problem with fucking zips (big gut) on jackets.. do the 1Tonne jackets have big chunky, quality zips?

Cheers

Yes. These have good quality YKK zips. Cheers

[1tonne]

You keep saying the word Quality... But what are the boots and jackets actually made of??
What type of stitching do they have etc?
Saying they are a good quality garments doesnt make it so, unless they are made with good quality materials.

Hi Sparkly Bills
I took my motorcycle apparel down to Manfield race track today to see what people thought of it. They couldn't believe I was selling such good gear at such a cheap price. I even had bike shops wanting to buy my gear down there. Here are some features of my touring boots and what they are made of.
Features:
100% Water proof
Ressia Membrane (a lot of the high end touring boots won't even have this)
Top "A" Grade Leather with PU Lamination
Maximum Protection with TPU Protectors at the Gear Patch and Ankle
Strong Grip Rubber Sole
Rubber pad for gear shifting
Double stitched to all seams
Foam Lining
Satisfaction Guaranteed
These will impress

Most touring boots have a PU Lamination which makes them waterproof. Ours has this but it also has a Ressia membrane which means it has two forms of waterproofing. I hope this helps answer your question. Cheers.

[gunrunner]

Well i bought this jacket from overseas , and it cost so much to deliver i bought 5 and i do sell these on trade me . There is some shit out there and im not saying mine are the best but i am happy with mine and alot of my mates have bought there own . Im not out to make money but i dont sell shit but there is cheap shit out there .

[GSVR]

Had a quick look at this 1Tonne stuff at Manfeild and was impressed with what the leathers were selling for.

So much competition in the market these days can only be good for the consumer with retailers having to offer very sharp pricing.

[1tonne]

Thanks GSVR. It's good to hear some feedback. I'm glad you liked the products. Cheers.:2thumbsup

[toebug]

I quite like the look of the sports/racing boots 1tonne has on offer! How water proof are they? Could be up for a pair of those snce I AM a tight arse and skimp on gear!!!

No seriously my current boots are $90 Rjays and after nearly 3 years they are about spent.

[Quasievil]

I quite like the look of the sports/racing boots 1tonne has on offer! How water proof are they? Could be up for a pair of those snce I AM a tight arse and skimp on gear!!!

No seriously my current boots are $90 Rjays and after nearly 3 years they are about spent.

What size foot are you, I got a few pairs here. Im not doing them however for a couple of reasons but happy to flick em to you

[Str8 Jacket]

What size foot are you, I got a few pairs here. Im not doing them however for a couple of reasons but happy to flick em to you

When I won those vouchers last year you told me that you didnt have any boots?! :(

[Quasievil]

When I won those vouchers last year you told me that you didnt have any boots?! :(

Got a few in recently, want me to bring them down for you to try out next weekend happy to, the only real problem is they are hard to zip up over leather pants, particulary if the pants have a good armour system, ie shins etc, so no good for us

[Str8 Jacket]

Got a few in recently, want me to bring them down for you to try out next weekend happy to, the only real problem is they are hard to zip up over leather pants, particulary if the pants have a good armour system, ie shins etc, so no good for us

Got no money, only those vouchers....

[Donor]

Mmmm... boots...

So who's got something good in a size 12 then? :D

[1tonne]

Sorry I am out of size 12

Cheers

[Nagash]

Yeah man, i'm a size 12 too and looking for a pair of riding boots..

Big feet suck sometimes..

[toebug]

Got a few in recently, want me to bring them down for you to try out next weekend happy to, the only real problem is they are hard to zip up over leather pants, particulary if the pants have a good armour system, ie shins etc, so no good for us

I dont wear leathers so have nothing to tuck in and Hamilton is nice and close. I will PM you for a price.

[Teflon]

Yes. These have good quality YKK zips. Cheers

From your trademe auctions your jackets look pretty good for the price.. but from the available sizes, just a tad to small.

thanks

[1tonne]

Thansk. Maybe next time. Cheers.

[ducatilover]

i just purchased a set of boots off trademe made by 1tonne. will post up a review when they arrive:2thumbsup

[Donor]

Mmmm... boots...

So who's got something good in a size 12 then? :D


Sorry I am out of size 12

Cheers

No disrespect intended, but that's some crap sales technique right there.

I personally would have at least given a price with perhaps a lead time on when you might have something in stock.

One missed opportunity can be the difference between many repeat sales and many missed ones.

[1tonne]

Sorry. Lesson learned. We do not have size 12 in stock and do not know when we will be ordering more as it will be some time (about 6 months or so). If you go to "Shop Sales, Info & Discounts", you will see a photo of our products and that our race boots are $190.00 and our touring boots are $135.00
Cheers

[Gubb]

If you go to "Shop Sales, Info & Discounts", you will see a photo of our products and that our race boots are $190.00 and our touring boots are $135.00
Cheers
Not much use if you don't have anything in stock.

Also, why not just order some more as a standalone order, only ordering stock when you have nothing left is a pretty poor way to run a business, you have to determine when you will run out by, and have more ordered by then, that way you can maximise sales, and minimise out of stocks.

[yod]

Not much use if you don't have anything in stock.

Also, why not just order some more as a standalone order, only ordering stock when you have nothing left is a pretty poor way to run a business, you have to determine when you will run out by, and have more ordered by then, that way you can maximise sales, and minimise out of stocks.

...and increase your risk.....

[Gubb]

...and increase your risk.....
of making more money?

If the product is as good as he's saying it is, it should sell itself.

[1tonne]

Not much use if you don't have anything in stock.

Also, why not just order some more as a standalone order, only ordering stock when you have nothing left is a pretty poor way to run a business, you have to determine when you will run out by, and have more ordered by then, that way you can maximise sales, and minimise out of stocks.

This was our first order for this stock and so therefore I only ordered the main sizes to see how well these boots sold. With all of our other products I normally do order the them before they run out but from time to time the market can be hard to judge, and on the odd occation I have ran out of some sizes.
Cheers:wavey:

[yod]

of making more money?

If the product is as good as he's saying it is, it should sell itself.

no....risk....capital investment with risk of no or low return....occurs in pretty much all businesses

[Gubb]

I know, sorry it was a cheap shot, I do run a business.

[davo]

I understand that its expensive, but thats why many Kiwi bikers on a small budget talk to me because we have a range of clearout gear which we are selling for a huge discount, this is the same spec that has been crashed by kiwibikers 55 times (that I know of) with all gear still being completely serviceable.
so talk to us and we will sought out a suitable deal for you:apint:


I just took Quasi up on this and got a jacket from last season that is good quality for a good price. Handling it I thought the leather and pads must of cost the sell price before the labor, so I am impressed. :yes:

[EFFBEE]

It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one too :) Quoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...

I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.

Anyway, back to what you asked. Unless someone has owned one, or you can have a look you can't really know. Ignore the "RRP" on anything you can't find in stores or at least someone else selling online, if they are the only importer they set the rrp, so really it means nothing. Quite a few trademe importers/seller try that one on.
Agree.As a teenager many years ago helped my dads mate who owned asecond hand furniture shop.He had a piano that cost $5 so he put it on the floor for $20. Nobody was interested cos it had one of its candlehlders missing(very old!). After a month on the floor, he took off the candle holder, filled all the screw holes and put the price up to $100 and sold it in a couple of days. "If You Get A 50 Dollar Helmet......"

[wild_qwerty]

I've been really impressed with this gear so far, it seems to be very robust and they have a return policy anyway so If you buy it and don't like it just send it back, nothing to lose by checking it out :) Besides they still fall under the Consumers Guarantee Act and the items therefore have 12 months warranty. If you crash and it breaks then your bike insurance should cover any damage to your gear as well as your bike.

Anyway the old sayings of 'you get what you pay for' might have been true years ago but in the modern global market its not really a real factor any more.

It's really quite a strange assumption that people make when they assume that cost = quality, the reason why so much stuff is cheap on Trademe is because the items are parallel imported and bypass the regional distributors, importers and wholesaler mark ups. I've seen top quality electronics on sale on trademe for less than I could buy them from our Wholesalers, why? Because the seller imported a load direct from the factory. I could show you numerous items that we pay significantly more for here in NZ than than elsewhere in the world, simply because it has to go through more "middle men" to get here.

Also most people selling items on line save a lot of money not having to rent a shop to sell their items from, so when you add up all these savings why are people surprised when an item on trademe is so much cheaper. It's not that the items are really that cheap but rather we have been over charged for so long here in NZ.

I say good on these guys selling this "Affordable Bikewear" because they are doing a lot of Kiwi Bikers a favour. How many newbie bikers or young kids on scooters have you seen riding with inappropriate pants,jackets gloves or not wearing any at all simply because the cost of "high quality" gear is probably more than their bikes cost!

Sorry for ranting...

[wickle]

It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one too :) Quoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...

I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.

Anyway, back to what you asked. Unless someone has owned one, or you can have a look you can't really know. Ignore the "RRP" on anything you can't find in stores or at least someone else selling online, if they are the only importer they set the rrp, so really it means nothing. Quite a few trademe importers/seller try that one on.
Its the same ticketing an item with a red card, people think cause the price is written on a red card they think the item is on special. or better still the old " last one in store" , what about the stock in the back room. Beware of the the wording when reading any blurb on a item for sale the whole idea is to sell you the goods.

[unrealone]

Besides they still fall under the Consumers Guarantee Act and the items therefore have 12 months warranty.

The CGA does not give you a default 12 Month Warranty as far as I'm aware. Most products will come with this however anything after that is a 'reasonable period' - go figure :P

[Nasty]

The CGA does not give you a default 12 Month Warranty as far as I'm aware. Most products will come with this however anything after that is a 'reasonable period' - go figure :P

Totally agree it doesn't .... it is about reasonable and expected use of an item. :)

[wild_qwerty]

I'm fairly certian that pretty much everything has to come with 12 months warranty which is why its a joke when a business advertises that it comes with this, because they have to provide it. The are exceptions such as second hand goods etc...

But you are correct, there are clauses that talk about "reasonable" or "fair" use of the product.

Anyway with sites like ebay and trademe just look at the persons feedback, if they are dodgy then its fairly easy to tell by looking at their feedback.

Off topic a bit about what this thread started out as sorry :Oops:

So back to the orignal topic.... I know a few people here have brought these one ton jackets etc... now that you've had them for a while what do you think?

I see that they are now selling helmets as well (so help me if one more person quotes that old saying about a $10 head, I'm gonna scream :wacko: )

On the website it says something about "These helmets have the highest possible European safety standard" I'm not sure what that is about. I'm guessing that it is at least comparable to a NZ safety standard but the site doesnt say.

[getafix]

Maybe, maybe not.

Ask me in 6 - 12 months how I like the jacket and if I would have wanted to pay another $100 or so for DriRider (etc) jacket and pants.

Ok it's now well over 6 months now Radar.How's the gear holding out?

[Radar]

Ok it's now well over 6 months now Radar.How's the gear holding out?

The gear is perfect. Really. Nothing wrong with it.
Jacket and pants are warm and waterproof *.
Pockets, zips, and vents are quite functional.
No rips or tears, no seams coming undone.
Since February I have clocked up over 10,000 km with the gear (I don't always wear the overpants since I now have Draggon jeans).

* No cordura bike gear is absolutely waterproof. I have read on KB stories of expensive cordura gear leaking, and my Ulysses Club friends tell me that their (expensive) cordura gear leaked - but this only happens when out in a very heavy rain for a long time. I have been in two torrential downpours, similar to what is in the tropics: one time my 1Tonne gear was completely waterproof and the other time the crotch leaked a bit and a bit opposite the elbow of each sleeve.

If you are looking for well made gear for the best price, go for 1Tonne. But if you want something to impress your friends at the race track, then be ready to shell out a heap of $$ on a label with status. I have two mates with jackets that cost over $500, one is leather, the other cordura. They are young guys without much money and in one sense I think they are silly to spend so much. On the other hand, being fashionable is very important to many people, bikers included. The right colour of bike jacket and helmet, the right label or brand, the fastest bike (even if you cannot ride it properly) - - all this can be very significant and important to some people. I know teenagers that spend $250 or more on a pair of sunglasses just because their mates will think it is cool. At the other extreme are people who don't mind getting sunnies or clothing from the $2 shop or the Warehouse. We each have our own values.

BTW, I have a gray and black touring jacket from 1Tonne, which is really good for cold days or rainy weather. Since I ordered my jacket (February) I see they now have shorter style jackets with red or blue trim - these look better imho.

[naphazoline]

Ok it's now well over 6 months now Radar.How's the gear holding out?

just incase you're interested,i bought some leather pants,and a leather jacket from 1 tonne in april this year.i too have clocked up over 10000kms in them and no problems.i can't say i've crashed in them,(thankfully) but they seem very sturdy.

however,i have lost about 5kg since then,and am finding them too loose now,particularly in the pants.

there's no doubt about it. you can definitely get better quality gear out there,but at a extremely dearer price,and for what you pay for 1 tonne,i fail to see how anyone can match his service.also,i see he's got a larger range of gear now then when i got mine.

:2thumbsup for 1 tonne.

[1tonne]

there's no doubt about it. you can definitely get better quality gear out there,but at a extremely dearer price,and for what you pay for 1 tonne.

Some of our new apperel is made by one of the top manufacturers in the world. I cannot say who they are but they are one of the top manufacturers for the MotoGP suits. Cheers.

[Gizzit]

Some of our new apperel is made by one of the top manufacturers in the world. I cannot say who they are but they are one of the top manufacturers for the MotoGP suits. Cheers.

That's for your leather gear ??

[1tonne]

Yes. That is for our leather Professional Suits. We have 6 manufacturers in total that we deal with.

[fire eyes]

I got my first lot of gear from 1tonne ... bought online but was able to go to the business itself in Eltham and try on the gears before purchasing .. was looking for a jacket .. came away with jacket/boots & helmet .. I was very pleased .. the owners were fantastic people to deal with .. I havent had much opportunity to try out my gears unfortunately .. but did manage to get a dry ride in before leaving the shores ... no problems at all .. gears were as snug as a bug, fit perfectly .. I bought them a couple of months ago so any info of interest that pops up with my gears Ill post ... but to date ... I am stoked with my purchases, big ups there 1TONNE!!!!!!!!!!! :2thumbsup

[1tonne]

Thanks Fire Eyes

[Gizzit]

Well ... my step son bought a jacket, trou, and a helmet from 1Tonne about 4 months ago, and he is very pleased with the quality of the gear. He has the plain black jacket - which isn't a flash job! but it is well made and functional. The zips are fine. He has stayed dry and warm over Winter/Spring and rides to work 5 days a week.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a jacket or trou from them based on quality and price. They have an excellent reputation on TradeMe based on customer feedback.
I think we are pretty fortunate to have some good reliable gear suppliers on this site. I tend to trust other bikers who sell or produce gear. They are more likely to understand what we want/need from a product.
Just my 2 cents worth.

[1tonne]

Cheers Gizzit.

[kiwi cowboy]

I got the touring boots and cordurer pants a while ago and have done some freakin cold rides round central otago and think there well made and extremly warm as ive never worn anything under the pants but shorts and never got cold.
And found them very easy to deal with reguarding questions and service.
cheers 1tonne

[lankyman]

Any body had anything to do with these jackets, seem cheap @$135 but are they any good?

I just brought a set of leathers ($250 for jacket and $165 for pants) and am incredibly happy with my purchase. It really is good quality stuff and I even mentioned that he should put his prices up to give the product more credibility. Done a couple of descent rides and are very comfortable and waterproof. Can not recommend highly enough. Excellent bloke to converse and deal with too :2thumbsup

[1tonne]

Cheers. Glad that you like the gear.

[portokiwi]

Cheers. Glad that you like the gear.

Yes I like your gear. I have 2 of the helmets with the visors. had no problems slight noise going at 100km.:niceone:

[1tonne]

Cheers for the feedback.

[Elysium]

I got myself some touring boots and Cordura from 1Tonne and they look good build for the price. My pants were the wrong size and thy had no problem with me sending them back to get another that fits.

Sure the gear aint flash or used by MotoGP but it so far looks and feels right and will do the job. I have yet to test in the rain as it's summer now but if I do I'll let you know how they hold up.

The only problem I had was with NZ Post taking so fraking long to deliver the goods.

[Newblade]

Find it kinda funny,that when checking out 1Tonne website,I see the Ballistic leather looks exactly like my OLD leather.Now a track day jacket only.
I have had said jacket for over 20years,and was told by another (unnamed) supplier at a Taupo track day that they aren't made like that anymore!!!!.
So for what its worth if the quality is the same it's a DAMN GOOD DEAL.:hug:

[Radar]

A couple of weeks ago I rode over to Taranaki and bought another touring jacket from 1Tonne. The new jacket has 6 air vents (2 in sleeves, 2 in chest, 2 in back), is a size smaller than my first jacket (fits better) and is red which I like better than boring gray and black.

Before I bought this new jacket I tried on quite a few jackets in 6 different bike shops. The DriRiders and similar jackets were of similar quality but cost way more and did not even have vents. The jackets that cost $350+ were better but for $135 I am happy with my 1Tonne jacket.

I now also have 1Tonne touring boots and they are great. Comparing these to the 6 shops I went to, they are similar to boots costing $200 - $300. What I like about the 1Tonne boots is that they open from both sides, not just the one side where the zip is located - this makes putting them on and taking off much easier.

I have not been in the rain yet with my new boots or jacket (except for a few brief showers) and if I find they leak I will come back here and post a note.

BTW I looked at all the gear 1Tonne (http://1tonne.co.nz/) has for sale and it is impressive. The leathers were very nice.

[1tonne]

Cheers Radar.
You will find the boots are excellant.
Cheers once again.

[Pixie]

* No cordura bike gear is absolutely waterproof. I have read on KB stories of expensive cordura gear leaking, and my Ulysses Club friends tell me that their (expensive) cordura gear leaked - but this only happens when out in a very heavy rain for a long time. I have been in two torrential downpours, similar to what is in the tropics: one time my 1Tonne gear was completely waterproof and the other time the crotch leaked a bit and a bit opposite the elbow of each sleeve.

.

Leakage in stress points such as these usually indicates the waterproof membrane has torn.

This will eventually happen to any textile bike garment.It is an indication of the quality of the design how long it takes to happen for a given rider.(type of usage/fit will affect this )
My first SPIDI jacket lasted 8 years.My current SPIDI jacket is a different style (not double breasted ) and will leak if not done up carefully.

[Oakie]

"Dredging up old threads? Guilty as charged your honour."

So users, three years on from the last post in this thread, how is your '1Tonne' jacket performing? I notice that they are still selling them on Trade Me and via their website.

I did notice that the only people that bagged them first time around weren't actually owners of said brand.

[TimeOut]

I love mine, good fit, great vents, and everything still works.
I haven't tried grinding it down the road yet (touch wood)

[Oakie]

I love mine, good fit, great vents, and everything still works.
I haven't tried grinding it down the road yet (touch wood)

What sort did you get?

[ynot slow]

Was in the Naki couple of weeks ago,so called into see Nathan,the range was good,the cordura jackets were good value,the $200 flouro jacket stands out for visibility and looks extremely weatherproof with the two liners.In fact am tempted to grab it when money is found.Leather is not bad either,depends on budget you have,but for value is good,compared to my Whites pants at $399,1 Tonne pants are as equal to them at a cheaper cost.Obviously if money was no issue there are other brands to try,and custom pants as well,but would I buy say Alpinestars at $699 or custom made for similar i'd go custom for sure.

[Oakie]

,the $200 flouro jacket stands out for visibility and looks extremely weatherproof with the two liners.

They certainly stand out on the road but I noticed a couple of flouro-jacket clad bikers in the supermarket on Friday without their helmets and they just looked geeky. NOTE TO SELF: If walking around in a flouro bike jacket, always carry your helmet so people know you are a safety conscious biker and not just a sad chappie with no dress sense.

I did look at the flouro one on their website but it was just a little too green for me. Took me back to my starting out days many years ago when I wore a bright orange ski jacket on the bike.

[baptist]

While I usually ride in leather I do have a set of 1 Tonne Cordura... Pants are pretty good, they do let water in during heavy rain, but I think most of these types of garments do. The jacket is good, I find it a little hot in summer even without the liner and with the vents open. Value for money I think the gear is pretty good actually. That's my 2c worth.

[TimeOut]

What sort did you get?

I've got the all seasons explorer

Only thing with it is the sizing is a bit smaller, I've got a 3XL but it's more the size of a 2XL.

[bluninja]

While I usually ride in leather I do have a set of 1 Tonne Cordura... Pants are pretty good, they do let water in during heavy rain, but I think most of these types of garments do. The jacket is good, I find it a little hot in summer even without the liner and with the vents open. Value for money I think the gear is pretty good actually. That's my 2c worth.

I've got the $200 flouro jacket and sportsbike trousers. Rode New Plymouth to Taupo, watched some wet racing on Saturday and rode home again in the wet. Top half bone dry, legs and feet bone dry. Had water seeping in under the jacket front and down the trousers, after about 260 kms in the wet out of 300kms on the way home.

Note the hi viz, really freaks sheep out.....stops them in their track, and requires 2-3 dogs and a farmbike to make them go past....the bike was on the verge with the engine and lights off, so it wasn't the bike.

[wingnutt]

know a few friends who have a 1tonne jacket and pants, and all very happy with the gear, I have pants,
and gloves from them, found them good quality I have no complaints also.