2009 RM125 Aluminium frame

[Danger]

Real or a conversion?

http://www.onthepiperacing.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=albun96

[YellowDog]

Nice idea for lightweight flyers but surely you need more strength, to take the knocks without bending, than Aluminium can provide for off roading?

[scott411]

Nice idea for lightweight flyers but surely you need more strength, to take the knocks without bending, than Aluminium can provide for off roading?

have you not seen a off road bike in the last 5 years????, nearly every japanese off road bike is now alloy framed, seems to last very well

[marks]

nearly every japanese off road bike is now alloy framed, seems to last very well

Are alloys frames better or is it just a marketing ploy?

[chop]

Awesome hope its real

[takitimu]

Are alloys frames better or is it just a marketing ploy?

A rumour I heard ( from memory on here ) was it was the cost of steel in Japan that drove the change.

[takitimu]

Are alloys frames better or is it just a marketing ploy?

A rumour I heard ( from memory on here ) was it was the cost of steel in Japan that drove the change.


Real or a conversion?

My read is conversion looking at the way the exhaust is mounted here http://www.onthepiperacing.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=albun96&id=6_G

Just a guess though.

[scott411]

Are alloys frames better or is it just a marketing ploy?

thier is an argument that way, even on street bikes, hard to tell where steel frames would be with the devolpment put thier way,

[chop]

A rumour I heard ( from memory on here ) was it was the cost of steel in Japan that drove the change.



My read is conversion looking at the way the exhaust is mounted here http://www.onthepiperacing.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=albun96&id=6_G

Just a guess though.

That mount looks ok. Its hard to tell though if its a conversion its a really good one

[scott411]

i would say its a conversion, done somewhere in europe, and a very good one at that,
i say this because it has a Bud racing pipe on it, who are french based, and have no ties with suzuki, if it was a preduction one it would be done in japan,

[YellowDog]

have you not seen a off road bike in the last 5 years????, nearly every japanese off road bike is now alloy framed, seems to last very well
Alloy and Aluminium are not the same.

[takitimu]

Alloy and Aluminium are not the same.

I think you'll find motorcycle frames use an aluminium based alloy, not pure aluminium.

[umka]

What is the next step in the evolution of the motorcylce, polymer frames? Maybe this has already been started with the Husenburg subframe?????

[cheese]

Hmm carbon fibre.........

[-df-]

What is the next step in the evolution of the motorcylce, polymer frames? Maybe this has already been started with the Husenburg subframe?????


http://science.howstuffworks.com/nanotechnology2.htm

Quote: "With the right arrangement of atoms, you can create a carbon nanotube that's hundreds of times stronger than steel, but six times lighter [source: The Ecologist]. Engineers plan to make building material out of carbon nanotubes, particularly for things like cars and airplanes. Lighter vehicles would mean better fuel efficiency, and the added strength translates to increased passenger safety."

Sounds good to me :)

[cheese]

Personally I like Ali better cause it doesn't have to be painted and it doesn't rust!

[Buddy L]

Hmm carbon fibre.........


Carbon fibre would be so ridge, with no fex your soon to lose your fillings:(.
I also say conversion.. But very nice.

[nonferrous]

Aluminium alloy is more expensive to produce and fabricate into finished product like bike frames etc than steel.

A well designed aluminium alloy bike frame is substantially lighter than a steel one for the same amount of strength.

The automotive industry is trying to take weight out of vehicles for performance and fuel effeciency reasons.

Soon you will start to see new welding technology introduced into aluminium fabrication so we can all look forward to even lighter, stronger & higher performance motor vehicles incl bikes

[Coyote]

Steel isn't so obsolete is it?

Keen to make a streetfighter at home so steel and a MIG would be easier and cheaper. At least to get a first version going, would love to learn to TIG.

[nonferrous]

no steel is not obsolete for bikes like choppers & low performance farm machinery - but the future is complex metal matrix composites & fabrication process technology development

[crazyxr250rider]

I Want one!!!!!!!!