Disaster planning?

[Disco Dan]

Who here has a civil defence kit in their home? What about at work?

Your employer is legally bound to have a kit to cover all it's employees, but what about your home? You car?

I'm the Health and Safety rep for over 40 people and have just recently been investigating this and setting up a kit for all the staff and clients on the facility.

Can get quite expensive, but for your average home - you most likely already have a lot of the things you would need.

Think though - water how many of you actually have water stored away, enough for everyone in your household to drink/wash/toilet and change it every 3 months?? I certainly do !

Think about cash - I just heard on the radio how some people always make sure they have some cash for emergencies. ATM's dont work in a black out ;)


So what have you got in place for your home/work/car?



Me:

Work = fully comprehensive civil defence kit
Home = fully comprehensive civil defence kit
bike = first aid kit, torch and selected tools as well as travel phone charger.

[Disco Dan]

Link to employers CD Kit:

http://www.civildefence.govt.nz/memwebsite.nsf/Files/cd-cabinets/$file/cd-cabinets.pdf


Also, if your work place does not have one - and you want a link to the H&S laws saying its law, let me know ;)

[LilSel]

we have them at work... have to change the water in the drums monthly.

also sell them at work... so if ya want one... PM away lol :)

[Boob Johnson]

The health n safety rep rides a big nasty motorbike, oh the irony :laugh:


ps: yep have one here at work/home but not the car

[Disco Dan]

The health n safety rep rides a big nasty motorbike, oh the irony :laugh:


ps: yep have one here at work/home but not the car

hell yeah ! :devil2:

So what happens if disaster strikes while your driving?

You will need to contact family members, get to point of safety etc etc

[Boob Johnson]

hell yeah ! :devil2:

So what happens if disaster strikes while your driving?

You will need to contact family members, get to point of safety etc etc
If it's raining, needs more than three seats or im doin the groceries then I drive & it's all city stuff. Other than that it's all on two wheels :ride:

[Dave-]

I DO NOT NEED WATER, IN A TIME OF EMERGENCY I WILL HUNT BEER!

i live on the second floor so ill just stay shit faced for the whole thing...wait the beer is down stairs...

alex, get me a cold one yeh?

[Disco Dan]

I have a emergency bottle of wine. Used to have an emergency box of beer.. but I drank it. Was not even an emergency hehe

[barty5]

bike = first aid kit, torch and selected tools as well as travel phone charger.
you for spare navman charger i remember you needing one a while back.

[Morcs]

I think its a load of crap. In the event of a disaster Ill cope and im sure lots of others will without some red tape.

Survival of the fittest. The government is trying to interfere with nature and evolution.

[jrandom]

Civil defence kit? I have an M14 and several thousand rounds of ammunition.

Way I figure it, when disaster strikes, some sorry-arse unarmed motherfucker's gonna give me their water.

:done:

[sunhuntin]

nothing at home or at work... we have a first aid kit, but thats it! but then again, my emplyoers crap for following laws, so somehow im not surprised.

[martybabe]

Civil defence kit? I have an M14 and several thousand rounds of ammunition.

Way I figure it, when disaster strikes, some sorry-arse unarmed motherfucker's gonna give me their water.

:done:

Haha,I got one of them,(the end is nigh fellas) across the way from me.He's stockpiling apples for the end of days.Guess where I'm going if I get hungry.:lol:

Giz them apples :girlfight:

[Disco Dan]

Civil defence kit? I have an M14 and several thousand rounds of ammunition.

Way I figure it, when disaster strikes, some sorry-arse unarmed motherfucker's gonna give me their water.

:done:

riiiight... so while your sitting there fiddling about loading it, somone can just give you a quick bop and take your stuff! :chase:


..Seriously though, it is worth thinking about - we are living in a volatile country (compared to others) and with global warming and the weather becoming more and more extreme each year - something big happening in the next few years or so is a very real possibility.

[gunnyrob]

Hey Disco, I'm in the Air force, so in the event of a disaster, we'll be either getting the choppers off to where they'll be needed or we'll be filling sandbags etc.

Tax dollars in action! :niceone:

[Disco Dan]

Hey Disco, I'm in the Air force, so in the event of a disaster, we'll be either getting the choppers off to where they'll be needed or we'll be filling sandbags etc.

Tax dollars in action! :niceone:

cool, well i'll send u my co-ordinates hehe

[Trudes]

Being a Cancerian, I naturally prepare for everything. Under my bike seat I have pen, paper, first aid kit, tools etc. Boot of the car everything form spare clothes and toiletries to first aid kit, tools and spare water etc. At home we have a stock-pile of bottled water, tinned food, battries, radio and torch and toilet paper.
Yes, toilet paper. I hate running out of toilet paper so always buy it when it's on special, and seeing as there's only two of us living here we have tons. A friend came to stay for a few days and hasseled the crap out of me about my paper stock-pile, and we decided that if ever there was a disaster we could trade toilet paper for food!

[MsKABC]

Hubby has been talking about doing this for ages. One day he'll get round to it I guess. :rolleyes: To be fair, we do have most of the 'ingredients' for it in the house/garage, just need to put it all together and store it.

What about what actions you will take in the event of an emergency, especially an evacuation? Our plan is for me to disappear to the in-law's farm, where they are mainly self-sufficient (think lots of vegies, beef in the paddock, tank water and a generator, etc) and they are easy to reach from where we are.

The concerning factor for me is that because of hubby's job, he would be required to stay behind in the event of an evacuation to assist with disaster control, cleanup, maintaining services, blah blah. Not a nice thought to have to leave him :(

What about your pets? Way I see it, it will take me 5 minutes to hook up the dog trailer and throw the mutleys in, and if I can catch the cats then they'd come too. Not too sure about the bird..... :scratch:

[Disco Dan]

Being a Cancerian, I naturally prepare for everything. Under my bike seat I have pen, paper, first aid kit, tools etc. Boot of the car everything form spare clothes and toiletries to first aid kit, tools and spare water etc. At home we have a stock-pile of bottled water, tinned food, battries, radio and torch and toilet paper.
Yes, toilet paper. I hate running out of toilet paper so always buy it when it's on special, and seeing as there's only two of us living here we have tons. A friend came to stay for a few days and hasseled the crap out of me about my paper stock-pile, and we decided that if ever there was a disaster we could trade toilet paper for food!

very impressive Mrs K ! :rockon:


Hubby has been talking about doing this for ages. One day he'll get round to it I guess. :rolleyes: To be fair, we do have most of the 'ingredients' for it in the house/garage, just need to put it all together and store it.

What about what actions you will take in the event of an emergency, especially an evacuation? Our plan is for me to disappear to the in-law's farm, where they are mainly self-sufficient (think lots of vegies, beef in the paddock, tank water and a generator, etc) and they are easy to reach from where we are.

The concerning factor for me is that because of hubby's job, he would be required to stay behind in the event of an evacuation to assist with disaster control, cleanup, maintaining services, blah blah. Not a nice thought to have to leave him :(

What about your pets? Way I see it, it will take me 5 minutes to hook up the dog trailer and throw the mutleys in, and if I can catch the cats then they'd come too. Not too sure about the bird..... :scratch:

as long as the farm is not in a low lying area prone to flooding?

would it be safe if a tsunami hit?

[Steam]

We have about 2 weeks food at our place, horrible tinned beef and beans and stuff. And water for a week. Four litres a day x four people x 7 days.


... trying to interfere with nature and evolution
If you think about it, interfering with nature and evolution is called "civilisation".
Humans do it really well, and it's the reason why we have become the dominant species (for now).
If we didn't interfere with nature and evolution, we wouldn't have houses, electricity, crops or deliberately grown food, hell, we wouldn't even have bows and arrows. That's interfering with nature. We'd have to catch wild food with our bare hands and eat it raw in a cave.

Survival of the fittest means 99% of the people you call friends and family will die horribly, leaving the last 1% alive in desperation and ruin, subsistence living.

[The Pastor]

in a big enough distaster the atms wont work, without a crowbar that is :D

[MsKABC]

as long as the farm is not in a low lying area prone to flooding?

would it be safe if a tsunami hit?


We have discussed/considered this and feel that it is safe. Far enough inshore that a tsunami shouldn't be an issue. I have had the same thoughts, but hubby thinks there is no problem.

[Mike748]

I think its a load of crap. In the event of a disaster Ill cope and im sure lots of others will without some red tape.

Survival of the fittest. The government is trying to interfere with nature and evolution.

You may well cope but there will be thousands who won't, and you don't have to spend a fortune to prepare, just having a stock of tinned or dried foods in the kitchen is a start and a backup gas bottle for the BBQ for cooking and boiling water.

Something as simple as a sustained power outage will cause major grief if it were to go on for a few days, for many no power = no water, no phones, no fuel, no heating, no cooking.

And that's before the panic sets in.

[Morcs]

Looting is the way forward.

[MsKABC]

If you think about it, interfering with nature and evolution is called "civilisation".
Humans do it really well, and it's the reason why we have become the dominant species (for now).
If we didn't interfere with nature and evolution, we wouldn't have houses, electricity, crops or deliberately grown food, hell, we wouldn't even have bows and arrows. That's interfering with nature. We'd have to catch wild food with our bare hands and eat it raw in a cave.

.

Actually, civilisation is evolution. Evolution takes several forms - cultural, technological, biological.

It's a really interesting topic, and raises the question: "Are humans stunting their biological evolution via enhanced technological and cultural evolution?" E.g. medical technologies allowing people to stay alive (and breed) when once upon a time they would have died. Our cultural evolution also encourages this sort of thing to take place.

:scratch:

[peasea]

Actually, civilisation is evolution. Evolution takes several forms - cultural, technological, biological.

It's a really interesting topic, and raises the question: "Are humans stunting their biological evolution via enhanced technological and cultural evolution?" E.g. medical technologies allowing people to stay alive (and breed) when once upon a time they would have died. Our cultural evolution also encourages this sort of thing to take place.

:scratch:

Don't forget the baking evolution, there was a time when mum baked everything that was wholesome right at home, barefoot and preggy, but now you just rock down to Foodtown and bang it on the plastic. What's the world coming to?

[sinfull]

In case of emergency ??
Why i have a spare bike of course !!!

[Mike748]

Looting is the way forward.

Each to their own, but it would be safer facing the disaster than looting private property. This isn't called "the wild west" for nothing. :laugh:

[Mike748]

Don't forget the baking evolution, there was a time when mum baked everything that was wholesome right at home, barefoot and preggy, but now you just rock down to Foodtown and bang it on the plastic. What's the world coming to?

Have you also noticed how empty shop shelves get around xmas public holidays?
In the constant strive for bottom line profits shops are not carrying stock, instead they rely on frequent orders and deliveries. Interrupt that routine and the shelves empty PDQ!

As consumers many of us stop off to buy supplies for dinner on the way home from work, we are so used to things being available we do not stock supplies ourselves.

[MsKABC]

Don't forget the baking evolution, there was a time when mum baked everything that was wholesome right at home, barefoot and preggy, but now you just rock down to Foodtown and bang it on the plastic. What's the world coming to?


Hey! I bake! Just ask Mike748 about my baking. Afghans, banana cake, chocolate chippies, peanut brownies - all the old favourites. Although he can't eat it at the moment coz he's on a diet :bleh: :dodge:

Can't remember if I baked when I was pregnant or whether it was barefoot..... :scratch:

[peasea]

Hey! I bake! Just ask Mike748 about my baking. Afghans, banana cake, chocolate chippies, peanut brownies - all the old favourites. Although he can't eat it at the moment coz he's on a diet :bleh: :dodge:

Can't remember if I baked when I was pregnant or whether it was barefoot..... :scratch:


You've baked Afghans? The race relations board would have a field day!

[Ixion]

Not half so much as they did over the coconut slice.

[AllanB]

Man its bad enough trying to pay the family food bill weekly - little loan store a couple of weeks worth of additional food. When the shit hits the fan I have enough petrol stored in a can in the shed to allow be to drive down to the local supermarket and join the looters :nono: Fuck it - I'll hitch up the trailer as well :innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Survival of the fittest means 99% of the people you call friends and family will die horribly, leaving the last 1% alive in desperation and ruin, subsistence living.

The upside is that us survivors get to repopulate the planet, and impose our way of doing things. Women will become valuable commodoties again, and ones wealth measured in the strength of one's arm, the command of legions, and how many children survive to old age (which will be 25).

I for one am looking forward to it. Ive got all my bases covered, plus a few of yours as well.

[MsKABC]

You've baked Afghans? The race relations board would have a field day!

Yeah, and man, what a sod of a job it was getting the icing to stick! :wacko:

[Trudes]

The upside is that us survivors get to repopulate the planet, and impose our way of doing things. Women will become valuable commodoties again, and ones wealth measured in the strength of one's arm, the command of legions, and how many children survive to old age (which will be 25).

I for one am looking forward to it. Ive got all my bases covered, plus a few of yours as well.

Well I will be very much a valuable commodity!! I am of breeding age, no sprogs already, good child bearing hips, can cook and have tons of toilet paper!:laugh:

[Kittyhawk]

curious to know why a torch, batteries always run flat!

3 families in our block of flats came over cold and had no torches (they were all unprepared) so with enough body heat and candles ithe lounge was warm and snug.

Few days ago there was a power cut for most of the day (replacing power poles in the street) so just fired up the bbq, found a hand held radio coocked up a decent feed and listened to music lol. Im sure the workers were mouthwatering at my sirloin aroma drifting past them.

I wouldnt say Im prepared, as in dont have an actual kit, but have enough candles, food and there are bottles of water stored (for the car back in the day) to last bout 3 weeks. Shopping for 1 is great lol!!

my parents are more self sufficient - dad makes his own power and thats not using a generator...enough to run a 14 inch tv couple of light bulbs and thats it ...they are building a house on a lifestyle block. They grow all their fruits and vegetables, preserve the fruits (sometimes up to 250 bottles in a summer) of grapes feajoas loquots kiwifruit and figs and peaches. They have always done this guess its old school lol. Recently they are getting more into dehydration of fruits and preserving this way as an alternative. Also buy half a beast and store it in the freezer, have gas back up cookers, endless supply of firewood for the fires etc..

Yup they are a classic example of how the earlier generations used to be, very set in their ways and its nice to step back and appreciate all the hard work that they did while i was growing up.:hug:

[Trudes]

It's amazing what you can cook on a BBQ if you have to, so make sure you always have a full gas bottle! (or wood if you're the rustic type)

[peasea]

Yeah, and man, what a sod of a job it was getting the icing to stick! :wacko:

Try blending it with camel dung, I hear that works on seared and seasoned Namibians.

[peasea]

Well I will be very much a valuable commodity!! I am of breeding age, no sprogs already, good child bearing hips, can cook and have tons of toilet paper!:laugh:


I could say something about wiping the smirk off your face................

[MsKABC]

Try blending it with camel dung, I hear that works on seared and seasoned Namibians.

Okey dokey, thanks! Any suggestions for where to stick the walnut?

[peasea]

Okey dokey, thanks! Any suggestions for where to stick the walnut?

Oh that's easy, right eye socket!

[MsKABC]

It's amazing what you can cook on a BBQ if you have to, so make sure you always have a full gas bottle! (or wood if you're the rustic type)

You are a woman after my husband's own heart! :yes: He cooks BROCOLLI on the bbq FFS! :sick:

[MsKABC]

Oh that's easy, right eye socket!

Thanks! That sounds much easier than where I had been putting it! :wacko: