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bmz2
3rd June 2008, 01:12
Just arrived home from OZ on Sunday , phone rings and it's another cruiser , phone call goes as this " Toaster has gone down on hw 22 and he is being rushed to Waikato hospital , get hold of his wife" . So i ring and Di is already in the car racing to Waikato. .As the night run into the morning we find out a bloody sheep has got out of a paddock and run across the road in front of him, he slapped the brakes on and the bike went out side ways and him and the bike sliding sideways down 22 , bike into one side of the ditch and Toaster on the other side ditch . 40min later he is on the way to waikato , with breathing problems and chest pains + back pain. We recovered the bike today tank damage , exhaust,bars,indicators, engine guards, mirrors and a few more bits laying around the road.

We would like to thank the families who came to help last night. And to johnnyflash and the nzcruiser group

Toaster has broken ribs, head trauma, and back problems due to a older back problem, he is expected to make a full recovery, and is also to be brought back to Auckland this week

98tls
3rd June 2008, 01:26
Thoughts to him and family.......heal up quick.

fLaThEaD FreD
3rd June 2008, 06:29
Get well soon Toaster..........and welcome to the Broken ribs club. Just remember to Hug urself tight when you cough and fart.:done:

riffer
3rd June 2008, 06:30
Yuck. Not good news. Give our best to Cameron.

Pussy
3rd June 2008, 07:54
Aww crap! Heal quickly, Toaster. Thinking of you, mate

Maha
3rd June 2008, 08:00
Head Trauma?... now he wont remember that time I......:innocent:
A few txt were sent back and forth yesterday with Cam, nice to know his fingers still work, means he can still point and give orders...:shifty:
Cheers bmz2 ... heal quick Cam, bugger you can now no longer make the 28th.

Mom
3rd June 2008, 08:13
He has a tough nut! Not a good look though really Toaster, your beautiful, shiney bike :weep:

Still, any off you get to "sort of" walk away from makes up for a damaged bike. Take care now mate, heal quickly, we will miss you on June 28th!

jrandom
3rd June 2008, 08:17
Bugger! The were-sheep strike again, eh?

Best of luck to Toaster, glad to hear none of the injuries were too serious.

Might be time to ditch that M109R and swap to a nice safe sprotbike!

chubby
3rd June 2008, 08:30
My condolences to Toaster and i hope he has a speedy recovery. Seems to be the weekend for it I'm afraid.

skelstar
3rd June 2008, 08:36
Thats no good Toaster. Heal up quick.

RantyDave
3rd June 2008, 08:38
Toaster has broken ribs, head trauma, and back problems due to a older back problem
Ahhhh bugger. That's gotta hurt, but it will get better. Best of luck to Toaster and tell him to tap those bastards for Codeine - it's the good stuff.

Dave

MSTRS
3rd June 2008, 08:42
Tough break (pun intended). Hope that healing is quick as can be. Is the bike a write-off?? She sure was a pretty one. :weep:
And as a pre-emptive strike, are we blaming the sheep or rider inattention? Cos Katman is sure to be along shortly, and we need to get our stories straight.

gijoe1313
3rd June 2008, 08:44
:no: Crikey, sorry to hear about that ... good to hear hes in safe hands and being sorted out. Good on you for sorting it all out ASAP.

yod
3rd June 2008, 08:46
ribs are an arse

feel better mate

tri boy
3rd June 2008, 09:45
PM me if I can be any help in Hamilhole.
Take it easy Toaster.:cool:

hellkat
3rd June 2008, 11:36
Hope the bloke involved is okay.

Broken ribs and a dodgy back made worse is bad enough, but "head trauma" covers a wide spectrum of stuff, and can creep out and bite ya in the arse when you aren't expecting it.

A mate of mine fell off a motorway overbridge and headbutted the M25 a while back (a work accident, not a bike one), and he's still not back to work, much to his annoyance - and he's no skiver. He seems pretty much back to his normal obnoxious self, and is fit as a flea physically, but he (almost) admitted to me once that he tires more easily than he used to - his longsuffering Mrs and his bro's have been rock solid support for him, but I know he finds it frustrating.

So I hope yer man makes a full recovery from all his injuries, speedily.

Bloody sheep, eh :oi-grr:

Meekey_Mouse
3rd June 2008, 11:41
Oh, no... That sucks. Sorry to hear 'bout the bin. All the best for a speedy and full recovery :) if there is anything I can do to help here in Taupo just send me a PM.

fLaThEaD FreD
3rd June 2008, 18:17
It gives u constipation,and we all know a blocked arse aint nice!!!!!!........i've still got my bottle........now Tramadol and ibuprofen together does the good job.......oh yeahhhhhhhhh:banana:


Ahhhh bugger. That's gotta hurt, but it will get better. Best of luck to Toaster and tell him to tap those bastards for Codeine - it's the good stuff.

Dave

Wingnut
3rd June 2008, 18:49
Sorry to hear that. Hope the Toaster is back up and recovering well asap.

All the best.

Boob Johnson
3rd June 2008, 19:32
Wishing you a speedie recovery Toaster :grouphug:





Just remember to Hug urself tight when you cough and fart.:done:
lol yup thats about the size of it. Also laughing is not actually that funny, that I can say first hand :(

fireball
3rd June 2008, 19:56
so that means toaster wont be taking me for that ride?
my love for sheep has now changed :lol:


on a serious note..... heal fast buddy and ill bring you that coffee that we have been putting off for the past 6 months

Usarka
3rd June 2008, 20:00
bugger dude hope you're better by the time you read this....


Head Trauma?... now he wont remember that time I......:innocent:

but he'll still wonder why his **** is so sore! :devil2: :lol:

fLaThEaD FreD
3rd June 2008, 20:08
The weekafter my bin and stuck at home, my partner thought I might like to have an nice outing and sidewalk coffee and cake. Sittin in the sun,arm in a sling and a walking stick held bentween my legs sippin on a latte ,surrounded by,the lunch crowd,when some went down the wrong way and made me cough....WRONG MOVE!!!!!!! I couldnt hold it a sprayed the two old dears sittin at the table beside us,F&*%K that hurt..........It was just then I decided I DONT WANT TO TARMAC SURF EVER AGAIN!!!!!
Once again Toaster.....speedy recovery...remember the pills wash down easier with Jack!:drinkup:


Wishing you a speedie recovery Toaster :grouphug:





lol yup thats about the size of it. Also laughing is not actually that funny, that I can say first hand :(

stify
3rd June 2008, 20:33
heal fast Toaster

plenty of stock out an about atm...came across this dick herding a flock of sheep up a road in hunua yesterday by himself...glad I ride like a nana..take care peeps

1 Free Man
3rd June 2008, 20:33
:argh:Gee's don't ya just hate it when shit happens. Sorry to read about ya spill Toaster. Take care buddy and heal fast. :niceone: Don't know if there's a mrs Toaster but hope things are OK with you and He doesn't drive you up the wall when he's home mending.

bmz2
3rd June 2008, 23:45
Toasters update, he is on the mend, he is asking if the farmer is being charged with sheep getting out of the paddock:jerry:, he is cleared to to come back to Auckland ,. he is still having memory lose. hang on he had that before he had the off:doh:. now the point is to get him back on the bike. maybe he will have a new m109r , if not I'll rebuild it and put training wheels on it:rolleyes:

shafty
4th June 2008, 00:12
Crumbs Toaster, sorry to hear of your "off" - and pleased to hear at least you are on the mend.

All the best for a smooth recovery and great attention from your Nurse(s)

Shafty

Shadows
4th June 2008, 00:26
Awww shit. Stupid fucking animals.
Glad to hear you got off fairly lightly though... get well soon dude.

TOTO
4th June 2008, 00:44
Get well soon Toaster. Best wishes for speedy recovery.

Mom
4th June 2008, 07:56
Toasters update, he is on the mend, he is asking if the farmer is being charged with sheep getting out of the paddock:jerry:, he is cleared to to come back to Auckland ,. he is still having memory lose. hang on he had that before he had the off:doh:. now the point is to get him back on the bike. maybe he will have a new m109r , if not I'll rebuild it and put training wheels on it:rolleyes:


The farmer should be charged too. Tell Toaster not to be too concerned about the bike I reckon that damage will buff out no worries :yes:

yungatart
4th June 2008, 08:20
The farmer should be charged too. Tell Toaster not to be too concerned about the bike I reckon that damage will buff out no worries :yes:

My thoughts exactly!
Get well soon, Toaster!

MadDuck
4th June 2008, 08:26
now the point is to get him back on the bike. maybe he will have a new m109r , if not I'll rebuild it and put training wheels on it:rolleyes:

Great to hear your on the mend Toaster.....training wheels - now thats just a bit unfair <_<

Mom
4th June 2008, 08:28
training wheels - now thats just a bit unfair <_<

Funny though :dodge:

PrincessBandit
4th June 2008, 08:29
Sorry to hear about your accident. Bikes are replaceable, people are not. Glad to hear you're on the mend; take it easy and heal well. My thoughts with your family as well, having 'dad' out of action.

jrandom
4th June 2008, 09:11
I bet I know where the crash was. There's always sheep wandering about in the ditch or on the road there.

This wouldn't be the first time someone's binned on 22 due to stock on the road.

Robbo
4th June 2008, 09:25
Hey Toaster. Sorry to hear the bad news. I hope you make a full and speedy recovery.
Take Care
Robbo

sinfull
4th June 2008, 09:47
It gives u constipation,and we all know a blocked arse aint nice!!!!!!........i've still got my bottle........now Tramadol and ibuprofen together does the good job.......oh yeahhhhhhhhh:banana:

You watch them trammies they'll have you nodding off on the... what was i saying ??? Awww yeah them trams, codies and bourbon = no blockage lol trammies and bourbon mmmm ... where am i ?

Get well soon toaster !!!

90s
4th June 2008, 10:21
Get well soon toaster. Pity your beautiful bike is damaged - I saw it that one time on the road and it was boooootiful.

Toaster has made excellent contributions to discussions on safety and personal responsibility on KB, and there has been debate about whether some accidents are really accidents or preventable, and this one seems to fall into the "just bad luck" category. We're all bikers and to ride past walking pace (as Ixion points out) there is always some risk. Bikes can be mended, I hope Toaster get back on his feet OK soon. I know he'll be back, and hopefully soon.

deanohit
4th June 2008, 11:00
Good luck with the recovery Toaster.

Cr1MiNaL
4th June 2008, 21:24
heal well dude...

chanceyy
5th June 2008, 08:45
Ouchy damn blardy sheep .. heal fast Toaster :hug:

Maha
8th June 2008, 21:12
Called in to see Toaster today...mmmmm didnt know that they locked the doors till visiting hours begin, at 2pm...short wait, short visit, seems they let him go home today, got a 20 min visit, the laughing doesn't seem to hurt to much Cam!....Hope you dont have to many sheepless nights in your own bed mate....:rolleyes:

Daffyd
8th June 2008, 21:47
Get well soon, buddy!

YellowDog
8th June 2008, 21:58
That's good news Toaster's on the mend.

I guess in the same situation I would try and hit the sheep straight on. I suppose if you have a chance of missing it, you will always try to do so. I love the M109. Had a short blast on one a couple of months ago. Not the most manouverable of vehicles though.

Bests...........

windingroad
8th June 2008, 21:58
Sorry to hear about your off mate, get well and back on 2wheels soon!

Toaster
9th June 2008, 16:16
Toasters update, he is on the mend....

Thanks especially to bmz and my fellow cruiser riders for being there for me and helping me in my time of need so far from home and help. Also a big thanks to all my biker brethren and sisters who took the time and effort to visit, contact me and send well wishes.

I can't be thankful enough that I am still here to see my family and friends again. I don't recall much of the day-ride or even the days following, more like photo shot memories.

Apparently a sheep ran out on a corner as I came around but double-backed on me as I tried to avoid it. Fortunately I managed to bleed off enough speed to impact at a relatively slow speed after the front locked up. Yet the score ended at Sheep 1, Toaster 0.

I have not seen my bike (excluding the pics) but obviously all my riding gear was destroyed - but it did its job saving my life and also from more serious injury and that is the main thing.

As far as injuries go I suffered concussion, some slipped disks and joints in my lower and upper back, a few broken ribs, heavy bruising to my right shoulder, hip/butt, leg and left wrist (now I think my watch strap caused that.....hmmmm....). While at Waikato Hospital I suffered a PE (clot in the lung) so am being treated for that for the next 3-6 months to hopefully prevent a major clot having its wicked way with me.

I feel like I have had more drugs in me than a p-lab and tinnie house on the corner of Amsterdams red-light district. Why is it them medical people kept sticking things up my bum I don't know.

I guess time will tell as to what will become of my bike. Sadly Di had been thinking of getting gear and going pillion prior to last Sunday's events... but is now dead-set against me riding ever again, especially with a young family. Understandable she would feel that way in the circumstances.

Time will heal, time will tell.

Thankyou all. Ride to survive. :scooter:
Cam "Toaster" Brooks.

NZsarge
9th June 2008, 16:27
Glad to hear your on the mend mate.

Maha
9th June 2008, 16:36
Why is it them medical people kept sticking things up my bum I don't know.


They really need to, they just enjoy it....do you feel violated?...:(

chanceyy
9th June 2008, 16:37
Those damn sheep are getting up the count against us bikers Cam

damn glad your here to tell us about it though, Heal fast mate :)

Pussy
9th June 2008, 16:59
Great to see you posting again, Cam :niceone:
There was probably no real requirement for butt administered medication, the hospital people were probably just having a bit of fun :bleh:
Get well soon, mate
Cheers

Pedrostt500
9th June 2008, 17:26
Bummer about the off, Heal quick, and turn the sheep magnet off on country roads.

jrandom
9th June 2008, 17:57
dead-set against me riding ever again

Arrrghhh!

Bloody women.

We get on the bike knowing the risks, knowing that we're rolling the dice and happy to do so, but somehow, females seem to have a special knack with the ridiculous argument that goes:

A. You've just crashed, and I either:

(a) had no idea that that was a possibility; or

(b) had no idea that if that happened you'd get hurt, not to mention that

B. The fact that you have crashed makes me think that you are more, rather than less, likely to crash again in the future.

Of course, they're completely unreceptive to any attempts to point out the idiocy of A or the fallacy of B.

:brick:

I'm afraid I grow rather exercised when this topic comes up. No disrespect intended to your good lady, Toaster. It's just that I've run into the same thing and know the frustration of dealing with such irrationality. I've no patience with women who hide behind their volatile emotions.

Here's hoping that you and the missus come to a satisfactory compromise that doesn't force you to choose between her and the bike, and here's doubly hoping that your various bumps and bangs heal up nice and quick.

:apint:

skelstar
9th June 2008, 18:13
Good to see you posting again T. Yeah, funny how those about you assume you're going to give up the riding lark... and are surprised when you tell them otherwise.

jafar
9th June 2008, 18:15
Mate sorry to hear what happened, there are however a few questions that need to be addressed.
1/What were you doing on 22 without me in the first place?:nono:
2/Is the 'commando' sheep that tried so valiantly to make your life even more miserable than it already was ok? :innocent:
3/Did flossy put her up to it?:shutup:
4/Are you sure this wasn't just Blane trying to get his fingers on the other evil twin??:woohoo:







p/t

Toaster
10th June 2008, 14:33
Mate sorry to hear what happened, there are however a few questions that need to be addressed.
1/What were you doing on 22 without me in the first place?:nono:
2/Is the 'commando' sheep that tried so valiantly to make your life even more miserable than it already was ok? :innocent:
3/Did flossy put her up to it?:shutup:
4/Are you sure this wasn't just Blane trying to get his fingers on the other evil twin??:woohoo:
p/t

Answers to above questions:
1. You left the sodding country just before I finally made it to 22!! Hopefully both myself and the bike will be up and running by the time you are back mate.

2. It's the one that got away. I sacrificed my arse for the sake of someones future woolly jumper.

3. Probably... flossy and I broke up over a lack of green pasture. She is bitter.

4. bmz and I are close mates but not THAT close!!!! Although he does like to wear them fingerless gloves... hmmmmm....

Toaster
10th June 2008, 14:40
Thanks all for all your comments.... really appreciate it. I seem to be healing up fast so I hope that trend continues.

:rockon:

fireball
10th June 2008, 14:41
so toaster how do you like your coffee? got tommrow off if you feel like a little visitor on a little cruiser....

The Pastor
10th June 2008, 15:15
Sorry to hear that toaster, glad your alive and (all things considerd) in reasonable health.

SH22 give me the shits, ive only been down it once when i havnt binned, or somone else binned or an engine blew up.

jrandom
10th June 2008, 19:19
SH22 give me the shits, ive only been down it once when i havnt binned, or somone else binned or an engine blew up.

:blink:

It's not the road that should be giving you the shits, it's your riding abilities, your mates' riding abilities, and the state of repair of your motorcycles!

SH22 is currently in the best condition I've seen it in for years.

RC1
10th June 2008, 19:40
SH22 is currently in the best condition I've seen it in for years.

agreed flew down it the other day twice :scooter:

The Pastor
10th June 2008, 19:53
:blink:

It's not the road that should be giving you the shits, it's your riding abilities, your mates' riding abilities, and the state of repair of your motorcycles!

SH22 is currently in the best condition I've seen it in for years.

too many livestock and beez

jrandom
10th June 2008, 21:18
too many livestock and beez

True; a couple of months back I rode down 22 and caught a wasp in the neck. They always manage to get a sting in, don't they?

bmz2
10th June 2008, 22:35
Answers to above questions:
1. You left the sodding country just before I finally made it to 22!! Hopefully both myself and the bike will be up and running by the time you are back mate.

2. It's the one that got away. I sacrificed my arse for the sake of someones future woolly jumper.

3. Probably... flossy and I broke up over a lack of green pasture. She is bitter.

4. bmz and I are close mates but not THAT close!!!! Although he does like to wear them fingerless gloves... hmmmmm....

whoo. I've already got my hands on the other evil twin and it,s in my workshop, it will be customized , and for once Toaster your paying for it:gob::Oops:unveiling in the next few months, toaster will not even see the bike until finished:rockon: but it will be one bad ass 109

Toaster
11th June 2008, 08:53
whoo. I've already got my hands on the other evil twin and it,s in my workshop, it will be customized , and for once Toaster your paying for it:gob::Oops:unveiling in the next few months, toaster will not even see the bike until finished:rockon: but it will be one bad ass 109

You are a legend mate..... :rockon::scooter:

Those two M109Rs of ours are going to look awesome!

Toaster
11th June 2008, 09:01
Bike in the trailer being brought back from Waikato

jafar
11th June 2008, 17:14
Answers to above questions:
1. You left the sodding country just before I finally made it to 22!! Hopefully both myself and the bike will be up and running by the time you are back mate.

2. It's the one that got away. I sacrificed my arse for the sake of someones future woolly jumper.

3. Probably... flossy and I broke up over a lack of green pasture. She is bitter.

4. bmz and I are close mates but not THAT close!!!! Although he does like to wear them fingerless gloves... hmmmmm....

Answers to yours:
1. You had your chance, but now you will have to do it all again on the new & improved Toaster sled (if the missus will let you ) :whistle:

2. Well some farmer you are, $5.00 sheep or a $20,000 bike, not to mention your sorry ass as well. The BBQ will have to be beef again this week :2guns:

3. She is supposed to be cooked & the beer bitter :drinkup::apint::bleh:

4. With all the comments you have make about Honda riders in the past NOW this come out ???????????:girlfight:

Get well soon mate, :hug:

Toaster
12th June 2008, 13:29
...
Get well soon mate, :hug:

Cheers mate... had the young miss physio massaging my bum all morning.... mmmmmm!

Toaster
27th June 2008, 17:41
Just a bit of an update:

Had to visit hospital twice today.... further liver problems arising with a sizable laceration showing up on the CT Scan. Not good when on blood thinners for blood clots! So this is something the medical people are working on to see how best to balance the fine line between preventing another blood clot but allowing the liver to heal without too much risk of further bleeding.

Hmmmm.......

saltydog
27th June 2008, 18:24
Get well soon Toaster..........and welcome to the Broken ribs club. Just remember to Hug urself tight when you cough and fart.:done: ......and sneeze, laugh, cry.....come to think of it, even breathing is a shocker. I had 5 down one side and the old punctured lung thrown in. My insides were so mixed up the first time I did rip a audible fart I mudded

F***ING sheep ey! Get well Toast, sounds like your missus loves you and your mates care (I bet his beer fridge is full)
Speedy recovery mate.

Toaster
28th June 2008, 09:33
......and sneeze, laugh, cry.....come to think of it, even breathing is a shocker. I had 5 down one side and the old punctured lung thrown in. My insides were so mixed up the first time I did rip a audible fart I mudded

F***ING sheep ey! Get well Toast, sounds like your missus loves you and your mates care (I bet his beer fridge is full)
Speedy recovery mate.

Cheers mate.

I had a couple of good mates take time out from their families and busy jobs (one is a detective and the other an IT lawyer) to fly up from Wellington for a couple days just to help us around the house - they laid a drainage system that was half complete and cleaned out oak tree leaves from the guttering - tasks outside that I just couldn't do in my condition... so yes the beer fridge got happily raided but all I could do was watch as I can't drink any alcohol - not for a long time yet!:blink:

My good ladies parents have been awesome in helping us out on a daily basis too.:Punk:

McJim
28th June 2008, 13:06
Ahh the dreaded SH22 livestock. I narrowly missed a cow that was loose on SH22 a couple of years back. My friend following me was not so lucky and hit the cow, wrote off his bike and broke his collar bone.

Heal well Toaster.

All the best.

scumdog
29th June 2008, 21:35
Bad luck there ol' fella, I almost had the same 'experience' with a sheep last summer.

Get well and take it easy - and old people heal slower too:dodge:

Toaster
8th July 2008, 11:58
Ahh the dreaded SH22 livestock. I narrowly missed a cow that was loose on SH22 a couple of years back. My friend following me was not so lucky and hit the cow, wrote off his bike and broke his collar bone.

Heal well Toaster.

All the best.

Thanks McJim and by the way... happy birthday for today! :yes:

Number One
8th July 2008, 23:28
Far out I totally missed this! Sorry to hear about your livestock encounter....never liked sheep myself - they have creepy eyes!

Hope you heal up soon so that you can keep up with and chase that gorgeous boy of yours around.

Toaster
16th July 2008, 00:12
Far out I totally missed this! Sorry to hear about your livestock encounter....never liked sheep myself - they have creepy eyes!

Hope you heal up soon so that you can keep up with and chase that gorgeous boy of yours around.

Thanks!

Yeah things are not going so well..... although the blood clots and liver issues are being managed and the broken bones etc are healing fine, the major issue now arising is the impact of the head injury and my loss of memory and concentration/exhaustion.

I am facing some assessments on this and unfortunately work has to put someone in my role to manage the mounting workload and is now having to prepare for the likely possibility that I may not be able to perform my role to the extent I was able/expected to due to the complex and high pressured nature of the work, which may mean leaving my role and possibly my employment.

This is not good news at all.....:argh:

Edbear
16th July 2008, 10:32
Thanks!

Yeah things are not going so well..... although the blood clots and liver issues are being managed and the broken bones etc are healing fine, the major issue now arising is the impact of the head injury and my loss of memory and concentration/exhaustion.

I am facing some assessments on this and unfortunately work has to put someone in my role to manage the mounting workload and is now having to prepare for the likely possibility that I may not be able to perform my role to the extent I was able/expected to due to the complex and high pressured nature of the work, which may mean leaving my role and possibly my employment.

This is not good news at all.....:argh:

Ouch! Sympathies! Have you got any memory back yet? I know you have good support, which will be reassuring, but I feel your frustration!

Toaster
16th July 2008, 19:25
Ouch! Sympathies! Have you got any memory back yet? I know you have good support, which will be reassuring, but I feel your frustration!

Long term memory is back. Not much of the day of the crash at all. Lots of short term memory just vanishes which is so very frustrating.:crazy:

Toaster
31st July 2008, 14:57
Spoke to the witness who actually saw the crash...

He said it was a goat running along the fenceline then ran straight out into me. The bike went down and I somersaulted off the bike and hit a fence.

All things considered I think I am fortunate to have survived with the injuries I have.

Lots of Neurology assessments.... as they have realised the head injury was a lot worse than first thought.

Haven't worked since the crash and they doubt I will return to working for some months..... bugger.

Maha
31st July 2008, 15:01
Spoke to the witness who actually saw the crash...

He said it was a goat running along the fenceline then ran straight out into me. The bike went down and I somersaulted off the bike and hit a fence.

All things considered I think I am fortunate to have survived with the injuries I have.

Lots of Neurology assessments.... as they have realised the head injury was a lot worse than first thought.

Haven't worked since the crash and they doubt I will return to working for some months..... bugger.

Sure it wasn't a Geep?...they have recently been seen in that area!

vifferman
31st July 2008, 15:03
Sure it wasn't a Geep?...they have recently been seen in that area!
Hmmm... easy to confuse with those damned shoats.

Maha
31st July 2008, 15:04
Hmmm... easy to confuse with those damned shoats.


nodrog is the local expert on such things mutant.