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James Deuce
8th June 2008, 17:13
I don't get out much.

In fact I haven't been over the hill (Rimutakas) since well before it was resurfaced.

I have newish Metzler Sportec M1 tyres on the Zed that have only done commuter miles. The only person to put non-commuter miles on them is JRandom.

Good thing I managed to pack at least three months of scares and frights into one ride then.

Rear wheel steering, Harley's with a death wish, losing the front not once, but twice, Sun strike for 10s of kms on end, loose cattle, Ford Falcon's doing 6 billion kph on the straights and then slowing to a crawl in the corners, suicidal swallows, and most unsettling of all, touching footpegs down HARD in more corners than not on the way up the hill. I thought the Zed sat differently on the M1s. With Avon Vipers the pegs would touch down once in a blue moon. Today was so bad that I almost ran into the fence on the outside of the first decent right hander, heading North.

The really dumb thing about the ground clearance issue? The rider. Slow down moron.

I know lowering kits are popular with the slow midgets, but is there any such thing as a "raising" kit for fat bastards who'd like to go faster than Harley's?

Trudes
8th June 2008, 17:41
I know lowering kits are popular with the slow midgets,

Ahem!! Are you calling me a slow midget Jim??:crybaby:
Maybe you just need to lighten the load?:Pokey:

Usarka
8th June 2008, 17:48
So you didn't get stock truck effluent spray on the visor, or round a corner to find puddles of shit on the outside line one sometimes uses to see around the corner?

Job half done

ps - regarding the ground clearance, have you checked your tyre pressures :lol:

bull
8th June 2008, 18:20
Nice to see you at Rimutex Jim.
Kyle and I had a good ride to Welly and around the South coast, and took in the Ferrari Display (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1597859&postcount=16)too.

Chrislost
8th June 2008, 18:25
I don't get out much.

In fact I haven't been over the hill (Rimutakas) since well before it was resurfaced.

I have newish Metzler Sportec M1 tyres on the Zed that have only done commuter miles. The only person to put non-commuter miles on them is JRandom.

Good thing I managed to pack at least three months of scares and frights into one ride then.

Rear wheel steering, Harley's with a death wish, losing the front not once, but twice, Sun strike for 10s of kms on end, loose cattle, Ford Falcon's doing 6 billion kph on the straights and then slowing to a crawl in the corners, suicidal swallows, and most unsettling of all, touching footpegs down HARD in more corners than not on the way up the hill. I thought the Zed sat differently on the M1s. With Avon Vipers the pegs would touch down once in a blue moon. Today was so bad that I almost ran into the fence on the outside of the first decent right hander, heading North.

The really dumb thing about the ground clearance issue? The rider. Slow down moron.

I know lowering kits are popular with the slow midgets, but is there any such thing as a "raising" kit for fat bastards who'd like to go faster than Harley's?


your probably so cold you were not leaning off anymore.
did you check your tyre pressures? run a couple of psi less (than summer)(but more then flat after a month fo sitting around)to get more heat into them.
ride slower in the cold, even a moron such as you think i am knows that cold tyres don't grip like warm ones do.

hahaha pity you didnt arse off so i could have laughed at ya.

Gremlin
8th June 2008, 18:29
I know lowering kits are popular with the slow midgets, but is there any such thing as a "raising" kit for fat bastards who'd like to go faster than Harley's?
Jenny Craig? Weight Watchers?

ok ok, robert taylor?

Least you can get out... no country riding for me for probably the last 3 months, none for 1.5 months... if I could, I would

Katman
8th June 2008, 18:35
The really dumb thing about the ground clearance issue? The rider. Slow down moron.



Must..........re.........frain.......... :msn-wink:

Hitcher
8th June 2008, 18:37
God it must be nice to have a bike to go riding on. (sobs irreconcilably)

jrandom
8th June 2008, 18:38
... is there any such thing as a "raising" kit for fat bastards who'd like to go faster than Harley's?

Yes.

It's called the Pilot Power 2CT 190/55 profile rear tyre.

I happen to have a new one sitting around that I won't be using. Want it at enough of a discount to make buying a matching front worth your while?

Pussy
8th June 2008, 18:38
God it must be nice to have a bike to go riding on. (sobs irreconcilably)

Yes.... yes it is! :bleh:

MD
8th June 2008, 18:56
God it must be nice to have a bike to go riding on. (sobs irreconcilably)

Yes Hitch, it's great fun. I enjoyed the chill factor today. Along with a few other brave souls. Bit of the fluffy white stuff on the ground at the summit- beautiful!

Dash up to the wind farm to suck in the cool clean air.

I've no ideal what Jim2 is on about?

James Deuce
8th June 2008, 20:48
Dudes!

Tyre pressures are fine.

I don't hang off on the road. I might move a couple of inches in the seat.

It isn't the pies either. The only thing that has changed is brand and model of tyre.

I missed out the worst thing about the ride.

Pulling out to overtake a couple of very slow cars and finding myself dodging bits of broken bike and spotting a top box in the gutter.

madbikeboy
8th June 2008, 21:05
Yes.

It's called the Pilot Power 2CT 190/55 profile rear tyre.

I happen to have a new one sitting around that I won't be using. Want it at enough of a discount to make buying a matching front worth your while?

If he doesn't, I'd be keen. Damn Gixer seems to dissolve rear tires... :o)

Ocean1
8th June 2008, 21:11
The only thing that has changed is brand and model of tyre.

Is there that much difference in profile?

Or are they just really confidence-inspiring?

James Deuce
8th June 2008, 21:15
Or are they just really confidence-inspiring?

I think it's that bit of the equation.

They really suit the bike and it steers very quickly.

I said I hadn't changed anything else but I had actually fiddled with the shock settings a little a couple of months ago (all documented) after someone with the same bike rode mine and declared it like "riding in mud". I think it is a combination of improved rear end behaviour and tyres that mean you can smack the bike on its side with very little effort.

It very disconcerting to suddenly hit limits like that though.

Ocean1
8th June 2008, 21:28
It very disconcerting to suddenly hit limits like that though.

It is. Seems every other bastard regularly bungs their bikes over to within a close hair of it's limit. Never considered that applied to me... except a couple of months ago I arrived home without one of the wee feeler things on me footrest. Stern words...

What're the tyres? Ah, I see...

Clivoris
8th June 2008, 21:49
:cold:Would have loved to have been out there with you, dodging debri and scaring ourselves. I hear that KTM Superduke's have plenty of ground clearance.That's gotta be less hassle than fitting rear-sets to the Z.

Usarka
8th June 2008, 22:37
Are you sure there is water in the radiator?

speaking of which - zx14 bolts at 260km/hr make one hell of a whole in the radiator thanks MATE... ahem.....

metzlers eh?

xwhatsit
9th June 2008, 04:11
I know absolutely did-fuckly-all about riding motorcycles, but after going from some old vinyl communter rubbers to nice BT45, not only did I just about ride up the apex and onto the grass verge in every corner, but also ground clearance became an issue for the first time :D Usually in odd situations, too, like 90-degree lefthanders onto side streets. And it feels so awfully natural and off-hand, too. I can see this is a surprise that'll keep coming.

Pwalo
9th June 2008, 07:16
You need to loose some weight Jim, or perhaps have a look at some shorter dog bones (or perhaps a better shock).

It's harder work to get the pegs on the SV to scrape.

James Deuce
9th June 2008, 07:18
It's got an Ohlins. It's sprung for my weight, which is slightly less than when I bought the shock. Static sag is set at 30mm. The front's been resprung with Traxxion Dynamics springs as well.

James Deuce
9th June 2008, 07:29
Ahem!! Are you calling me a slow midget Jim??:crybaby:
Maybe you just need to lighten the load?:Pokey:

I have refrained from answering. No hang on, it's comming back to me......don't say anything about underwire bras Jim.

That was what I was trying not to say.

McDuck
9th June 2008, 08:11
Missing the 400 yet jim? I have only had a short we ride on it after the bin (no riding gear, to chcicken to go without) and it is still fooking butiful :love:

James Deuce
9th June 2008, 08:27
Bastard. No ground clearance issues on that puppy. If something touches down, you've fallen off.

McDuck
9th June 2008, 08:37
Bastard. No ground clearance issues on that puppy. If something touches down, you've fallen off.

I had the pegs on the 250 down a few times in the past, took the right corner tho.

Mikkel
9th June 2008, 12:33
I think it's that bit of the equation.

They really suit the bike and it steers very quickly.

...

It very disconcerting to suddenly hit limits like that though.

Sounds like you should be well pleased with your new tyres I reckon. :D

Nothing for it but going slower or hanging off more I believe... or getting a motard of course :yes: