Well I f#cked up...

[Reido]

Ok so i've had a bit of a bad day today..
first lot of stuff is irrelevant, but this afternoon on the way home from school i had a bit of an accident. Completely my fault, came up to a corner noticed the speed bump, decided that i was going to fast (60kmph) to go over it at the angle i was on. Braked quite hard and went off onto the grass on the side of the road intending to roll off the rest of the speed.... then noticed the big fucking ditch across the grass. braked again (too hard) and ended up on my side.

damage to bike, the left mirror now spins around, the handle bar is slightly bent.
If there is anyone around Gulf Harbour / Hibiscus Coast that could come and have a look at it for me i'd be forever greatfull.

damage to me, score ankle, graze on leg. Hurt ego lol

lesson learnt, looks like its the bus for me tomorrow.

Reido

[PirateJafa]

60km/h isn't too fast... :whistle:

[yod]

arse...

at least you aint too badly hurt

[Gubb]

I'm not too far away.

I take it that your Dad is in no way mechanical?
Is it rideable over here? I'm in Glenfield. Plenty of tools.

[stevewederell]

Better to learn the lesson at 60km on grass rather than 100km on hard ol' tarmac!

Glad you're ok, hope you and the bike are fixed up soon and back into it!

[Katman]

So was this on the route you always take to and from school and was the speed bump only installed last night?

[HungusMaximist]

first lot of stuff is irrelevant, but this afternoon on the way home from school i had a bit of an accident.


Highschool bro? I am sure you get plently attention from the girls.. unless it's a boys school..

School buses are definitely not cool!

[Reido]

I'm not too far away.

I take it that your Dad is in no way mechanical?
Is it rideable over here? I'm in Glenfield. Plenty of tools.

its ridable, just doesnt feel right, the bend is very minor, but noticeable, makes it feel weird
i got my dad to call i bike shop and they said if the handle bars are bent then usually there'll be more problems.
and i might have to take you up on that offer. :niceone:

and Katman i take different routes pretty much everyday, exploring. And this particular one i'd only been once before. and i already admitted it was my fault.

[Reckless]

So was this on the route you always take to and from school and was the speed bump only installed last night?

WTF!! Oh its so nice to see blame vented on a young rider before concern is even expressed!! Jeepers man get a life!

Glad your OK Reido. You can just bend the bars without more damage! If its your first fall its not to bad and you'll have learnt a lot from it. Hopefully some North shore KB member will be a little less callous than Katman and help you out.

[EJK]

Glad you are OK (well kinda... lol) Bin happens to most of us lol Welcome to the club :niceone:


So was this on the route you always take to and from school and was the speed bump only installed last night?

Don't listen to him. Hes just a big-acting-boss who likes to molest beginner bikers :msn-wink:

[LittleJohn]

its ridable, just doesnt feel right, the bend is very minor, but noticeable, makes it feel weird
i got my dad to call i bike shop and they said if the handle bars are bent then usually there'll be more problems.
and i might have to take you up on that offer. :niceone:

and Katman i take different routes pretty much everyday, exploring. And this particular one i'd only been once before. and i already admitted it was my fault.

Good to here you are okay, and don't worry to much we all have had our spills.

What bike shop did you talk to, call in to Spectrum, tehy are pretty good and honest guys who will look after young riders.

[ital916]

Chin up lad, we all fall down. As long as you learn to anticipate shit through the corner and learn from it..all good.

[Katman]

WTF!! Oh its so nice to see blame vented on a young rider before concern is even expressed!! Jeepers man get a life!



"Sore ankle, graze on leg and hurt ego" from an accident that was totally avoidable and you want me to show concern? Get a fucking grip man!

[325rocket]

Hurt ego lol
Reido


fuck that. biker 101 leave your ego at the 'door'. an ego on a bike can get you killed.

glad your ok

[Reido]

"Sore ankle, graze on leg and hurt ego" from an accident that was totally avoidable and you want me to show concern? Get a fucking grip man!

yes, avoidable, but shit happens. Skillz come with practice and experience. and that was one good experience for me. nothing major and good lesson learnt. Your posts arent constructive nor helpful, so gtfo.. i dont want a flame war in here.

oh and a big thanks to the rest of ya :niceone:

[Reckless]

"Sore ankle, graze on leg and hurt ego" from an accident that was totally avoidable and you want me to show concern? Get a fucking grip man!


Your posts arent constructive nor helpful, so gtfo.. i dont want a flame war in here

I'm certainly not a man to run from a fight but your wish is granted, No flame war from me Reido!
I think there are enough damning posts already for any to decide the issue!:Pokey: Good luck with the bike!

[Pedrostt500]

Well bad luck about the off, good onya for ownership of the off, and ya got to watch those speed bumps, rumour has it that they move them selves around to catch out unwary bikers.
Glad to hear its only a bit of lost bark and dammage to Ego, both easily fixed.

[Katman]

i dont want a flame war in here.



I'm sure you don't. You just want your hurt ego stroked.

[Reido]

i put that in as a bit of a joke, hence the "lol"
lighten up eh?

[Katman]

lighten up eh?

Yeah, whatever. Perhaps we should all wait till The Stranger gets here and then we can really "celebrate" your first bin.

[Reckless]

Yeah, whatever. Perhaps we should all wait till The Stranger gets here and then we can really "celebrate" your first bin.

Reido! He's the type that must have the last word, don't take it personally!
Its quite fun to witness actually, makes you feel good about having a sense of humor! LOL!!!

OH and have a good day Katman!!

[Meekey_Mouse]

Reido! He's the type that must have the last word, don't take it personally!
Its quite fun to witness actually, makes you feel good about having a sense of humor! LOL!!!

OH and have a good day Katman!!

Bling sent :)

Glad to hear you're learning from the off Reido, just remember that there is a big difference between the speeds you would of been doing on the grass and over 100kph on tarseal... I doubt you would of come off so lightly.

All the best for gettin the bike fixed :yes:

[98tls]

Glad your ok and the bikes okish fella,dont dismiss Katmans first post as he has a valid point,sometimes things are said in ways that dont suit you to hear at the time but that doesnt make them any less worthy of listening to.Heal up fix the bike up and back out there eh.:niceone:

[Renegade]

glad your ok, what sort of gear were you wearing to get the sore ankle and graze? not school shorts with ya socks pulled up i hope, mite be time to modify a pair of sliderz jeans to resemble school uniform (if you have a uniform) and some of those new armoured sneakers you can buy.

[CookMySock]

Thats a bummer, dood. Hope yer bike is sorted soon.

Ok, I don't know if you are interested in some feedback, but here goes ;


[...] decided that i was going to fast (60kmph) to go over it at the angle i was on. Braked quite hard and went off onto the grass on the side of the roadSee how you have made a decision here ? What has happened is, your fears about how far you can lean have forced your brain into survival mode, and will not let you lean the bike, because it seems that you will slip the tyres on the road.

NOW, perhaps this is true - you might have skidded? Perhaps you wouldn't have? It is very difficult to tell in hindsight, but one thing is clear - if you HAD leaned it over further, it is POSSIBLE that you MIGHT NOT had slid on the road - AND got out of it.

Point being, in an emergency steer with the bars - you MIGHT get out of it, you never know. No paniccing and chickening out - because you WILL have an off.

Hope that helps !

Best of luck getting it sorted. Sorry I am too far away to help, or I'd pitch in.

Steve

[Katman]

See how you have made a decision here ? What has happened is, your fears about how far you can lean have forced your brain into survival mode, and will not let you lean the bike, because it seems that you will slip the tyres on the road.

NOW, perhaps this is true - you might have skidded? Perhaps you wouldn't have? It is very difficult to tell in hindsight, but one thing is clear - if you HAD leaned it over further, it is POSSIBLE that you MIGHT NOT had slid on the road - AND got out of it.

Point being, in an emergency steer with the bars - you MIGHT get out of it, you never know. No paniccing and chickening out - because you WILL have an off.



Did you read the first post?

Do you actually recommend going over speed bumps cranked over at speed?????

[98tls]

Did you read the first post?

Do you actually recommend going over speed bumps cranked over at speed????? Does call himself Dangerousbastard.

[dipshit]

Does call himself Dangerousbastard.

hahah... :rofl:

[CookMySock]

Do you actually recommend going over speed bumps cranked over at speed?????NO. re-read. Its a game of probability.

Compromised, do we take the corner anyway ? Or do we chicken out, stand the bike up and hit the brakes ?

My point is, you have a very good chance of getting out of the first situation unscathed, and a very poor chance of getting out of the latter. Know how to conserve your angle of lean and conquer your fear in an emergency, and survive. Over-subscribe to your fears, and die.

DB

[Katman]

My point is,

Your point is, in this particular case, totally pointless. :weird:

[Reckless]

DB Actually you learn this very quickly when Moto crossing. A lot of MXer's will tell you they where completely stuffed in a certain situation, but they stuck with the bike instead of bailing and got through OK. This happens a few times per ride if your pushing it a bit. There would be no MX stories of survival to tell if this wasn't the case. It tends to be our fear or lack of experiance that is the difference.
The don't panic and look where you want to go the bike will handle the rest theory! Which is fundamental to MX and it works!

DB Katman is over simplifying your theory or just picking out what suits his argument.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Reido has probley gone to bed by now so why the fu*k dont all you experts do the same. And if you are interested it's not that bad bar and lever only not to mention the leaky fork seal that wouldn't of helped 2000ks old
definitely a honda.

[98tls]

DB

DB Katman is over simplifying your theory or just picking out what suits his argument. Or maybe as the thread poster is a newbie hes just making it simple."Argument" what argument?This is KB theres no arguments we are all just a happy extended family.<_<

[CookMySock]

Reido has probley gone to bed by now so why the fu*k dont all you experts do the same.ahh go get a dog up yaaa! LOL :cool:

DB

[The Stranger]

Dude, sorry to see you binned.
At least you and man enough to accept responsibility and learn from your error. Good on you.

Just ignore the fuckwits like twatman and his faithful lap dog dipshit, they seem to derive some sort of twisted pleasure from sticking the boot in when people are down.

[jrandom]

What has happened is, your fears about how far you can lean have forced your brain into survival mode, and will not let you lean the bike, because it seems that you will slip the tyres on the road.

NOW, perhaps this is true - you might have skidded? Perhaps you wouldn't have? It is very difficult to tell in hindsight, but one thing is clear...

Beware the grease mud!

It's apparent, though, that the real problem here was one of countersteering technique, or possibly incorrect inflation of the upper half of the tyres.

Fitment of braided brake lines is the obvious solution.

[Ixion]

..came up to a corner noticed the speed bump, decided that i was going to fast (60kmph) to go over it at the angle i was on. ..
Reido

A speed bump actually ON a corner? That is most unusual. Where is that ? I will take it up with the authorities. Speed bumps are never supposed to be installed mid corner.

[oldrider]

A speed bump actually ON a corner? That is most unusual. Where is that ? I will take it up with the authorities. Speed bumps are never supposed to be installed mid corner.

Well spotted Ixion, it just does not compute (or should not) I hope Reido's description was wrong, rather than the speed bump placement!

Disappointing for Reido, bending his baby but all part of learning in the school of hard knocks.

He who falls and walks away lives to fall another day, good luck Reido. :ride: Cheers John.

[xwhatsit]

One thing to remember when starting off, especially with a nice modern bike with new tyres, is that you'll almost never be going too fast for a corner; too fast for the rider, perhaps, but not too fast for the bike. If you feel like you're going too fast around a corner, don't worry! Just look further around the corner, lean over a bit more, wind on a little bit more throttle, and clench your arsehole.

You can keep doing this all the way until you start hearing metal scraping (exhausts or footpegs :D). Never, ever back off, or hit the brakes -- you want to be accelerating (I know it sounds crazy, but once you do that everything settles down and it'll be much more relaxed).

Sure the bike might get the shits; you might feel it bucking and twisting and squirming underneath you, especially if you hit some nasty bumps mid-coner. But don't worry, it's just complaining, it'll still carry you around the corner.

You just have to learn to trust the bike. It's the classic beginner mistake, running too hot into a corner, then running wide or grabbing the brakes. You solve this by a) reducing the chance of happening, by reading the road and slowing down before corners and b) learning what to do when you do come in too hot -- look where you want to go, keep the bike accelerating, and trusting the bike by letting it lean over a little more.

[Patch]

If the speedhump is in a 20kph zone, hardly matters where it is, does it?


Its a lot safer and easier (on the bike) to pop a wheelie, and ride over the hump or emergency brake (read brake like fuck) and just before you go over the hump release the brakes.

Everybody has a bin sooner or later, learn from it and ignore Katman and/or Dipshit - they're just part of the resident KB fuckwit club.

[CookMySock]

I'm just glad it wasn't at 130clicks running wide on some bit of twisty open road. It would be the exact same thing, but with hugely different consequences.

Rock on Reido, we're glad we're reading your own posting and not some story in the headlines mate. ;)

DB

[Zuki Bandit]

Glad your ok dude!

[Reido]

bikes sorted:cool:

thanks everyone :niceone: