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rocketman1
12th June 2008, 20:54
Does anyone have a cure for the effect that having your throttle turned half way on means your wrist ends up slightly lower than the handle bars, and sort of a bit cranked, and cramped, and as soon as you try and straighten your wrist, you end up releasing the throttle to get a straighter wrist arm action and end up slowing down and shagging around trying to get a better grip, a few kms down the road your hand has slipped around the throttle again, and bent your wrist again. I only get this way after about 4 hours riding. I will never stop me riding these distances or changing my bike because it has happened on all the bikes I have had.
Left wrist / hand stays straighter no problems there. May be I should just get tough?? I know a few other riders have the same problem...Any ideas out there??

Grumpy
12th June 2008, 21:02
Sometime ago I tried a throttle boss. A rubber device that you attatch to your throttle grip. When you are riding your palm puts pressure on it and aids in holding a constant thottle without hanging onto the grip too tight. Confused? Think cheap cruise control.

Wasn't too bad once you get used to it.

Mike748
12th June 2008, 21:02
Options
1, HTFU.
2, put it it top gear on idle and don't slow for anything.
3, ride it in 1st, 2nd or3rd everywhere using full wrist action.
No responsibility is accepted should you try these :lol:

yod
12th June 2008, 21:10
i've found that after being off the bike for over a month my clutch hand/arm is getting ye olde tendon pain again - i think it's just a matter of getting the bike fitness back

98tls
12th June 2008, 21:11
A 1/5th throttle insert would fix that.

Gubb
12th June 2008, 21:11
Try some new grips, maybe thats why your throttle is slipping back.

oldrider
12th June 2008, 21:47
You are probably suffering from early symptoms of Arthritis and inflammation of the joints!

Try (fine) spray of magnesium chloride and rub in then rub in "Natures Kiss" Anti-Flamme herbal relief creme at night, especially the night before a long ride!

Pharmacy products.

Warning: Don't let the Ant-Flamme get onto your bollocks etc or you wont need your bike to go fast! :headbang:

You are just experiencing the joys of the born again biker, everything hurts from now on. :yes:

It might not work for you but nothing ventured, nothing gained! :whistle: Good luck. Cheers John.

sinfull
12th June 2008, 21:57
Heated grips ! Word is they increase your manlihoodness ! Though there is reference to stiffness there somewhere, oh and not to mention stickiness !

Could be a bit of *too much spring* in there ! Be interested to hear more about the 1/5 th insert 98 was on about ! Though i dont seem to have a problem there, its either full on or full off lol nah i lie !! Ask anyone, i ride like my nanna !

FJRider
12th June 2008, 22:14
Does anyone have a cure for the effect that having your throttle turned half way on means your wrist ends up slightly lower than the handle bars, and sort of a bit cranked, and cramped, and as soon as you try and straighten your wrist, you end up releasing the throttle to get a straighter wrist arm action and end up slowing down and shagging around trying to get a better grip, a few kms down the road your hand has slipped around the throttle again, and bent your wrist again. I only get this way after about 4 hours riding. I will never stop me riding these distances or changing my bike because it has happened on all the bikes I have had.
Left wrist / hand stays straighter no problems there. May be I should just get tough?? I know a few other riders have the same problem...Any ideas out there??

JUST GET A GRIP.....problem solved.

98tls
12th June 2008, 22:14
Heated grips ! Word is they increase your manlihoodness ! Though there is reference to stiffness there somewhere, oh and not to mention stickiness !

Could be a bit of *too much spring* in there ! Be interested to hear more about the 1/5 th insert 98 was on about ! Though i dont seem to have a problem there, its either full on or full off lol nah i lie !! Ask anyone, i ride like my nanna ! Simple as this,reduces throttle travel,best bang for buck mod there is.Just be well careful when you cut the cable.

Spuds1234
12th June 2008, 23:42
Does anyone have a cure for the effect that having your throttle turned half way on means your wrist ends up slightly lower than the handle bars

Start with your wrist higher up, not in a neutral position.

You want your wrist to be in a neutral position for the most time possible, who cares if its canked up when you are pulling away from the side of the road.

Its when your cruising, thats when you want the neutral position.

CookMySock
13th June 2008, 08:09
I only get this way after about 4 hours riding.If "stuff" starts to "happen to me" after about 4 hours riding, I take a clear message from it. Take a break !

It sounds to me like you are getting stressed and are fixating on a minor thing that wouldn't normally bother you. Notice how it doesn't affect you normally. Time for a cuppa and snack somewhere, and let that head unwind.

DB

vifferman
13th June 2008, 09:14
If "stuff" starts to "happen to me" after about 4 hours riding, I take a clear message from it.
I'd be very pleased if I could ride for four hours before getting "a slightly sore wrist". I'm lucky if I can manage an hour.

Edbear
13th June 2008, 09:28
I'd be very pleased if I could ride for four hours before getting "a slightly sore wrist". I'm lucky if I can manage an hour.


Maybe you need a different type of bike...? :rolleyes:

McJim
13th June 2008, 09:39
I've never had this problem. I think it stems from too long in a straight line. If you're going through twisties for hours you're changing your wrist position regularly so don't get any issues. However I have to stop every 2 1/2 hours for fuel.

nodrog
13th June 2008, 09:48
Does anyone have a cure for the effect that having your throttle turned half way on means your wrist ends up slightly lower than the handle bars, and sort of a bit cranked, and cramped, and as soon as you try and straighten your wrist, you end up releasing the throttle to get a straighter wrist arm action and end up slowing down and shagging around trying to get a better grip, a few kms down the road your hand has slipped around the throttle again, and bent your wrist again. I only get this way after about 4 hours riding. I will never stop me riding these distances or changing my bike because it has happened on all the bikes I have had.
Left wrist / hand stays straighter no problems there. May be I should just get tough?? I know a few other riders have the same problem...Any ideas out there??

try loosening the screws that hold the throttle assembly on, and rotating it forward abit. this means that for the same amount of throttle you need your wrist wont be twisted down as much.

vifferman
13th June 2008, 10:43
Maybe you need a different type of bike...? :rolleyes:
No, just a new body. It's gradually crapping out due to arthritis. However, biking is actually better for it than traveling by car, especially the workout the hydraulic clutch gives my left hand.

CookMySock
13th June 2008, 14:01
I'd be very pleased if I could ride for four hours before getting "a slightly sore wrist". I'm lucky if I can manage an hour.haha yeah, pretty much I can do two hours, then I really should be stoppin, unless I'm hoofin' it, then more often.


I've never had this problem [snip, rearrange] However I have to stop every 2 1/2 hours for fuel.Yup.


I think it stems from too long in a straight line. If you're going through twisties for hours you're changing your wrist position regularly so don't get any issues.I have noticed this too. Me and Delphinus were hot-footin' it around teh cape, and my brain was overloading, so I asked for a break. The brain was rooted, but no sore wrists at all !! First time ever!

DB

xwhatsit
13th June 2008, 15:36
try loosening the screws that hold the throttle assembly on, and rotating it forward abit. this means that for the same amount of throttle you need your wrist wont be twisted down as much.
Lol wut?

How does that work? Could you perhaps explain that to me again :laugh:


With my pissy little 250, I need full throttle rather a lot. Also need to close it completely to shift gear, brake occasionally etc. So I've developed a strange sort of `double move' to move my hand further around the throttle.

I'd quite like one of those short throw throttles. Tommaselli make a lovely aluminium-bodied one.

nodrog
13th June 2008, 15:47
Lol wut?

How does that work? Could you perhaps explain that to me again :laugh:


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you are rotating the whole throttle assembly foward on the handlebar, which raises the point of where the throttle stops, so you dont have to twist your wrist right around the bar to get it to open all the way to the stop.

HornetBoy
13th June 2008, 16:07
you are rotating the whole throttle assembly foward on the handlebar, which raises the point of where the throttle stops, so you dont have to twist your wrist right around the bar to get it to open all the way to the stop.

Yea ,ive done this with my katana actually as i was getting soar of having a almost completly flexed back wrist on the highway so i flicked the Grip setup foward so that at highway speeds my wrist was in a more relaxed poition ,and also in my case it meant i didnt need to flex back as much to accelerate.

Am considering a 1/4 throttle thing but ive been told it would take a bit of getting used to and could be a bad choice for road riding.

xwhatsit
13th June 2008, 23:20
you are rotating the whole throttle assembly foward on the handlebar, which raises the point of where the throttle stops, so you dont have to twist your wrist right around the bar to get it to open all the way to the stop.
Yeah but it's a cylindrical barrel -- there's no markings on the throttle grip, right? :msn-wink:

OK -- maybe my bike is insanely weird, but say I rotate the throttle assembly forward on my bike. Now, next time I go to ride it, I reach down and grab the throttle. Put my hand in the usual position -- except now the throttle assembly is rotated. So my hand will be further back on the throttle compared to before. There's still the same number of degrees it's turning before it hits the stop.

It's not like if you put the throttle assembly forward you're going to put your hand forward as well. Unless, of course, your throttle grip isn't round.

Here's a picture to illustrate what I'm so poor at explaining. Notice in 2a and 2b the throttle assembly has been rotated forward -- but of course, the poor man with the retarded hand has put his hand (as of course he would) in the normal, comfortable position his hand falls to naturally -- the same position as in 1a and 1b.
<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=3111"></img>

nodrog
14th June 2008, 11:09
Yeah but it's a cylindrical barrel -- there's no markings on the throttle grip, right? :msn-wink:

OK -- maybe my bike is insanely weird, but say I rotate the throttle assembly forward on my bike. Now, next time I go to ride it, I reach down and grab the throttle. Put my hand in the usual position -- except now the throttle assembly is rotated. So my hand will be further back on the throttle compared to before. There's still the same number of degrees it's turning before it hits the stop.

It's not like if you put the throttle assembly forward you're going to put your hand forward as well. Unless, of course, your throttle grip isn't round.

Here's a picture to illustrate what I'm so poor at explaining. Notice in 2a and 2b the throttle assembly has been rotated forward -- but of course, the poor man with the retarded hand has put his hand (as of course he would) in the normal, comfortable position his hand falls to naturally -- the same position as in 1a and 1b.
<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=3111"></img>

cool words and pictures and shit, it works, maybe you should try it instead of confusing yourself with scientific bullshit:shit:

Jantar
14th June 2008, 11:40
I believe this method works on bikes where you are likely to spend a lot of time at high throttle settings. On most large capacity bikes the normal cruise is only around 1/4 throttle, so changing the postion of the stop wont help. What may help, is rotating your brake lever down a bit, so the natural rest position is just a touch further forward to begin with.

xwhatsit
14th June 2008, 12:24
cool words and pictures and shit, it works, maybe you should try it instead of confusing yourself with scientific bullshit:shit:
OK -- I'll phrase it simply. By rotating your throttle assembly, do you end up putting your hand in a different position when you reach down to the bars?

I, personally, do not. My throttle is round. No matter how it is rotated, my hand is still is the same starting place. Rotating the throttle assembly does not change the amount of travel it takes to get to full throttle, so it doesn't change anything for me.

If, for some reason, rotating your throttle assembly makes you put your hand in a different starting position (can't figure out why that would be), then it would work. As Jantar says, moving your brake lever would help change your throttle hand's resting position, so I can see that working.

tri boy
14th June 2008, 12:26
Frequent wanking is the cure to all aches.:2thumbsup

nodrog
14th June 2008, 12:32
...... stuff.....

go and rotate your throttle assembly forward 180 degrees, then come back and say it didnt change where you hand position started.

im not talking about shortening the throw, im talking about where your hand would be position relative to the same amout of aplied throttle.

xwhatsit
14th June 2008, 12:41
go and rotate your throttle assembly forward 180 degrees, then come back and say it didnt change where you hand position started.
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I have done that (fitted a few different bars to my bike, routing different cables etc), and no, it doesn't. Throttle grip is completely round (doesn't know which way is up), and I never use anything on the right-hand switchblock (kickstart, leave lights on), so that doesn't affect it either.

That might be why -- electric starter, you shift your hand so you can hit it before you start riding, thus changing the position of your hand. I'm surprised it lasts for the duration of the ride, though?

Warr
14th June 2008, 13:38
Get one of these. Throttle Boss (http://www.ironbraid.com/boss.html)
I slide mine partly over the bar end so that the throttle stays where you left it.
Yes not entirely safe, but its safer than texting :)

alanzs
14th June 2008, 13:39
Sometime ago I tried a throttle boss. A rubber device that you attatch to your throttle grip. When you are riding your palm puts pressure on it and aids in holding a constant thottle without hanging onto the grip too tight. Confused? Think cheap cruise control.

Wasn't too bad once you get used to it.

I have used one for years. They help immensely and when I don't want to use it, I just twist it out of the way. Excellent product.

alanzs
14th June 2008, 13:42
Do you get hair on your palms as well? Hows the eyesight? One forearm slightly bigger than the other? I really don't want to know.... :niceone:

dipshit
14th June 2008, 14:15
Am considering a 1/4 throttle thing but ive been told it would take a bit of getting used to and could be a bad choice for road riding.

You probably mean getting a 1/5 throttle. 1/4 is standard on most bikes.

I built up the opening ramp on my SV's throttle with some quick setting araldite to give me a 1/5 action. I was like giving the bike another 30hp :2thumbsup You very quickly get used to the smaller amount of input needed... no more wing flapping!

imdying
14th June 2008, 15:29
Yeah but it's a cylindrical barrel -- there's no markings on the throttle grip, right? :msn-wink:What you say is completely correct, it concerns me that anyone would think any differently... the throttle is a tube, that turns x degrees... no matter where it sits on the bar, it still turns the same amount... If your eyes were closed, you wouldn't be able to tell where it was (because it doesn't matter).


Am considering a 1/4 throttle thing but ive been told it would take a bit of getting used to and could be a bad choice for road riding.1/5th I think... 1/4 is generally standard on bikes. My RGV has a 1/6th, it's awesome... 1/5th should be great for any roadbike, but definitely go as far as a 1/6th for a small cc bike (like the RGV). Cost me $0, best mod I've done on anything!