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6Chris6
6th January 2005, 13:52
KB ride etiquette.
Those of us that have been on a kb ride or two know how much fun they can be.
I myself go on as many as I can and absolutely love them, and have also met some people that I would like to think are life long friends on these rides.
BUT occasionally one of us has an incident (I myself have had a few) where some damage to ourselves/beloved bike occurs for whatever reason.
If you have binned you know how it feels, firstly because you have damaged your pride and joy and as we know it's not often cheap to fix, but also because you feel like you've fu**ed everybody’s day up.
But then there's that dreaded feeling of coming onto this forum when somebody's spilled or left a little cryptic message (usually worse).
This can really f*ck you off and is not needed at all!
In my opinion if you've had an "off" it's up to you to post (unless not possible, hospitalised etc.) after all who knows more about it.
And if they don't want to post then that should be respected.
There is often a good reason for it even if it's just until they get there head around it.
Cheers
Chris
PS This is not a rant, just something I feel needed to be said.
MSTRS
6th January 2005, 13:56
Oh - I started reading this cos I thought it referred to the faster riders saving a pint for the slower ones
vifferman
6th January 2005, 14:01
Oh - I started reading this cos I thought it referred to the faster riders saving a pint for the slower onesYeah, and I thought it would say some stuff about how to behave when on a ride. Then I could post some smart-arse stuff poking fun at it, and drawing attention to the things that usually happen.
Rule number 1: Try to keep up, otherwise you'll get teased mercilessly.
Rule number 2: Wheelies are invariably compulsory.
Rule number 3: If you can't keep up, or get it up (see previous rules) try to crash in a spectacular fashion, so you can at least achieve some infamy that way.
etc. etc.
FROSTY
6th January 2005, 14:04
Chris clearly theres a hidden meaning behind your words.
if I bin heck I aint proud of it but to err is human after all.
FROSTY
6th January 2005, 14:05
Yeah, and I thought it would say some stuff about how to behve when on a ride. Then I could post some smart-arse stuff poking fun at it, and drawing attention to the things that usualy happen.
Rule number 1: Try to keep up, otherwise you'll get teased mercilessly.
Rule number 2: Wheelies are invariably compulsory.
Rule number 3: If you can't keep up, or get it up (see previous rules) try to crash in a spectacular fashion, so you can at least achieve some infamy that way.
etc. etc.
wohoooo --well at least I acheived one out of 3
MSTRS
6th January 2005, 14:05
And what about weaving heavily coming into corners whilst in the middle of the pack and yelling 'WAAAHOOOO' all at the same time ?? :innocent:
vifferman
6th January 2005, 14:07
And what about weaving heavily coming into corners whilst in the middle of the pack and yelling 'WAAAHOOOO' all at the same time ?? :innocent:What about it?
Oh whoops! :o
This is 6Chris6's thread. I just broke list etiquette. He should answer your query.
But (BUT!) if I were to answer that, I'd say that during the lunchtime bullshit session, you could just claim you were exuberantly warming up your tyres and your lungs during the warmup lap, just like you used to do when you were a professional road racer.
6Chris6
6th January 2005, 14:09
And what about weaving heavily coming into corners whilst in the middle of the pack and yelling 'WAAAHOOOO' all at the same time ?? :innocent:
Thats just par for the course :laugh:
Motoracer
6th January 2005, 14:09
Jokes aside, Chris has got a good point. I am one of thoes who belives in the same thing as Chris does. It is not cool to blab about someone's misfortune without their permission.
MSTRS
6th January 2005, 14:14
Thats just par for the course :laugh:
We're not moving onto golf now are we?? btw I agree that with you that the guilty party needs to be completely forthcoming in order to involve/enlighten the other members & disappoint/frustrate them by stopping rumours & gossip in their tracks :lol:
vifferman
6th January 2005, 14:17
We're not moving onto golf now are we?? btw I agree that with you that the guilty party needs to be completely forthcoming in order to involve/enlighten the other members & disappoint/frustrate them by stopping rumours & gossip in their tracks :lol:Otherwise it's just not cricket (keeping with the sports theme). :cool2:
(That's prolly a shaven-headed cricketer wearing Oakleys, as they all seem to do now.)
Seriously (or at least trying to put up a vague pretence of seriousness), Chris and that other one have a good point.
MSTRS
6th January 2005, 14:22
Agree....TwoSmoker must have come up against it somewhere....he no happy this AM
FROSTY
6th January 2005, 14:25
Ok so now I understand.
TS crashed--as he has today anounced. He told selected people about it
Someone blabbed
Ok now we're clear on that one.
Whew.
:devil2:
FROSTY
6th January 2005, 14:30
seriously --um chris (TS) I guess the lesson here is keep quiet about it.
I TOTALLY empathise with ya not wanting people to know but if ya want it kept secret best ya tell noone.
Case in point was my bin --a KB er saw the aftermath of my bin and probably would have posted about it even if I diddn't.
Ohh and for other kbers --wasn't me that blabbed :ar15:
750Y
6th January 2005, 15:45
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSTRS
And what about weaving heavily coming into corners whilst in the middle of the pack and yelling 'WAAAHOOOO' all at the same time ??
Thats just par for the course :laugh:
I know, I saw You abruptly adjust your line mid corner when confronted with the sight of my oncoming hilux in the gorge last weekend. the guy on the YZF did it too. good to see the survival instincts are working well. lol
White trash
6th January 2005, 15:55
Rule number 1: Try to keep up, otherwise you'll get teased mercilessly.
Absolutely, and if you're the fastest? Gloat copiously.
Rule number 2: Wheelies are invariably compulsory.
Unless you're gay, then we'll let you away with it.
Rule number 3: If you can't keep up, or get it up (see previous rules) try to crash in a spectacular fashion, so you can at least achieve some infamy that way.
etc. etc.
And sometimes if you can......
:thud:
MSTRS
6th January 2005, 15:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSTRS
And what about weaving heavily coming into corners whilst in the middle of the pack and yelling 'WAAAHOOOO' all at the same time ??
I know, I saw You abruptly adjust your line mid corner when confronted with the sight of my oncoming hilux in the gorge last weekend. the guy on the YZF did it too. good to see the survival instincts are working well. lol
Couldn't have been me, I ONLY do that when in the middle of a BIG group. Besides, what were you doing on our side oh tosser who can't drive
DEATH_INC.
6th January 2005, 17:39
Rule number 1: Try to keep up, otherwise you'll get teased mercilessly.
Rule number 2: Wheelies are invariably compulsory.
Rule number 3: If you can't keep up, or get it up (see previous rules) try to crash in a spectacular fashion, so you can at least achieve some infamy that way.
etc. etc.
Woohoo! I can do all of these,though I haven't done no3 on a KB ride......yet
750Y
7th January 2005, 07:45
....Besides, what were you doing on our side oh tosser who can't drive
lol,
firstly, i can drive
secondly, i was on my side
thirdly, keep your tosser comments to yourself Mistress.
MSTRS
7th January 2005, 08:09
lol,
firstly, i can drive
secondly, i was on my side
thirdly, keep your tosser comments to yourself Mistress.
:cool2: Just :Pokey: alleged incident included no involvement on my part. Anyway, where's Hunua
750Y
7th January 2005, 08:34
:cool2: ... Anyway, where's Hunua
far from the sun of hawkes bay so shaddup we know it was 28deg there yesterday grumble grumble. 8-(
Quasievil
7th January 2005, 08:47
I was recently given permission to post about such an event from a certain angle and even with this I could quite justify putting anything up, whats the point ?
I will say however those of us that know each other I believe share a certain kind of brotherhood (sisterhood) and do want to know if someone has a situation, the point of this is so you can help a friend in need if you can, and this is certainly one of the best things about KB, people keen to help and support fellow bikers right, however other factors come in to it and thats were caution should prevail, ie this is a public forum and you dont know who is on here, is a insurance assesor or two here ? how much detail can they find out on here which could seriously comprimise a claim.
What if criminal charges were brought against a member would this forum be evidence ?
At the end of the day its best not to say to much and as 6Chris6 rightly said leave it up to the person involved to speak out, and when he does be careful what you say.
toads
7th January 2005, 09:08
I was recently given permission to post about such an event from a certain angle and even with this I could quite justify putting anything up, whats the point ?
I will say however those of us that know each other I believe share a certain kind of brotherhood (sisterhood) and do want to know if someone has a situation, the point of this is so you can help a friend in need if you can, and this is certainly one of the best things about KB, people keen to help and support fellow bikers right, however other factors come in to it and thats were caution should prevail, ie this is a public forum and you dont know who is on here, is a insurance assesor or two here ? how much detail can they find out on here which could seriously comprimise a claim.
What if criminal charges were brought against a member would this forum be evidence ?
At the end of the day its best not to say to much and as 6Chris6 rightly said leave it up to the person involved to speak out, and when he does be careful what you say.
that is very true, it is afterall the crashee that will feel the effects of a rejected claim as well as the damage to themselves, both physically and their pride. From me and most others though, sympathy is all I feel, it's inevitable that we will all come off at some stage, and not one of us plans it that way.
loosebruce
8th January 2005, 14:55
Rule number 1: Try to keep up, otherwise you'll get teased mercilessly.
Rule number 2: Wheelies are invariably compulsory.
Rule number 3: If you can't keep up, or get it up (see previous rules) try to crash in a spectacular fashion, so you can at least achieve some infamy that way.
etc. etc.
I can keep up most of time, and preform rule 2 reasonbly well but not like death/Whitetrash/sam to name a few. And i think its fairly safe to say i managed an A+++++ on rule 3. :stoogie:
:headbang:
MSTRS
8th January 2005, 15:07
far from the sun of hawkes bay so shaddup we know it was 28deg there yesterday grumble grumble. 8-(
Yea - Friday 32 :sunny::sweatdrop , today it's 31 :sunny::sweatdrop , BUT it's blowing like 40thousand barstuds out there. Not good for riding. :argh: Couldn't find the Weatherbitch thread so had to hijack this one. Sorry guys
magnum
8th January 2005, 15:09
sounds fair enough chris. :spudwave:
2_SL0
8th January 2005, 21:06
I fail on all 3. :2thumbsup
avgas
8th January 2005, 21:22
hmmmm.... i must knocked my head cos i cant seem to do anything as well as i used to. Could prob keep up - but its completely up to the bike when it wants to lift the front (hense me being low in the revs in corners).
Oh i have to agree here, If ya bin it - no mockery till the binner can laugh bout it. Otherwise we may as well all go buy cages and become :buggerd: racers.
I know what it feels like (like most here) when you fuck up someones weekend ride.
Damn right TS should get pissed off too, i would be.
I mean my bikes feel like my babies, if i hurt them - imagine the fuckn guilt. Then have some wanker calling you some lower form of rider.
Real motorcyclist no where to draw the line
JohnBoy
11th January 2005, 06:22
i think i can nearly manage the rules... but do i get any sympothy for having a dinosar spec "superbike" that cant do wheelies!!! yeah... i have tried. no go, bloddy slipper clutch and flatside carbs! :angry2:
however i am keen to know if any one has an idea how to stand it up???
bevsta
11th January 2005, 22:07
I fail on all 3. :2thumbsup
Me too,
Damn it!
Note to self: Get good bike and start passing KB standards of a good ride!
gav
11th January 2005, 22:58
So what if you crash and take someone else out? Whos at fault? So what if youre playing silly buggers and someone else crashes but technically youre not at fault? I had an incident many years ago now, where a group of us were returning from a ride and riding in a bunch at lowish speed, where one of the guys in front of me, suddenly hit his front brakes real hard (RGV250) He thought the guy who had pulled alongside him was going to reach over and hit his kill switch or something :brick: I braked as hard as I could but ended up rear ending him and knocking him off and wrecking front end of my bike (buckled front wheel, fairing damage etc) First thing he said was "sorry gav" fair enough I thought, your insured, hopefully your insurance will cover it. Well after a week or so, and probably after some pressure from his parents, he says I'm at fault as I hit him from behind. OK, maybe technically, but surely "dangerous driving" or " reckless use of a motorvehicle" by him would be a good place to start. Ended up in small claims, but both got thrown out and told to each pay for our own bikes and stop being stupid buggers on the road :Oops:
Just wondering how you'd react/think in similiar situation?
Wonko
12th January 2005, 00:30
Gav, IMHO you got off lightly.
Sounds like you were failing to leave enough of a gap from the rider in front. (you said you rear ended him). Would have been your arse in a sling and paying for both bikes.
"dangerous driving" or " reckless use of a motorvehicle" would have been against you too, not him
If someone crashed and then slid into you then they would be at fault and you would be a third party payout. Ditto if the toppled over onto your bike while parked up etc.
Ex Cop
12th January 2005, 04:42
One of the easiest charges to prove, following too close. If nothing else it comes under Careless Driving, (not the actions of a prudent motorist). As the rules say, you must drive at a speed where you are able to stop short.
Just me being a know it all prick, hehehe :stupid:
Mate of mine Years ago at MOT college ran up the back of an Instructor on the Rimatkuka's, wrote both bikes off. Instructors one was supposed to be for MOT museum. We all thought it was FUNNY. :Oops: Lucky they never charged him tho.
gav
12th January 2005, 05:47
Yeah, I guess :unsure: even though he was playing silly buggers, though morally he knew he caused the accident, legally I guess I was at fault?
Something to keep in mind out there, aye.....
Draco
13th January 2005, 07:14
riding in a bunch at lowish speed, where one of the guys in front of me, suddenly hit his front brakes real hard (RGV250) He thought the guy who had pulled alongside him was going to reach over and hit his kill switch or something :brick: I braked as hard as I could but ended up rear ending him and knocking him off and wrecking front end of my bike
If i thought some dick was gunna hit my kill switch i'd probably hit the brakes too. Don't see how the accident was his fault myself (but then i wasn't there to witness it).
A classic example of why riding in staggered formation is a good idea in a big bunch. I've seen the same thing avoided on a kb ride when a bunch of 15 or so riders overshot a turn and the first guy decided to haul up just over a blind rise with the others right on his butt :shit: Who needs the cardio room at the gym, just ride with kb'rs!!!
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