Has anyone's radar detector ever failed them? [Archive] - Page 2

cs363

22nd July 2008, 20:18

Actually Patrick one of the things that really pisses me off is that for all the "revenue" supposedly being gathered from motorists, not enough is being spent on upgrading or sufficiently clear road markings or signage for speed areas.

Both my wife and I have been very confused as to what speed zones we are in for quite long periods of distance when away from our familiar area.

Drift with the traffic and get pinged or slow down and get tail gated and abused try and estimate from the surroundings and get it wrong $$$$$$$.

The only reason I would like a radar detector is to warn me whats around during these moments of uncertainty.

Police "seem" to be unable or not allowed to act with discretion any more, I (and my family members) have been pinged for slight indiscretion in the most ridiculous situations and it only results in us getting highly pissed off with the police and losing respect for them.

Gone are the days of the fair cop by a fair cop, instead of our respected friends they are just another bunch of standover hoodlums in (official) uniform.

I am uncomfortable feeling like this but like it or not that 's the way this government seems to want it. :angry: John. (Generalised rant not directed at any person)

I would have to agree with this post, and doubly so with the comments about being uncomfortable feeling like this as well as acknowledging that we are making generalisations (apologies to the handful of sensible cops that do see the bigger picture) I hear these kind of comments from more and more from normal, otherwise law abiding types of people.
What make it worse is when you travel to countries like the US who have much higher traffic volumes and yet they don't have anything like the heavy handed approach to minor speed infractions, in fact travelling at 10-15% above the speed limit seems to be the norm for all traffic including the police. They only seem to worry about people travelling at excessive speeds in relation to general traffic flow or those driving in a dangerous manner.
I for one would become quite law abiding if the open road limit was 120km/h in suitable areas - trouble with speed limits like most laws in this PC country is that everything is aimed at the lowest common denominator and the rest of us just have to put up with being dumbed down.

davereid

22nd July 2008, 20:27

If you ride alone, on main highways at high speed, your radar detector may be useful, but eventually you will get caught.

The rules are...

Ride on back roads, choose roads where your speed is never constant, ride in a group, have a pre-arranged plan - ie only tail end charlie stops, if he is bypassed by the cop, then he goes home free, and the next fella stops. Just don't stop in a group, and don't be too keen to let the cop pass ya. Never admit speeding ever, no one ever admits knowing other riders, and always take it to court.

Court costs the cops much more than it costs you. Deny everything, ask for everything, generally make sure the ticket is a loser for the cops even if they win.

Don't think they will always win either, even if you are completely convinced they will win. Cops botch it. They leave the force, don't show up in court, or just F. up.

And don't think the courts are on the cops side. Often quite the reverse. The relationship in the court can be quite anti-police, particularly if the ticket is dodgy, or trivial.

And tickets are about money. Defending them is bad business for the cops.

A cop can write a ticket every 10 minutes if he can find the customers. But if they are all defended, a weeks highway patrol will cost him the rest of the year in court.

Biggles2000

22nd July 2008, 20:30

Well I use one, a Bell 950, its a great wee unit. I really don't make a habit of speeding, the HD is a more comfortable ride below 110. Its just there so I know where the cops are so i are not stressing out about paying too much tax. I'm always a bit concerned about missing a 50 sign and getting pinged for it and getting picked up going a bit fast while passing. It's just there for my peace of mind.
The unit velcro's onto the bike behind the screen and I can hear the std unit without any mods at the speeds I travel.
I have had 2 speeding tickets over the last 30 years, both minor, both on a Triumph Trophy 1200 I had a few years ago.
I got the unit because it seemed like a good idea at the time. I dont think it has saved me from any or many tickets. It's just nice to know and kind of fun to work out where the cops are working.

Patrick

22nd July 2008, 20:32

Actually Patrick one of the things that really pisses me off is that for all the "revenue" supposedly being gathered from motorists, not enough is being spent on upgrading or sufficiently clear road markings or signage for speed areas.

Police "seem" to be unable or not allowed to act with discretion any more, I (and my family members) have been pinged for slight indiscretion in the most ridiculous situations and it only results in us getting highly pissed off with the police and losing respect for them.

The revenue goes to those who need it most in this country - the sickness / invalid / domestic purposes beneficiaries.... (not the few who actually DO deserve it - I am referring to the gangs, druggies, slappers who actively get knocked up just to derive an "income"...).

Discretion is alive and well. Some know how to use it, is all....... Some don't, or have forgotten.

"Slight indiscretion" is what they all are - usually. Depending on what it is, of course, does have a bearing. Some call doing 65 past a school with kids everywhere, a "slight indescretion." I'm not so sure...

cs363

22nd July 2008, 20:44

The revenue goes to those who need it most in this country - the sickness / invalid / domestic purposes beneficiaries.... (not the few who actually DO deserve it - I am referring to the gangs, druggies, slappers who actively get knocked up just to derive an "income"...).

Discretion is alive and well. Some know how to use it, is all....... Some don't, or have forgotten.

"Slight indiscretion" is what they all are - usually. Depending on what it is, of course, does have a bearing. Some call doing 65 past a school with kids everywhere, a "slight indescretion." I'm not so sure...

Lol, don't start me on where all our hard earned dollars go....that's a whole other thread!!
I certainly wouldn't call 65 in a school zone a slight indescretion, especially in light of all the recent publicity on that very problem. In fact I'm dead against speeding in built up areas and can proudly say I've never had a ticket outside of an open road speed limit area.
It's not clever to be racing around the streets where kids, animals or god knows what can come at you from any angle at any time.
But I can't see a problem of a safe vehicle (as in roadworthy) observing correct following distances, lane indications and the like travelling on a motorway at 120km/h.
By the same token I would freely admit that there are roads and circumstances where 100 can be too fast. I'm a big fan of sensible, courteous driving/riding - something of a rarity in NZ.

Gremlin

23rd July 2008, 02:18

And don't think the courts are on the cops side. Often quite the reverse. The relationship in the court can be quite anti-police, particularly if the ticket is dodgy, or trivial.
Be careful on this point, it depends on the location of said court, along with circumstances.

Small local court of small-ish town... perhaps only a JP or two in attendance... a lot will rubber stamp whatever the cop says (mate had this done to him). Judges are very different, and the one I have been in front of (:innocent:) I have to say, I was very impressed, handling things in a very fair manner, and in touch with the normal working world.

As with any industry, the bad minority spoil it for the majority, and I know a few cops, who are all good buggers. Always seem to meet the bad buggers on the road tho? :blink:

Swoop

23rd July 2008, 08:30

perhaps only a JP or two in attendance... a lot will rubber stamp whatever the cop says (mate had this done to him). Judges are very different...
It is an extremely rare day when a JP will make a decision to throw out a case. They are basically a "walking rubber-stamp" who are only there to be part of the process and push the case up to the next step of the food chain.

Mikkel

23rd July 2008, 09:48

I dunno what's changed but back in the mid-late 90's I had a Whistler (model eludes me now) that'd give me several KMs advance warning of speed cameras and patrol cars on the roads between Ashvegas and Hornby...

Worst piece of road ever! Boring, straight, plenty of traffic, goes nowhere interesting (Ashburton) - and it's straight and boring too. I hate it.

Glad to hear that.

Every time you go over 200, a baby angel dies.

...

Personally, I'm working on wiping the motherfuckers out in the hope that it'll shut Edbear up.

When you're done with the baby angels - could you then get rid of the whales as a personal favour to me? I just like to watch hippies cry :yes:

Ain't no such thing as a baby angel, cos angels don't have dicks. Ergo , no baby angels.

How does the population then increase? Cell division? Cloning? Would be cool if God cloned angels...

kiwifruit's a full-on born-again law-abiding cunt. We don't really talk much these days. Very little in common, etc.

I'm sorry to heat that. Have you tried therapy?

Speed is illegal and bloody expensive too!

... and addictive! Not as bad as crack though...

I invoke Godwin's Law. Game over: you have failed at Teh Internets.

Truth be told, most people do. The boss at the end is almost impossible to beat. You need 1337 h4x0r skills to do it.

Ixion

23rd July 2008, 10:24

How does the population then increase? Cell division? Cloning? Would be cool if God cloned angels...

..

Angels are immortal . Therefore there is neither increase , nor decrease. And He cloned humans , so I guess He could (maybe did) clone angels.

kiwifruit

23rd July 2008, 10:27

so what? take an inocent person out to gather revenue, i dont think so, wait till its safe, id rather the police let the speeder go.
didnt you see the cop who did a u turn on a blind corner in front of the two bikes? there lucky there not dead. fuck that!! brain dead pig.
one track mind, money money money.
so lets get this right, you wouldnt mind if the cop killed your family to get someone 10-20kmph over the speed limit?

+1

Fuckin coppers :angry2: They should be after the REAL crims.... not people traveling at 10-20% above the "speed limit"!!!!

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 10:29

+1

Fuckin coppers :angry2: They should be after the REAL crims.... not people traveling at 10-20% above the "speed limit"!!!!

But..but.. it's people travelling at 10 to 20% above the 'speed limit' that are keeping cops from dealing with the 'REAL crims'.:shit:

jrandom

23rd July 2008, 11:03

But..but.. it's people travelling at 10 to 20% above the 'speed limit' that are keeping cops from dealing with the 'REAL crims'.

No it's not, don't be silly.

If those cops weren't out there keeping the roads safe for law-abiding motorists they'd be out of a job, because the funding that pays their salaries is only there to enable traffic policing.

They don't get to wake up in the morning and decide that today they will ticket speeding drivers rather than fight organised crime. They are not being paid to fight organised crime.

So, the next time you're tempted to have a rant at a Highway Patrol officer about how he could be back in town picking up burglars and shutting down tinny houses, don't. Just STFU and take the ticket with a polite smile, because a smile makes everyone's day a little bit better.

You see, he's only doing his job - speeding is illegal too.

:yes:

kiwifruit

23rd July 2008, 11:06

speeding is illegal too.

:yes:

the law is an ass :yes:

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 11:09

He speaks 'the truth' above, - jrandom that is.

In the 'olde days' those issuing tickets would be in different uniforms and in differnt coloured cars to police - that way the Great Unwashed did not assume they were policemen.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of a mixture of rant and urban myth???

kiwifruit

23rd July 2008, 11:11

He speaks 'the truth' above.

:sunny:

But hey, why let facts get in the way of a mixture of rant and urban myth???
amen

jrandom

23rd July 2008, 11:24

the law is an ass

No, the law is there to protect people like me from people like you.

Innocent children are dying out there because of arrogant motorcyclists with bad attitudes.

Yes, that's right. They're dying. It's no joke.

You might as well just fuckin' shoot them and be done with it. Heck, why not start with mine?

Some of us take our responsibility to society seriously, you know. We pay our taxes, we follow the rules as much as we can, and it's the likes of you, creating a bad reputation in the public's eye, who should be fuckin' well locked up.

This country has grown far too soft. Bring back capital punishment and a good old public flogging or two, I say. That'll sort the men from the boys, and no mistake!

denill

23rd July 2008, 11:53

As long as the officer isn't being a rude arrogant tw@ I'd agree 100%.
Unfortunately there's a low percentage of officers that ruin it but hell...it's a bit like motorcyclists too eh.

The arseholes who write ya up and then say; "Have a nice day" will always cop a "Get fucked" from me. :Pokey:

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 11:55

The arseholes who write ya up and then say; "Have a nice day" will always cop a "Get fucked" from me. :Pokey:

And a 'Likewise' as I walk back to my work car...:devil2:

bully

23rd July 2008, 12:04

Back on topic...how long should these batteries last in my H.A.R.D set up thingy? [/B][/QUOTE]

honestly... it will probley f out before the batterys go flatt, my experience. and another i know.

denill

23rd July 2008, 12:05

And a 'Likewise' as I walk back to my work car...:devil2:

Hey Scummy. Do you use the "Have a nice day" parting shot?

If ya do you've gone down in my estimation as one of the better ones. With 'better' used rather loosely.

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 12:18

Hey Scummy. Do you use the "Have a nice day" parting shot?

If ya do you've gone down in my estimation as one of the better ones. With 'better' used rather loosely.

Nah, at best I'll say "Hopefully we won't meet again in these circumstances eh" or similar, just about all say "damn right' or "me too" or similar.

But when the response is "Fuck off"....

jrandom

23rd July 2008, 12:25

Nah, at best I'll say "Hopefully we won't meet again in these circumstances eh"

I would, upon hearing that, clear my throat, throw my head back, and launch into a slightly helmet-muffled but still loud rendition of 'We'll Meet Again'.

Come to think of it, I hope I get a chance to do that.

Some sunny day.

denill

23rd July 2008, 12:46

Nah, at best I'll say "Hopefully we won't meet again in these circumstances eh" or similar, just about all say "damn right' or "me too" or similar...

Mmmm, pleased to hear that.

Next time I'm down your way we may meet - hope not tho. :msn-wink:

Boob Johnson

23rd July 2008, 12:58

That'd be a damn fine signature line for a member of the :Police:

Now let's see, who is there????? :whistle:
Tis a line from a movie called "Heat" when John Voight is trying to tell De Niro to quit while you're ahead. Damn fine saying, damn fine movie :yes:

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 13:02

Tis a line from a movie called "Heat" when John Voight is trying to tell De Niro to quit while you're ahead. Damn fine saying, damn fine movie :yes:

We use it all the time - when a drunk drives home and we don't get him, when there's a crime committed but not enough evidence and we KNOW they did it, whatever.

And it's true AND they hate being told it.

Boob Johnson

23rd July 2008, 13:05

We use it all the time - when a drunk drives home and we don't get him, when there's a crime committed but not enough evidence and we KNOW they did it, whatever.

And it's true AND they hate being told it.
he he I bet they hate being told that

Gremlin

23rd July 2008, 15:55

Back on topic...how long should these batteries last in my H.A.R.D set up thingy?
hypothetically (after all, I'm a good boy, and wouldn't have any gadgetry like that) its almost bang on 5000km. Depending on how often you use it, how much you leave it on, etc etc.

Basically, turn it on, turn on the detector, it should flash briefly, that way you know the hard is working, and when you stop for a while, turn it all off, rinse and repeat when you get going again.

hypothetically of course :shifty:

bully

23rd July 2008, 16:07

madandy

23rd July 2008, 16:10

Worst piece of road ever! Boring, straight, plenty of traffic, goes nowhere interesting (Ashburton) - and it's straight and boring too. I hate it.

Did I say SH1? Admittedly its the first road you'd think of.

Time trialling between the two towns used to be quite a lark, using as little of SH1 as possible: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-apla-nz-google-gm&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=map.

note: not all roads are shown in that map ;)

scumdog

23rd July 2008, 16:12

iv gota admit, it would be pretty cool, speeding after speeders, or if the wholesale is closing just flick on the lights, nobody would know, after all who polices the police?
hey scumdog... is there such thing as citizens arrest?
or citizen car chase that would be cool, ...um i was chasing a speeder, citizens speeding ticket. ha ha.

Fark.... after seeing most citizens 'drive'? - I wouldn't let them anywhere near a chase!!!:wacko:

Cops crash during a chase - how well do you think joe citizen would do??:eek5:

And leave off the 'citizens arrest' thing - you would be buying a whole mess of legal trouble.

(sits back and waits)

kiwifruit

23rd July 2008, 16:20

Bloody citizens!!!! They should be .. etc etc

Mikkel

23rd July 2008, 16:54

Did I say SH1? Admittedly its the first road you'd think of.

Time trialling between the two towns used to be quite a lark, using as little of SH1 as possible: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-apla-nz-google-gm&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=map.

note: not all roads are shown in that map ;)

Hmm, there isn't a route shown in your link.

However, there are not that many options for getting yourself from Chch to Ashburton that are not both very flat and very straight. It's either over the Rakaia Bridge or through the Rakaia gorge - and the gorge, while lovely, is a considerable detour. (Dunno if you could find a ford somewhere inbetween, but there are none on my map.)

jrandom

23rd July 2008, 17:07

Bloody citizens!!!! They should be .. etc etc

Quoted for truth.

oldrider

23rd July 2008, 22:50

who polices the police?

Well just for starters, how many members are there on KB alone?

This is one area I do feel sorry for the Police, they have almost 5,000,000 critics in NZ and about 90% of them are very vocal currently.

The problem is that a majority of the "critics" put the politicians in office that create the problems the Police have to face every day. :argh: John.

Korumba

23rd July 2008, 23:56

Just done 4308km throughout NZ and got caught on the straights just out of South of Sanson on the straights heading North.
Cruise set 118ish in the dark about 7pm... Two up in patrol car
(oncoming)

(so can you lock on quicker with someone else in the patrol car operating the radar?) . I would expect so…

First thing he said was how fast was I going?? I said about 112kmph he said 214.

He was real cool, asked if I had a detector? I said yes. He said “It stuck out like dogs balls when my headlights hit the ground..... “

After handing him my licence he ask my occupation,

I said I don’t have one currently and am off to the States to tour on a motorcycle later this week.

He then asked me what sort of bike.

My son and I were just talking about the same thing before I got pulled up, and I am said I was thinking of a Hyabusa or another ZZR 1100 and I said a ZZR and his reply was……

“ If you said a Harley I would write you up!” Have good night and don’t speed!

Somehow I feel if I had said “ I was going to tour in a Harley” he would have said if I was going to use a Japper he would have given me a ticket… Who knows!!!!???????

The other thing he said and seemed to believe it, is that all my detector was only good for was finding speed cameras…..

The only thing I confirmed (Again) is that you need to be Awake!, and if you are doing more than 140 when your shit goes “off” you need to deicide are you Walking or Running??????

The detector gives you a few seconds more to make that choice…You will only know if you were above or below the limit if you stop to find out if Harleys , Jappers or a Euro rock the Stoppers boat….

O yeah and Morcs.. It was not a threat or a Promise, you take it anyway it fits!
Just get out there and ride Mate, that’s what this site is about…hope to catch up someday. Take care!

Swoop

24th July 2008, 08:01

First thing he said was how fast was I going?? I said about 112kmph he said 214.

With the accuracy of his equipment, writing a ticket would have been a good laugh.

marty

24th July 2008, 09:51

I've saved a FORTUNE by NOT having a radar detector - of course I never speed either. (Well not since the Island Block incident of '87).

If I got a detector would it somehow cause me to actually gain money:blink:

is that Island Block Meremere? It's good for well over 200k up there now... :)

marty

24th July 2008, 09:56

With the accuracy of his equipment, writing a ticket would have been a good laugh.

if his machine was in mistakenly in stationary mode (ie he had been sitting on the roadside and had moved off forgetting to change modes), and he was moving, it would be adding the speed of the patrol car to that of the tracked car - 214 would be easy - i've seen over 250k locked on with the stalker in that mode. fortunately only takes about 1 second to change modes again.

of course, there's no patrol speed visible/available in stationary mode, so it's not really a logical way to be writing out tickets.....

Dooly

24th July 2008, 13:38

Just been for my first ride with a radar detector.
Could'nt find a mount to fit my Duc so made one up, finially finished it, hard wired the detector, put the ear piece in, went looking for bacon.:Police:

Only got 3kms down the road, beep, beep, beep, some voice yelling in my ear telling me radar band ahead, shit near made me fall off in surprise.

Unmarked speed camera van.
Went past it, stopped, turned round went past again, guy looks at me, I give him the fingers, point to my detector.......big grin on my face.:laugh:

Yeah, immature whatever, but it just seemed so funny.......:laugh:

Got a mount on my Speed Triple, so will wire that too, and swap from bike to bike, and when not in use the missus can throw it in her company car as she gets the odd ticket.

Yep, know its not the answer, but any bit helps........

madandy

24th July 2008, 20:50

LOL Dooly!
Wait till the RD warns you of a mobile revenue gatherer...the first time its golden mate!

scumdog

24th July 2008, 20:58

LOL Dooly!
Wait till the RD warns you of a mobile revenue gatherer...the first time its golden mate!

What colour is it when the RD DOESN'T warn you of a revenue gatherer??:devil2::laugh::rofl:

Gixxer 4 ever

25th July 2008, 06:09

Unmarked speed camera van.
Went past it, stopped, turned round went past again, guy looks at me, I give him the fingers, point to my detector.......big grin on my face.:laugh:
...

:woohoo: :wari:

Gixxer 4 ever

25th July 2008, 06:18

What colour is it when the RD DOESN'T warn you of a revenue gatherer??:devil2::laugh::rofl:

And that will happen. However it is nice to be able to let the bike run from time to time and enjoy what they do best. If you get 4 years like I have Dooly you are winning mate. I might get a ticket tomorrow. Shit happens but it has been a good run for a good period of time.

The difference is we all ride rural here in the Hawkes Bay and we have plenty of opportunity to enjoy what are, essentially, empty roads. I think that’s the difference. I never speed in the 50 or 70 k zones cos that’s were the kids and people are but out on the open roads, like the Taupo road, it is great to let the bike go for a while.

Going to be a :cold: wet weekend. Take care out there everyone.

TimeOut

25th July 2008, 09:10

RD saved my bacon yesterday yet again, passed two cops within a km thought things would be sweet for a while but half way round the next corner RD starts singing again, through out the anchors and smile on the way past.

Patrick I don't doubt you have written tickets to drivers with RD's and I'm sure it'll happen to me sometime in the future but if the RD saves me $'s and demerits the other 99 times out 100 I'm happy.

Patrick

25th July 2008, 09:26

Patrick I don't doubt you have written tickets to drivers with RD's and I'm sure it'll happen to me sometime in the future but if the RD saves me $'s and demerits the other 99 times out 100 I'm happy.

None to bikes - just boy racers...

vifferman

25th July 2008, 09:39

What colour is it when the RD DOESN'T warn you of a revenue gatherer??:devil2::laugh::rofl:
I'd imagine a sort of brownish colour...

mokomoa112

25th July 2008, 12:23

None to bikes - just boy racers...

Good on ya:niceone::niceone:

TimeOut

26th July 2008, 08:50

None to bikes - just boy racers...

Now your my kind a:Police:can I give you a :grouphug:

oldrider

26th July 2008, 23:49

None to bikes - just boy racers...

Well Patrick, maybe I had better take that all back about no discretionary power then! :yes:

To be honest I have not had a ticket on a bike since 1959! :ride:

Have never used a radar detector on a bike either. :oi-grr: (have ridden with others with them though)

:Oops: Something tells me I am going to be sorry for saying that. :crybaby: John.

Swoop

27th July 2008, 16:12

It was a pleasant discovery to learn that the STI's range against camera vans, is better than the RX65 Pro.:yes:

Lias

28th July 2008, 09:29

Very interesting article on stuff this morning thats highly relevant given that we always seem to end up copying the aussies in these things.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4629014a28.html

Aussie police grapple with defective detectors
By ASHER MOSES - SMH | Thursday, 24 July 2008

Supposedly high-tech scanners bought by NSW Police this year to catch motorists with speed radar detectors installed in their cars are unable to detect some models, tests have shown.

Earlier this year Police Minister David Campbell announced 50 highway patrol cars in NSW would be fitted out with the scanner devices, confusingly dubbed radar detector detectors (RDDs).

Mr Campbell said the scanners - made by Queensland company Stealth Micro Systems with the model name Spectre - would cost police A$4000 (NZ$5119) each.

Motorists caught with a radar detector could be fined more than A$1200 and lose nine demerit points.

However, tests performed by radar detector sellers and an independent testing body have found that the Spectre scanners are useless at detecting at least two models, the Beltronics STI Driver and the newer Escort Passport 9500ci, which are freely available to buy in Australia.

Radar detectors were banned from being sold or used in NSW 21 years ago, but they are still legal for sale in other states such as Western Australia. That means police are powerless to stop people from buying them from online stores interstate, such as radars.com.au.

Police say the use of the detectors encourages dangerous driving as people could speed without fear of being caught.

Nick Balgowan, owner of radars.com.au, said the number of undetectable radar detectors was growing and even a budget radar detector was electronically much quieter than models from several years ago.

"All the radar detector manufacturers have the police scanners so they're working on ways around it all the time," he said.

Balgowan, who has worked in the industry for 10 years and has first-hand experience testing the technology, said the police scanners were designed to detect electronic noise emitted by the devices. However, the A$800 Beltronics and A$2500 Escort models include metal plates that prevent the noise from leaking out.

Tests conducted by Speed Measurement Laboratories, which tests radar detectors and related technologies for manufacturers and law enforcement agencies around the world, also found that the Beltronics model was undetectable by the Spectre police scanners.

The Escort 9500ci is based on the same design as the Beltronics model but includes a built-in police laser jammer.

The US distributor of the Spectre scanners, Stalker Radar, admits on its website that the devices are capable of detecting "all but two" radar detectors.

Further, even non-stealth radar detector models, such as the A$495 Whistler XTR690, could detect the police scanner long before the motorist was caught because even the RDDs - which are essentially modified radar detectors - produced noise, Balgowan said.

The Sydney Morning Herald asked NSW Police if it was aware that the RDDs it uses were not completely effective, and whether the revelations would undermine its efforts to catch radar detector users.

The traffic services commander, Chief Superintendent John Hartley, said: "Our RDD are state of the art and the software is immediately upgradeable by our supplier to combat any new radar detectors that are introduced on the market."

Balgowan, who said he had not received a single report of a customer being caught by police in more than two years, dismissed the response as nothing more than "scare tactics".

"They can upgrade their RDD software to scan more or wider frequencies when radar detector manufacturers bring out new radar detectors with mixers on different frequencies," he said.

"But as some of these designs have either no detectable emission (microwave or radio waves essentially) or extremely low emissions, then there is simply nothing for the police RDD to even look for."

cs363

28th July 2008, 18:49

Very interesting article on stuff this morning thats highly relevant given that we always seem to end up copying the aussies in these things.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4629014a28.html

What an absolute waste of tax payers money 'Police say the use of the detectors encourages dangerous driving as people could speed without fear of being caught.' That line there is a complete load of bollocks as anyone with a detector can confirm, realistically they'll let you get away with 10 - 15% max over the limit if you're lucky, so hardly dangerous driving, more like a dangerous loss of revenue, which they'll be needing if they keep wasting it on crap like that! :)

madandy

28th July 2008, 20:35

What colour is it when the RD DOESN'T warn you of a revenue gatherer??:devil2::laugh::rofl:

14 years since I first used one mate...never happened. Have had 3 tickets in 17 years and all three times I wasn't using a RD :laugh:.
As stated by several RD users, the RD is a tool, one of several we use to allow small (and sometimes not so small) deviations from written limits.
I can honestly say that ever since I started using a RD, every time I drive or ride with one I have been far more aware of my speed. Basically this means riding/driving at a pace that allows one to adjust ones' pace quickly in response to the RD's warnings. And that means travelling at speeds quite appropriate to the conditions - something you should be applauding rather than rubbishing.

sinned

28th July 2008, 21:22

It is not that the detector fails but because of the situation insufficient warning is given. Speed and you will get caught but not as often with a detector.

I tend not too speed much on the HP hunting grounds and that is partly because of the STI (most excellent device). With the STI you see more cops on the road. This was a wake up for me with my first trip with the STI in the cage to a track day in Taupo - from that trip I realised there are more unmarked cars on the road and parked up than I had noticed before.

My last ticket was in the cage SH50 115kms, quiet road, just me and the cop and no STI mounted. A year ago on the SV1000 with STI, around a bend and the STI chirped, no time to slow - he had me. 114kms - as I was riding a big bike I was advised to cool it, no ticket. (http://diary-of-a-born-again-biker.blogspot.com/2007/09/sunday-morning-and-to-martinborough-for.html)

I spent the dosh on the STI after getting pinged in what I thought was and should be a 70kph zone (a 50kph zone) with a cop just around a bend from an overbridge. I was coasting just at the second 50kph sign. This pissed me off heaps - a revenue spot.

For most of the time an RD keeps you alert when they are out hunting. At the best they will save a few tickets if you speed. Best rule is keep below 110 in the high risk areas even with an RD - and go with the wind on the motorcycle roads.

robertydog

28th July 2008, 21:43

Im glad i got an STI then.

TimeOut

29th July 2008, 07:41

buying one today

Winston001

29th July 2008, 12:31

Im glad i got an STI then.

Oh dear. Sexually Transmitted Infection. :Oops: Never mind, a course of tetracycline will clear it up and next time.......be careful out there. :yes:

Swoop

29th July 2008, 12:42

buying one today
This thread seems to lifted sales...
A bare minimum of three.

rustycharm

29th July 2008, 23:35

Swoop

30th July 2008, 12:15

Doesn't seem to be too much support here for the valentine...(
That is simply beacause the independant testing (posted earlier in the thread) proves that the Valentine doesn't stack up in capability, nowadays. It needs an upgrade. They are "good" though, but I like "bloody excellent"...

BigG

30th July 2008, 12:40

Since I blew my old Radar up Ive had two tickets, must get me another, cos who looks at their speedo when riding you maybe keep glancing at it but how often, theres to many things to keep watching out for and your speed tends to creep up eh!

RiderInBlack

30th July 2008, 13:09

Had a Escort 8500 x50 for 3years now but it is packing a sad. Screen not reading properly and can't reprogram it. It's gone back to factory default so I get to know where all the petrol stations and Banks are as well as the cops as long as long as it doesn't restart after hitting a bump again. Cost me $500. Only got 1 ticket ($150) for speed since having it and have covered over 50,000km since having it. Total cost of $650 for speed related expenses in 3years, so ruffly $217/yr. Was it worth it. I like ta think so, but a close call that one. Next RD? The Escort was not bad, but frustrating when it started ta pack a sad. How well will the next one last (considering the pounding the last one got even in the waterproof housing I made for it)?

Macstar

30th July 2008, 16:52

Doesn't seem to be too much support here for the valentine... After owning 3 - 4 RD's over the years... just can't recommend them highly enough. Seems to pick up radar slightly earlier than most and gives you that extra second or two to scrub off the extra kms.
That said... what ever you use .... yer stuffed if the bacon is running in pulse mode and you don't see the blue and red antlers in time. :(

I've been happy with my trial test of a new V1 on the road to Ruapehu and back. Good detection range and lots of it i.e. a lot of cops on that stretch of road. Picked up the narrow beam of a speed camera van from about 500m away and that was pointed away from me at traffic on the other side of the motorway. That would have been ample time to adjust your speed if need be. Also picked up a sneaky copper (approx 200m before an overpass). The cop was shooting radar down the motorway on ramp ahead of me getting cars from behind - but I knew his intentions at least 500m before I would have even come into his radar range. My detection range suffered greatly when I was behind a truck though i.e. it went down to about 2-300m when an oncoming copper came my way.

Went through the roof on Tip Top corner of the Southern Motorway as a cop fired laser at me. Not sure however if by that point the cop already had my speed or not. Anyway, I wasn't speeding at that particulary time so no probs.

Haven't tried a STI, but happy with the V1 and the inidicative arrows pointing where the radar is coming from is so awesome i.e. a cop sneaking up behind you, or a speed camera van to your side etc...

rustycharm

30th July 2008, 19:31

Yeah ... like the arrows on the v1 - very handy. Had a quick trip down to hammy today... went zipping past a cop lurking on one of the on ramps just past meremere... (out of sight until its too late) got lit up by his wee laser gun ... no time to react and the rear mirror lit up all in red and blue.

Luckily he picked up the tailgating prick in the merc behind me who probably looked more likely to be able to afford the ticket.
Lesson ... doesnt matter what RD you have if the sneaky pricks dont want to play fair!!!

rustycharm

30th July 2008, 19:35

i got mine from Parallel Importers and they said it had been set up for NZ.
Who does the upgrades and how do ya know if the unit needs it?
Doesnt seem to pick up all the trash that cheaper RDs do

Patrick

30th July 2008, 20:54

doesnt matter what RD you have if the sneaky pricks dont want to play fair!!!

Flashing headlights warning of lurking snake ahead, radar detectors... who aint playing fair???

madandy

30th July 2008, 22:49

Flashing headlights warning of lurking snake ahead, radar detectors... who aint playing fair???

Hiding in obscure places, mufti cars, your word agaist ours. helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes, road blocks...

our early warning devices are fair.

scumdog

31st July 2008, 00:14

Hiding in obscure places, mufti cars, your word agaist ours. helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes, road blocks...

our early warning devices are fair.

So are the things you listed in the first part of that post.:Punk:

Gremlin

31st July 2008, 02:49

Who does the upgrades and how do ya know if the unit needs it?
All that is involved is removing certain bands, perhaps making other bands stronger or something, read up on it a while ago... its just setting the correct bands for what is used for the local market.

So are the things you listed in the first part of that post.:Punk:
oi, none of this truth stuff around here mister :oi-grr: Its like a more expensive version of cops and robbers... (cept we ain't robbers) :lol:

Jdogg

31st July 2008, 08:34

i got mine from Parallel Importers and they said it had been set up for NZ.
Who does the upgrades and how do ya know if the unit needs it

Just pop on to the v1 website they have all the instructions that you need,:clap:

don't listen to mr Radar direct who has been out to bag other importers of V1s and other brands for ages, I have even got in contact with the V1 office in the US and had a chat to them about the supposed upgrades promoted by a local supplier here and they were very quick to point out that he was full of it, :nono:

V1 Bel and escorts are all good RD's you just have to take your time to learn how to ride with them, and you will most likely find that they make you drive a little bit slower once you realise how many close calls you actually have. :Police:

scumdog

31st July 2008, 09:38

and you will most likely find that they make you drive a little bit slower once you realise how many close calls you actually have. :Police:

As I know how many more :Police: are out there (compared to the average punter) I tend to ride more cautiously than I would had I never had this job.

kiwifruit

31st July 2008, 09:46

just slow down

cs363

31st July 2008, 11:57

Just pop on to the v1 website they have all the instructions that you need,:clap:

don't listen to mr Radar direct who has been out to bag other importers of V1s and other brands for ages, I have even got in contact with the V1 office in the US and had a chat to them about the supposed upgrades promoted by a local supplier here and they were very quick to point out that he was full of it, :nono:

V1 Bel and escorts are all good RD's you just have to take your time to learn how to ride with them, and you will most likely find that they make you drive a little bit slower once you realise how many close calls you actually have. :Police:

:2thumbsup Couldn't agree more.

bully

31st July 2008, 14:10

just slow down

youv allready said that, dosnt seem to be working huh.

kiwifruit

31st July 2008, 14:17

youv allready said that, dosnt seem to be working huh.

no, people insist on breaking the laws in place for their own good

boomer

31st July 2008, 14:23

no, people insist on breaking the laws in place for their own good

Selfish people EVERYWHERE huh fruity...

SLOW DOWN NIGGERS !

rustycharm

31st July 2008, 21:16

Having an RD isn't a license to speed like a twat and anyone with 1/2 a brain is going to ride to the conditions...
But I do object to the enjoyment tax imposed when you get pinged for doing 111kms on an empty road.

Stormer

1st August 2008, 17:57

Hiding in obscure places, mufti cars, your word agaist ours. helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes, road blocks...

our early warning devices are fair.

Ha, snap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick

5th August 2008, 20:40

Hiding in obscure places, mufti cars, your word agaist ours. helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes, road blocks...

our early warning devices are fair.

Parked at the sid of the road, brightly coloured as a brightly coloured thing... Sneaky pricks....

Mufti cars, that look exactly like cop cars - with those shitty steel rims... damn sneaky, that...!!!

My word is spot on - you should hear some of the excuses...!!!

Helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes... perk of the job. No helcopter here, high speed chases? Pull out and stop if they get to 140kmph on a deserted highway. Road spikes? Damn lethal, them things...

Road blocks???? You meaning a booze bus checkpoint? Bastards!!!

idleidolidyll

5th August 2008, 21:14

After not one but two dumbarse chickenshit speeding tickets on the weekend from Highway Patrol boys trawlin' the straights on the Napier-Taupo road with their radars on (I know because I asked) I've decided to bite the bullet and get a radar detector.

I can pinch the budget real hard and pay $900 new, plus a screamer and cost of installation, for the radar detector du jour, the Beltronics STi (or $660-ish plus the hassle of getting it back from the USA), or I can look for something cheaper and/or secondhand from one of the reputable brands, like the Beltronics RX65, a model which I've been assured is 'pretty good'.

Frankly, if it wasn't for the demerit points angle, I wouldn't consider a $1,000-ish radar detector worth the hassle. A grand pays a lot of speeding tickets.

However, I'm about to endure a three-month licence suspension and don't want to endure another one in the future. You can't put a dollar value on not having to use the pushbike every day.

Now, I know that plenty of you have had good experiences with radar detectors. My question is, though, have any of you ever had a radar detector, of any brand, fail to save you from a ticket?

If so, what were the circumstances, and do you think a more expensive model might have saved your arse where the one you had didn't?

PS: A certain KBer fuckin' well owes me about ten pints, and they know who they are.

<_<

Get the Bel STi-XR, the Bel STi-R, or the Escort Passport 9500ci

these are the only ones that cannot be detected by the pigs radar detector detectors including the much lauded Spectre IV

that way you'll be able to evade the bastards when and if they make em illegal

read this blog, he's probably the premiere expert:
http://veilguy.blogspot.com/

You can get the Bel STi on that un-nameable trading site for about 600 smackers: a great investment

Stormer

6th August 2008, 17:38

Good link there.
Looks like I`m gonna have to upgrade the trusty 8500...

Rback

6th August 2008, 20:26

Have just bought a Sti-XR. Now I want to get a Screamer but cant find anyone up here that sells them. Anyone know where I can get one?

madandy

6th August 2008, 21:53

Parked at the sid of the road, brightly coloured as a brightly coloured thing... Sneaky pricks....

Mufti cars, that look exactly like cop cars - with those shitty steel rims... damn sneaky, that...!!!

My word is spot on - you should hear some of the excuses...!!!

Helicopters, high speed chases, road spikes... perk of the job. No helcopter here, high speed chases? Pull out and stop if they get to 140kmph on a deserted highway. Road spikes? Damn lethal, them things...

Road blocks???? You meaning a booze bus checkpoint? Bastards!!!

Bastards indeed, :cool:
All's fair, right :niceone:

Morepower

6th August 2008, 22:45

Good link there.
Looks like I`m gonna have to upgrade the trusty 8500...

If thats an X50 dont be in too much of a rush , I use a beat up old X50 Escort on the bike and a brand spanking STi-XR in the car , there is nothing in it between the two performance wise ( in real life ) .

TimeOut

6th August 2008, 23:42

Have just bought a Sti-XR. Now I want to get a Screamer but cant find anyone up here that sells them. Anyone know where I can get one?

Hi
I've just bought one as well, I got my screamer from the states ($99 US) but has a 2.5mm plug for my old RD so haven't tried it with the Sti adapter on the way.

Wrapped with the Sti, 4 alerts on last trip no false ones, picked up one using instant on about 8k away on the Cantabury straights. Another over a hill and round a corner.

RiderInBlack

7th August 2008, 06:17

If thats an X50 dont be in too much of a rush , I use a beat up old X50 Escort on the bike and a brand spanking STi-XR in the car , there is nothing in it between the two performance wise ( in real life ) .And this could be the reason for that:

Escort's latest invention, the all-new PASSPORT® 9500i, has revolutionized the radar detector category again. Its blistering performance is derived from the "World's Best" PASSPORT® 8500 X50, which means it delivers the best protection possible against all speed measuring devices. Escort® has added advanced GPS-powered intelligence, which makes the PASSPORT® 9500i the best performing, quietest and most user-friendly radar detector ever designed.

Take from here: http://www.motorcycleradar.com/products_pg2_4.htm#9500i

Stormer

7th August 2008, 07:08

True about the X50.
Sometimes mine gives that much of an early warning that you begin to think it`s a false reading!

Morepower

7th August 2008, 07:51

And this could be the reason for that:

Escort's latest invention, the all-new PASSPORT® 9500i, has revolutionized the radar detector category again. Its blistering performance is derived from the "World's Best" PASSPORT® 8500 X50, which means it delivers the best protection possible against all speed measuring devices. Escort® has added advanced GPS-powered intelligence, which makes the PASSPORT® 9500i the best performing, quietest and most user-friendly radar detector ever designed.

Take from here: http://www.motorcycleradar.com/products_pg2_4.htm#9500i

I would be willing to bet , that given the ST1 Bel came out after the Bel/ Escort Merger that the real guts of these detectors are all very similar. They both have the very useful frequency readout , where once you learn the frequencies you know whats about , ie Camera , Patrol Car or False alarm

idleidolidyll

8th August 2008, 20:24

I would be willing to bet , that given the ST1 Bel came out after the Bel/ Escort Merger that the real guts of these detectors are all very similar. They both have the very useful frequency readout , where once you learn the frequencies you know whats about , ie Camera , Patrol Car or False alarm

yeah, they are pretty much the same detector side of things but with different features added.
the two companies are barely seperate nowadays

My old Bel 950XR still gives lots of warning but we have 2 cars and 3 bikes so it makes sense to update to the new undetectables

Gizzit

7th December 2008, 20:44

These don't look to bad .... ?

http://www.laserveil.com/whistler/xtr-695/

I think they are quite a lot cheaper than the V1, Sti, X50 ...

Not that I would ever NEED one of these mind you ..... :innocent: ;)

Det.Shane

7th January 2009, 16:42

Very interesting article on stuff this morning thats highly relevant given that we always seem to end up copying the aussies in these things.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4629014a28.html

ASHER MOSES is just another alias Conman Nick Balgowan uses from www.radars.com.au

http://nickbalgowan.blogspot.com/

Sales hurting for Nick Balgowan of http://www.radars.com.au - http://www.tcgindustrial.com.au company name Total Control Pty Ltd .

Nick is trying very hard to get more sales by using scare tactics.
All his radar detectors and Jammers are all detectable. But he denies that.

Bel Sti is the only real 100% undetected unit in this world.
Read through radars.com.au and you will understand what a conman Nick Balgowan realy is. He uses scare tactics to make customers beleive that if you dont buy from Nick, then you are risking buying fakes with no warranty from other websites.

The truth is, there is no such thing as fake radar detectors.
The Radar detector manufacturers in USA know theres no such thing as fake radars.The USA Sellers and distributers know theres no such thing as fake radars.Only a small struggling backyard operation run by Nick balgowan at radars.com.au makes up a story about fake radars, so you can buy from his website.

Be free to buy radar detectors from anywhere else other than from radars.com.au they have a mark up of 500% and all radars from Nick are all detectable by Australian Spectre police detectors.

Buying radar detectors straight from USA is the most sensible thing to do.You don't get ripped off by conmen like Nick Balgowan.

"Nick Balgowan from radars.com.au has a long history of being a conman. His most infamous stunt was in 2006 when he had a Korean company change the label on the worst radar detector on the face of the planet, the Rocky Mountain Radar, to be called the Stealth Ninja! WAAHHHHHH I CHOP YOU! He claimed that the Stealth Ninja was undetectable by the Spectre III RDD when clearly it wasn't. He sucked people out of thousands of dollars for these things when he was bringing them in for about $100AUD. But his hand drawn cartoon of an 80's ninja with a mullet was at least entertaining, I think he did it himself.

Looks like Nick Balgowan is trying the same conman stunt with the Whistlers. You can get these on ebay.com for about $130 bucks or buy them from his dodgy ass for $600?? WTF? Same old conman, a brand new day to scam your money. Beware of this mofo, once he has your money you will never get any support for your asian made piece of crap again. BEWARE of this guy and his many dubious claims. Bad karma is heading his way, don't get sucked our of your money before it hits him hard."

Nick Balgowan getting caught again, spinning shit in radar forums using aliases to try and sell his products.http://www.radardetector.net/forums/72989-post55.html

Nick Balgowan getting caught again using multiple aliases, trying to defame a rival competitor.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=21884

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/spectre-vg2/4990-regular-sears-roebuck-dealer.html

Conman Nick Balgowan not only posting in world wide forums to lure victims to buy his products, but he even lists his website to a business Directory in Greece.How desperate is that...
http://www.greece.snn.gr/id_Auto_Accessories/

Note: www.australianradar.com is also one of many websites of nicks.

http://fortressaustralia.blogspot.com/2008/01/state-vs-road-warrior.html

check out Conman Nick Balgowan alias 'boy-racer' telling everyone how great his radars.com.au site is.http://www.ehow.com/how_107478_buy-radar-detector.html

Some of Conman Nick balgowan websites to stay away from:

http://www.radar-detectors-australia.com.au/
http://www.nomorefines.com.au/
http://radardetector.com.au/
http://radars.com.au
http://www.antilaser.com.au/
http://www.laserjammer.com.au/
http://www.tcgindustrial.com.au/
http://beatpsoriasis.com/

As you can see Nick Balgowan has tried to also con philippines in his fake scams and marketing scemes.
http://www.philippine-imarketing.com/im-knowledge-base/what-involved-business.txt

PrincessBandit

7th January 2009, 20:50

My radar detectors fail me all the time (you know, the two just above your nose and under your eyebrows). My husband always says to me "didn't you see that patrol car/mufti/van whatever back there?" "Uh, no....."
Just as well I not speed ay!!! (most of the time).

Naki Rat

7th January 2009, 21:14

From my own experience HPs tend to flick the instant on or speed gun on frequently enough for a detector to pick up the 'bounce' or 'overspray' of the radar targeting vehicles before you. By the time you are in range of the radar you have often already picked up a number of warnings.

Detectors are definitely not a licence to travel at warp speed however and probably will give enough warning to allow you to loose 15-20kmh before being in radar range depending on whether you hit the brakes quickly enough. Obviously every situation is different and experienced HPs will choose the radar site to maximise their advantage. Similarly experience with using a detector will teach you where and when its effectiveness may be compromised, so you ride/drive accordingly.

Detectors' best effectiveness is in avoiding those round town concentration lapses that otherwise would result in annoying 10-15 kmh infringements.

The point is therefore on long straights the detection range of a good (I have a Bel RX65) detector is much more than the accurate speed measuring range of a radar unit. The weak point then is where the cop is using instant-on mode and doesn't hit you until he is within range and you are doing warp speed lulled into a false sense of security by your detector.

Swoop

7th January 2009, 21:29

Naki Rat

7th January 2009, 21:44

I opted for a visual warning for the RX65 rather than a screamer that not only advertises to all within earshot that you have a 'pig sniffer' but is also potentially embarrassing in city riding.

The photos show the set-up I have which uses red superbright LEDs powered from the earphone jack of the detector. Simple but effective - definitely catches my attention!

I don't ride after dark usually but for night riding the display from the detector would probably be sufficient as the LEDs would nuke your night vision big time :doh:

Dooly

8th January 2009, 12:06

STi notches up another 3 credits.
A sneaky mobile camera...
A weird activation that kept on hinting of "something" out from a Donut shop... and low and behold a nice man in a car appears from over a hill towards me.
Another detection of at least 45 degrees off of "straight ahead".

Cheers Mr Bel!:yes:

Mine saved me on Monday.
Was idling along looking at the scenery out rural here on a long straight, no cars around.
Get the chirp, KA band word in the ear. Look at speedo, 140, look up, nothing, slow down to 100. A couple of ks away round a corner comes 2 cars. Second car was mufti Commodore.
Thanks Mr Beltronics.:msn-wink:

scumdog

8th January 2009, 20:20

Got three over December with 'radar detectors' - instant-on beats Belltronics and all other makes..hehehehehe!!!

Dooly

8th January 2009, 20:25

Got three over December with 'radar detectors' - instant-on beats Belltronics and all other makes..hehehehehe!!!

Bikes or cars?
Ya win some, ya lose some.....

AD345

8th January 2009, 20:34

Got three over December with 'radar detectors' - instant-on beats Belltronics and all other makes..hehehehehe!!!

Y'know - its really refreshing to see someone taking pleasure in their work

:2thumbsup

Gizzit

9th January 2009, 17:44

Got three over December with 'radar detectors' - instant-on beats Belltronics and all other makes..hehehehehe!!!

Congratulations !!! :third: I must get one .... and join in the game !! :laugh:

MarkH

9th January 2009, 20:36

Got three over December with 'radar detectors' - instant-on beats Belltronics and all other makes..hehehehehe!!!

I don't think it was the Beltronics you beat, more a case of beating complacent drivers that think it is OK to break the law as long as the detector is quiet. The detector is merely a device to remind you that there are cops about and to watch your speed - if you regularly hoon about at speed well over the limit you are likely to get done eventually.

I haven't had a radar detector for many years, but I used to a while back. I have received tickets while the radar detector was on in my car, but saved more money then the detector cost from the tickets I didn't receive. I once got a ticket when my speed was measured by digi-strips (no longer used), but it certainly wasn't the detector's fault!

scumdog

9th January 2009, 21:41

I don't think it was the Beltronics you beat, more a case of beating complacent drivers that think it is OK to break the law as long as the detector is quiet.

I once got a ticket when my speed was measured by digi-strips (no longer used), but it certainly wasn't the detector's fault!

Yup, maybe true but the end result was the same - and why buy a product and ignore it's whole resone'd'etre????

And also same here - my one speed ticket was the result of Digitector strips.

MarkH

9th January 2009, 22:03

Yup, maybe true but the end result was the same - and why buy a product and ignore it's whole resone'd'etre????

Well, you can drive/ride at around 120kph and slow when the detector warns you of nearby law enforcement, but you still have to live with a ticket when snapped by 'instant on'. At least at 120 the fine & demerits wont be too severe.

If you rip around at 160+ all the time and rely on the detector to save your license - you'll soon be walking! (or dead/injured)

Swoop

10th January 2009, 07:36

I once got a ticket when my speed was measured by digi-strips (no longer used),
The truckies did very well, by getting rid of those devices!!!:wari::laugh:

scumdog

10th January 2009, 09:33

The truckies did very well, by getting rid of those devices!!!:wari::laugh:

Pah, a lot couln't tell the difference between traffic counters and digitectors..

gixxer-king

10th January 2009, 10:56

im putting my neck out for my V1. catches them approaching from almost any angle. gooooooood long distance ahead too. from behind its ok but not the best (but hey its for a car mid mounted for a clear view not meant for right in front of my fat arse. $940 cost me and has kept my tab alot lower then it should be, at the same time I only do 120-125 on the motorway so the second it goes off its on the picks and man i've usually gone past the cop at 100 dot on if hes sneaky and around a sharp bend poking it through the trees.

gixxer-king

10th January 2009, 10:56

plus damn easy to install on a bike thanks to a number of cables you can buy for them

bsasuper

10th January 2009, 15:14

Gizzit

10th January 2009, 15:32

Ive had a bel sti for a while now and when it goes off i take note.Its awsome on Ka and even saved me from a lazer by picking up a bit of scatter, or else the nice lady standing on the motorway overpass is still learning to aim.

From all reports .... the Bel STi seems to be the better of the detectors around.

I don't think I would ever ride in a way needed to rely on one though. I think I would always be looking at my speed as I do now ....

I doubt I would have much use for one anymore ... I'm thinking of "graduating" to a cruiser anyway !!! ..... the pace or style of relaxed riding seems to appeal more to me now .... ;)

PrincessBandit

13th January 2009, 12:52

Looks like the prospect of detectors being banned is going to be raised again this year (article on the stuff homepage today). Reading through most of the comments posted I had to laugh as it was just like reading a KB thread.

MarkH

13th January 2009, 13:15

Looks like the prospect of detectors being banned is going to be raised again this year (article on the stuff homepage today).

The ban looks likely to fail again.
Link to article: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4816468a11.html

National's then transport spokesman, Maurice Williamson, opposed the move, saying "people use them to moderate their speed".

"I'm not sure that a Big Brother attitude is a good thing."

Canterbury road policing manager Inspector Derek Erasmus said radar detectors did not prevent motorists from getting caught.

"I issued a speeding ticket to a person last Thursday who was in a rental car and the person had come from out of town and brought their radar detector with them. They don't necessarily make any difference other than to show a proclivity on behalf of the driver to speed."

Police officers ticketing people for speeding regularly saw radar detectors, he said.

"Some people think it will enable them to speed and endanger the public without getting caught, but that's not necessarily the case."

If National's transport spokesman is against the ban and police are happily ticketing the users of detectors then I don't think it is overly likely that a ban will go through.

I recall hearing the idea of a law change to ban detectors about 20 years ago, it still hasn't happened.