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Tank
25th July 2008, 12:14
Edit - Mobile not Gull

Like a lot of folk - I hate having to prepay - only to find I needed $17 and not the $20 I had paid and having to stand in line a second time simply to get my change - where they try and convince me to buy the special of the day.

I don't mind the local Mobile as its right on my way home, is clean with a ton of space, and most importantly has Eftpos at the pump.

Pull up, swipe, fill, fuck off back onto the road - excellent!

So I try and do this last night - and none of the pumps have eftpos at the pump working. OK - no biggie must be a fault - so I head inside.

There they have a big sign saying that you can pay at the pumps with your Mobile card (so the machines are working) - but now you have to eftpos inside (and I joke not) - and save money by spending $4 in the shop at the same time.

So fans of eftpos at pump - may pay to start ignoring Mobile

I questioned the shop assistant (like they assist with fuck all) and he said its the new chain policy to get you inside.

I never believed the argument that locking the pumps is a 'marketing scheme' to get you inside as opposed to preventing drive offs - but I guess this kind of proves that it is.

I feel sorry for the owners that do have drive offs - but this is taking the piss. So - now I use the local BP. Guessing that we spend $100 on fuel a week - that's a loss of about 5k to that station a year.

Magua
25th July 2008, 12:17
Seems to be the same for Mobil now. I used to always go to them for eftpos at the pump. A few days ago I found out that all of their eftpos terminals are for mobil card owners only.

munster
25th July 2008, 12:18
They won't care too much.

I refuse to use the local BP as they always insist on prepay, even weaving my BP Fuelcard is not enough for them to unlock the pump. Fuck 'em.

I go to the local Challenge every time. They even come out and pump my gas for me.

Tank
25th July 2008, 12:19
sorry - my post should have read mobile - Im editing it now

scott411
25th July 2008, 12:59
They won't care too much.

I refuse to use the local BP as they always insist on prepay, even weaving my BP Fuelcard is not enough for them to unlock the pump. Fuck 'em.

I go to the local Challenge every time. They even come out and pump my gas for me.

got to love the cahllange at puke, real service, they sellr ace gas, and locally owned

munster
25th July 2008, 13:03
got to love the challenge at puke, real service, they sell race gas, and locally owned

Yup, good shit. Leaded 120 Octane over $3 a litre now, the boat loves it too.

Mully
25th July 2008, 13:03
I noticed that a week or so ago at my local Mobil - thought maybe it was just ours.

Don't matter anywho, I have a tame attendant who turns the pump on as soon as she sees the mighty RF arrive.

fireball
25th July 2008, 13:10
i have yet to have a problem with caltex of all places.....

pull up attendent turns pump on fill up walk inside use LilSels fuel card leave.....

its so easy :laugh:

The Pastor
25th July 2008, 13:20
yeah finding a good servo to get gas is a real chalange.

I dont go to bp becasue they are dicks with rising the price first. + locked pumps
I dont go to mobil because of locked pumps.

I find shell to be the best so far, never had a locked pump yet - but no efpos at pumps.

Don't have a local caltex, but from memory they are OK.

Gull, I hate waiting in line for people who do there shopping at the 24hrs thing.

jrandom
25th July 2008, 13:21
use LilSels fuel card

To fill your bike?

I love the smell of theft as a servant in the morning.

fireball
25th July 2008, 13:25
To fill your bike?

I love the smell of theft as a servant in the morning.


you silly man her personal fuel card not work one rawberry doesnt like that oily diesel stuff

jrandom
25th July 2008, 13:26
you silly man her personal fuel card not work one rawberry doesnt like that oily diesel stuff

I did wonder whether the purchase of 91 octane petrol ten litres at a time for a diesel ute might raise a few eyebrows.

:laugh:

merv
25th July 2008, 13:28
Is a Mobile gas station one that comes to us, or is it just a plain old Mobil station?

cruza
25th July 2008, 13:34
Mobil pulled eftpos at pump ages ago down here. Sucks big time. As with all the other stations they want you to go inside to buy a coffee or some of there ova priced pastry. It would make it so simple eftpos at pump ....no drive offs and so much quicker..for the customer! Lately I've been doing the pac 'n' sav thing as they have pumps on site. do the shopping fill the car and jerry can(eftpos at pump) and 15c a litre off. Still hurts the wallet through:laugh:

Adulf
25th July 2008, 13:37
Dude, we haven't had eftpos at the pump in Wellington for years, the machines kept crapping out.
What piss's me off about Mobile, is that they changed the 98 Octane to contain 10% ethanol and don't tell you that they have done it, until you go in to pay. Then they pull out a sheet of paper to say sorry your bike isn’t cleared to use this new fuel and may stuff it! And the shits no cheaper!!!!

Morcs
25th July 2008, 13:46
Mobil is gay.

anyone who actually pays for prepay on the bike should just bend over. stand by the pump with the nozzle in ya tank until they turn it on - if they get on the pa system and instruct prepay only, then get on ya bike and go to a different gassy.

btw, heres the ethanol list.

Grahameeboy
25th July 2008, 14:00
Sorry but I don't have problems with petrol stations...

Tank
25th July 2008, 14:02
Mobil is gay.

anyone who actually pays for prepay on the bike should just bend over. stand by the pump with the nozzle in ya tank until they turn it on - if they get on the pa system and instruct prepay only, then get on ya bike and go to a different gassy.

btw, heres the ethanol list.

FUCK - I asked if the Suzuki was OK and they told me - yup!

Morcs
25th July 2008, 14:05
FUCK - I asked if the Suzuki was OK and they told me - yup!

Yep, and look in the other thread (about the hyosungs) and it has an NZ list which says Suzukis are ok.

imdying
25th July 2008, 14:17
if they get on the pa system and instruct prepay only, then get on ya bike and go to a different gassyLeave the nozzle on the ground where all other useless items belong too...

Morcs
25th July 2008, 15:00
Leave the nozzle on the ground where all other useless items belong too...

I once threw a traffic cone at the window of the shell on rata street. he wouldnt let me fill up whilst straddling my bike, and then wanted pre pay.

WRT
25th July 2008, 15:11
FWIW, there is a $100 limit on EFTPOS at pump anyway. Used to only hit it when on the way to a track day and filling up the car, the bike, and a jerry can. These days the car will do it by itself no worries. I actually had forgotten about that when filling up at the Taupo Mobil last weekend on the way to the Berm Buster ride. Filled the car first, hit the limit while still having no gas for the bike.

Was not a happy camper, I tell ya. :mad:

Gubb
25th July 2008, 16:51
I questioned the shop assistant (like they assist with fuck all) and he said its the new chain policy to get you inside.

Sorry, the kid must have known next-to-nothing.

It's the new chip-card Credit cards that are the problem, the machines on the pumps won't recognize them, and won't use them, and the primative software dies at the very whiff of new technology, so rather that upgrade the machines (and give themselves something to stand out from their competitors) they will be making them MobilCard and FleetCard only.

Pretty piss-poor effort if you ask me.

Blackshear
25th July 2008, 17:01
Ah. I never actually knew Mobil did this. Felt like a right stupid dickhead standing at the pump, squeezing the handle... Waiting... Waiting...
Go inside, 'Is the pump broken or something?' Walk back out and try again...

Walk back in. 'Yo, can I please fill up my bike?'
"Fill up? ooooooooh! Ok!"
Sure enough, I can fill up my bike. Couldn't stop scratching my head over that one.

Only took another fill up for him to realise I'll fill up every time =)
Good Mr. Pump guy, good Mr. Pump guy.

Nice quote Gubb!

P.s, how the hell do I attach a fuel gauge or a water temp gauge to my prehistoric animal?

Or a hood cluster... On my tank...

cynna
25th July 2008, 17:03
i cant be bothered with prepay- its ok if you want to put say $20 in but when i want to fill my tank its too much of a hassle. i just end up going to the next service station and never go back to the prepay one

scracha
25th July 2008, 17:39
$100 on fuel a week - that's a loss of about 5k to that station a year.
Sure, because they brew the fuel themselves. Probably about $100 a year they're losing.

scracha
25th July 2008, 17:41
I once threw a traffic cone at the window of the shell on rata street. he wouldnt let me fill up whilst straddling my bike, and then wanted pre pay.

It's a safety issue. The bloke could lose his job for turning the pump on whilst you're straddling the bike. Similar with smoking, using mobile phones, etc etc.

munster
25th July 2008, 17:50
Similar with smoking, using mobile phones, etc etc.

Mythbusters proved that a cellphone could not ignite petrol vapour, nor a cigarette light petrol.

Gubb
25th July 2008, 18:27
Mythbusters proved that a cellphone could not ignite petrol vapour, nor a cigarette light petrol.

I have a video that shows otherwise, a woman with half her face burnt. Not pretty.

scracha
25th July 2008, 18:41
Mythbusters proved that a cellphone could not ignite petrol vapour, nor a cigarette light petrol.
Whatever. Them 's the fuckin rules and the guy at the till doesn't make them.

Try smoking a cigarette in the pits of one of the motorcycle race meetings and see how popular you are.

MGST
25th July 2008, 18:46
Yup, good shit. Leaded 120 Octane over $3 a litre now, the boat loves it too.

Fuck that! I got Avgas about 4 weeks ago for $2.51 / litre. Bro, get yourself a race licence ( a fair dinkum Motorsport / Motorcycle New Zealand one ) and go and buy it from Ardmore airfield like I do.


i have yet to have a problem with caltex of all places.....

+1, and Shell too


It's a safety issue. The bloke could lose his job for turning the pump on whilst you're straddling the bike.

I've only ever filled the bike while sitting on it. Have NEVER got off it, and never been asked to either. If they ask me to get off my bike, I'll get off their forecourt and go somewhere else. Without trying to sound like a redneck, most staff at gas stations a muncha's who don't give two fucks what you do as long as you fork over the coin. Hell, I've spent 20 minutes washing the company truck with the windscreen brush on several seperate occasions, and then gone in to pay for the gas, and they never said "boo".

Gremlin
25th July 2008, 18:55
I'll accept that I have to prepay or something at 2 or 3am, but I never prepay, I just leave the card there, and say, "I'll pay when I have filled". (Probably helps I never take the helmet off, and walk out immediately, giving them zero time for arguments :msn-wink:

Even thats a rarity. Most will let me fill up immediately, and this works across brands, fuel stations etc. Maybe aucklanders are a friendly bunch? :bleh:

edit: oh, and I fill up while straddling the bike (how else do you get it exact each time?) and with all my gear on, unless I have a reason to take it off (ie, the gas station is a proper stop).

Guided_monkey
25th July 2008, 19:37
Stuff the pre-pay. The bike only takes 15 litres normally. I just stand there with the nozzle in the bike. Most of the servo's I use realise that it's just not worth the hassle for bikers to ride off (20 litres max).

Beside's I only use the visa so I only want to unbutton once......... if I have to unbutton the wets more than once, I'll NOT be a happy customer.

Asking for the manager's always a good move.

:bash:

Neon
25th July 2008, 23:00
Nup, never have this problem around Glenfield / Albany. Never pre-pay, just get off, pick up the nozzle and start filling. Don't take my helmet off anymore either. Caltex are my choice for overall buying experience.

munster
26th July 2008, 09:13
We'll all be heading this way shortly when petrol runs out anyway.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/munster4x4/DogBike.jpg

musicman
26th July 2008, 11:40
We'll all be heading this way shortly when petrol runs out anyway.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/munster4x4/DogBike.jpg

How much does dog food cost?

Gremlin
27th July 2008, 04:37
How much does dog food cost?
a whole lot more when there isn't the fuel to transport the dog food to your local supermarket ;)

k14
27th July 2008, 08:36
sorry - my post should have read mobile - Im editing it now
Pretty simple solution, just get a mobil card. I've had one for over 2 years now. Great things, can fill up whenever you want but best of all you get approx 5-10c a litre off (depending on where you fill up, its referenced to the cheapest price in your region). Go onto the website and apply.

In alex I just use the truck stop, don't have to deal with anyone then and can fill up 24/7. That is for diesel for the van though, the local mobil has the pay at pump mobil card option though.

TimeOut
27th July 2008, 11:27
Pretty simple solution, just get a mobil card. I've had one for over 2 years now. Great things, can fill up whenever you want but best of all you get approx 5-10c a litre off (depending on where you fill up, its referenced to the cheapest price in your region). Go onto the website and apply.


Used to be even better 5c off the Wellington price which was great when filling at Haast

Big Dave
11th August 2008, 18:21
F*ck Mobil and their card. I was a regular customer till this week.

Greenlane has just nixed the pay at the pump and appear to have gone to permanant pre-pay.

I went inside and enquired. Was told I have to pre-pay now please.
'Nah, both BPs in Ellerslie and the Shell in Greenlane have excellent driveway service without this bullshit. See ya round.'

Only as a last resort.

Quasievil
11th August 2008, 18:25
MOBIL is the best in the world and by far, I love MOBIL I love them alot !

but I would say that wouldnt I lol

Big Dave
11th August 2008, 18:27
MOBIL is the best in the world and by far, I love MOBIL I love them alot !

but I would say that wouldnt I lol

Why did they change the best system?
Interest on Credit cards?

Kiwi Graham
11th August 2008, 18:45
Was in Vancouver, Canada recently. Since Feb this year all fuel stations over there are prepay because of the drive offs........... a bloody pain in the ass. I recon it will go the same way here one day :shit:.

Gremlin
11th August 2008, 19:54
Why did they change the best system?
Interest on Credit cards?
he has ulterior motives :yes:

I refuse to pre-pay... walk inside, wallet on counter, look at them, I'll pay when I have filled. Walk back out and onto bike (don't give them a second to say anything else). Normal process continues from there.

However, this is the last (and unusual resort) normally. Normally, roll up, lift visor, bike into neutral, bike off, and while sitting astride, lift pump, inset into tank, and eventually they get the idea.

Sometimes they do have to accept the pumping from inside, sometimes they are busy, but eventually most are fine (without having to walk inside twice).

I hate BP. wankers.

Griffin
11th August 2008, 20:02
Only ever use Shell... always found their service to be good and gets me Flybuys.

OMG - is this what my life has become...?

Big Dave
11th August 2008, 20:32
OMG - is this what my life has become...?

Valid observation, but reserve the scorn for the thieves that have made pre-pay a reality.

PrincessBandit
11th August 2008, 20:34
Never had any probs at petrol stations until I went to a mobil in Manurewa - wanted to fill my car - told them that and was given the response "prepay only". I answered with the obvious "but I don't know how much it will take" but they wouldn't budge. Kept getting the "prepay only, prepay only" like a friggin' cracked record. In the end, I needed the gas so I said "well in that case I'll have $20 instead of letting you fill my empty car". Would have been so much more satisfying to say stuff ya then you won't get my business again but I really needed that petrol! When another woman who was in the kiosk commented to the guy at the counter that they must lose a lot of business over it he simply said it was company policy with all the petrol thefts that have been occuring.

clint640
12th August 2008, 12:38
F*ck Mobil and their card. I was a regular customer till this week.

.

Yep, x2. I used to ride a mile back into town to use the Mobil in Rotorua as it was lots quicker than using the authorise/prepay/queue for 10 bloody minutes cos there's 20 pumps & only 1 cashier BP Geyser. I'll be using the Shell over the road now.

Cheers
Clint

Swoop
12th August 2008, 12:46
The obvious solution to the drive-off's is eftpos at pump. Why would a station do away with it unless it is costing them more to have an eftpos terminal on each pump???
It solves the drive off issue. Have an attendant on the forecourt assisting people who are not familiar with the system.

It might even bring back the concept of "service"?






Hang on! I bet they are losing sales of chokky bars/coffee/and CD's inside the shop... = force the punters inside to pay.
Bastards!

Big Dave
12th August 2008, 13:03
For my own bike I know roughly how much it will take an a pre-pay, but for the test bikes it's quite frustrating having to nominate.

Most operators are good too - but the way the Mobil shop at greenlane is designed, the poorest view and furthest point from the pumps is exactly where the staff stand.

Big Dave
12th August 2008, 13:05
Hang on! I bet they are losing sales of chokky bars/coffee/and CD's inside the shop... = force the punters inside to pay.
Bastards!

A cheap, out of date, roll of fat doesn't excite you?

After thinking about it I can see the commercial reasons with them offering the service exclusively to Mobil Card holders.
Golden handcuffs.

Swoop
12th August 2008, 13:09
A cheap, out of date, roll of fat doesn't excite you?
More details please. I haven't been nominated as a perv for nothing...:whistle:

Big Dave
12th August 2008, 13:12
More details please. I haven't been nominated as a perv for nothing...:whistle:

I think it was called a 'Pinkie'. 2 for $3. I declined.

Quasievil
12th August 2008, 21:13
Why did they change the best system?
Interest on Credit cards?

Pass, I just started but Im in the Lub side of things not fuel (at the moment)

Gubb
12th August 2008, 22:32
Why did they change the best system?
Interest on Credit cards?


It's the new chip-card Credit cards that are the problem, the machines on the pumps won't recognize them, and won't use them, and the primative software dies at the very whiff of new technology, so rather that upgrade the machines (and give themselves something to stand out from their competitors) they will be making them MobilCard and FleetCard only.

Pretty piss-poor effort if you ask me.

....10char

skidMark
12th August 2008, 22:50
Seems to be the same for Mobil now. I used to always go to them for eftpos at the pump. A few days ago I found out that all of their eftpos terminals are for mobil card owners only.


sooo.... get a mobil card...

Big Dave
12th August 2008, 23:14
>>It's the new chip-card Credit cards that are the problem, <<

ahh - got it. I take some of it back. Will still go elsewhere though. Advantage lost and absolutely definitely 100% not interested in another credit card.

wickle
13th August 2008, 19:43
The obvious solution to the drive-off's is eftpos at pump. Why would a station do away with it unless it is costing them more to have an eftpos terminal on each pump???
It solves the drive off issue. Have an attendant on the forecourt assisting people who are not familiar with the system.

It might even bring back the concept of "service"?






Hang on! I bet they are losing sales of chokky bars/coffee/and CD's inside the shop... = force the punters inside to pay.
Bastards!
Further away from big cities we still endeavour to give forecourt service, I believe to change pumps to Eftpos at pump is around $30000 per pump. I wonder who would end up paying for that!

Big Dave
13th August 2008, 19:59
Further away from big cities we still endeavour to give forecourt service, I believe to change pumps to Eftpos at pump is around $30000 per pump. I wonder who would end up paying for that!

Friday, August 01, 2008

Exxon Mobil reported a second quarter profit of almost $11.7 billion dollars.

Quasievil
13th August 2008, 20:13
Friday, August 01, 2008

Exxon Mobil reported a second quarter profit of almost $11.7 billion dollars.

What does that equate to in relation to the return on investment?
this is great though, I wonder if that means I can get a aftermarket exhaust for my commodore sv6 ?

Jorja
13th August 2008, 20:22
The worst petrol station would have to be the gull at the corner of henderson valley road and forest hill road in henderson. You have to wait for about ten minutes to be served in the morning to prepay.

The shell on bruce mclaren road is not much better.
They are all really thick and seem to have trouble understanding the concept of filling up a gas can before paying. Waited for 5 minutes at the counter to pay one day while the other person I was with was outside waiting to fill up. Had to ask about 6 times for them to release the pump. They kept telling me I should pay first.

Try putting a small amount of gas in 2 cars plus filling a can on the same pump so as to pay all together. That really through them. :lol:

Big Dave
13th August 2008, 20:25
What does that equate to in relation to the return on investment?
this is great though, I wonder if that means I can get a aftermarket exhaust for my commodore sv6 ?

A V8 is in the mail.