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Big Dog
8th August 2008, 19:22
I re listed my Bike on trade me last night.
Later that night I find that the reserve is 10% of the reserve I set... and checked.

My problem, now the reserve has been met and the option to edit the reserve is gone.

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.

Trade me say I am liable for it as it is a legally binding contract.
What do you say?

sinned
8th August 2008, 19:27
Don't give the bike away. Be prepared to buy it yourself.
Put a buy now up and buy it yourself - figure out how.
Then start again.

MadDuck
8th August 2008, 19:32
Get a mate you trust to bid on it.

nallac
8th August 2008, 19:32
along that line ,
get a mate to buy it if its not going for what you wanna get for it.

CB ARGH
8th August 2008, 19:35
Duh, do the obvious.

You went for a ride on it for the last time and you smashed into a plane carrying twenty donkeys, twelve girraffes, all of which had two kilos of marijuana hidden in their asses.

Have fun relisting it next week though. :dodge:

Kwaka14
8th August 2008, 19:38
Get a mate you trust to bid on it.

be farking careful if you do this as its against the trade me terms and conditions (and I think it's not legal in an auction also). but definitely don't give it away.

Big Dog
8th August 2008, 19:42
Duh, do the obvious.

You went for a ride on it for the last time and you smashed into a plane carrying twenty donkeys, twelve girraffes, all of which had two kilos of marijuana hidden in their asses.

Have fun relisting it next week though. :dodge:
Should be able to get something for 64 kilos of dope...:niceone:

Shame I am not a drug dealer heh?:rolleyes:

I can withdraw the auction, but could be banned for doing so...
Hardly seems fair when it was running fine with the right reserve before I went out.

Ragingrob
8th August 2008, 19:46
Hmmm just wait and see how it goes? Then if you're not happy at the last min make up a trademe user and bid yourself then tell trademe the buyer isn't replying to you etc etc and they'll refund the auction fees and let you re-list.

Ixion
8th August 2008, 19:46
What others have said. And BTW , honest error is (under many circumstances) a valid and lawful reason to avoid a contract.

I would also suggets that it is questionable whether the offering of something on Trademe amounts to a contract. Arguably it is merely an invitation to tender, akin to putting an article in a shop window. Although Trademe refer to their process as an 'auction' it it doubtful whether it is legally so: and Trademe do not hold an auctioneers licence.

IANAL. But I would be interested in any comment that those site members who are lawyers - there are several- might care to make. Mr HDC ?

MadDuck
8th August 2008, 19:47
be farking careful if you do this as its against the trade me terms and conditions

If a genuine mistake has been made and cant be fixed by tardme then there are not many options.

You could always get a "stranger" you trust to bid on it :devil2:

rottiguy
8th August 2008, 19:52
Not too sure if I understand correctly, you set and checked the reserve and then it changed by its self to 10% of what you set before ? If that is the case tell trade me their system screwed up and so you are withdrawing it from auction and will not be selling anything until they sort their system out.
If they ban you, you will have to re-register under a new name and start again. maybe send them an email explaining what has happened and asking what they are going to do about their stuffed up system.


I re listed my Bike on trade me last night.
Later that night I find that the reserve is 10% of the reserve I set... and checked.

My problem, now the reserve has been met and the option to edit the reserve is gone.

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.

Trade me say I am liable for it as it is a legally binding contract.
What do you say?

sinned
8th August 2008, 19:52
Get some advice or find someone you really trust.

If you are thinking of setting up another account be very careful - some geek advice is useful here. You need a different internet access (IP address) and email address. Best to get a real person with an existing account to be the person bidding.

Mom
8th August 2008, 19:56
Withdraw the auction. State the reason why, "it was listed with an incorrect reserve in error". No shame in that surely!

List it as a classified. NO questions to answer, cheaper than an auction to list, free relists.

Big Dog
8th August 2008, 19:58
I neeed a drink

sinned
8th August 2008, 20:00
I neeed a drink
You'll need more than a drink if it sells for $5k

wickle
8th August 2008, 20:05
Withdraw the auction. State the reason why, "it was listed with an incorrect reserve in error". No shame in that surely!

List it as a classified. NO questions to answer, cheaper than an auction to list, free relists.
Why CanT u say that u have found a fault with the bike, therfore cant not sell it as it was fasly advertised. Re list on KB for sale forum c if u can sell it that way

AllanB
8th August 2008, 20:05
Just put up a sellers comment along the line of;

I have make a genuine mistake on my listing - the reserve has been accidentally set below my acceptable minimum. I apologise to all bidders and watchers as I will remove this auction and re-list. Again I apologise for the incorrect price but I am not giving this bike away.

Then remove the auction.

I'm pretty sure the comment will remain on the old auction when viewed.

Relist and state that you have relisted due to making a genuine mistake with the reserve.

You may get a pippy warning e-mail from Trademe but shit man its your ride so don't give it away.
Expect a few questions from prospective sellers and just answer honestly.

Mom
8th August 2008, 20:11
Why CanT u say that u have found a fault with the bike, therfore cant not sell it as it was fasly advertised. Re list on KB for sale forum c if u can sell it that way

Maybe because that would not be true?

It is genuinely for sale as far as I am aware, there is an error with the reserve in the current auction, good and reasonable grounds to withdraw the auction. This bike has been for sale for a while now, KB has been advised.

Why lie about it?

Drew
8th August 2008, 20:11
Withdraw the auction, it's simple as. Trademe will ask you to send a generic statement to those watching, and bidding. Tell them the truth.

Easy as, HARDEN THE FUCK UP!

turtleman
8th August 2008, 20:36
.....
If you are thinking of setting up another account be very careful - some geek advice is useful here. You need a different internet access (IP address) and email address....

Email address, maybe, but not IP address. IP addresses are not always static - sometimes dynamically assigned, depending on ISP

Also, I have a static IP address, shared between the household, all with their own trademe accounts. 5 of 'em, all up.

sinned
8th August 2008, 20:42
Email address, maybe, but not IP address. IP addresses are not always static - sometimes dynamically assigned, depending on ISP

Also, I have a static IP address, shared between the household, all with their own trademe accounts. 5 of 'em, all up.
This is why I suggested getting some advice

turtleman
8th August 2008, 20:45
This is why I suggested getting some advice

...and that's why I offered it ;)

Donor
8th August 2008, 20:45
Just withdraw the auction.

You won't be banned.

They will only look at doing that if you are a habitual auction killer.

Otherwise, get someone to put a horrendous auto-bid on the auction, and suck up the success fees when the auction ends.

The Pastor
8th August 2008, 20:49
dude no one cares its trademe, just let the auction run and if the res dont get near where you want just say i want more money for it.

What are they going to do, call the cops lol.

'111 emergancy'
"uh hi i need the cops"
'nature of the emergancy?'
"This dude on tm put a bike on for a low res and i bought it and now he wont give it to me man"
'this is 111 emergancy, you need to call your local GP'

'hello your local GP speaking, how can I help'
"This dude on tm put a bike on for a low res and i bought it and now he wont give it to me man"
'Oh i have just the thing you need, let me write out the perscitption, that'll be $14 thanks'

<img src='http://www.therogerdodger.com/images/blog/no-more-tears.jpg'>
HTFU CRY BABY

sinned
8th August 2008, 20:53
dude no one cares its trademe, just let the auction run and if the res dont get near where you want just say i want more money for it.

What are they going to do, call the cops lol.

'111 emergancy'
"uh hi i need the cops"
'nature of the emergancy?'
"This dude on tm put a bike on for a low res and i bought it and now he wont give it to me man"
'this is 111 emergancy, you need to call your local GP'


I like this - a practical renegade approach. Worst case scenario - you get a bad feedback.

Conquiztador
8th August 2008, 20:56
Withdraw auction.
State as reason: Mistake done, reserve was set far too low. Sorry to all bidders.
Start again.
Nothing will happen. Nothing.
Oh and agree with earlier posters:
HTFU

Madness
8th August 2008, 21:00
that'll be $14 thanks

$14 to go to the Doctor?. It pays not to work dunnit!

idleidolidyll
8th August 2008, 21:27
sell it, no matter what you think now, there's always a better one somewhere

St_Gabriel
9th August 2008, 22:27
Just remove the bids over the low reserve, then reset the price. You shouldnt have to even cancel the auction. I would put a new comment on the end explaining why the bids were removed and to invite the previous bidders to re-bid (incase they thought you removed their bids due to poor history)

fLaThEaD FreD
10th August 2008, 09:54
Hmmm just wait and see how it goes? Then if you're not happy at the last min make up a trademe user and bid yourself then tell trademe the buyer isn't replying to you etc etc and they'll refund the auction fees and let you re-list.

I run a trademe business and think this is the best way to handle it.....cheers:calm:

Bren
10th August 2008, 12:21
just one question...what was your original reserve?

Big Dog
12th August 2008, 13:26
just one question...what was your original reserve?

A lot higher than what displayed 2 hours after posting it!

If it hits 10k by monday I'll let it run.

Otherwise too bad if they want to ban me.
Not giving her away.

Mully
12th August 2008, 15:18
Are you still trying to sell that thing?? As I recall, you were trying to sell it to me when we were helping Frosty shift.

I'll give you $10.

Big Dog
12th August 2008, 18:48
Are you still trying to sell that thing?? As I recall, you were trying to sell it to me when we were helping Frosty shift.

I'll give you $10.

Sure you can bid $10K.. not sure that would be the winning bid though.

Mully
12th August 2008, 19:12
Sure you can bid $10K.. not sure that would be the winning bid though.

Was no "k" on the end of my bid.

Happy to bid for you if you want to bump up the price, but wont be buying it (ever heard of blood out of a stone??)

Max Preload
13th August 2008, 13:47
What others have said. And BTW , honest error is (under many circumstances) a valid and lawful reason to avoid a contract.

Or VOID anyway... :Pokey:

But he's right - covered by the Contractual Mistakes Act 1977 (http://tinyurl.com/6qt59r).

Ixion
13th August 2008, 14:29
a·void (-void)
tr.v. a·void·ed, a·void·ing, a·voids
1. To stay clear of; shun. See Synonyms at escape.
2. To keep from happening: avoid illness with rest and a balanced diet.
3. Law To annul or make void; invalidate.
4. Obsolete To void or expel.


:Pokey: back.

FROSTY
13th August 2008, 14:38
DOG j just pull the auction. As someone else said either A you ferked it up or trad me ferked it up you coud try an fight em but is it worth the agro.
Put an expaination as to why then pull it

Max Preload
13th August 2008, 19:42
:Pokey: back.

No one likes a smart ass... :crybaby:

southernmike
13th August 2008, 20:25
Withdraw the auction now with an explanation unless you want to potentially lose $2k instead of $40.

Big Dog
15th August 2008, 13:02
Was no "k" on the end of my bid.

Happy to bid for you if you want to bump up the price, but wont be buying it (ever heard of blood out of a stone??)

So your idea of methanol injection would be to put some straws stolen from the local servo from your butt to the carb?

Hate to disillusion you. That's Methane.
You have to pay for power if you want it.
Blood, sweat, tears, or cash everybody pays.

Big Dog
15th August 2008, 13:12
No one likes a smart ass... :crybaby:

Pot or kettle?

musicman
15th August 2008, 14:30
Just put up a request on KB for everyone to place ridiculous bids on your auction and hope Trademe pulls it. Bids will probably have to reach millions of dollars for this to work. :lol: