Riding by myself.. not so much fun.

[Mr. Rock]

hey, im from hamilton.. been restricted to the 250 because im only on my learners..

anyways long story short, the only people i know with bikes have 1000s etc and tho they said they would wait for me i still feel silly.

does anyone do rides or want to ride with a 250?? seems hard to find people to ride with..

only thing ive been told by my doc i cant ride for about 3 weeks, tendonitis in my right hand.. GUTS!!

but as soon as im good to go ill be going!

[James Deuce]

You're a lot safer by yourself.

[Mr. Rock]

never thought of it that way.. probily quite true..

[Crisis management]

I wouldn't worry about it, whenever "we" go for a ride someones going fast, someones going slow, half of them are lost and there's always something that falls off, breaks or runs out of fuel. As long as you know where your going to meet up just enjoy riding your own ride and telling lies at the end.

Simple really.

[DarkLord]

What Crisis Management said.

Whatever you do, don't try and keep up with those on 600's and thou's. They will wait for you. I know it's frustrating - my flatmates both have 600's and thou's and whenever the 3 of us go riding I usually get left behind on my 250, but they do wait for me and I'm learning to be ok with that.

If you try and keep up and ride outside your limits you put yourself in danger.

Riding by yourself is fun but if you do need to ride with others there are loads of 250 riders, such as myself up in Auckland. I know it's a bit of a hike from where you are but a lot of Auckland 250 riders travel all over the upper North Island over weekends - I, for example quite regularly shoot down to Tauranga and back for the weekend.

Keep an eye on the rides and planned events forum on here - you're bound to find something you can get involved with involving other 250 riders.

Hope this is of some help to you.

[EJK]

Riding alone DOES suck! But its something that you should get used to/ or organise a better ride.

When I had the Yamaha Scorpio I remember going on a BIG ride (20-30 people ride). Eventho most riders had 250s but no matter what, I (or my bike) was the slowest. That frustrated me for a time... Other 250s, they may be 250s but they were all inline fours or V twins! During that ride I, out of 30 people, rode by myself from Whangarei to Auckland... Well they waited for me at a gas stop but they left when I arrived....true.

Like Darklord said, riding alone is safe but on the other hand, it can be lonely... really lonely...

[Stirts]

What everyone else said.....

I think every learner goes through this phase; it is a testing time as the temptation to ride beyond your limits to keep up is huge! And if you fall into that temptation the consequences can be disastrous!

Don’t feel silly, people do wait, and if they don’t who gives a toss. People I ride with have been riding for years and are farken fast, but they always stop and have a smoke/chat/piss/wank/ or all of those, on the side of the road to wait for nana me.

Just enjoy having your arse on your bike doing your ride!

Don't let it stop you riding in groups. Riding in groups, I think, is a vital part in the learning process.

And when your all growed up, and get an adult size bike, just remember those learners, and what they are going through!

my cents worth

[Ixion]

3cc of virgin mouse blood, and a ripe kumquat and you'll never ride alone.

[Pwalo]

I found it easier riding on my own when I was learning (I think I can rememer back that far). Group riding has it's place, but as the others have said it's all too easy to get caught up concentrating on what others are doing rather than riding at your own pace.

Personally I still find it more fun to ride on my own. Of course that may be more of a reflction on my number of friends!

[Murray]

Do a search on Hamilton threads because there were/are a few who went out riding in the summer months and I assume they will again once the weather and light pick up. 250's can do the speed limit so you shouldn't be far off the pace anyway. I know quite a few bikers head out to Parongia on Sundays for a coffee or two and thats always a good place to meet up with fellow riders have a chat and tag along.

cheers and good biking

[duckonin]

no matter if you are with others or not "look ahead smile and enjoy" be safe.....

[BiK3RChiK]

I prefer riding alone. I don't feel 'pressured' to keep up' or that I'm 'holding up the other riders'. There was an awesome thread here about why we crash.. I found it an excellent read http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79309& One of the things I got out of that was point 3. Whatever you do, get out there and practice, practice, practice.

[enigma51]

hey, im from hamilton.. been restricted to the 250 because im only on my learners..

anyways long story short, the only people i know with bikes have 1000s etc and tho they said they would wait for me i still feel silly.

does anyone do rides or want to ride with a 250?? seems hard to find people to ride with..

only thing ive been told by my doc i cant ride for about 3 weeks, tendonitis in my right hand.. GUTS!!

but as soon as im good to go ill be going!

For your hand issue.
Go look into a machine called a tenz machine (omron sells them)

Its got electrodes that you attach to your hands that "shocks" it.
keep it on a very small current ie you can just feel it
About 15 min a day and i promise in a week your hand will be fine!

[yod]

I wouldn't worry about it, whenever "we" go for a ride someones going fast, someones going slow, half of them are lost and there's always something that falls off, breaks or runs out of fuel. As long as you know where your going to meet up just enjoy riding your own ride and telling lies at the end.

Simple really.

lol

sounds exactly like ours

:cool:

[Switch]

If i still lived in Hamilton i'ld be more than happy to go for rides with you.
Dont start riding with the mormon few :no:

I used to ride with guys who all had bigger bikes, And i can definetly say it gets lonely. But turns out they are going to ride socially now :laugh:

Check out the Hamilton wednesday night ride thread :msn-wink:

[enigma51]

I use to ride with guys that have bigger cocks than me but now that im in auckland I have the bigger cock!

[The Stranger]

You're a lot safer by yourself.

How so sir?

[James Deuce]

How so sir?
Accidents stats.

1. Corners. Single & multi vehicle accidents combined. Usual format is following rider falls off. Other riders may fall off avoiding him. Lead rider wonders where everyone is at the cafe.
2. Groups Rides. Multiple vehicle accidents.
3. Intersections. At least 2 vehicles.

I've posted the stats from Statistics NZ before and I know there will be inaccuracies in data collection, further compounded by analysis assumptions, but the differences in numbers between each type of accident are significant.

Overall, the more motorcycles the rider was riding with the more likely they are to have an accident.

[Murray]

I use to ride with guys that have bigger cocks than me but now that im in auckland I have the bigger cock!

Doe's this mean you are the biggest cock in Auckland???:bleh:

[carver]

hey, im from hamilton.. been restricted to the 250 because im only on my learners..

anyways long story short, the only people i know with bikes have 1000s etc and tho they said they would wait for me i still feel silly.

does anyone do rides or want to ride with a 250?? seems hard to find people to ride with..

only thing ive been told by my doc i cant ride for about 3 weeks, tendonitis in my right hand.. GUTS!!

but as soon as im good to go ill be going!

ride with the mormon few...
pm or rep me ya number!
were all slow!

[enigma51]

Doe's this mean you are the biggest cock in Auckland???:bleh:

Hell yeah!

You should see my penis its even bigger!

[mister.koz]

hey, im from hamilton.. been restricted to the 250 because im only on my learners..

anyways long story short, the only people i know with bikes have 1000s etc and tho they said they would wait for me i still feel silly.

does anyone do rides or want to ride with a 250?? seems hard to find people to ride with..

only thing ive been told by my doc i cant ride for about 3 weeks, tendonitis in my right hand.. GUTS!!

but as soon as im good to go ill be going!

Hey mate,

What sort of riding are you doing? open road or just around hamilton?

Reason i ask is that i am on my zxr250 as often as i can and i am out and about in town working on my handling. I am QUITE over-cautious but in a few weeks i will be doing hamilton to cambridge etc and working my way up to open road rides, will be especially good without that yellow L and that 70km/h limit on the open road.

Anyways, drop me a PM if you want to go for a fairly relaxed ride :) i am not into racing, I've only been on 2 wheels for 5 months!

[carver]

Hey mate,

What sort of riding are you doing? open road or just around hamilton?

Reason i ask is that i am on my zxr250 as often as i can and i am out and about in town working on my handling. I am QUITE over-cautious but in a few weeks i will be doing hamilton to cambridge etc and working my way up to open road rides, will be especially good without that yellow L and that 70km/h limit on the open road.

Anyways, drop me a PM if you want to go for a fairly relaxed ride :) i am not into racing, I've only been on 2 wheels for 5 months!

you...pm me your number too...'
il ride with ya

[Henk]

It's not about finding the right bikes to ride with but the right people. Have been on rides containing 1000, 900, 750, 650cc bikes and me on an RG150. On public roads the limit is 100 anyway and 140 is walking pace. We run a system where you keep the guy behind in sight not at all times but often enough to know if something has gone horribly wrong, this leads to a bit of race ahead slow down but it's all part of the fun. If the folks you are riding with leave you feeling left out upgrade your riding buddies. We also try and keep the groups to a max of about 5 bikes and even that has a tendency to get unmanageable.

[Her_C4]

What Crisis Management said.

Whatever you do, don't try and keep up with those on 600's and thou's. They will wait for you. I know it's frustrating - my flatmates both have 600's and thou's and whenever the 3 of us go riding I usually get left behind on my 250, but they do wait for me and I'm learning to be ok with that.

If you try and keep up and ride outside your limits you put yourself in danger.

Riding by yourself is fun but if you do need to ride with others there are loads of 250 riders, such as myself up in Auckland. I know it's a bit of a hike from where you are but a lot of Auckland 250 riders travel all over the upper North Island over weekends - I, for example quite regularly shoot down to Tauranga and back for the weekend.

Keep an eye on the rides and planned events forum on here - you're bound to find something you can get involved with involving other 250 riders.

Hope this is of some help to you.

Good post. There is always the (self imposed?) pressure to keep up and ride outside of your skill levels and / abilities. This causes accidents and grief to both yourself and others - plain and simple.


I prefer riding alone. I don't feel 'pressured' to keep up' or that I'm 'holding up the other riders'. There was an awesome thread here about why we crash.. I found it an excellent read http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79309& One of the things I got out of that was point 3. Whatever you do, get out there and practice, practice, practice.

Yes I agree. I too prefer riding alone or with one other. After a very close call between myself on a 250 (on a learners licence) - and a 4x4 that could have been very messy - I nearly learnt the hard way in regards to refusing to bow to pressure to ride other peoples rides. Ride your own ride - within your own limits and as BiK3RChiK says, practice, practice and practise... and when you think you have practiced enough - practice some more.


Accidents stats.

1. Corners. Single & multi vehicle accidents combined. Usual format is following rider falls off. Other riders may fall off avoiding him. Lead rider wonders where everyone is at the cafe.
2. Groups Rides. Multiple vehicle accidents.
3. Intersections. At least 2 vehicles.

I've posted the stats from Statistics NZ before and I know there will be inaccuracies in data collection, further compounded by analysis assumptions, but the differences in numbers between each type of accident are significant.

Overall, the more motorcycles the rider was riding with the more likely they are to have an accident.

Yep - agreed. Despite comments to the contrary - riding in a large group or riding with others OR riding outside your skill levels does not give you a big cock. It will give you a big head caused by brain swelling when you hit the ground. Fundamentally different.

Enjoy your rides:-)

[mister.koz]

If the folks you are riding with leave you feeling left out upgrade your riding buddies.

excellent advice :)

The best advice i have had on a bike was from ward fischer here in hamilton about 10 years ago, i was totally inexperienced and trying to keep up with the other people around the tennis court, ended up slipping off the clutch and hitting the fence. No injury physically but my pride was broken for some time.

He told me that not matter what situation ride withing your limits and capability

Oh and he also told me i wasn't ready to ride on the road so he failed me on my learners.

[Mr. Rock]

Hey mate,

What sort of riding are you doing? open road or just around hamilton?

Reason i ask is that i am on my zxr250 as often as i can and i am out and about in town working on my handling. I am QUITE over-cautious but in a few weeks i will be doing hamilton to cambridge etc and working my way up to open road rides, will be especially good without that yellow L and that 70km/h limit on the open road.

Anyways, drop me a PM if you want to go for a fairly relaxed ride :) i am not into racing, I've only been on 2 wheels for 5 months!

hey just tried to use the private message thing to send ya me details.. BUT apparently i havnt sent enough posts to use it..

[Murray]

Hey mate,

Reason i ask is that i am on my zxr250 as often as i can and i am out and about in town working on my handling. I am QUITE over-cautious but in a few weeks i will be doing hamilton to cambridge etc and working my way up to open road rides, will be especially good without that yellow L and that 70km/h limit on the open road.

I would suggest you stay off highway 1 and take the road out past the airport, past mystery creek and into the back of Cambridge. Then coming back use the backroads back Morrinsville way. Its a good ride and not so much traffic. I've done it a number of times while getting used to the bike. Post a time and place if you want to meet up to head that way!! Always like talking to people about their bikes etc and I ride for the pleasure not always the speed. Actually my wife (pillion) is the one who always wants to go faster.

cheers and beers

[Mr. Rock]

well thats an idea.. make a ride time.. i may have to turn a blind eye to my screwed wrist and just ride. im itching to get back on me bike. (it hasnt even been a week) haha

[Mr. Rock]

Hey mate,

What sort of riding are you doing? open road or just around hamilton?

Reason i ask is that i am on my zxr250 as often as i can and i am out and about in town working on my handling. I am QUITE over-cautious but in a few weeks i will be doing hamilton to cambridge etc and working my way up to open road rides, will be especially good without that yellow L and that 70km/h limit on the open road.

Anyways, drop me a PM if you want to go for a fairly relaxed ride :) i am not into racing, I've only been on 2 wheels for 5 months!

guess i should of told you where i ride, i go to rags, tga, around town, huntly.. back roads, where ever really.

[smoky]

there hasn't been much organised for riding in Hamilton for while has there, I guess there too busy getting their new web site up and running.
But I have been on a couple good rides in a groups catering for smaller bikes and new riders. And the wiakato has some great roads close to Hamilton

I'm a nana on my 1200, so I don't mind pacing it with 250's

[Monamie]

I know how you feel.
I got left behind for the first time ever and really didn't like it much. It's not that I don't like riding by myself because I love it...it's that if you go out with a group you at least want to be able to see someone-line of sight type of thing. I was so far behind I actually thought I had gone the wrong way!! :Oi: Soon found a few faithful friends :hug: waiting for me-just as well they couldn't see me blushing under my helmet I guess.

Think I will cruise myself for a bit until I get a bigger bike-although I don't want to go `fast', it would be nice to be able to overtake safely with the group. :2thumbsup

M

[Murray]

I guess there too busy getting their new web site up and running.

I'm a nana on my 1200, so I don't mind pacing it with 250's

Whose getting a new website up and running???? Sounds like there's quite a few Hamiltonians out there looking to meet up with others and do the leisurely ride thing. Count me in that group too. Name the place the time or whatever and arrange the weather and I'm in!!!

[mister.koz]

I would suggest you stay off highway 1 and take the road out past the airport, past mystery creek and into the back of Cambridge. Then coming back use the backroads back Morrinsville way. Its a good ride and not so much traffic. I've done it a number of times while getting used to the bike. Post a time and place if you want to meet up to head that way!! Always like talking to people about their bikes etc and I ride for the pleasure not always the speed. Actually my wife (pillion) is the one who always wants to go faster.

cheers and beers

Cheerz man, thats great advice, will keep you in mind :)

I would like to get the restricted first (in the next few weeks)... i have this annoying habit of getting caught EVERY time i break the rules. sigh!

[carver]

lets do a hamilton ride!
bring the mormon few!

[mister.koz]

yeah man, start the motions.

[Monie]

lol

sounds exactly like ours

:cool:


what you mean ......... i am slow..... me who passed you and i am on only on a 250...... lol i see you at work again .....

[Mr. Rock]

right so, hamilton ride then.. kinda gutted about the wrist but ill man up.. couple of weeks?

[mister.koz]

Sounds good, hopefully the weather is finished with its crappyness..

[Mr. Rock]

yea id say, sick of rain. ill post a thred up in a couple of weeks for a ride :chase: any times or days work better than others?

[Murray]

Sundays - A day of rest and riding

[mister.koz]

weekends :) i am a computer geek.

[Mr. Rock]

there is a thread posted by me under events and meetings, for a waikato ride

[smoky]

check out the website.


Good to see some new riders in Hamilton keen to get together

[Murray]

Whose out for a ride tomorrow (Sunday). I'm heading to Pirongia for lunchtime coffee. Great place to meet other bikers. Don't go to Raglan tomorrow as all the crazy rally cagers will be doing their rally stuff on the roads.

Thought I might then head back via back of Mystery Creek to Cambridge and have a look at the biker friendly bar RPM something in Empire street (I think) and then backroad back through past Morrinsville.

See you on the roads

Have a great day riding in the Tron and may the force be with you all

[carver]

fuck, im on call for work!

[mj_scorpio]

i'm in of course :) an sundays are also best 4 me, altho I've only got 3 left in Hamz b4 headin 2 chch 4 da summer so hope I can get 2 at least 1!!!

[karla]

Sheesh, a biker with no one to ride with and a sore right hand ... shame you're up there and I'm down here, haven't been for a ride myself for quite some time. And I'm slow ... :whistle:





:nono: Karla, behave!

[Mr. Rock]

im still in for a ride some time i noticed that there was a group of bikers doing the back roads te kowhi to nigawhahia.. i tried ohaupo back roads to te kowhi and then on to nigawhahia then back threw river road.. that was all good. any one wanting to tag along on sunday??

[mj_scorpio]

I'm in :) an u already know how slow I am lol

[wysper]

there hasn't been much organised for riding in Hamilton for while has there, I guess there too busy getting their new web site up and running.
But I have been on a couple good rides in a groups catering for smaller bikes and new riders. And the wiakato has some great roads close to Hamilton

I'm a nana on my 1200, so I don't mind pacing it with 250's

I'm another nana on a 600, if I can escape from the family for a while I will be in.


Whose getting a new website up and running???? Sounds like there's quite a few Hamiltonians out there looking to meet up with others and do the leisurely ride thing. Count me in that group too. Name the place the time or whatever and arrange the weather and I'm in!!!

Yeah strange isn't it. There does seem to be alot of Hamiltonians here but the ride front is pretty quiet.


Cheerz man, thats great advice, will keep you in mind :)


We have done that Koz, well not the morrnisville bit but back roads to cambridge - cafe - backroads past mystery creek and back home.

[slofox]

I know quite a few bikers head out to Pirongia on Sundays for a coffee or two and thats always a good place to meet up with fellow riders have a chat and tag along.

I am often out there on a Sunday.........usually earlyish though.....

[carver]

I'm another nana on a 600, if I can escape from the family for a while I will be in.



Yeah strange isn't it. There does seem to be alot of Hamiltonians here but the ride front is pretty quiet.



We have done that Koz, well not the morrnisville bit but back roads to cambridge - cafe - backroads past mystery creek and back home.



I am often out there on a Sunday.........usually earlyish though.....

you n00bs meed to ride with Hamilton's notorious

Mormon Few
Stunt Crew

[wysper]

you n00bs meed to ride with Hamilton's notorious



Nah man. You dudes are way to crazy for me. I would prefer to keep my licence in my wallet and my skin on my bones. :baby:

To each their own.

[carver]

Nah man. You dudes are way to crazy for me. I would prefer to keep my licence in my wallet and my skin on my bones. :baby:

To each their own.

i have all of the above!

how about a social meet then!

[mj_scorpio]

I'm with the nana's on this 1,:rockon: but keen 2 get sum practice in on those open roads :) :scooter:

[Mr. Rock]

I am often out there on a Sunday.........usually earlyish though.....

whats early?? id be up for a cruze, cause im going to be out sunday.

[getafix]

Hamilton rides Wednesday or Thursday are ok for me. Work long hours every weekend :(

[mister.koz]

I've jumped onto a zx6r now but i am still keen on normal rides, not into racing like a loonie even if my bike can do it.

I have a few mates around now that would likely be keen on rides around the place, will try and organise days and times people are free then i will start a new thread and leave a message here or PM people who want in.

Up and down the country at the moment for work so might be a week or 3 out sorry.

[mj_scorpio]

whats early?? id be up for a cruze, cause im going to be out sunday.

I can manage 9am but anything b4 that is pushin it. Student life has got the better of me, early mornin's r a lil out of my league...an knowin me i'l need da head start!

[mj_scorpio]

I've jumped onto a zx6r now but i am still keen on normal rides, not into racing like a loonie even if my bike can do it.

I have a few mates around now that would likely be keen on rides around the place, will try and organise days and times people are free then i will start a new thread and leave a message here or PM people who want in.

Up and down the country at the moment for work so might be a week or 3 out sorry.
am only in h town 3 more wks so that counts me out! mayb next yr tho :)

[mister.koz]

am only in h town 3 more wks so that counts me out! mayb next yr tho :)

Was saying a week or 3 cause i really don't have a timeframe :) will keep you posted anyways.

[mister.koz]

Just a thought, looks like there's a good few hamiltonians here, all riding, why not have a hamilton group, seen one already:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?groupid=17
But i am not sure of the etiquette of the groups
ideas?

[Mr. Rock]

hmm had a look they do wednesdays which is average cause i cant ride wednesdays..

[Murray]

They used to do Wednesdays but that has been pretty much a no go over winter etc. I also suspect the Wednesday crew are more racers and do not cater for those of us that like biking for the ride factor rather than the get there as quick as we can factor. a la Mr carver and co

[mister.koz]

Oh ok, shall we start a group with a creative name like "hamilton - laxed rides" ? I have no idea how to start a group mind you...

Ideas anyone?

[Murray]

A Sunday Mass Group would be good (No Mormons allowed). I went out on Sunday to Morrinsville, turned left just after, then right over the highway along the marshes to the Paeroa/TeAroha road, through Te Aroha to Matamata, back up the highway and then did that road from there direct to Morrinsville for the first time, great straights. Great ride but would have been cool with a few others. Did Kawhia the weeknd before, thats a cool cruisey ride too??

I'm keen if anyone wants to take a leisurely Sunday ride starting mid morning!!!

I generally work the rest of the week

[mister.koz]

Alright then we need someone to start on this so i am keen on a ride on sunday, was thinking mystery creek -> cambridge -> matamata -> te-aroha -> swamp roads to the back of morrinsville then back to hams. Not a concrete plan just a start :) will start a new thread.

[Murray]

How about Sunday week (Labour Weekend), see if we can get some interest by then. I actually have to go to Rotovegas (by cage) this weekend

[mister.koz]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1770034

[carver]

A Sunday Mass Group would be good (No Mormons allowed). I went out on Sunday to Morrinsville, turned left just after, then right over the highway along the marshes to the Paeroa/TeAroha road, through Te Aroha to Matamata, back up the highway and then did that road from there direct to Morrinsville for the first time, great straights. Great ride but would have been cool with a few others. Did Kawhia the weeknd before, thats a cool cruisey ride too??

I'm keen if anyone wants to take a leisurely Sunday ride starting mid morning!!!

I generally work the rest of the week

thats like when quasi said on the cheesecutter ride "no stupid riding"

[mj_scorpio]

Alright then we need someone to start on this so i am keen on a ride on sunday, was thinking mystery creek -> cambridge -> matamata -> te-aroha -> swamp roads to the back of morrinsville then back to hams. Not a concrete plan just a start :) will start a new thread.

:done: This sounds good, where do we meet? sumwher wif coffee would b gud, I'm in 4 an earlyish start....but not 2 early :)

[mister.koz]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1771530#post1771530

:)

[Murray]

there hasn't been much organised for riding in Hamilton for while has there,But I have been on a couple good rides in a groups catering for smaller bikes and new riders. And the wiakato has some great roads close to Hamilton

I'm a nana on my 1200, so I don't mind pacing it with 250's


I'm another nana on a 600, if I can escape from the family for a while I will be in.
Yeah strange isn't it. There does seem to be alot of Hamiltonians here but the ride front is pretty quiet.



I am often out there on a Sunday.........usually earlyish though.....

In case you guys are interested the latest on a Sunday ride is

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=84029

attached, sorry if you are already aware